What finally worked for me: at well over 60 years old?

[Genghis2]

Yeah, "taking too much desensitized things" reminds me that I read once about "V fatigue", like it takes more to have an effect after a while. I don't know if that's true, but it seems like it for me. A 10 mg C at first was plenty but not now. But maybe its just because I'm getting older!

This topic has been commented on quite a bit by me and others. Everyone is different, and YOU as an adult are responsible for your own actions. And as always, consult your physician before you take any medicines.

Here is what I seem to know Anecdotally. There seems to be a differnce in V,C,and L between the US and foreign manufacturers. Also batch strength seems to vary from time to time. This may be perhaps due to other herbal ingredients added to the pill. (I am not there to see how they make the pills) This evidence comes from the numerous herbal pills off of Ebay that work great for the first batch or so then fail to work later, especially after the company is taken to court by the FDA for having found ED meds in the herbal mix. So my thinking is that since the meds cost so much cheaper from overseas, maybe the manufacturers use a lesser amount at times of the real active ingredient then add herbal ingredients to help with the effectiveness and increase profits. Just IMHO. Anyways, I have experimented quite a bit, and like most guys on this site would like to be ready for action at any and every time the opportunity presents itself. So with that said, and the fact that I am not getting any younger, I tend to take a 10 mg of C every other day, stopping if for sure I know that I am not going to get lucky for a day or so. When I am sure someone is lined up for fun, I take a 50 or 100 mg of V along with an asprin to get rid of the headache I know I will get about an hour before fun ON AN EMPTY STOMACH. I have found this combo along with some nice foreplay gets me to work every time so far. I occasionaly mix it up with a L, instead of the V, but have found I get weakness in my legs and or back when taking the L. So I typically stay with what works. I am anxious to try the generic version of Avanafil if and when I can find it to see how it works. As to the gentleman who mentioned that the pills don't work as well anymore as they used to, I would agree that you can get burnout from most any medicine or supplement. I would recommend taking a few days or even a week off as with any vitamin or supplement you take. Bodybuilders are known for doing this to prevent exactly the problem we are talking about. On a side note, taking a regular dose of C DOES keep the prostate loose. LOL.

Just my thoughts.

G2.

[Oldmonger]

I was told that it's not good to mix V and C, as they treat ED differently and could be counter productive.

Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra are PDE5 inhibitors. They are different molecules, but they all work in the same way. They do not interact with each other.

The primary reason men are advised not to mix them is because each lowers blood pressure, possibly to a dangerously low level. In other words, you can take a seemingly safe amount of Viagra, and a seemingly safe amount of Cialis, and end up with an unsafe combination of both.

[Hans3]

Too much may yield that 4 hour boner that we hear about in commercials. Me I have to take a v and a c then something herbal like ginseng. On some rare occasions I am stuck after the deed with a boner that won't go down. I would say 1:30. That one though is painful. I think taking too much desensitized things.

Yeah, "taking too much desensitized things" reminds me that I read once about "V fatigue", like it takes more to have an effect after a while. I don't know if that's true, but it seems like it for me. A 10 mg C at first was plenty but not now. But maybe its just because I'm getting older!

[Hans3]

I was told that it's not good to mix V and C, as they treat ED differently and could be counter productive.

Thanks, good to know.

[StephenOh]

I think 100 V is just on the border of being enough for me, at least for an effect that lasts long enough. So if I'm tired or a little under the weather it isn't enough.

I was told that it's not good to mix V and C, as they treat ED differently and could be counter productive.

[Oldmonger]

Np, it's one of the greatest pill I've used. Actually it gives me better results than generic V and C which a lot of them are made in China now not India.

Mikey,

The term "generic" can mean almost anything on this forum. What generic brands of V and C are you using?

I am not aware of any brand of Chinese V and C. The only time I hear about Chinese V is when DEA / FBI seizes it from guys selling on Craigslist. The Chinese government occasionally shuts down garage operations that make V. Please post some links to sources of Chinese V and C.

Why anyone would buy V and C, from little-know Chinese manufacturers, is beyond me.

OM.

[Gigabyte40]

Good advice, thanks. I'll investigate the injections instead.

I'm pretty sure there is a forum on this board that discusses injections. Lots of info there.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9803-Any-Injection-users

I believe the injections are more effective than pills with fewer side effects.

Of course the biggest problem is you have to stick a needle in your d*ck but it's a tiny one.

People who get used to sticking themselves will tell you it's no big deal.

GB40.

[Oldmonger]

Thanks. Really good information. A few times when I needed double I have tried V plus a C but I'm not convinced it helps much. I guess I'll give up on combining them. Like somebody else said, I should do more exercise and lose a little weight and that might work better!

Your underlying health can limit the effectiveness of V. Weight loss, exercise, and a good diet will give the V a better chance of working.

[Mikey080]

Thanks for the tip. I'll look for it.

Np, it's one of the greatest pill I've used. Actually it gives me better results than generic V and C which a lot of them are made in China now not India.

[Miketastic69]

There are many factors at play, but taking additional V may not make a difference if you are tired or a little under the weather.

Too much may yield that 4 hour boner that we hear about in commercials. Me I have to take a v and a c then something herbal like ginseng. On some rare occasions I am stuck after the deed with a boner that won't go down. I would say 1:30. That one though is painful. I think taking too much desensitized things.

[Oldmonger]

I think 100 V is just on the border of being enough for me, at least for an effect that lasts long enough. So if I'm tired or a little under the weather it isn't enough.

There are many factors at play, but taking additional V may not make a difference if you are tired or a little under the weather.

[Hans3]

I don't think it's a good idea to exceed 100 mg V or 20 mg C. And don't combine either. A serious complication could be low blood pressure.

If you're not getting results from those, consider shots of bimix and trimix (injections of alprostadil, papaverine, and phentolamine). Those should definitely do the trick.

GB40.

Good advice, thanks. I'll investigate the injections instead.

[Hans3]

My experience has been that sticking with one and increasing the dose until I found the dose that works is better. Whenever I would mix V and C I'd get no effect from either.

Also, strange as it sounds, I found that if I took an advil along with V it didn't work as good.

Thanks. Really good information. A few times when I needed double I have tried V plus a C but I'm not convinced it helps much. I guess I'll give up on combining them. Like somebody else said, I should do more exercise and lose a little weight and that might work better!

[Gigabyte40]

Sometimes I need more help than just a 100 mg V. Any idea if its better to go with two V, or combining a V and a C?

I don't think it's a good idea to exceed 100 mg V or 20 mg C. And don't combine either. A serious complication could be low blood pressure.

If you're not getting results from those, consider shots of bimix and trimix (injections of alprostadil, papaverine, and phentolamine). Those should definitely do the trick.

GB40.

[Hans3]

Look on eBay for Laopiaoke pill, it's good.

Thanks for the tip. I'll look for it.