Rants and Raves

[CollegeParkBoy]

That is a big no no. Erica is famous for doing it. Now Sundae is doing it.

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...more/166022853

Sundae was not doing it, but recently one could not use the bathroom because Erica is it.

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...more/166051953

Why is providers sharing a room a no-no? Did you have a bad experience? Also I wanted to see Erica but the way her ad is similar to sundae's (and on top of that the last time I tried seeing sundae I almost was taken away by the law so never wanted to see sundae again) I'm not sure if she's real. And Erica's as has comments saying she's fake and has different ads (could be why I almost got hit by sundae since I saw her under a different number).

[Mpduration]

That is a big no no. Erica is famous for doing it. Now Sundae is doing it.

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...more/166022853

Sundae was not doing it, but recently one could not use the bathroom because Erica is it.

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...more/166051953

[Chico]

Driving the loops, looking for SW's has become a waste of time and gas money. It doesn't matter which loop, they're all empty. Not to mention the front end alignment you need after driving through these fucked up streets.

So, I search the internet but all I see is overpriced SW's who discovered Listcrawler. Next, I try Facebook, because I've seen some profile pics that match the pics I've seen on Listcrawler. So, I reached out, made a few friends that maybe can turn into a regular UTR thing. Great, I got one. We made plans to meet at Westside Shopping Center. See my screenshot of the conversation.

Chico.

[Mpduration]

They never seem to fix the roads. My car keeps on getting out of alignment from the Baltimore streets. If I had a new car I would not drive it in Baltimore.

[Symptom Addict]

I've been a long time massage parlor attender. I've been fine with the rub and rug scene, and only a few times have things progressed to needing a cover.

But I'm about to see a higher end provider where everything is on the table. My question for all of you OG's. Do you worry about STD's? For those that go down on the girl, you all just trust it's clean? How do you all approach that? This provider I'm about to see is gorgeous. Very expensive too. But can I trust she's clean?

Remember these providers do it for a living; as long as you use protection you're covered, if you choose to go without you are always taking some risk. Estimates are 1 in 5 people have some STI, and though I expect most sex workers protect themselves as much as possible -- it'd be bad business not to -- I've also seen a lot of anal warts and more out there in my time.

Best advice is to ask straight up if they have been tested recently, they may even expect or ask the same of you so be prepared, but remember condoms are still king, your best bet not catching something yourself.

[Old Chinese Guy]

Over the years. I have meet some interesting providers. Some are successful vs. Some are in very difficult situations. Most of the time I get the same answer I'm just trying to get into a better spot in life. Only doing this for a short time then getting out.

It's my choice where I go just like it's my choice who I help.. I've known this provider going back to 2017 ish. Always enjoy visiting however, over the years she's gotten involved with recreational medication and it turned into habit forming medication. The Kitty is fantastic. I always get exactly what I want. I've always kept the relationship, very business professional, making sure not to overstep my boundaries. I'm also not looking for a relationship with a provider for lots of reasons.

I've helped her out with clothing, school supplies, food. Last time I got a text from her asking for some help. I drove out to Baltimore, which was a lengthy drive for me. When I get there, I'm wondering if she's going to do the same thing she did the previous time.

She gets in the car while she's talking on the phone. There's no pleasantry. When I get over to Walmart she's still talking on the phone. I'm growing a little annoyed. She gets some items inside the store when we get to the checkout counter I do the donation part. Then back to her place..

I never help out without some sort of pay back. It's just plain psychology 101. It teaches them that nothing is free. Even if it's a BBBJ in the car, it teaches them there is a cost to help. I agree, that sort of rudeness deserves being cut-off. But knowing these girls, they will come back to you the next time they need something. Just add the cost of the previous help to the next visit, ie. She needs to go above and beyond the usual. Maybe she doesn't do or like speaking greek or ATM but that would seem like reasonable payback for debts incurred. This also opens the door to these activities in the future. Every action has a consequence and I try to figure out reasonable paybacks for debts incurred, because trust me, they will come back to you for help in the future.

