Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

[CuriousGeor]

3. An Escort is typically (but not exclusively) a lady who suffers from substance abuse, lives out of a motel, sees 10 - 15 guys a day, has a different idea as to time, has no problem saying she sells her pussy for money, has a controlling boyfriend / handler / pimp, does not have a car, does not have formal education, does not have an exit strategy.

Now, my assesment is a bit harsh. I truly mean no disrespect to any of the providers who are escorts. But, I don't think that you all will disagree with my assessment. At least not in spirit.

This makes me really question your judgement, are you not aware that escorts exist outside of SkipTheGames and MegaPersonals? Tryst, Eros, Models-world, etc are all full of girls that are decidedly escorts and also do not have a single one of the attributes you mentioned above. They just also happen to charge more than $120 for a half hour.

Man, this site is wild, sometimes you'd never know that there's a huge population of working girls that aren't also addicts if you just pay attention to the forums here.

[Bryant66]

Good morning!

This is indeed a very fair question. One that will likely be debated until the end of time!

And I never shy away from a question, especially when it is a really good question (like your's).

So, here goes:

1. It is a matter of perspective (I will use that word here).

2. Because of #1, we might simply disagree (and that is okay).

3. An Escort is typically (but not exclusively) a lady who suffers from substance abuse, lives out of a motel, sees 10 - 15 guys a day, has a different idea as to time, has no problem saying she sells her pussy for money, has a controlling boyfriend / handler / pimp, does not have a car, does not have formal education, does not have an exit strategy.

Now, my assesment is a bit harsh. I truly mean no disrespect to any of the providers who are escorts. But, I don't think that you all will disagree with my assessment. At least not in spirit.

A Sugar Baby. At least a genuine Sugar Baby. Is typically a college student, lives on campus, is doing this for spending cash (for the nice things that she would like to have), has a car, has no substance abuse issues, is physically fit, has an exit strategy, and does not consider what she is doing as "selling her pussy for money".

And that last one is key.

That is the major difference. At least, in my humble opinion.

I think this is a huge generalization, in my experience the character of ladies in the business run a gamut from elite courtesan to homeless streetwalker there just is no one size fits all definition.

[HornyBum85]

Not to be argumentative but what is the difference. I get they aren't 1 for 1 but it's pretty much the same in my eyes.

Good morning!

This is indeed a very fair question. One that will likely be debated until the end of time!

And I never shy away from a question, especially when it is a really good question (like your's).

So, here goes:

1. It is a matter of perspective (I will use that word here).

2. Because of #1, we might simply disagree (and that is okay).

3. An Escort is typically (but not exclusively) a lady who suffers from substance abuse, lives out of a motel, sees 10 - 15 guys a day, has a different idea as to time, has no problem saying she sells her pussy for money, has a controlling boyfriend / handler / pimp, does not have a car, does not have formal education, does not have an exit strategy.

Now, my assesment is a bit harsh. I truly mean no disrespect to any of the providers who are escorts. But, I don't think that you all will disagree with my assessment. At least not in spirit.

A Sugar Baby. At least a genuine Sugar Baby. Is typically a college student, lives on campus, is doing this for spending cash (for the nice things that she would like to have), has a car, has no substance abuse issues, is physically fit, has an exit strategy, and does not consider what she is doing as "selling her pussy for money".

And that last one is key.

That is the major difference. At least, in my humble opinion.

[HornyBum85]

Good evening, gentlemen!

I have a friend who is interested in starting to Sugar. She is Latina (Mexican and Cuban), 5'9", 22 years old, and is a college student in Charlotte.

She has never done anything like this before. She just wants a better life RIGHT NOW.

And to answer your collective question, because I know you are all asking: NO! She and I have never hooked up (and we never will. She is a friend).

She is def DTF.

PM me if you are interested in an awesome Sugar Baby (and make no mistake. She is not an escort. There is a huge difference).

Good morning you magnificent bastards!

Extra kudos for those of you that can quote the origin of the "magnificent bastards" line. Not from a movie!

As I am sure you all can understand, I have been overwhelmed by the positive response from you all.

She is brand new. And I do not want to overwhelm her. So. This is an update to what I am doing:

1. Be very clear that I am simply playing "Cupid" for a friend who is interested in The Sugar Bowl.

2. Be very clear that I have known her for awhile now and that we are friends.

3. I have given her number to seven guys. She is going to work through that "Round".

4. If you received her number from me before 7:30 AM today then you are in that round.

5. If you reached out to me after 7:30 am today then I am sorry, but we need to give her a couple of days to prpcess those seven guys.

