Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[HollywoodGuy]

This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.

As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.

SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.

1. P2P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.

2. P2P providers just looking for another venue 10%.

3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.

4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.

5. Married women. 5%.

6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.

7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.

There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.

I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).

I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.

I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.

Seeks.

Here is my estimate for los angeles.

1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 20%.

2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 30%.

3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 20%.

4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.

5. Married women. 1%.

6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.

7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. 9%.

The rates vary from $ (better have some game) $$ (no game required, girl quality up to a 9) $$$ to $$$$ (for real Hollywood 10's and GPS girls).

I mostly date 1's and 3's. I hit up the 2's occasionally in between. The 4's are too old for me. The 6's and 7's I cant afford. Never date a 5, no reason to.

[RJHunter]

I was averaging. We have agreed to $5 monthly. With 10 - 15 hours of meetings. I'm sure it could progress to spending a night, but not right off. What would I tell my wife. I'm actually waiting to meet number two right now. Typical, I show up 10 minutes early and she's already 10 minutes late. More to be revealed. And yes it is time consuming.

Do you mean $500 or $5,000 monthly?

[BigBubbaBobby]

Chat about individual girls on SA here? Links to the site aren't visible unless you are a member and logged in. Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone has seen this girl: "Jetsetter" She looks pretty hot but wanted a steep per meet arrangement of $850! Said she got $5 k / month in her last arrangement which, I'm guessing, had to be in LA!

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea27a1e6/view

[Jem411]

SA is a gold mine with lots of different types of arrangements available. Dates range from just dinner and respect (no $) up too $$$ for the date. There is no way I would do an hourly charge. Most of my dates are 2 hrs up to overnight.

I was averaging. We have agreed to $5 monthly. With 10 - 15 hours of meetings. I'm sure it could progress to spending a night, but not right off. What would I tell my wife. I'm actually waiting to meet number two right now. Typical, I show up 10 minutes early and she's already 10 minutes late. More to be revealed. And yes it is time consuming.

[Orbits]

There is no way I would do an hourly charge.

I'd tend to agree, I can't think of any advantages that an hourly rate arrangement would have. But I suppose there might be some that I'm not thinking of. A weekly / monthly or even a per-date arrangement means long dates, no need for timekeeping / clockwatching, a more relaxed pace. Those are pretty much all the biggest reasons why I like them, so going hourly seems like a bad idea to me.

[ThermoNuclear]

After a lot of effort, my results on SA for my first month have been less than stellar.

1) Youngish lady of color met for lunch and maybe more. I (yet again) made a big mistake, as her coy pics didn't reveal a largish figure, which my stupid monkey limbic system just does not respond to. She was nice and willing. Oh well.

2) MILF trying to get back on her feet. Met a couple times but ultimately I bailed due to hygiene concerns, recovering roommates, and imminent drama. She also was pressuring me to buy her a car. I think she belongs in that 45% 'desperate' category that SeeksEasy nicely documented in his post.

3) I almost met up with an expensive not-a-provider provider, but I was pretty sure it was going to be a let down compared to the actual providers around here, and the hassle of getting a room, and this. And that. And. Not worth the effort.

I'm still checking the board these last couple of weeks, but am not getting nearly as much response, possibly due to new competition from you bastards (just kidding, more power to you).

All-in-all it's been a lot of effort and very little pay off. If I was a bottom feeder (not that, you sicko), there seems to be lots of desperation to take advantage of, but that's not what I'm looking for. Of course YMMV.

[CaneBay]

SA is a gold mine with lots of different types of arrangements available. Dates range from just dinner and respect (no $) up too $$$ for the date. There is no way I would do an hourly charge. Most of my dates are 2 hrs up to overnight.

I made a profile a few weeks ago. Just finally committed to it with my wallet. Met my first this morning, publically. According to her, I was first she met with from site also, who really knows. Nerves on both our parts. Ended a couple hour meet / greet with her stating " Basically I'm agreeing to an affair with you for money", I said yes, she said ok. Pretty much agreed to $. 5 per hour no matter what we're doing. Time will tell. I'll try to keep board updated. BTW, young 30's, curvy, not bbw by any stretch, smelled wonderful, pretty face, easy to talk with.

[Nickn3]

This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.

As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.

SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.

1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.

2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 10%.

3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.

4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.

5. Married women. 5%.

6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.

7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.

There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.

I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).

I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.

I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.

Seeks.

Sign me up for the 5% of married women who just want to have fun. Ladies, I am looking for entertainment this week. Send me a PM if you are interested.

Nick.

[Jem411]

I made a profile a few weeks ago. Just finally committed to it with my wallet. Met my first this morning, publically. According to her, I was first she met with from site also, who really knows. Nerves on both our parts. Ended a couple hour meet / greet with her stating " Basically I'm agreeing to an affair with you for money", I said yes, she said ok. Pretty much agreed to $. 5 per hour no matter what we're doing. Time will tell. I'll try to keep board updated. BTW, young 30's, curvy, not bbw by any stretch, smelled wonderful, pretty face, easy to talk with.

