2000-2004 Archived Reports

[Peter_Girth]

Any information on any other places in the area or the SC on Lyons Road?

BSM

I can pretty much confirm what Voodoo Chile had to say about the new place in Belgium south of Danville. ;^) I would give the girl Cee Cee higher marks than a 5 though, and she gives the best massage I have ever had anywhere. The mamasan ain't bad looking either, leaving me to wonder if she is available for service as well.

[Turk1]

At least JoeJin has different girls unlike Bloomington. I like the variation and have never failed to get FS no matter the quality of the shower and massage which is the only purpose of going anyway.

[Bee Sure Man]

Does anyone have any news of recent activity in Danville? My last couple of visits to Joe-Jin have been what I would rate only as OK sessions. After having several really good sessions with providers who did excellent table showers and massages with very stimulating rubdowns, I have been disappointed more recently.

With the constant turnover in personnel it is usually a mystery as to how a new provider will work out and the table showers seem to vary widely by provider. I wish it were possible for a decent provider to stay at Joe-Jin for several months and it was possible to see a provider several times.

Any information on any other places in the area or the SC on Lyons Road?

BSM

[Downstate Dude]

Be careful mongering in the Danville area. LE is out in force. Read in the paper that 16 mongers were busted last week alone.

Dsj

[Spanky McPenis]

Sounds like Springfield, except theres really no Hit here. I havnt seen jack in 6 Months except the same Worn out 40 year old and the Sickly looking Black Girl/guy/Thing, Neither of which Id touch with your Dick. =D

[Yet Another Guy]

Spanky

Champaign is about as hit or miss as it gets. Used to be any day of the week, pretty much at the expected hours (before start of biz, lunch hour, after biz hours throughout the evening) you could find someone out and now...

2 months between sightings for me. I don't go out late at night, when I guess luck is better.

[Voodoo Chile]

Gentlemen,

Attention Danville area mongers. Last night, after visiting the new AMP south of Danville, I spotted something interesting while pulling out of the parking lot. Just across the street from the AMP at the edge of the vacant lot along Lyons Road sat what looked like a SW. Did not get a good look at her, but she looked pretty nice from where I sat. Young, blonde, about 5.5, 120 lbs. She was sitting on a post used to string wire across the entrance to the vacant lot, near the beauty shop with a Mexican sounding name. I don't have much experience with SWs, but given the location (across from an AMP and between two strip clubs), my instincts tell me she was working. She did not wave, but she did not entirely ignore me either. In addition, it was cold and raining, and I don't know why the girl would be there otherwise. I was not interested at the time and was in a hurry to catch a late dinner, so I did not stop. She might be worth checking into (so to speak).

Voodoo

[Spanky McPenis]

Now now CI, Not all of us with low Post Counts are Idiots, Some of us just live in Horrible Mongering towns where Next to nobody leaves any Info. Yay Springfield. Oh, then We Lose our Passwords for the six Post we Did have.

Is Champaign worth the Hour Drive, or is it Too hit and Miss over there to make it worth while?

[Yet Another Guy]

Had a chance to do the stroll last night, and ran across a late 30s blonde. Down on her luck and works off and on, seems I happened to be lucky enough to catch her out. No digits, living a semi-itinerant life trying to keep from going homeless.

At first I was really leery, coz she had a clean-cut look and a kind of athletic build - you know, that "Yes, I'm a lady cop and I can rip your head off" look. But she was too nonchalant about giving the look, and she hopped in the car as fast as you can say "Needaride?"

Okay looking, nice rack, 5'6" - 5'8". BBJTCIM for 25, more was available but didn't have the time and my car isn't built for it.

[Jimmy]

OK guys, lets let this one die. We haven't had any flaming in the central IL area in a long time and I would prefer not to have it start now. Lets get back to the real issue, which is finding our rare gems. One more thing please, lets not start a political arguement either (refering to CI's Kerry comment). Thanks guys, and lets keep the info coming.
I for one have yet to find anyone walking in Danville when I have been there. Am I missing the area or are there not many available?

[Ci-Traveler]

In his all consuming and extremely experienced 14th report, Play 12 said:

"And CI it doesn't matter how many post I have right now, it seems obvious with the number of posts that you have, paying is the only way you can get laid, but I am not going to further try and defend myself because you weren't there and you don't know the whole situation and I don't have the time or energy to right every single detail of that encounter, I am pretty sure no one here writes every single detail of each encounter they have."

Hey bud - that's a run on sentence. You should go back and edit your post.

I would suggest that you write a post that contains enough information in it to present at least a version of the story that comes close to allowing us to understand what you experienced. You didn't - and that was the problem. If you don't have the time to write enough to inform us, than it is a complete and utter waste of our time to read your dribble.

