Rants, Raves, and Opinions

[MkeMongrel]

I second that. Well said Italo.

I think you said it all and are spot on right.

[BadAz Mofo]

A girl has to be nuts to post her own face pics.

I wouldn't say she's nuts necessarily, although some nuts do come to mind, Krazy Karen for one. I think back over the years, at least from my perspective, when a provider posts face pics (or uses their real first name) it's usually do to naivety. And that inexperience leads some well meaning girls to be victimized by mongers with stalker tendencies. I can think of quite a few girls who started off showing face pics, used their real first name or their middle name as a first name and eventually had to stop providing because of stalker issues.

Then there are those who simply just don't care, especially on the low end of the spectrum. BP gals like Marissa and Mandy who live in the same house come to mind.

[ItaloSamoa]

Definitely one of the good ones. Prioritize not cancel so maybe I should have worded differently and yes, she's very much both classy and trustworthy neither of which has anything to do with her preferences for who she'll see or prefers to see, IMO.

So, is MF one of the good ones then? Why would I schedule an appointment with someone who you're publicizing as willing to cancel on anyone? That's classy and trustworthy?

[The Wanderer]

The good / best women are...honest, trustworthy and are SO worth the time and effort...(In difficult situations they respond with complete class as well).

The last woman I was with, we'll call her MF, told me as I was kissing her good bye, that any time I call, she'd bump anyone to see me....full of class and trustworthy.

So, is MF one of the good ones then? Why would I schedule an appointment with someone who you're publicizing as willing to cancel on anyone? That's classy and trustworthy?

[Star67]

It's the honor among thieves rule guys and we're ALL taking a risk here to hook up, now aren't we?

SO, this post won't win me many friends here, but it needs to be said.

Of the 2 dozen girls I've dated in just the last 6 months, not one had a fake pic and I could list them all and prove it. Some hid their faces and I have no problem with that as THAT MUCH is completely understandable if they so choose. None had legal troubles any more for their craft than the fakes running specials, ripoffs, scams and more and some probably a lot less because they're both honest and smart.

I'll admit, I'm picky, but I treat women like they deserve to be treated and get rewarded for it with each visit too. I also don't try to haggle with women and tell them they're worth less than they believe they are which in most cases results in a reward with the right women (The honest ones I'm referring to).

To each his own, but I'll walk from a fake that won't admit she's not as publicized and especially any flat out liar. That's the first red flag and the last for me. Maybe if some walked away from the initial red flags, they'd have less bad experiences? I dunno.

The good / best women are rarely cheap to be with, but they're honest, trustworthy and are SO worth the time and effort and when treated well, usually respond in kind. (In difficult situations they respond with complete class as well, but that's another experience and story entirely, Thanks again BDL).

List one higher class woman whom we all know about, who posts fake info and denies it who's had all these imagined problems with the legal system. I can post dozens who have none. WHY can't the perceived lower level women do the same? Is it because they're 50-100 less? Baloney.

The last woman I was with, we'll call her MF, told me as I was kissing her good bye, that any time I call, she'd bump anyone to see me. The rewards outweigh the little benefits you feel you get in haggling or compromising. Not only was she another real and exactly as advertised and more woman, but also full of class and trustworthy.

You guys can certainly all have the same response from women in this hobby if you change your way of thinking about them AND we can all reduce the number of scammers out there.

I don't think I'm special in any way, I just don't treat women with any disrespect and as she and others have expressed to me, that's pretty rare. So I say, a lot of you guys may be missing the opportunity for something better than you imagined things could be in this hobby.

CE, I'm sorry my friend, but what you describe is the rules for "How to deal with scammers".

My rule is simple.

DON'T.

I think you said it all and are spot on right.

[ItaloSamoa]

Yeah, but we're not talking "face pics" We're only talking about "fake pics".

I'd love to throw out a bunch of examples here, and we're basically talking "the cream of the crops" of women not using fake pics, or ancient and unrepresentative pics, who have none of the imagined problems being sold here.

They also have less of the risk or baggage.

To each his own.

A girl has to be nuts to post her own face pics. Somehow when I was checking a girl out before seeing her I stumbled across her real name and learned that she did time for attempted murder (6 years). Her pics were fake but they were close enough. She was a real sweet girl. She did her time.

[ItaloSamoa]

It's the honor among thieves rule guys and we're ALL taking a risk here to hook up, now aren't we?

