Rants and Raves

[SuperJimmy]

I'll look into that. Regarding Mr. Number- thanks!

Yes, Baltimore has the most active SWalker market of the 4 areas and the thread is busy with 51 K entries.

Also.

PG county has lots of escort activity but not much reported in here as the PG MP thread has almost 6 times more reports.

MP Mongers dominate PG county. At least in here.

BTW,

Baltimore has 16 K escort reports and PG county has only 1,079 reports while NVA has 17,844 and DC has 2,475 escort reports.

Happy Hunting & Sessions!

SJ.

They're just using the Mr. Number app. You can look up any number and see if they got bad review on there. I got three on mine. One as recently as earlier this month. I actually know the girl who posted it and wrote her a bad review on another site.

As far as markets go. The "cleanest" girls are in nova. But they tend to cost a little more. Baltimore is good for SWers (I've never been to one) though I get most baltimore pussy on Pulaski hwy. Before that it was bwi area at the comfort inn hotel that got raided two years ago. Woodbridge girls are same calibre as Baltimore girls, but less reliable.

[DmvTrickGawd]

Ever heard of Patrick Henry?

Let me start by saying, you're asking a lot.

This is a lot to digest but I hear you because the hobby can make some guys do some reckless stuff and much of what you've said is spot on.

A Site For Escort Research On Mongers?

Did you know the ladies have a site where they can check a monger's phone number? I think they do. I guess to see if he's weirdo and / or a time waster.

I was prospecting and an escort said to me, you have a lot of reports, (I said reports?) and then she went on to indicate if I really wanted to see her it was ok, but otherwise don't waste her time.

LOL!

I'd love to know the name of that site etc. , to see what they have on the number I've been using for years. I asked but she declined to tell me the name of this site.

Does anyone know of such a site?

I think it was the $200/ HH she was asking that sorta amazed me. She was what most guys would say is a solid 7+ but for me to pay $200/ HH the lady needs to be in the undisputed category, and I didn't see that from her photos.

She was in NVA so that was my excuse to say I'll wait until you come to Md. I really wanted to know her rates.

BTW,

There's nothing wrong with getting the girls for only $100/ HH. I guess I avg $110/ HH with a small bunch of foreign Latinas as regulars and then I visit some Latina Houses in Southern Md for variety.

What Market?

What market are you talking about forcing down prices? All 4 markets? Baltimore, Southern Md. DC and NVA? I don't think they're all the same.

Don't go?

It's going to take a serious concerted effort by lots of mongers to force rates down to where you suggested they really should be.

$140/ HH a Budget Buster?

From what I can tell, most guys may be able to do a couple sessions at 140/ HH per month at the most, so lots of guys are doing 15 MinuteMen Missions for $60 instead and getting 4 sessions per month. I can't do QTRs because I really like taking my time with my sessions and 15 minutes simply won't do for me. I guess that's for the young guys. And you're right, if they can locate escorts for $100/ HH I'm sure some would opt or 3 $100/ HH sessions per month.

Monger Funds?

How much do you think the avg monger has to spend each month? I see you mentioned $300.

Price Fixing?

You actually saw it in action. Interesting.

Baltimore?

So, are you saying Baltimore has group of escorts that are decent and only charge $100/ HH but they are swamped with business? Why would they not be swamped, looking very decent in face and body, answering the bell, probably mostly NON-GFE, and only charging $100/ HH? I bet a lot of guys are sorry they didn't move on them when they were easily available.

I am not very familiar with the Baltimore market but I remember when BWI used to bring in some pretty nice ones regularly. Not so much now from my research.

Southern Md:

Southern Md has a small group of $100/ HH Latina gals. Maybe 10 tops that are quality. They are all foreign. I guess there may be some that even I do not know about. There are a couple legends that I have not been able to catch up with. Yet. Then there are a few at $120/ HH. I guess. And guys can catch up with some pretty decent babes at the Houses in Southern for $100-$140/ HH.

