Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[CaneBay]

SA is a gold mine with lots of different types of arrangements available. Dates range from just dinner and respect (no $) up too $$$ for the date. There is no way I would do an hourly charge. Most of my dates are 2 hrs up to overnight.

I made a profile a few weeks ago. Just finally committed to it with my wallet. Met my first this morning, publically. According to her, I was first she met with from site also, who really knows. Nerves on both our parts. Ended a couple hour meet / greet with her stating " Basically I'm agreeing to an affair with you for money", I said yes, she said ok. Pretty much agreed to $. 5 per hour no matter what we're doing. Time will tell. I'll try to keep board updated. BTW, young 30's, curvy, not bbw by any stretch, smelled wonderful, pretty face, easy to talk with.

[Nickn3]

This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.

As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.

SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.

1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.

2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 10%.

3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.

4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.

5. Married women. 5%.

6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.

7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.

There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.

I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).

I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.

I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.

Seeks.

Sign me up for the 5% of married women who just want to have fun. Ladies, I am looking for entertainment this week. Send me a PM if you are interested.

Nick.

[Jem411]

I made a profile a few weeks ago. Just finally committed to it with my wallet. Met my first this morning, publically. According to her, I was first she met with from site also, who really knows. Nerves on both our parts. Ended a couple hour meet / greet with her stating " Basically I'm agreeing to an affair with you for money", I said yes, she said ok. Pretty much agreed to $. 5 per hour no matter what we're doing. Time will tell. I'll try to keep board updated. BTW, young 30's, curvy, not bbw by any stretch, smelled wonderful, pretty face, easy to talk with.

[Member #5090]

Thanks all! Appreciate the good info. I'm curious to know which SD / SB site you think is best. I'm borderline on SA and SD4 M.

[SeeksEasy]

This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.

As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.

SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.

1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.

2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 10%.

3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.

4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.

5. Married women. 5%.

6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.

7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.

There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.

I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).

I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.

I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.

Seeks.

[MilfMan865]

This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: what is reasonable to offer for this area? I started out a couple of years back, thinking I needed to be well above escort rates to get any interest from SBs. But recently, I tried 200/ date and 100/ date, for multi-hour dates. Got lots of interest even at 100 (which was very surprising). So I have no idea what a reasonable offer around here is. Any thoughts?

This is Knoxville, TN, and not a place like Atlanta or Vegas. The half hour rates should simply be ignored. It's hard to imagine a provider in this area commanding more than 150/ hr for the first visit and then it will likely go to 100/ hr after repeat visits. It doesn't matter whether she is a young, spinner or a a mature, MILF. One of the benefits of the SB arrangement is that the provider should be able to count on a certain amount of assistance per month. If you agree on 1 K / month or whatever, spend multiple hours not engaged in intercourse, probably provide extra assistance by addressing her emergency monetary needs, provide her with gifts, take her traveling, buy her school books, etc. On top of that, you're more focused on the dates and cultivating the arrangement instead of having the clock watched. It really boils down to the rapport that you have with the provider and acknowledge that the terms of the arrangement are subject to adjustment based on your mutual needs. Most success can be found with girls new to providing services, UTRs, college girls, or ladies who are not the bpage type or seasoned providers. If you are looking for exclusivity (or the illusion of that), be prepared to pay much more for that privilege. If it equals out to 100-150/ visit, that should be right for the little sleepy town of Knoxville.

Happy Hunting,

MilfMan.

[Orbits]

"How do you know which ones to contact?" I've gotten this question a few times, and while I don't claim to know the correct answer, my own answer is straightforward -- I don't. On SA and other SD / SB sites, I send messages to every girl I find attractive. I completely ignore their stated financial expectations, and mostly ignore whatever else they write on their profile (although if it says something like "take care of me, and I'll take care of you", that's usually a very good sign). You never know when the supposedly 10 k / month ones are actually just kidding about that, and it turns out they're perfectly fine with 100/ date. The one I'm seeing regularly now is a perfect example: asked for 2 k / month initially, took 200/ date, 4-5 times a month.