[Dayman08]

I've been a long time massage parlor attender. I've been fine with the rub and rug scene, and only a few times have things progressed to needing a cover.

But I'm about to see a higher end provider where everything is on the table. My question for all of you OG's. Do you worry about STD's? For those that go down on the girl, you all just trust it's clean? How do you all approach that? This provider I'm about to see is gorgeous. Very expensive too. But can I trust she's clean?

Just looking for some advice here. Feel free to throw in some judgement if necessary.

[Cod592]

Remember they're from the streets you ain't find them at a picnic gathering!

Just move on and learn from it. This one recently said she needed narcan $, said she was going to die. I told her I can't send you money! Welp guess what she is still alive I saved headache and money! Moral of the story fuckem!

Over the years. I have meet some interesting providers. Some are successful vs. Some are in very difficult situations. Most of the time I get the same answer I'm just trying to get into a better spot in life. Only doing this for a short time then getting out.

It's my choice where I go just like it's my choice who I help.. I've known this provider going back to 2017 ish. Always enjoy visiting however, over the years she's gotten involved with recreational medication and it turned into habit forming medication. The Kitty is fantastic. I always get exactly what I want. I've always kept the relationship, very business professional, making sure not to overstep my boundaries. I'm also not looking for a relationship with a provider for lots of reasons.

I've helped her out with clothing, school supplies, food. Last time I got a text from her asking for some help. I drove out to Baltimore, which was a lengthy drive for me. When I get there, I'm wondering if she's going to do the same thing she did the previous time.

She gets in the car while she's talking on the phone. There's no pleasantry. When I get over to Walmart she's still talking on the phone. I'm growing a little annoyed. She gets some items inside the store when we get to the checkout counter I do the donation part. Then back to her place. Prior to coming I told her I couldn't do a visit. It was just to help her out with the supplies she was looking for. When I drop her off, she goes to the room. No thank you, no follow up text saying thank you. This is the last time I help this junkie out. I don't care what story comes next.

When I was in Walmart, I thought about just leaving her there. Big F U to her and all of her future problems she creates herself. I haven't returned any of her text messages really don't care to talk to her again.

[ShootAndRoll]

Over the years. I have meet some interesting providers. Some are successful vs. Some are in very difficult situations. Most of the time I get the same answer I'm just trying to get into a better spot in life. Only doing this for a short time then getting out.

It's my choice where I go just like it's my choice who I help.. I've known this provider going back to 2017 ish. Always enjoy visiting however, over the years she's gotten involved with recreational medication and it turned into habit forming medication. The Kitty is fantastic. I always get exactly what I want. I've always kept the relationship, very business professional, making sure not to overstep my boundaries. I'm also not looking for a relationship with a provider for lots of reasons.

I've helped her out with clothing, school supplies, food. Last time I got a text from her asking for some help. I drove out to Baltimore, which was a lengthy drive for me. When I get there, I'm wondering if she's going to do the same thing she did the previous time.

She gets in the car while she's talking on the phone. There's no pleasantry. When I get over to Walmart she's still talking on the phone. I'm growing a little annoyed. She gets some items inside the store when we get to the checkout counter I do the donation part. Then back to her place. Prior to coming I told her I couldn't do a visit. It was just to help her out with the supplies she was looking for. When I drop her off, she goes to the room. No thank you, no follow up text saying thank you. This is the last time I help this junkie out. I don't care what story comes next.

When I was in Walmart, I thought about just leaving her there. Big F U to her and all of her future problems she creates herself. I haven't returned any of her text messages really don't care to talk to her again.

[ShootAndRoll]

Has anyone ever received a random text from a number you don't know that asks to meet up. They are super vague, but end up sending you enough information to believe it may be a provider? In this case, the person sent me this photo, and wanted to meet up. I asked for a link to an ad, reviews, etc, but she says she doesn't do that and goes by word of mouth and referrals. When asked how she got my number, she didn't give me an answer.