6. She is a college student and never done this before. She is not an ESCORT. Please treat her as such.

7. For those guys who reached out this morning after 7 AM please understand.

Thanks, gentlemen!

[TheMechanik365]

Anyone met this girl any reviews?

Thanks.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...037&viewfull=1#post6074037.

[Hal1957]

I think you're spot on with your analysis. Curious about how they're identifying you if you changed "everything. " There must be something we're overlooking. Did you use the same old card or a different card?

So it probably happened to few of us where a fuc*ed up rude ***** reported you because you low balled her with an counter offer that she did not like or you stood her up by ghosting on her since you found other options.

Whatever the case is. But we got screwed by these f'd up girls because we are blocked from the site.

Same happened to me about a year ago. I gave up and tried searching on other sites but they were blocked also for me. Seems they are all sister companies.

And just to remind you someone suggested this here so I even changed all the IP, computer and all that crap but every time I went to pay with my card. It will be blocked right away.

Anyways months of frustration later. Here is a solution that worked with 15 min's for me.

Email customer service and write them a simple apology letter and tell them it was a mistake that will not happen again.

They will ask you to go to the site seeking.com/ terms and read all the terms. After reading email them stating you agree to all the terms and conditions and will abide the rules.

Once you do above. They will reactivate your account with minutes. Learn from your experience and read below the don't do it points.

Please note this and don't ignore: these are my lessons learned.

1. Do not -absolutely do not discuss an money on their emails and site. Take it offline if someone will ask you for ppm.

[CltAddict]

Good evening, gentlemen!

I have a friend who is interested in starting to Sugar. She is Latina (Mexican and Cuban), 5'9", 22 years old, and is a college student in Charlotte.

She has never done anything like this before. She just wants a better life RIGHT NOW.

And to answer your collective question, because I know you are all asking: NO! She and I have never hooked up (and we never will. She is a friend).

She is def DTF.

PM me if you are interested in an awesome Sugar Baby (and make no mistake. She is not an escort. There is a huge difference).

Not to be argumentative but what is the difference. I get they aren't 1 for 1 but it's pretty much the same in my eyes.

[HornyBum85]

Good evening, gentlemen!

I have a friend who is interested in starting to Sugar. She is Latina (Mexican and Cuban), 5'9", 22 years old, and is a college student in Charlotte.

She has never done anything like this before. She just wants a better life RIGHT NOW.

And to answer your collective question, because I know you are all asking: NO! She and I have never hooked up (and we never will. She is a friend).

She is def DTF.

PM me if you are interested in an awesome Sugar Baby (and make no mistake. She is not an escort. There is a huge difference).

[SAguyinNC]

Anyone met this girl any reviews?

Thanks.

I posted a short review about a week ago. Post #4794.

[Emjay]

Anyone smash this one? Too Eager to meet for a meet and greet or whatever / LOL.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-b2bd1fe46129

TIA.

[Masiha1980]

I used to hit that all the time for 200. Wasn't a fan of that Wisconsin accent. She's pretty fun but not for 3.

She's also a bit thicker in the legs then her pics show.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...dWlkZS5ubC8%3D

She quoted me 350 + 50 for CIM and 100 extra for rimjob and record it so total 500 - also asked for non latex condom only. I thought she was slim but the more pictures she sent the thicker she got. Profile pictures she looks much slimmer so I declined.

Also willing to host but got a male roommate.

[Masiha1980]

Chatted with this one. She tells me she's looking for a weekly allowance. Okay, how much? She says it depends on how many times I want to see her. I say maybe once a week. She then says what do you want to do when we meet? Sex of course silly rabbit! LOL! She then tells me. She won't be intimate until she develops a "connection" and is "comfortable" with you.

So let me get this straight, you expect a guy to pay you to be around you? Man, some of these women are delusional. She's not even hot. She's average at best.

Wow is all I can say.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...0-e0d488189222

I get these types a lot. Usually the 18-19 year old super fine ones. I tell them I will also only pay once we establish a connection. Lmao.

This one is way below average- I won't even respond to her if she message me.

[Masiha1980]

So it probably happened to few of us where a fuc*ed up rude ***** reported you because you low balled her with an counter offer that she did not like or you stood her up by ghosting on her since you found other options.

Whatever the case is. But we got screwed by these f'd up girls because we are blocked from the site.

Same happened to me about a year ago. I gave up and tried searching on other sites but they were blocked also for me. Seems they are all sister companies.