American Girls:

No one is ever getting decent looking (a cut above the rest) drug-free American gals for that $100/ HH again. Those days are over. Not in the Southern Md. IMHO, nowhere from Baltimore to NVA.

Pop Ratio?

Very interesting. Early 2000's, I remember I was stepping out on the wife and I started sliding the lady $200/ Month to be helpful and was seeing her like 6-8 times a month and normally when I saw her, I would bust a couple. Almost every time. Let's say it was 10 per month for sure. I remember calculating it was costing me about $20 per nutt and laughing to myself. I was killing that woman for about 5 years, and she gave as good as she got. LOL!

The 4 Markets:

IMHO all 4 markets are very different.

Good stuff to talk about!

Have fun and be safe out there!

SJ.

They're just using the Mr. Number app. You can look up any number and see if they got bad review on there. I got three on mine. One as recently as earlier this month. I actually know the girl who posted it and wrote her a bad review on another site.

As far as markets go. The "cleanest" girls are in nova. But they tend to cost a little more. Baltimore is good for SWers (I've never been to one) though I get most baltimorepussy on Pulaski hwy. Before that it was bwi area at the comfort inn hotel that got raided two years ago. Woodbridge girls are same calibre as Baltimore girls, but less reliable.

[SuperJimmy]

Ever heard of Patrick Henry?

Let me start by saying, you're asking a lot.

This is a lot to digest but I hear you because the hobby can make some guys do some reckless stuff and much of what you've said is spot on.

A Site For Escort Research On Mongers?

Did you know the ladies have a site where they can check a monger's phone number? I think they do. I guess to see if he's weirdo and / or a time waster.

I was prospecting and an escort said to me, you have a lot of reports, (I said reports?) and then she went on to indicate if I really wanted to see her it was ok, but otherwise don't waste her time.

LOL!

I'd love to know the name of that site etc. , to see what they have on the number I've been using for years. I asked but she declined to tell me the name of this site.

Does anyone know of such a site?

I think it was the $200/ HH she was asking that sorta amazed me. She was what most guys would say is a solid 7+ but for me to pay $200/ HH the lady needs to be in the undisputed category, and I didn't see that from her photos.

She was in NVA so that was my excuse to say I'll wait until you come to Md. I really wanted to know her rates.

BTW,

There's nothing wrong with getting the girls for only $100/ HH. I guess I avg $110/ HH with a small bunch of foreign Latinas as regulars and then I visit some Latina Houses in Southern Md for variety.

What Market?

What market are you talking about forcing down prices? All 4 markets? Baltimore, Southern Md. DC and NVA? I don't think they're all the same.

Don't go?

It's going to take a serious concerted effort by lots of mongers to force rates down to where you suggested they really should be.

$140/ HH a Budget Buster?

From what I can tell, most guys may be able to do a couple sessions at 140/ HH per month at the most, so lots of guys are doing 15 MinuteMen Missions for $60 instead and getting 4 sessions per month. I can't do QTRs because I really like taking my time with my sessions and 15 minutes simply won't do for me. I guess that's for the young guys. And you're right, if they can locate escorts for $100/ HH I'm sure some would opt or 3 $100/ HH sessions per month.

Monger Funds?

How much do you think the avg monger has to spend each month? I see you mentioned $300.

Price Fixing?

You actually saw it in action. Interesting.

Baltimore?

So, are you saying Baltimore has group of escorts that are decent and only charge $100/ HH but they are swamped with business? Why would they not be swamped, looking very decent in face and body, answering the bell, probably mostly NON-GFE, and only charging $100/ HH? I bet a lot of guys are sorry they didn't move on them when they were easily available.

I am not very familiar with the Baltimore market but I remember when BWI used to bring in some pretty nice ones regularly. Not so much now from my research.

Southern Md:

Southern Md has a small group of $100/ HH Latina gals. Maybe 10 tops that are quality. They are all foreign. I guess there may be some that even I do not know about. There are a couple legends that I have not been able to catch up with. Yet. Then there are a few at $120/ HH. I guess. And guys can catch up with some pretty decent babes at the Houses in Southern for $100-$140/ HH.