SO, this post won't win me many friends here, but it needs to be said.

Of the 2 dozen girls I've dated in just the last 6 months, not one had a fake pic and I could list them all and prove it. Some hid their faces and I have no problem with that as THAT MUCH is completely understandable if they so choose. None had legal troubles any more for their craft than the fakes running specials, ripoffs, scams and more and some probably a lot less because they're both honest and smart.

I'll admit, I'm picky, but I treat women like they deserve to be treated and get rewarded for it with each visit too. I also don't try to haggle with women and tell them they're worth less than they believe they are which in most cases results in a reward with the right women (The honest ones I'm referring to).

To each his own, but I'll walk from a fake that won't admit she's not as publicized and especially any flat out liar. That's the first red flag and the last for me. Maybe if some walked away from the initial red flags, they'd have less bad experiences? I dunno.

The good / best women are rarely cheap to be with, but they're honest, trustworthy and are SO worth the time and effort and when treated well, usually respond in kind. (In difficult situations they respond with complete class as well, but that's another experience and story entirely, Thanks again BDL).

List one higher class woman whom we all know about, who posts fake info and denies it who's had all these imagined problems with the legal system. I can post dozens who have none. WHY can't the perceived lower level women do the same? Is it because they're 50-100 less? Baloney.

The last woman I was with, we'll call her MF, told me as I was kissing her good bye, that any time I call, she'd bump anyone to see me. The rewards outweigh the little benefits you feel you get in haggling or compromising. Not only was she another real and exactly as advertised and more woman, but also full of class and trustworthy.

You guys can certainly all have the same response from women in this hobby if you change your way of thinking about them AND we can all reduce the number of scammers out there.

I don't think I'm special in any way, I just don't treat women with any disrespect and as she and others have expressed to me, that's pretty rare. So I say, a lot of you guys may be missing the opportunity for something better than you imagined things could be in this hobby.

CE, I'm sorry my friend, but what you describe is the rules for "How to deal with scammers".

My rule is simple.

DON'T.

Damn guys, let's stop griping about fake pics. It's a fact of life. Learn to live with it. Wanting girls to stop using fake pics is like wanting summers in Wisconsin to stop being humid, winters to be warm, roads to be pothole free and politicians to be honest. Understand that sometimes (rarely) the girl is as hot or hotter than the fake pic. Hell, a girl could use a pic of herself 10 years and 25 lbs ago: it's not fake, but it's not accurate either. It's easy to deal with:

1. Tell the girl while making the appointment. If the pic is fake and you're not hot, I'm walking.

2. Leave your money (all of it) in the car.

3. If the pic is fake and the girl is hot, get your cash and fuck her.

4. If the pic is fake and you don't care whether she's hot or not, get your cash and fuck her.

5. If the pic is fake and she's not hot, either bargain her down or leave.

6. If the pic is fake and she's ugly as mortal sin or as big as your ex-wife's mother, leave.

This is super simple guys. As I've said before, I've posted ads for girls and used fake pics. I understand why they do it. Both girls I posted for were as hot or hotter than the pics. The last provider I was with used fake pics and guys, there aren't any pics on the net that do this babe justice. Super thin, beautiful black babe with HUGE natural hooters who is a sexual dynamo. Did I give a flying fuck at a rolling donut that her pics were fake?

You be the judge.

Coochie (Don't give a fuck if the pics are fake) Eater.

Even though I'm one of the newest Seniors here I agree 100%. I never expect the pics to be real. Some of these providers still have families that could see them, why give LEO extra ammo, they know we guys think with our little heads more often than our big heads and we're more likely to call with hot pics. Very little incentive to use real pics. I've reviewed 4 providers in the last few weeks, only one used 100% real pics and as I indicated with them, they understand camera angles very well and used them to hide enormous guts. I never, ever walk in expecting to find the girl in the images.

I just hope they are closer than my very first BP experience, before I was a member here, in which I arranged an incall with a buxom 23 year old white blonde and a mid twenties AA provider showed up. She was still pretty hot so I let her in and foolishly paid up front only to get a long list of "I don't do that" and ended up paying $.5 for a 15 minute HJ. Live and learn and follow Coochie's lead.

[Howard5354]

Even though I'm one of the newest Seniors here I agree 100%. I never expect the pics to be real. Some of these providers still have families that could see them, why give LEO extra ammo, they know we guys think with our little heads more often than our big heads and we're more likely to call with hot pics. Very little incentive to use real pics. I've reviewed 4 providers in the last few weeks, only one used 100% real pics and as I indicated with them, they understand camera angles very well and used them to hide enormous guts. I never, ever walk in expecting to find the girl in the images.