This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: what is reasonable to offer for this area? I started out a couple of years back, thinking I needed to be well above escort rates to get any interest from SBs. But recently, I tried 200/ date and 100/ date, for multi-hour dates. Got lots of interest even at 100 (which was very surprising). So I have no idea what a reasonable offer around here is. Any thoughts?

[Gibson1970]

I've never asked for exclusivity with any of them, it's not something that matters to me. I think it's one of those things that's easy for them to agree to if someone asks for it. But would they actually take it seriously? I wouldn't bet on it.

I require my SB's to be exclusive as I only have one SB at a time. Do I know for sure she isn't seeing someone else. No.

Just make sure you both are clear on what you expect from each other up front.

[Orbits]

Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?

I've never asked for exclusivity with any of them, it's not something that matters to me. I think it's one of those things that's easy for them to agree to if someone asks for it. But would they actually take it seriously? I wouldn't bet on it.

[Member #5090]

I hope not or else that website I posted earlier is going to get me in trouble. LOL Speaking of SD4 M, I just got kissed by a girl from the Ukraine. I think we have a shot.

Hope y"all don't mind me butting in. I do SD4 M. Not sure if this thread is exclusively to talk about SA. Let me know.

[Bendme]

Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?

Might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Only if they're lucky!

It's all about the cash, guy.

[Gooshpop]

Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?

Deep pockets certainly help (same as with just about anything else). Mine could use a lot more depth, but even with relatively limited resources, these sites can work. I'm not spending any more now than I was when I was seeing Alexis the Retired 3-5 times a month. In fact, it's actually less. It's not nearly as bad as it may seem if you're just looking at their stated expectations. They'll list anything there -- 5 k, 10 k / month. Doesn't hurt to ask, I guess. But I'm pretty sure very few of them ever get that. Well, maybe in places like NYC, Chicago, Bay area they might. For most of them, what they ask for and what they will happily accept are two very different things. This is a very rough estimate, but I'd say most are good with getting 20-50% of their initially stated expectation.

The big downside of these types of sites for me is that they requires way more effort and patience in communication and initial date setup than scheduling with an escort. It's also necessary to figure out what she is and isn't comfortable with before meeting in person. Some are adamant about "not being an escort", so you might run into some 3-dates rules and other conditions like that. I usually pass and move on to the next one immediately if I get any indication of this sort of thing.

As far as drama goes, it's been surprisingly drama-free so far. I'm very careful in choosing who I meet though.

[Member #5090]

Here's another site to search. Although my experience so far is you'll see a lot of the same ladies again.

Whatsyourprice.com

[HollywoodGuy]

Hope y"all don't mind me butting in. I do SD4 M. Not sure if this thread is exclusively to talk about SA. Let me know.

[RJHunter]

I live between Nashville and KNoxville so I check out both Cities. I have found Seeking Arrangement to be the best website (navigation wise) and with better variety of women.

Overall I have found being a SD is much more time consuming and lots more drama than Providers. I started seeing Providers 3 years ago. I would get in, get out and not think about them after I left. I saw a few Providers multiple times (Alexis 1987, Chloe Cummings and a few SBL ladies). After two years I thought I would try a SB and see if I liked it. I found a 22 year old college girl in my town and we started seeing each other. We agreed on roughly $1,000 month for 1-2 meetings a week with sex (this was about what I was spending on Providers so I was ok). Within two months she was pregnant with her ex BF and then the drama started. She had a rough pregnancy and couldn't work, she dropped out of school, had to make rent, had a car payment, yada, yada, yada. She was always needing additional money for things and when I didn't oblige, she always got upset and threw a tantrum. It is a ton of drama, but you also get more emotionally than you would from a Provider. Kind of like a girlfriend lite LOL.

I have done 4-5 Meet and Greets with ladies that didn't go any further than the first Meeting / Lunch.

I am now seeing a girl every other week I met off Seeking Arrangement. It's almost like a P4 P, but it is way cheaper. So far we have fucked twice and I paid her $60 and $80. She is great in bed, looks good and so far no drama. So far LOL.

Hope this helps.

That does help. Thanks.