Rants and Raves

[Barraquda22]

To see other dudes type that they aren't hot or successful and still get girls.

All I wanted in life was a cute girl that loves to work out and play video games. Yet another year will go by with only rejections and it just makes me want to avoid everyone and sit in my apartment day after day knowing I tried my best and even invested financially into therapy, dating coaching, even sugar baby.

My wife works, works out, and plays candy crush haha. But seriously, please stop pissing money on therapy and the scammers that are "dating coaches". And also you don't want someone that sits around all day spending your money. That just sews the seeds of resentment and youll want to slap her the first time she says no to any request made no matter how trivial.

BQ22.

[Ignatius369]

There is an old joke about the man who asks a girl if she will sleep with him for a million dollars. Of course, she says yes. He then offers her two dollars and she slaps his face, saying, 'What do you think I am?' He answers, 'I know what you are. We are just haggling over the price.

[Shinshi86]

Seriously I don't want the "adult" version of romance. I wanted the high school or college romance. I just don't find older women attractive, our interest vary greatly, fashion style isn't my type, a lot of them don't work out or have kids or divorced.

How will it work out for me? When I'm still wanting a girl that's just as inexperienced as me but there none left. That's why it's such a burden and something I'm chasing now before I'll never find a girl in her early 20's that's also new to dating and willing to give her 100%.

If it's "high school or college romance" that you're after, you either have to have some game or accept that it'll cost you. There's very little in-between, and it's best you come to accept this now rather than later. There needs to be realistic expectations established.

Personal story time: I've been in two serious relationships since graduating high school. And like you, I prefer my women to be at least a year younger than me. In both instances, those women technically pursued me. I didn't suddenly lose my introverted nature, alter my personality to be an alpha male, rake in the big bucks, win the lottery, buy a fancy car, or any of that nonsense. In fact, the only changes were to my eating habits (because one gf was a vegetarian), working out a little more often (easy when you enjoy it already), and starting out as close friends which eventually turned into something more after realizing the chemistry & attraction were present. I've also been in this hobby for 7-8 years. And while in a serious relationship, I never once stepped out on my gf (loyalty's important to me); however, I picked my hobbying ways back up after the most recent relationship ended.

Prior to January of this year, I'd visit a strip club once in a blue moon or saw a professional escort. Since 2020 began, I've had decent success with SBs on Seeking Arrangements. At NO TIME have I ever deluded myself into thinking that those girls fell in love with anything about me except my money. That's not something that should surprise anyone. It's kind of their job. You're just one of their many johns. You can't change these women who are often damaged in some form or another. So if it's love you're after, you're not going to find it in this hobby. No one here is Richard Gere or Hugh Hefner.

Not trying to go all "Dr. Phil" on you, but I hope you take the following advice to heart: don't stress about things outside your control. By worrying about the future, trying too hard, forcing a relationship to work, or spending every waking second trying to please a potential partner, you will have missed out on so much that life has to offer and will only make yourself miserable. Just be yourself, treat others with respect, don't let them play you for your checking / savings account, and pursue your interests & passions. The rest will fall into place in due time. Until then, be safe, keep your head on a swivel, and enjoy life to the fullest. Cheers!

[FairFight]

I understand your frustration and I understand that things were a lot different for older guys than they are for younger guys with online hookup apps and other broader social changes. The good thing is that you're still pretty young at 28 years old, and things will almost certainly change as you get older and as women age (the amount of attention that they get from men generally goes down with the passing years, which tends to have an impact on their perspective). I would say that the most important thing right now is to set boundaries. Don't give more than you get and never give people things to get them to like you. They'll like the stuff but they won't like you, and they'll have no respect for you, and then they'll pass that word around. Again, don't be afraid to set boundaries and enforce them. If someone sees that you're giving in terms of a genuine overture for example, such as an invitation to spend time with them or inviting them to a social event, if they're a decent person that'll be received in an entirely different way. If they're not, you don't need them in your life anyway.

Seriously I don't want the "adult" version of romance. I wanted the high school or college romance. I just don't find older women attractive, our interest vary greatly, fashion style isn't my type, a lot of them don't work out or have kids or divorced.

How will it work out for me? When I'm still wanting a girl that's just as inexperienced as me but there none left. That's why it's such a burden and something I'm chasing now before I'll never find a girl in her early 20's that's also new to dating and willing to give her 100%.