I just hope they are closer than my very first BP experience, before I was a member here, in which I arranged an incall with a buxom 23 year old white blonde and a mid twenties AA provider showed up. She was still pretty hot so I let her in and foolishly paid up front only to get a long list of "I don't do that" and ended up paying $.5 for a 15 minute HJ. Live and learn and follow Coochie's lead.

A girl has to be nuts to post her own face pics. Somehow when I was checking a girl out before seeing her I stumbled across her real name and learned that she did time for attempted murder (6 years). Her pics were fake but they were close enough. She was a real sweet girl. She did her time.

[ScooterAllCity]

Personally I hold the honest girls in much higher regard and am 10 x more likely to see them again based on these impressions.

I'm the same way regarding that. It's much easier and probably safer also to be with someone you trust.

[Member #4705]

Damn guys, let's stop griping about fake pics. It's a fact of life. Learn to live with it. Wanting girls to stop using fake pics is like wanting summers in Wisconsin to stop being humid, winters to be warm, roads to be pothole free and politicians to be honest. Understand that sometimes (rarely) the girl is as hot or hotter than the fake pic. Hell, a girl could use a pic of herself 10 years and 25 lbs ago: it's not fake, but it's not accurate either. It's easy to deal with:

1. Tell the girl while making the appointment. If the pic is fake and you're not hot, I'm walking.

2. Leave your money (all of it) in the car.

3. If the pic is fake and the girl is hot, get your cash and fuck her.

4. If the pic is fake and you don't care whether she's hot or not, get your cash and fuck her.

5. If the pic is fake and she's not hot, either bargain her down or leave.

6. If the pic is fake and she's ugly as mortal sin or as big as your ex-wife's mother, leave.

This is super simple guys. As I've said before, I've posted ads for girls and used fake pics. I understand why they do it. Both girls I posted for were as hot or hotter than the pics. The last provider I was with used fake pics and guys, there aren't any pics on the net that do this babe justice. Super thin, beautiful black babe with HUGE natural hooters who is a sexual dynamo. Did I give a flying fuck at a rolling donut that her pics were fake?

You be the judge.

Coochie (Don't give a fuck if the pics are fake) Eater.

Even though I'm one of the newest Seniors here I agree 100%. I never expect the pics to be real. Some of these providers still have families that could see them, why give LEO extra ammo, they know we guys think with our little heads more often than our big heads and we're more likely to call with hot pics. Very little incentive to use real pics. I've reviewed 4 providers in the last few weeks, only one used 100% real pics and as I indicated with them, they understand camera angles very well and used them to hide enormous guts. I never, ever walk in expecting to find the girl in the images.

I just hope they are closer than my very first BP experience, before I was a member here, in which I arranged an incall with a buxom 23 year old white blonde and a mid twenties AA provider showed up. She was still pretty hot so I let her in and foolishly paid up front only to get a long list of "I don't do that" and ended up paying $.5 for a 15 minute HJ. Live and learn and follow Coochie's lead.

[Coochie Eater]

Damn guys, let's stop griping about fake pics. It's a fact of life. Learn to live with it. Wanting girls to stop using fake pics is like wanting summers in Wisconsin to stop being humid, winters to be warm, roads to be pothole free and politicians to be honest. Understand that sometimes (rarely) the girl is as hot or hotter than the fake pic. Hell, a girl could use a pic of herself 10 years and 25 lbs ago: it's not fake, but it's not accurate either. It's easy to deal with:

1. Tell the girl while making the appointment. If the pic is fake and you're not hot, I'm walking.

2. Leave your money (all of it) in the car.

3. If the pic is fake and the girl is hot, get your cash and fuck her.

4. If the pic is fake and you don't care whether she's hot or not, get your cash and fuck her.

5. If the pic is fake and she's not hot, either bargain her down or leave.

6. If the pic is fake and she's ugly as mortal sin or as big as your ex-wife's mother, leave.

This is super simple guys. As I've said before, I've posted ads for girls and used fake pics. I understand why they do it. Both girls I posted for were as hot or hotter than the pics. The last provider I was with used fake pics and guys, there aren't any pics on the net that do this babe justice. Super thin, beautiful black babe with HUGE natural hooters who is a sexual dynamo. Did I give a flying fuck at a rolling donut that her pics were fake?

