Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

[Gastonian4]

There are a TON of quality girls on SA -- saw 3 during the week, may repeat with one. Got plenty of others on the hook for my trip this week and next week!

Fair to say there are ones you DO NOT want to see -- so careful fishing is required!!

GW.

I've had pretty good luck on SA as well, I agree with the fishing comment. You have to be subtle about it don't think you are going to set a date with someone and be explicit about prices you will scare them off. Also pricing is very negotiable. I've met 4 people on there, in all cases I arranged meeting for drinks or lunch to get them to know me, and when the vibes turned good I asked them to walk to the car and offered them extra to snuggle a little and to play a little subtly which broke the ice. The four I met with 3 of them I arranged something later on. I had worked those four off and on for awhile and culled them from the crowd. One of them who was 27 blonde very buxom I ended up going to her place and we drank for awhile and ended up doing her on her couch, we had dinner earlier. The other one is 40 or so, went to a very liesurly dinner and went back to my place, had some more wine and ended up doing her in my bed LOL. Both girls were GFE experience especially the second one, we still text back and forth but my budget is tight lately. Expect to spend cost of an AMP no frills cost for first meeting and cost of an upgraded session plus dinner for the second. If you work it right for the second one you can get out of dinner. I can't overemphasize how important it is to be subtle and not expect to work out details until a one on one meeting. Everything is negotiable but you also can't be cheap. Happy hunting!

[Member #5055]

There are a TON of quality girls on SA -- saw 3 during the week, may repeat with one. Got plenty of others on the hook for my trip this week and next week!

Fair to say there are ones you DO NOT want to see -- so careful fishing is required!!

GW.

I am visiting from out of town for a few weeks here and there this summer, and I am using SA to get good quality girls.

I highly recomend that anybody here who is interested in the SB world should read the great thread on the Richmond, VA forum about SBs. Start at the beginning and just start to read. GREAT tips of how to make it work for you.

SA is mostly the best site, and from what I am seeing here this week it is active and hopping.

Regards.

GW.

[NC Transplant]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-0...t-loan-balance

I know some of you guys are donating to the cause?

[Sludgepup]

I tried the Sugar Daddy thing last year and had some good luck. A lot of the women on the SD / sb sites will negotiate a sort of "sample" session and are open to weekly or even monthly meetings for the less-than-wealthy patron. I saw a few once, a couple three or four times, and two off and on for four months. One young lady contacted me recently and told me to pass on her contact info to anyone interested. PM me if you want the info.

I'm not sure if anyone had any luck with the sb I recommended, but it looks like her phone is off and it's possible her ex hacked her FB account. Apparently, he's a creep. But I apologize if my information proves unuseful.

[Member #5055]

I am visiting from out of town for a few weeks here and there this summer, and I am using SA to get good quality girls.

I highly recomend that anybody here who is interested in the SB world should read the great thread on the Richmond, VA forum about SBs. Start at the beginning and just start to read. GREAT tips of how to make it work for you.

SA is mostly the best site, and from what I am seeing here this week it is active and hopping.

Regards.

GW.

[Sludgepup]

I tried the Sugar Daddy thing last year and had some good luck. A lot of the women on the SD / sb sites will negotiate a sort of "sample" session and are open to weekly or even monthly meetings for the less-than-wealthy patron. I saw a few once, a couple three or four times, and two off and on for four months. One young lady contacted me recently and told me to pass on her contact info to anyone interested. PM me if you want the info.

[GutterMind4]

She wants it both ways. She likes the quick cash but wants to be picky about the clients. That's why she says she only has two "customers" like me. I think she used to work at a MP so that's why she's considering advertising body rubs. That way she can choose who to give certain extras to. I don't agree with the practice, just giving my opinion of her attitude. As she matures, or as real life grinds on her, I'm sure she'll become a little more liberal about who and how much she provides. But to reinforce your last posts, she'll end up as a provider with a lot of rules, no organization, and plenty of drama. Sound familiar?

She sounds closer to a provider than sugar baby, imo.

[Member #6050]

I was thinking she was game for a few sugar daddies until at the end when you mentioned the body rub thing. Perhaps she is seeing that finding one guy to fill her needs will be hard to find and looking to be a real provider?

She sounds closer to a provider than sugar baby, imo.

[NC Transplant]

I was thinking she was game for a few sugar daddies until at the end when you mentioned the body rub thing. Perhaps she is seeing that finding one guy to fill her needs will be hard to find and looking to be a real provider?

I agree WL, this is not the type of hobby I enjoy (if it is considered part of the hobby). But I did state that I kinda fell into it so I gave it a try and came through it ok. Still not sure how you would categorize her though. She's not trying to meet others for the same but says she has one other guy she sees for the same arrangement. By that standard, I would say she is not UTR. I do think she has boyfriends or hook ups but they run in her circle of friends and are more her age. By your standard, I would say she's not a SB. And although I mostly agree with your definition of UTR, I think a SB could range from a full time executive mistress to a trailer park tramp in training. This girl is naive, disorganized, and ill prepared but she's not innocent, and she's looking for quick money. We just met again and she started blowing me up to meet earlier in the day than scheduled because she was in a bind. I agreed and altered my schedule accordingly. Fifteen minutes later she tried to push it back so she could "take a friend to work". I replied that "no thanks, maybe we can meet some other day". She amazingly reverted back to the agreed schedule. She later let it slip that she needed the money to shop for something to wear this weekend (yeah, she's in a bind). She also took a couple of calls while there. I didn't really care because we weren't on the clock, but I heard a lot of criminal and civil drama just on her end. After our meeting, I told her I was working out of town for a while, I'd call her soon.