"Just because a sw offers a bj does that mean I have to accept it,no, if that's not what I am looking for I don't have to take one plain and simple. So like I said before CI you don't know the whole story so just drop it and harass someone else."

You feel harrassed? Holy BBBJCIM Batman!

I for one am very happy that you clarified all that you did in your last post. However, the way to avoid a flame war is to admit that you didn't present all the information (gee - this JUST MIGHT be the reason I and others reacted to your first post) - which resulted in us not having all the information and caused this problem to begin with. NOW she likes anal, and NOW your going in the opposite direction was back towards where you picked her up. NOW you weren't pissed off when you told all of us to pick her up and give her a good anal rammin and teach her a lesson. Are you related to John Kerry by any chance?

We don't have to be there. We don't WANT to be there. We want you to post accurately and effectively. We certainly don't want you suggesting that we all go out and find this girl who was afraid of you (perhaps for good reason - based on all of your posts so far) and teach her a lesson. By the way, if she genuinely enjoys anal, as you report, why would giving it to her teach her a lesson? That's a hole in your story bud (damn - sorry for the pun).

I sure hope your next report contains information that all of us can use in some way.

ci-traveler

[Play12]

Let me clarify one thing to everyone, the opposite way was taking her back to the area where I picked her up at. After I picked her up we drove around talking and negotiating, when all along she was just trying to get a free ride from me. I wasn't pissed off at all, I wasn't out of any money, I just wasn't going to let her use me for a free ride. And also to set the record straight, she says she enjoys doing anal, she says she didn't want to go to the place I had, because it was too far, and I asked her did she feel uncomfortable there and she said no. I think she was just looking for a quick fix because she was on her period.

Yet Another Guy is more along the lines of your number 2 reason. And CI it doesn't matter how many post I have right now, it seems obvious with the number of posts that you have, paying is the only way you can get laid, but I am not going to further try and defend myself because you weren't there and you don't know the whole situation and I don't have the time or energy to right every single detail of that encounter, I am pretty sure no one here writes every single detail of each encounter they have.

Just because a sw offers a bj does that mean I have to accept it,no, if that's not what I am looking for I don't have to take one plain and simple. So like I said before CI you don't know the whole story so just drop it and harass someone else.

12

[Yet Another Guy]

My .02 on Play12's posts -

Up until the very last sentence in his first post, there wasn't anything unusual about what he had to say. Some SW trying to get a free taxi ride? And one that would amount to at least a half hour of extra driving? (I'd put it at closer to an hour, round trip). How many of you would have said "No, get out of my car, I'm not your taxi."?

There's no way I'd have driven her that far - she's not my friend, she's someone I picked up for instant gratification. Period. I don't even know her true name - and what would be waiting for me at the places she wants me to take her? NO thank you.

That last sentence in his first post telling us "If any of you guys see her give a good anal ramming to teach her a good lesson..not to try and get over on us mongers." was a bit over the top.

Things that came to my mind:

1) She was frightened about going to that private place again; 2) She was just looking for a lift to get her fix and thought she could con him into doing it;
3) That anal play with him was the first time for her, and she wasn't willing to go through with it again.

A myriad of other scenarios come to mind, there's no way to know what was she was thinking. It's clear she was NOT thinking about going to Play12's private place for another greek lesson. We don't even know what her motivations were for agreeing to it the first time with him - Fear? Curiosity? Hunger? Needing a fix? Whatever it was, she wasn't going to do it again, that's obvious.

Whatever the case may be, telling the rest of us to "teach her a lesson" comes off pretty ruthless, especially since he thought it was "funny" to toss her out in the cold. IMHO, he went TOTALLY over the top telling other mongers to "give it to her so she will remember it." That's just cruel. She didn't do anything to warrant being abused or punished by anyone, she didn't even take any money.

Would I have been pissed that I'd wasted my time on her? Probably. Would I pick her up again? No. Would I tell other guys of the experience? Maybe, but she didn't actually rip him off, but she DID try to play some sort of game on him - to what intent, we don't know.

No matter what she's doing to raise money, or why, she DOES control what is done to her and by her - unless you're promoting some act of violence against her. Play12, please tell us that that isn't the case. Whatever else the women in this game are, they're still human beings.

[Ci-Traveler]

Carb wrote:

"Perhaps I'm a softie but I probably would have taken the time to give the girl a ride to Georgetown and looked for something later. It seems that all of the boards have at least one guy who acts more like a sadist than a monger. Just my 2 cents worth."

Not just 2 cents in my book. What you wrote is worth reading - because it embodies what everyone whould be - compassionate.