American Girls:

No one is ever getting decent looking (a cut above the rest) drug-free American gals for that $100/ HH again. Those days are over. Not in the Southern Md. IMHO, nowhere from Baltimore to NVA.

Pop Ratio?

Very interesting. Early 2000's, I remember I was stepping out on the wife and I started sliding the lady $200/ Month to be helpful and was seeing her like 6-8 times a month and normally when I saw her, I would bust a couple. Almost every time. Let's say it was 10 per month for sure. I remember calculating it was costing me about $20 per nutt and laughing to myself. I was killing that woman for about 5 years, and she gave as good as she got. LOL!

The 4 Markets:

IMHO all 4 markets are very different.

Good stuff to talk about!

Have fun and be safe out there!

SJ.

If means you have to do with out don't see any providers until price gets back to what you are use to paying. If you pay you will end up having finical burnout. See your wife, girlfriend, or rosy palmer.

Don't be tempted to use your inheritance money on the hobby to fund price increases. I know a guy who spent his 50 K inheritance in 1 year on the hobby. Keep your inheritance away from your regular checking account. If the money is ready available it will be very easy to spend on the hobby.

Don't take out home equity loans or money from 401 k to fund the hobby.

You won't last long paying 140 hh or more for a half hour. It adds up very quickly if you have multiple appointments a month. One should not pay more than 100 hh IMHO.

If a provider says in ad their expensive don't see them.

Years ago I saw a provider who would call around to other providers and ask them to raise their prices so she would not loose business. She made the call before she started her session with me.

She lost a lot of customers because she was a drama queen. No longer in the business.

Don't let them game you out of your money.

I also have known about providers who would charge 200 h but charged 300 h because they gave 100 hr to their management / pimps..

[Michael Taylor]

Discussion Moved from the Baltimore Escort Thread because this is not an escort review report.

I can't believe I just read all of that. One small step for man, one great leap for the mongers of the world (ha). Hat tip on the Rant / Rave post.

[SuperJimmy]

Discussion Moved from the Baltimore Escort Thread because this is not an escort review report.

Originally Posted by SuperJimmy:

Regarding how to avoid scams:

EB: Simply stick with the reviewed escorts and ignore the rest.

Search escorts reports in here for escorts that answer the bell.

Get a free membership at Private Delights if you want to see more ladies with reviews.

And of course, do not visit anyone who does not have positive reviews.

If you do, and it turns out bad, which it will about 80% of the time, it will be only your fault.

Then Senior Member, PootyLover chimed in, and this format is the easiest way to respond:

(Since he won't put any breaks in his posts to make it easier to read and decipher.).

He said:

You've given this same advice probably 100 times and while I agree that it is one way to cut down your odds of a bad time, it is also going to limit your experience. We are all in this hobby for different reasons and I for one enjoy the discovery. To boldly go where few men have reviewed before.

I've gotten pretty good over the years at separating the good and the bad based on the ad and the text convo. I rarely have a bad time or regret it. I like the relatively new fresh providers and those rarely have tons of reviews.

I say:

You are definitely the exception with your Thrill-Seeker Model.

Your Thrill-Seeking Model:

#1: You rarely see the same escort twice.

#2: You often visit escorts without any positive reviews. You boldly go!

Let us know if I have that correct and if there's anything else that you're doing that's unique or not done widely in the hobby. I'm sure guys would love to know.

I'm glad Thrill-Seeking is working out for you but according to reports it is failing most Thrill-Seekers.

The Hammering:

From reading all over the review sites, Thrill-Seekers are getting hammered with what seems like a less than a 25% success rate. Some of the stories are horrific, like guys getting mugged and / or even getting jumped by girls.

++++++ So why not share your special investigative techniques with other Thrill-Seekers and help stop the bloodletting? Please see report #16627 in the Baltimore escort thread.

Don't worry about me, I gave up Thrill-Seeking long ago and love my guaranteed fantastic time. Every time I step out.