You be the judge.

Coochie (Don't give a fuck if the pics are fake) Eater.

[ItaloSamoa]

The late for the appointment rule I've broken, even though I hate it when it happens. The fake pics I would only break if the girl turns out to be smokin hot, or admits up front these are not her pics but a representation of her looks and body type.

Either way, it's not a good way to start off a meeting and set the mood for a bad encounter.

Personally I hold the honest girls in much higher regard and am 10 x more likely to see them again based on these impressions.

We may be getting off topic for the ripoff forum, but I think if more guys would cancel appointments when providers are late the girls might be forced to change their habits. I know it will never change for the high volume providers. And, it's easier said then done if a guy has popped a viagra for a date or doesn't have a back up plan.

The late for appointment problem is a lot like the fake picture problem. If guys would walk when the girl they meet is totally different than the girl in the pics maybe girls would stop using fake pics.

[LetHerGo]

I did't understand a thing that he said. Never understood the issue or why he can't or won't identify the provider. Pictures are no help especially when we all know that 80% of them are fake to begin with...

Well until you get robbed of money you won't understand an issue. LOL. At some point you will then you will have an issuem. I hold myself to different standards*than some people. Admins posted my posting of her website in BP section look there. And Scooter is %100 right I am not into ghetto showers he seemed to have understood my posting correctly and just fine. If you don't understand something I said ask. Don't be so gruff. I make a lot of spelling mistakes since I usaully so my posting quickly on my phone when I have time. But anybody should be able to piece together the idea very easily.

[LetHerGo]

Sounds like she wanted to take a ghetto bath or shower.A bar of soap and a can of body spray or deodorant. It would help though if you could really understand what others post sometime.

Yes you are exactly right like I said I could get into super specific detaila on how it all went down. The whole thing being she forgot her purse on the way there yet she was talking to me on her cellphone when she was already late and dind't get back to me for over an hour. Ahe got there and didn't park where I told her she sais her gf is waiting in the lot for her in a different direction than where she qas walking from. Red flag two I should have told her to introduce me to her friend which ended up being a black pimp parked out front waiting for her. She came in and damanded the money first I said that is not how I do it but I would put the money in front of her where she could see it. Mistake number 3. I had a girl try to run out wirh money along time ago when I did that but I didn't let her so I didn't technically get robbed. Couldn't post her since her CL posting was flagged.

After she saw the money on the table she went pee thencame back out in the livgimg rolm and started spraying all this body spray around her waste and said she didn't have to do that. Went to the bedroom she took off hwr clothes then said she needed a towel to wash herself real quick. Ok remember everyone has there own things. Some may accept that I simply don't. Have your shit clean when getting here. Nasty to me and unacceptable. I then said this isn't going to work and she instantly made beeline for the livig room after getting her clothes back om grabbed the cash and pulled out a taser. That is what happened. I never threatend her let her take it she ran down the back stair well I got imy car to meet her in the back parking lot to see where she was going and some black dude came walking down the street to meet her then he went and got the black Charger or Challenger picked her up and was gone. That is the juice of the story. I got his plate incase I got help here. Hee pics in the posting seem to be her but can't see the face. So that's he story guys. I let my gaurd down and got robbed. I would have offered her $20 for her time not a lot but you don't pull what you pulled. Obviously like someone else stated she has got to come out with money for that pimp. If you know her Guy then well she fucking owes me 150.

[Lonelyguy128]

I agree with you there LG. An appointment is an appointment and both parties should honor the meet and greet time. Of course things may come up and then a phone call should be placed to the other party. But this is way to common of a thing to be extremely late for a date. I for one will not wait more than 20 minutes for a provider after our agreed time is not met. I'm fortunate now that I have a few regulars that I see and they know how the program works with me. It seems that CPT.

(Colored People Time) is way of life with way too many working girls now and in the past. And it was black girl who told me the CPT name many years back. And it sure fits.

We may be getting off topic for the ripoff forum, but I think if more guys would cancel appointments when providers are late the girls might be forced to change their habits. I know it will never change for the high volume providers. And, it's easier said then done if a guy has popped a viagra for a date or doesn't have a back up plan.

The late for appointment problem is a lot like the fake picture problem. If guys would walk when the girl they meet is totally different than the girl in the pics maybe girls would stop using fake pics.