I read about how Lefty (Milwaukee board) describes his alleged dates with women and how he gets back at them. My reason for clarifying on this board is so that the idiots who think that is cool behavior is what causes the hobby to be in the kind of shape it is in. Hell - LE is looking for a dude who killed 5 street walkers in Peoria, IL over the past several years. Because of that kind of stupid behavior, the rest of us suffer. The Lefty's of the world are truly angry at women and think that their fantasy stories (I actually believe that Lefty is a monger who has very, very marginal success in the hobby and writes fiction about what he WISHES he had done but can't do) turn on the average guy reading this board. The average guy doesn't post - he lurks and makes up his own mind. The support for the Lefty's of the board is made up of about .05% of everyone who reads the board - if that. But they are the ones who write in and speak up. That's a crying shame.

You aren't a "softie" Carb - you appear to be a person who keeps his head and understands the game.

Now THAT was 2 cents.

ci-traveler

[Ci-Traveler]

Mr. Play 12 with an incredible number of 13 very informative and regular member posts wrote:

"You don't have a clue what you are talking about."

Me: Ok bud. Whatever you say. You're the expert here.

Also:

"The business is money in exchange for sex. I am not a taxi, so no sw is going to try and get over on me. If she doesn't want to do what is requested then she has to leave plain and simple."

Me: Ok bud, whatever you say. You're the expert here.

Seriously though, I would dump the chick too. But I would try to do it in a place that was close to where I picked her up. I certainly wouldn't rejoice in the fact that she is miserable and shivering in a t-shirt. If she hadn't ripped me off, and if money hadn't exchanged hands - the "business" you describe hadn't taken place yet - therefore, no deal. No one has to be an ass about it. BTW - Carb's very reasonable response to my knee jerk reaction was a good one - and it gave clarification to the situation - I appreciate that Carb - thanks. BTW, Play 12 - you say you aren't a taxi, but you go on to say in your post that she could have been warm had a ride to where she needed to go and stayed out of the cold for about 20 minutes of her time. Sounds to me like sometimes you are a taxi - just when it suits you???

Mr. Play 12 with 13 incredible, reliable, helpful, and terrifically uplifiting regular member posts went on to say:

"What are you anyway MR.Super Save A Ho......."

*sigh* Naw - I'm just a person who doesn't believe that you treat others as you were treated (well - sometimes you should treat them that way or worse - but not in this case).

He further went on:

"That is the problem with these sw, they think they are in control, when it's us who is with the money. I don't have to pay for it sex to get laid, I do it just for the fun of it, so it is not a big deal if I don't get none from a sw."

So why act so indignant and get so pissed off about this issue? Sounds like maybe you DO need to pay for it.

And more dribble:

"So like I said in my last post if a sw wants to try and get over on a monger, I think it's the responsibility of another to give it to her so she will remember it."

Well goolllllllyyy - I just have to disagree bro. If she tries but doesn't, just letting her out politely and telling her why will sometimes do the trick. You assume that the negotiation is one sided - and that's a big mistake. It's always a two way street - and it sounds to me like you hadn't closed the deal yet. You assumed since you are the monger that you had the right to call ALL of the shots - and that just aint ever the case bud. I read your post carefully - and you just didn't know how to take no for an answer. She was willing to blow you but not fuck you. You got pissed because she asked for a 15 mile trip, and then you got even more pissed because she didn't want you to do her the way you wanted. Your assumption comes from the fact that she got in your car - period. You never know what the girl is willing to do until you talk with her (which you did). In this case, when you found out she only was willing to do one thing - you deceided to treat her badly. You could have just taken her back and said you changed your mind. Sometimes taking the high road is worth the effort and time.

Finally - the denial and flip flop:

"I didn't say hurt her or anything like that, I would never condone that. So CI next time get your facts straight before you write. Sounds like you the ho to me."

No one said you hurt her. Maybe you need to get YOUR facts straight. Because I didn't say that, I don't know how you can validate the idea that I didn't have my facts straight? You wrote verbatim:

"So then she asks me could I take her someplace else, get this that is right by my spot, so I drove the opposite way and when she still declined to come to my spot, I told her ass to get out. It was funny too because it was pretty cold out by that time, and her dumb ass was in a little t-shirt shivering like crazy. I had to put my foot down, these hoes want you to bend every which way and don't want to do the same. She could have been warm had a ride to where she needed to go and stayed out of the cold for about 20 minutes of her time...Dumb ho..If any of you guys see her give a good anal ramming to teach her a good lesson..not to try and get over on us mongers."

My thoughts: the way I see it bud, you got pissed off at her, drove the opposite direction on purpose to put her out in the cold, and then you brag about being happy about getting her back by watching her shiver. You then express a sentiment that you hope some other person will treat her in a way you know she doesn't want - maybe in a way you are unable to perform - and then claim that you didn't mean anything by it - that you don't condone hurting the ho.

I think everyone who reads your report, my response, and your flip/flop denial will know who the real ho is bud.

ci-traveler