And just to remind you someone suggested this here so I even changed all the IP, computer and all that crap but every time I went to pay with my card. It will be blocked right away.

Anyways months of frustration later. Here is a solution that worked with 15 min's for me.

Email customer service and write them a simple apology letter and tell them it was a mistake that will not happen again.

They will ask you to go to the site seeking.com/ terms and read all the terms. After reading email them stating you agree to all the terms and conditions and will abide the rules.

Once you do above. They will reactivate your account with minutes. Learn from your experience and read below the don't do it points.

Please note this and don't ignore: these are my lessons learned.

1. Do not -absolutely do not discuss an money on their emails and site. Take it offline if someone will ask you for ppm.

2. do not use the word PPM and GFE on your profile description or your emails. Immediately it will be flagged or the girl can take a screen shot of that to report you if something goes wrong.

3. Don't argue with these girls. If she is irritating. Ignore and move on because conflict will get you blocked again.

4. once you take the conversation offline (texting) - you can discuss details which they cannot report or will not be considered by the SA site since it's offline.

That's it guys. Good luck hunting. Take care. I am not open to negative comments so keep them to yourself. .

[Masiha1980]

Since beginning the SB / SD arena, I've made over 500 offers. I've only offered 250 or less a few times, at first from being a newb and not wanting to over pay, but eventually, from just throwing a flyer at an "average" looking girl. Turns out, I only met three of those. A 200 that started at 400 but forgot or got desperate. The other two countered with 300 and was what I thought a descent value at that price. None of those were better than average. Not only did the overwhelmimg number of others deny the offer, most never replied and the rest horse laughed at it before blocking me no matter how good or bad they looked. So I choose not to risk being blocked by a 9 just so I can drive down prices for everyone else. I wouldn't consider average / below average looking girls as being STG quality. But I would say that, if I'm looking for average / below average looking, I'll get on a dating app or go to the local bar. If I wouldn't f* them for free, why would I pay money. Turns out, the ones I want to f* are, with a very rare exception, 400 or more. I keep seeing guys b* about driving up prices, and stating what things are worth, but you are not lining up my girls. As mentioned earlier, we are not making the market, we are reacting to it. Once some of these pandemic rich daddies run out of money, youight see a change but these girls literally have hundreds of messages a day. Why would they need to take less..

Ore.

Totally agree with you here and you are right on target with your statements. So far I am talking to about 30+ girls from SA which I got it reactivated about a week ago. I am good looking 42 year old but anything below 400 for a 6+/10 gets immediately ignored or blocked. Rarely I found 200's and 300's but either they are on the heavier side or not even touching 4/10 mark. Before pandemic 200/300 was the average going rate. BrianPeters must be celebrity stud to get this low rate. Hahahaha.

My observation is the same as yours. Below are my noted points.

1. All the super fine ones are either scammers trying to sell you pictures and videos or they want a SD for long term on allowances but unwilling to take their panties down until they feel comfortable which means they get the sugar without doing anything from their side. I told them to fu*k off. It's a two way street.

2. Also noticed the 18,19 and 20 year old just want to talking online sugar daddy for his sugar but don't want to me and if they meet no intimacy. Same point as above.

3. 400 is the average for the average (6 or 7/10) ones and yes I've negotiated multiple shots, BBBJ, cim, rimjob and video shoot while suckin and fu*kin. Some ask for 500. Super fine ones ask for 800-1000 for all these services.

4. out of state girl contacting you is usually a scammer trying to sell online services. Like the real far out of state. The close ones travel frequently to charlotte.

5. some are very pushy. Quick message. Quick text. When can you meet. Let's meet today. How about now. These usually will do for 200-300.

6. some of them had their pictures from like 10 year back. I was like what the heck!!

Overall. I've found a lot of luck on SA. I was miserable when my account was flagged for solicitation because one mean WG did not like my counter offer. This was a year ago. I will post on how to reinstate the account on a new post.

Moral of the lesson learnt is do not discuss ppm on their site- take them offline to discuss anything financial cause it takes only one fu'ked up ***** to have your profile deactivated.

If you have a list of your quality ones that provide GFE's, BBBJ, cim, rim and video friendly. Pm me and I can trade mine since I am taking a break from this.

Good luck guys!

[Emjay]

This one is in Columbia and wanted 400 to drive here. I declined. She called me yesterday and said she had a meeting in Charlotte at 4 and could do 300 since she would be here.

I didn't have time. She strikes me as a pro. When I inquired about her no list, she said no anal, no CIM and CFS.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-fe79223a8a22

Anyone met this girl any reviews?

Thanks.