[MoonBat11]

Just an old man giving a young buck some life experience advice. ALL women will use and lie in some form even when you think you have a relationship. Take time to realize this and proceed with it in mind. Obviously any female who is claiming to be a sugar baby or straight up hooker is using everyone she comes in contact with so never believe otherwise. Don't sweat your dating life as you mention. It's little difference in that world. Very few in life ever get to meet a loyal, honest person to have a relationship with. Go with how the world is, trust no know, use as you see fit and comfortable with and don't let any of the bullshit get you down. Focus on what you can control, be cautious with your money and spend it wisely and enjoy whatever path you choose to go down.

I second this!

[MoonBat11]

To see other dudes type that they aren't hot or successful and still get girls.

All I wanted in life was a cute girl that loves to work out and play video games. Yet another year will go by with only rejections and it just makes me want to avoid everyone and sit in my apartment day after day knowing I tried my best and even invested financially into therapy, dating coaching, even sugar baby.

I understand your frustration and I understand that things were a lot different for older guys than they are for younger guys with online hookup apps and other broader social changes. The good thing is that you're still pretty young at 28 years old, and things will almost certainly change as you get older and as women age (the amount of attention that they get from men generally goes down with the passing years, which tends to have an impact on their perspective). I would say that the most important thing right now is to set boundaries. Don't give more than you get and never give people things to get them to like you. They'll like the stuff but they won't like you, and they'll have no respect for you, and then they'll pass that word around. Again, don't be afraid to set boundaries and enforce them. If someone sees that you're giving in terms of a genuine overture for example, such as an invitation to spend time with them or inviting them to a social event, if they're a decent person that'll be received in an entirely different way. If they're not, you don't need them in your life anyway.

[Stich Jones]

To see other dudes type that they aren't hot or successful and still get girls.

All I wanted in life was a cute girl that loves to work out and play video games. Yet another year will go by with only rejections and it just makes me want to avoid everyone and sit in my apartment day after day knowing I tried my best and even invested financially into therapy, dating coaching, even sugar baby.

Just an old man giving a young buck some life experience advice. ALL women will use and lie in some form even when you think you have a relationship. Take time to realize this and proceed with it in mind. Obviously any female who is claiming to be a sugar baby or straight up hooker is using everyone she comes in contact with so never believe otherwise. Don't sweat your dating life as you mention. It's little difference in that world. Very few in life ever get to meet a loyal, honest person to have a relationship with. Go with how the world is, trust no know, use as you see fit and comfortable with and don't let any of the bullshit get you down. Focus on what you can control, be cautious with your money and spend it wisely and enjoy whatever path you choose to go down.

[Horsetrader]

To see other dudes type that they aren't hot or successful and still get girls.

All I wanted in life was a cute girl that loves to work out and play video games. Yet another year will go by with only rejections and it just makes me want to avoid everyone and sit in my apartment day after day knowing I tried my best and even invested financially into therapy, dating coaching, even sugar baby.

Rule #1 - Keep your paid sex life 100% separate from your search for a girlfriend. If a"girlfriend" asks you to pay for anything other than your dates, it is a paid relationship.

Rule #2 - There aren't enough cute girls who work out and play video games for every man who wants one.

Rule #3 - Sitting in your apartment solves none of this. Though it might be the best thing to do until COVID is resolved.

[FairFight]

To see other dudes type that they aren't hot or successful and still get girls.

All I wanted in life was a cute girl that loves to work out and play video games. Yet another year will go by with only rejections and it just makes me want to avoid everyone and sit in my apartment day after day knowing I tried my best and even invested financially into therapy, dating coaching, even sugar baby.

[FairFight]

I had typed in a LONG message about the lesson you arent getting and then deleted it. If you don't get that women you pay to fuck are point blank using you for money and would be ignoring you otherwise, then you have never had a true relationship and won't get it til you do. My wife makes more money than I do by a vast amount. Her friend that joins us for play time has never asked for more than being tied up and having her holes used. The couple of women that I see casually solo, same deal, want just some time with me and a good fuck. Its been months since I've ventured into the hobby due to an overwhelming lack of need to risk it. I have imo very sub par looks, a stereotypical college dropout job, and a bland personality at best. I'd never pay a womans bills or give her drug money with the blind hope of her maybe putting out. Thats less SB / SD and more smart hooker and naive john. Speaking from the bottom of the barrell here, have some damn self respect.

