The Rat Trap

[AndyIZ]

Yes I very much have strong opinions if a provider doesn't want to verify. A simple video call with Snapchat isn't jumping through hoops. We both verify we're legit, no catfish or pigs. That's very good to do on both sides. Video call is preferred but if not then a verification picture would be next. If you're just showing up to see a girl without those two then is absolutely 50/50 chance it's good time or bad time. Bad time doesn't have to mean it's a pig or robber. It could be cat fish which is very common. The other 50 she's the girl from fhe ad or someone who looks very similar. So it's 50/50 no matter what. It depends how much of an itch you have and willing to risk.

Secondly if a provider says she will be ready but a certain time she should adhere to it. I get maybe a 5 minutes delay but a whole 15-20 minutes? That's absurd. If you let that slide these providers will always feel they can pull one over you. Next they will have you waiting an extra 30-40 minutes. You have to make them know that you're not just waiting on them and that they are disposable just like you are. But hey if you let providers run one over you then so be it. This girl told md 25 minutes. Then 15-20 minutes later after saying I was there. She says she's ready? Nah, I'm sorry that doesn't fly with me. Luckily I always have a few in my roster that will easily be ready for me, but of course nothing is better than new one, but not good enough to make me wait longer than agreed.

Finally I never said anything negative about the member. All I said was I'll wait until more members comment on her because he only has 70 posts and another at 36. Other have done the same to me. When I gave a review dump someone commented that they will wait until more senior members vouch on my providers. I didn't take it personal LOL. It looks like her did lmao. The admins obviously review my posts before posting so if they felt it wasn't worth posting or insulting a member they would not post it.

I'll continue to post on my experiences with these providers. I'll be a voice of reason for those who want to weigh their options. You can just scroll past them if you don't like it.

Take care and be safe.

I agree with EveryDayJ.

AndyIZ, you seem to have strong opinions that because a lady does not send you photos that you request, or if she tells you to give her some time to get ready, or your many other reasons, that she is likely popo or fake or deserving of a negative review, even though you did not actually meet her. No offense, but many of your posts are just stupid and simply clutter the review threads.

Obviously you are free to have your personal opinions as well as being free to share them. But really, who cares that some lady did not send you photos of your specific request (I. E. , wearing yellow lingerie with crotchless panties while throwing up gang signs while sticking tongue out while holding nostrils closed while bending over backwards while. Etc.)? Most of these ladies do not want to jump through your multiple hoops, which is okay and there is nothing wrong with that.

Posting nonsense about the 50/50 chance that someone is popo because they do not want to entertain your stupid request is a waste of everyones time. If you don't want to see them for whatever reason you may have, then just don't see them. But stop trying to attack the credibility of mongers on the board unless you have some good reason that you can properly articulate.

[Ballsagna]

I agree with EveryDayJ.

AndyIZ, you seem to have strong opinions that because a lady does not send you photos that you request, or if she tells you to give her some time to get ready, or your many other reasons, that she is likely popo or fake or deserving of a negative review, even though you did not actually meet her. No offense, but many of your posts are just stupid and simply clutter the review threads.

Obviously you are free to have your personal opinions as well as being free to share them. But really, who cares that some lady did not send you photos of your specific request (I. E. , wearing yellow lingerie with crotchless panties while throwing up gang signs while sticking tongue out while holding nostrils closed while bending over backwards while. Etc.)? Most of these ladies do not want to jump through your multiple hoops, which is okay and there is nothing wrong with that.

Posting nonsense about the 50/50 chance that someone is popo because they do not want to entertain your stupid request is a waste of everyones time. If you don't want to see them for whatever reason you may have, then just don't see them. But stop trying to attack the credibility of mongers on the board unless you have some good reason that you can properly articulate.

If you scared to see a *****, please just say that. Leave me the fuck out of it.