[Member #5090]

Thanks all! Appreciate the good info. I'm curious to know which SD / SB site you think is best. I'm borderline on SA and SD4 M.

[SeeksEasy]

This is an area in which I have some expertise and long-term experience.

As some of you know, I prefer massage, and AMPs are the going thing here. However, I use AMPs and other massage providers as a relief valve between relationships. For the last 20 years, some of those relationships have been conventional, and some have been from SA.

SA is an odd world, made possible only by the Internet. Here are the categories I have found to be true, and my guestimates of the percentages of SA women making them up.

1. P2 P girls who do not think of themselves as providers 15%.

2. P2 P providers just looking for another venue 10%.

3. Girls / women with various states of dysfunction in their lives, bordering on homelessness and losing their kids to just not being able to manage the basics of day to day life. 45%.

4. Divorced / seperated women with reduced circumstances who are still functional, but want to meet a different type of man. 10%.

5. Married women. 5%.

6. Girls / women who have their act together, and use the site to meet successful men. 10%.

7. 10+ models / actresses who use their stunning combination of looks, brains, and drive to attract the uber-rich. Unknown.

There are exceptions. And there are certainly members who are in several categories at once.

I have recently re-entered the SA world, and it does take more effort, as I am after some type of connection, not just sex. It takes effort to get to the category you want (mine are in 4 and 6; I do not have funds for 7, and they are not looking to come to Knoxpatch anyway.).

I agree with the comment that you should ignore the stated goals (not many girls in Knoxville can command 10 K per month.) In this, as in all relationships, looking good, being respectful, and being honest go a long way.

I am in the midst of working something out with one woman after several months search. I have opinions on many of the recent active members if anyone wants to PM me.

Seeks.

[MilfMan865]

This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: what is reasonable to offer for this area? I started out a couple of years back, thinking I needed to be well above escort rates to get any interest from SBs. But recently, I tried 200/ date and 100/ date, for multi-hour dates. Got lots of interest even at 100 (which was very surprising). So I have no idea what a reasonable offer around here is. Any thoughts?

This is Knoxville, TN, and not a place like Atlanta or Vegas. The half hour rates should simply be ignored. It's hard to imagine a provider in this area commanding more than 150/ hr for the first visit and then it will likely go to 100/ hr after repeat visits. It doesn't matter whether she is a young, spinner or a a mature, MILF. One of the benefits of the SB arrangement is that the provider should be able to count on a certain amount of assistance per month. If you agree on 1 K / month or whatever, spend multiple hours not engaged in intercourse, probably provide extra assistance by addressing her emergency monetary needs, provide her with gifts, take her traveling, buy her school books, etc. On top of that, you're more focused on the dates and cultivating the arrangement instead of having the clock watched. It really boils down to the rapport that you have with the provider and acknowledge that the terms of the arrangement are subject to adjustment based on your mutual needs. Most success can be found with girls new to providing services, UTRs, college girls, or ladies who are not the bpage type or seasoned providers. If you are looking for exclusivity (or the illusion of that), be prepared to pay much more for that privilege. If it equals out to 100-150/ visit, that should be right for the little sleepy town of Knoxville.

Happy Hunting,

MilfMan.

[Orbits]

"How do you know which ones to contact?" I've gotten this question a few times, and while I don't claim to know the correct answer, my own answer is straightforward -- I don't. On SA and other SD / SB sites, I send messages to every girl I find attractive. I completely ignore their stated financial expectations, and mostly ignore whatever else they write on their profile (although if it says something like "take care of me, and I'll take care of you", that's usually a very good sign). You never know when the supposedly 10 k / month ones are actually just kidding about that, and it turns out they're perfectly fine with 100/ date. The one I'm seeing regularly now is a perfect example: asked for 2 k / month initially, took 200/ date, 4-5 times a month.

This reminds me of a question I've been meaning to ask: what is reasonable to offer for this area? I started out a couple of years back, thinking I needed to be well above escort rates to get any interest from SBs. But recently, I tried 200/ date and 100/ date, for multi-hour dates. Got lots of interest even at 100 (which was very surprising). So I have no idea what a reasonable offer around here is. Any thoughts?

[Gibson1970]

I've never asked for exclusivity with any of them, it's not something that matters to me. I think it's one of those things that's easy for them to agree to if someone asks for it. But would they actually take it seriously? I wouldn't bet on it.

I require my SB's to be exclusive as I only have one SB at a time. Do I know for sure she isn't seeing someone else. No.

Just make sure you both are clear on what you expect from each other up front.

[Orbits]

Are these understood to be exclusive arrangements (on the part of the ladies) or might they have arrangements with more than one guy? Or does it matter as long as you are getting what you want?

I've never asked for exclusivity with any of them, it's not something that matters to me. I think it's one of those things that's easy for them to agree to if someone asks for it. But would they actually take it seriously? I wouldn't bet on it.