Just curious if anyone else has seen something similar?

First off attractive women are not sending random text trying to hook up with you. The odds of probability here are so out of whack. However. , you can explore the conversation if you were bored. Work on your negotiating tactics, pretend to be someone else like when you role-playing. You could always try calling the text number.

[Old Chinese Guy]

Has anyone ever received a random text from a number you don't know that asks to meet up. They are super vague, but end up sending you enough information to believe it may be a provider? In this case, the person sent me this photo, and wanted to meet up. I asked for a link to an ad, reviews, etc, but she says she doesn't do that and goes by word of mouth and referrals. When asked how she got my number, she didn't give me an answer.

Just curious if anyone else has seen something similar?

She's a scammer. Ask her to send a selfie holding up X fingers of the left hand (where x= whatever you decide). If she does not comply, she's a scammer.

[Dayman08]

Has anyone ever received a random text from a number you don't know that asks to meet up. They are super vague, but end up sending you enough information to believe it may be a provider? In this case, the person sent me this photo, and wanted to meet up. I asked for a link to an ad, reviews, etc, but she says she doesn't do that and goes by word of mouth and referrals. When asked how she got my number, she didn't give me an answer.

Just curious if anyone else has seen something similar?

[Red Carpetdic]

There is a huge rise on providers asking for Facetime or Duos and while I understand that its a safety aspect to do so, I'm just as paranoid as they are when I so send a picture of myself.

I've been rejected for not doing Facetime or Duos because I don't know what their intentions are when seeing me on a video, how do I know that they are not recording?

I guest its a way to show that I'm not a cop or whatever. IDK, how would I approach this?

Just proceed with caution with these providers when they ask for the FaceTime / Duo. I've been duped once by the "send money first" scam because of this. They set up a girl to video chat with, essentially gaining your trust, then send you a phony hotel room number after you send the money.

[CollegeParkBoy]

There is a huge rise on providers asking for Facetime or Duos and while I understand that its a safety aspect to do so, I'm just as paranoid as they are when I so send a picture of myself.

I've been rejected for not doing Facetime or Duos because I don't know what their intentions are when seeing me on a video, how do I know that they are not recording?

I guest its a way to show that I'm not a cop or whatever. IDK, how would I approach this?

Idk about Duo, but I know that on FT if you pay attention to their screen, check to see if their screen flashes white (as if you're taking a screen capture) if it flashes white they took a picture of you. If they’re screen recording you, you’d never know. That hasn’t been addressed by Apple or anybody. I’m still not fond of FT verify, but the three times I did it, they were real. I reviewed all three of them too. I just strike up a quick bs convo and make sure to avoid explicit talk. Any explicit talk, weird vibes (ex - other people voices), or screen capturing

The one time I did Snapchat verify I noticed the person snapped a picture of me and I called her out on it. She started freaking out so I cussed her out then hung up.

I second what the other guy said though. If you not feelin' it, just see people who don't verify like that or see people who been reviewed. Just my unsolicited two cents. Later.

[Goteki54]

There is a huge rise on providers asking for Facetime or Duos and while I understand that its a safety aspect to do so, I'm just as paranoid as they are when I so send a picture of myself.

I've been rejected for not doing Facetime or Duos because I don't know what their intentions are when seeing me on a video, how do I know that they are not recording?

I guest its a way to show that I'm not a cop or whatever. IDK, how would I approach this?

Other then telling them no, I would say find one that doesn't require it. Unfortunately, if this becomes the norm, there's nothing we can do. I've been seeing this a lot myself. It's almost like this just popped up overnight, because a few months ago I never really saw them doing this. And as you pointed out, it's hard to blame them from as safety perspective, but also I don't trust these women for nothing. It is food for thought, who's to say they won't use the recording to try and blackmail a guy.