The good news for you guys (I think), she's considering body rubs if anyone "randomly inquired". YMMV, but don't expect GFE.

[GutterMind4]

Sounds like you need to head off in another direction besides sugars.

I agree WL, this is not the type of hobby I enjoy (if it is considered part of the hobby). But I did state that I kinda fell into it so I gave it a try and came through it ok. Still not sure how you would categorize her though. She's not trying to meet others for the same but says she has one other guy she sees for the same arrangement. By that standard, I would say she is not UTR. I do think she has boyfriends or hook ups but they run in her circle of friends and are more her age. By your standard, I would say she's not a SB. And although I mostly agree with your definition of UTR, I think a SB could range from a full time executive mistress to a trailer park tramp in training. This girl is naive, disorganized, and ill prepared but she's not innocent, and she's looking for quick money. We just met again and she started blowing me up to meet earlier in the day than scheduled because she was in a bind. I agreed and altered my schedule accordingly. Fifteen minutes later she tried to push it back so she could "take a friend to work". I replied that "no thanks, maybe we can meet some other day". She amazingly reverted back to the agreed schedule. She later let it slip that she needed the money to shop for something to wear this weekend (yeah, she's in a bind). She also took a couple of calls while there. I didn't really care because we weren't on the clock, but I heard a lot of criminal and civil drama just on her end. After our meeting, I told her I was working out of town for a while, I'd call her soon.

The good news for you guys (I think), she's considering body rubs if anyone "randomly inquired". YMMV, but don't expect GFE.

[Member #6050]

I believe some are mistaking a UTR as a Sugar Baby. A sugar baby wouldn't have multiple customers or maybe even a boyfriend. She would be an exclusive kept woman outside of your normal life. And very expensive.

Any girl that considers advertising or seeing other "clients", yes you are a client, is a provider. Under the radar, low volume, what ever way you want to spin it.

I agree with what you've said contrasting sb's with utr's.

Usually a true sugar baby has a very involved life and limited need for exclusive male company. She might be a full time student or working single mom, for example. For whatever reasons, she is looking for occasional male company with sex included but also some financial "help". How expensive? That depends on the girl, her needs, how she feels about the male and the amount of contact. It strikes me as outside my definition of a prostitute. In many cases "gold digger" might apply but not always.

A UTR girl is your normal escort who choose to advertise quietly and selectively. It's still pay for play according to her menu and still prostitution.

Unfortunately the sites don't distinguish between these girls so you have to met them to sort out which they are.

[ScreamingSheep]

I believe some are mistaking a UTR as a Sugar Baby. A sugar baby wouldn't have multiple customers or maybe even a boyfriend. She would be an exclusive kept woman outside of your normal life. And very expensive.

Any girl that considers advertising or seeing other "clients", yes you are a client, is a provider. Under the radar, low volume, what ever way you want to spin it.

[Member #6050]

As goes for most of us, I never want the hobby life to cross over into real life. She doesn't strike me as the vengeful type but non of them do until they feel like someone did them wrong (cut her loose). I found out a ton of info about me just by Googling my own name and phone number (she has neither of those BTW). But where most providers wouldn't care or pursue, a young NSA girl without a day job could possibly call the SO, employer, drive by, extort, arrange burglary with other jobless friends, etc. Again, I don't think this girl would but I have read of such right here on this site. I'm sure I'm being paranoid, others would say I'm staying sharp, either way I expect it will eventually turn to drama I don't need. I've actually hinted that I may know others that might be willing to pay for her time and there was no response so I let it go. If that changes, I'll post about it.

Sounds like you need to head off in another direction besides sugars.

[GutterMind4]

Most sugar babies are young, naive, want a nsa with a financial arrangement to make ends meet. They don't consider themselves prostitutes or advertising as such nor do they have a sex for pay menu. Your girl seems to fit the description. Not sure what your concern is.

As goes for most of us, I never want the hobby life to cross over into real life. She doesn't strike me as the vengeful type but non of them do until they feel like someone did them wrong (cut her loose). I found out a ton of info about me just by Googling my own name and phone number (she has neither of those BTW). But where most providers wouldn't care or pursue, a young NSA girl without a day job could possibly call the SO, employer, drive by, extort, arrange burglary with other jobless friends, etc. Again, I don't think this girl would but I have read of such right here on this site. I'm sure I'm being paranoid, others would say I'm staying sharp, either way I expect it will eventually turn to drama I don't need. I've actually hinted that I may know others that might be willing to pay for her time and there was no response so I let it go. If that changes, I'll post about it.

[Slugger]

Most sugar babies are young, naive, want a nsa with a financial arrangement to make ends meet. They don't consider themselves prostitutes or advertising as such nor do they have a sex for pay menu. Your girl seems to fit the description. Not sure what your concern is.

I absolutely agree. I had one that I had met at a strip club about a year ago. Young, super hot, sensual. She definitely did not equate what we were doing to be an escort type of pay for play arrangement, but continually would hint for additional gifts in addition to the green ones she expected. As phenomenal as the meetings were, as well as her good looks, the requests and expectations on her end were too much. The dollar amount, while pretty high was not a problem, just the wants and the request for more frequent visits (was doing about once every three weeks) was too much. I also found out later that she had this arrangement with at least one other guy as well. Good luck! Just remember that no matter how hot she is, there is some guy that is tired of her shit.