Cutting Down On My Experiences?

Since I have the good fortune of being a client of a few Houses that bring in new 2 ladies each week, I do not think my experiences are limited. In fact, along with my at least 5 regulars and thanks to those Houses, I saw at least 30 different ladies in 2022. I happen to think that's plenty of variety for the avg monger. It is at least plenty of variety for me.

Some Advice For All Escort Mongers: +++++++++++++++++++++.

Visit a House. If You Can!

If a reliable House is within 40 minutes, even an hour, the avg monger should become clients of that House and that will give them the variety they may crave to go along with their set of regulars- that they ought to be building.

Or:

Or simply visit reliable Houses for a new escort every time. (Over time you will probably have a few favs at these houses) This is an extra quick way to expand your territory with lots of certainty and variety.

Personally, I still love seeing my regulars every 4-6 weeks and have not gotten tired of seeing them. Even after knowing most of them at least 4-5 years and at least 30 sessions each.

He said:

Also pointing out that if everybody took your advice then new providers would never collect enough reviews for you to feel comfortable booking time with them. You owe all the mongers that took a chance before you, found a gem and wrote a review.

I say:

The ignorant newbies plus the Thrill-Seekers are mighty in number.

There will always be plenty of guys who will visit escorts who don't have any positive reviews to find out whether they answer the bell or not and I believe there's an 80% chance the escort won't answer the bell. Whether they hear or heed my type of advice or not, seeking and discovering the unknown is what drives them, like you- right? So, the reality is, plenty of Thrill-Seekers will always exist.

BTW,

I want to publicly say thank you to all the Thrill-Seekers. OK?

For those who are not thrill-seekers, you thrill seekers are very key to helping us avoid the guaranteed pitfalls of the thrill-seeker model. Please do not stop sharing your investigative discoveries with the rest of us.

BTW,

I have discovered a few escorts back in the day and my reviews in general (maybe not in here but other places) have helped dozens to mongers find situations they are now very happy with.

He said:

Everyone has different levels of comfort. Just pointing out that your model wouldn't work if everybody followed it. A lot of providers change their number constantly to throw off le or because they are a bit on the UTR side, they are never going to have tons of reviews, and many don't want them but can often still be low volume gems. If you know what you're doing reviews are not always necessary.

If you're new to this hobby then of course you should see the providers who are well reviewed.

I say:

Most Thrill-Seekers by design or ignorance obviously do not know what they are doing, and it would be nice if you'd share your techniques with them of avoiding the normal pitfalls of Thrill-Seeking.

We Agree!

I agree with you that starting mongers should only visit escorts with positive reviews and then, when they're more experienced and want to do some Thrill-Seeking, they can "have fun" with all of that.

He said:

Understanding that lots of reviews almost always means high mileage and some level of burn out.

I say:

IMHO, it is not pussy burnout if that's what you are suggesting.

I've been with probably at least 125 different escorts in my career and the pussy was all the same- great! Even the ones with tons of reviews and have been at it for years. With a little lube, (now, only Jr gets any lube) the pussy is all the same. Great! I am truly amazed at the resiliency of and the pounding a pussy can take over the years and still do its job.

You love your model and I love my model so yes, it's very different strokes for very different folks in this hobby.

Happy Hunting & Missions!

SJ.

[Mpduration]

If means you have to do with out don't see any providers until price gets back to what you are use to paying. If you pay you will end up having finical burnout. See your wife, girlfriend, or rosy palmer.

Don't be tempted to use your inheritance money on the hobby to fund price increases. I know a guy who spent his 50 K inheritance in 1 year on the hobby. Keep your inheritance away from your regular checking account. If the money is ready available it will be very easy to spend on the hobby.

Don't take out home equity loans or money from 401 k to fund the hobby.

You won't last long paying 140 hh or more for a half hour. It adds up very quickly if you have multiple appointments a month. One should not pay more than 100 hh IMHO.

If a provider says in ad their expensive don't see them.