[EveryDay J]

I'm about to leave a mid review on her. I don't think it will be completely negative but it won't be positive. She does not want to verify with the video call or a picture verification. She will show you a picture verification of any pose you want but it will not be naked. When I ask if she can show her a picture of herself, naked, she can cover her face with a few fingers sticking up. She denies and says no. She will not do a video call either.

I understand that you had a good review, but you only have 36 posts. The other guy who gave her a good review only has about 70 posts. I rarely ever meet up with a girl without some form of verification. Either a video call or a picture. And she's willing to show her melons or the taco. Without that it's a risk in my opinion. 50/50 she's a pig.

Only time I will not require it is if there several reviews for her from reputable members.

If you scared to see a *****, please just say that. Leave me the fuck out of it.

[TRowePrice]

Reminds me of the big mac in the menu vs the big mac you get in person LOL.

Sir, your ads are lies LOL. Now you have grumpy patrons.

[AndyIZ]

It's fake, just tell them to F off and suck a D. I hope you use burner numbers though. Never use your personal number.

Just a quick reminder to play it safe. I've been tired of the misrepresentation between the ad and the actual dream. Most of my inquiries have been on Latina options around I-Drive and Airport. No verification and move on. Obvious fake photo, move on. I guess I've ruffled some feathers because I now have to resolve my issue or face the consequences. LOL.

Stay safe!

[Carlosa]

Just a quick reminder to play it safe. I've been tired of the misrepresentation between the ad and the actual dream. Most of my inquiries have been on Latina options around I-Drive and Airport. No verification and move on. Obvious fake photo, move on. I guess I've ruffled some feathers because I now have to resolve my issue or face the consequences. LOL.

Stay safe!

That's an extortion scam.

[KnowNose]

Just a quick reminder to play it safe. I've been tired of the misrepresentation between the ad and the actual dream. Most of my inquiries have been on Latina options around I-Drive and Airport. No verification and move on. Obvious fake photo, move on. I guess I've ruffled some feathers because I now have to resolve my issue or face the consequences. LOL.

Stay safe!

[Bjceb]

Some of the bs latinos that are obviously part of a service are now trying to get $. 5 for a qv and. 5 BBBJ upgrade.

Let them starve until get real.

Ok lets face it. COVID is over. Why are hooker prices still so high? ($120 QV, $160 HHR and $200 HR) is beyond me. I feel many of us here remember the old days of ($60 QV, $100 HHR, and $140 HHR) I will preface these are just my humble thoughts. Why'all pay whatever you want but I think we really need to curb this now than later.

For STG, ListCrawl. Pricing should be $100 QV, $140 HHR and $160 HR (This includes BBBJ). Without BBBJ, remove $20. If you have some fetish outside of the normal add $20 or $40. No more to it.

For EROS. Only go for $300, do not book anything longer and push for whatever session you can get for $300.

For UTR / Sugar Babies. This is up to each but do not exceed $400. Mostly since you will have the ability to socialize more and connect with these girls (the good ones) the business ones who run it like a working girl, cut their rate in half (Her rate asking is $400, only do $200) since you can get the same nut extraction from a STG or ListCrawl gal.

Hoping I didn't open a can of worms but I am curious if any of you can help dial this pricing model down. Stay safe and try to keep as much of your hard earned green since holidays are coming up!

[Bjceb]

Interesting point. A recession always happens it's just a question of when, how long and severity.

As the economy gets worse, the regulars leave. Look at the stripper index.

This is all disposable income, that is not around when in a recession.

I am looking at December or January when it hits.

[Carlosa]

As the economy gets worse, the regulars leave. Look at the stripper index.

This is all disposable income, that is not around when in a recession.

I am looking at December or January when it hits.

[Monger654]

I believe the market will eventually reset on its own.

At some point supply / demand principles come into play.

My only fear is there's a percentage of guys still willing to pay and they're trading some quantity for a higher rate. Or they're doing the same volume and enjoy too much candy. OF isn't helping either and is creating a vacuum of newer talent that isn't there anymore.