BQ22.

I'm nearly 28 years old. I have a good job, I have a good body and I'm generally a good hearted person. I've never had a relationship and I'm pretty sure I never will. Girls that don't even use drugs or fuck for money still behave the same.

I've never even been close, and if I ask guys for help. They talk about the whole alpha shit and about how I need to stop taking shit from or doing anything for girls. Yet if I go that route, they just think I'm stupid and tell me to fuck off or ignore me. It's a difficult situation. I got taken advantage of because I wanted a relationship, to finally date a girl and I've always had to prove myself by giving more than I get. My dating life is fucked.

[MoonBat11]

I've realized in both situations the girls are making you pay so they don't fuck other guys but still get their daily fix. Anyways I'm over it. It's just amazin how guys typically don't pull this shit but girls always trying to use you or ignore you.

This is true of most women, not just women you to pay to fuck (which is usually the case, even if you're not paying directly--at least you spared yourself the cost of a divorce or a child support order). Unless she just likes you for some reason at a visceral level, or she feels like she can't do any better, this is generally the case.

[Barraquda22]

I've realized in both situations the girls are making you pay so they don't fuck other guys but still get their daily fix. Anyways I'm over it. It's just amazin how guys typically don't pull this shit but girls always trying to use you or ignore you.

I had typed in a LONG message about the lesson you arent getting and then deleted it. If you don't get that women you pay to fuck are point blank using you for money and would be ignoring you otherwise, then you have never had a true relationship and won't get it til you do. My wife makes more money than I do by a vast amount. Her friend that joins us for play time has never asked for more than being tied up and having her holes used. The couple of women that I see casually solo, same deal, want just some time with me and a good fuck. Its been months since I've ventured into the hobby due to an overwhelming lack of need to risk it. I have imo very sub par looks, a stereotypical college dropout job, and a bland personality at best. I'd never pay a womans bills or give her drug money with the blind hope of her maybe putting out. Thats less SB / SD and more smart hooker and naive john. Speaking from the bottom of the barrell here, have some damn self respect.

BQ22.

[FairFight]

Dude, seriously? If you are paying her for sex. She is fucking more guys than just you. Want love? Give nothing and act like you have nothing. The woman that wants you to fuck her then is the woman that doesn't care about nor want your money, she wants you.

Upset over sugar baby using you.

Dude.

BQ22.

I've realized in both situations the girls are making you pay so they don't fuck other guys but still get their daily fix. Anyways I'm over it. It's just amazin how guys typically don't pull this shit but girls always trying to use you or ignore you.

[Oakwood99]

Be warned for anyone that thinks any of these girls will honor a sugar baby type situation they won't. The girl that took me for 10 k has found another dude to pull the same scams on and I met a regular that explained what was going. She told me she had a dude that spent 15 k on her so she wouldn't do dates.

The scams I personally fell for was phone breaking, overdue fines, kidnapped and owes someone money, things breaking or getting stolen in their house, going to rehab, getting away from drugs and needing a new place to live, etc. They key give away is that they will always ask for 200 within 2 days because the cost of their habit is that much. It was too late for me but as someone else said.

At their worst, these girls lied, cheated and stole from their own family and during their best, they could not care about me or you.

I am blessed to have an opportunity for a promotion and to recover the money I lost but my trust in all girls is fully gone. I didn't know people would inflict so much pain on others for money.

Bruh, you have lost touch with reality. You got a photo of this girl you would like to share?

[MoonBat11]

Be warned for anyone that thinks any of these girls will honor a sugar baby type situation they won't.

Women are generally only as faithful as their options. Seriously though, the mistake that a lot of guys make is feeling too sorry for women, because of an urge to take care of them. Unfortunately, as soon as you do that, you set yourself up to be scammed by someone who is unscrupulous. A fair exchange with a meeting of the minds and a mutual agreement is great, but you have to put the clamp down on being used and being pushed beyond that as soon as you sniff it out. Don't let anyone use your good nature to drain your pockets and take you for a ride. Don't be afraid to set boundaries and enforce them before you even begin an interaction.