Years ago I saw a provider who would call around to other providers and ask them to raise their prices so she would not loose business. She made the call before she started her session with me.

She lost a lot of customers because she was a drama queen. No longer in the business.

Don't let them game you out of your money.

I also have know about providers who would charge 200 h but charged 300 h because they gave 100 hr to their management / pimps.

Also some of the providers do have alternative sources of income. Some have a sucker sugar daddy who pays them a lot and jack up their prices.

White knights who defend their behavior are not your buddy. They are trying to put you in financial ruin.

Many of the affordable providers don't put ads anymore because they have repeat customers, they charge 60 hh to 100 h in the Baltimore area. Provide BBBJ.

If you are not maximizing on your 401 k contributions and your spending on the hobby, change your priorities so prices come down.

I have talked to some of the new hobbyists they don't know that the hobby can be affordable. 300 goes a lot further if you can see have 3 appointments for 100/ each than to spend 300 at once. Maybe get 2 pops in hour if your lucky especially if it is not in the morning.

Formula for pop value ratio.

Pop value ratio = money spent month on hobby / number of pops.

Keep it down pop value ratio 100 or less per month.

[NietzscheKeen]

Yep, I agree with you guys on this, and to think he became a senior member that never contributed once on this board, just made goofy comments, Like, I need her, I want her, got pic, got number, and so on. SMH.

I blocked that guy months ago. It's been great not seeing the "she got number?" posts.

[Apache 12]

Honestly this is what makes me not want to use this board. And this guy who you are responding to is not all the way there either. All he does is ask for facebook or pics in his posts. I was even talking to him trying to trade and it wasn't no better there either. People got to do better man.

Yep, I agree with you guys on this, and to think he became a senior member that never contributed once on this board, just made goofy comments, Like, I need her, I want her, got pic, got number, and so on. SMH.

[DmvTrickGawd]

Pics, location, SW and you asking about a phone. This the shit I be talking about. Man gave pics, location, bro if you don't pull up and put the workin. Why'all be wanting people to hold why'all hands. Go get her and get the number for ya self. Don't mean to be an asshole or maybe I do but, I been burned when bum rushed for info like this. Nahhhh.

Honestly this is what makes me not want to use this board. And this guy who you are responding to is not all the way there either. All he does is ask for facebook or pics in his posts. I was even talking to him trying to trade and it wasn't no better there either. People got to do better man.

[FaceDownPro]

See he got number.

Pics, location, SW and you asking about a phone. This the shit I be talking about. Man gave pics, location, bro if you don't pull up and put the workin. Why'all be wanting people to hold why'all hands. Go get her and get the number for ya self. Don't mean to be an asshole or maybe I do but, I been burned when bum rushed for info like this. Nahhhh.

[BusterHymen55]

Any gamblers on the forum?! It's my only other vice that I've got besides this beloved "hobby" of ours. LOL! Anyhow, I've got the Eagles (-1.5) vs. Chiefs in Super Bowl LVII! I threw a nickel on it! ($500) I feel pretty strong about it. Good luck to all!

[BusterHymen55]

3 of my potential talent has not only delete their tryst profile but also moved on to whatever their post-SW career; one of them in a relationship. Not jealous by it; its not like I've dated them, just raising my eye brows here.

I got to get more active with this hobby.

You just answered your own question. Dollars to Doughnuts they've found themselves temporary sugar daddies (at least for the time being).

[GregIsLong]

3 of my potential talent has not only delete their tryst profile but also moved on to whatever their post-SW career; one of them in a relationship. Not jealous by it; its not like I've dated them, just raising my eye brows here.

I got to get more active with this hobby.

[SyntorX]

They were under a DDoS attack the last few days.

Boy did I hate having to deal with DDoS attacks before I retired. Thankful we rarely got attacked. I do not know why some people have to be a??holes.

[Old Chinese Guy]

Strangely enough, tonight's the first time in a while that I've logged in without a noticeable delay. Must have read the thread?

They were under a DDoS attack the last few days.