[Bjceb]

I believe the market will eventually reset on its own.

At some point supply / demand principles come into play.

Ok lets face it. COVID is over. Why are hooker prices still so high? ($120 QV, $160 HHR and $200 HR) is beyond me. I feel many of us here remember the old days of ($60 QV, $100 HHR, and $140 HHR) I will preface these are just my humble thoughts. Why'all pay whatever you want but I think we really need to curb this now than later.

For STG, ListCrawl. Pricing should be $100 QV, $140 HHR and $160 HR (This includes BBBJ). Without BBBJ, remove $20. If you have some fetish outside of the normal add $20 or $40. No more to it.

For EROS. Only go for $300, do not book anything longer and push for whatever session you can get for $300.

For UTR / Sugar Babies. This is up to each but do not exceed $400. Mostly since you will have the ability to socialize more and connect with these girls (the good ones) the business ones who run it like a working girl, cut their rate in half (Her rate asking is $400, only do $200) since you can get the same nut extraction from a STG or ListCrawl gal.

Hoping I didn't open a can of worms but I am curious if any of you can help dial this pricing model down. Stay safe and try to keep as much of your hard earned green since holidays are coming up!

[Rjmredjr]

This is just crazy to me these prices are totally out of control but they must be getting it from a lot of guys including on this board which is their choice but if they get sucked into it like a girlfriend which I mistakenly did myself with 2 well known regulars and was told 350 wasn't enough anymore that's when I decided to take a break and visit MP's.

For 200 once in awhile hopefully supply & Demand will correct it but I'm not counting on that it will.

Stay Safe.

RJ.

Ok lets face it. COVID is over. Why are hooker prices still so high? ($120 QV, $160 HHR and $200 HR) is beyond me. I feel many of us here remember the old days of ($60 QV, $100 HHR, and $140 HHR) I will preface these are just my humble thoughts. Why'all pay whatever you want but I think we really need to curb this now than later.

For STG, ListCrawl. Pricing should be $100 QV, $140 HHR and $160 HR (This includes BBBJ). Without BBBJ, remove $20. If you have some fetish outside of the normal add $20 or $40. No more to it.

For EROS. Only go for $300, do not book anything longer and push for whatever session you can get for $300.

For UTR / Sugar Babies. This is up to each but do not exceed $400. Mostly since you will have the ability to socialize more and connect with these girls (the good ones) the business ones who run it like a working girl, cut their rate in half (Her rate asking is $400, only do $200) since you can get the same nut extraction from a STG or ListCrawl gal.

Hoping I didn't open a can of worms but I am curious if any of you can help dial this pricing model down. Stay safe and try to keep as much of your hard earned green since holidays are coming up!

[TRowePrice]

So its good to see that most who have commented share the same sentiment to a degree. Thank you.

I think and feel the next step is sort of to kick the tires with STG, LC and Tryst / Eros. How? Send a text to window shop and then when you get to pricing, just use the numbers here. I feel that will cause providers to ask "hey I am asking for $600 for this fish filet but mongers won't pay more than $300 or less" most will have to bend since pussy is a depreciating asset.

Now not to say Charles from Chicago is naive and will pay her full rate. But the 95% will have her say "maybe the times have changed".

[StyleNProfile]

For EROS. Only go for $300, do not book anything longer and push for whatever session you can get for $300.

I was just browsing Eros and Tryst last night and it's wild what these girls are asking now.

The only girls you can find on those sites for 300 are girls who should be (and probably are) posting on Listcrawler or STG for 150.

Girls that are actually worth 300 on Eros are now pricing themselves at 600 and up. And it's not Covid because even at the height of the pandemic these same girls weren't charging this much.

I used to love fucking high-end talent but these rates have gotten out of control. I keep hoping the market will correct itself, but I don't think it's happening anytime soon. There are too many simps out there who like to pretend these hot Eros girls are their girlfriends and will lavish them with gifts, take them on dates and vacations, stuff like that.