Rants, Raves, and Opinions

[Ps1999]

Can't be the only one that's noticed this, but anyone else want some objectivity in reviews? Like sometimes I see a review that's just glowing about a provider only to later find out that she is actually overweight, giant scars, stretch marks, or a drug addict, etc. I get that to each their own, but isn't this stuff that's worth mentioning? I mean, great if she gives great head, but isn't it also relevant if she smells like garbage or there was a guy hiding in the bathroom? Sometimes these reviews look like paid advertisements or I'm wondering if the person reviewing has the right glasses. Not all, but some of these posts read like the woman behind the door is going to be a supermodel or something. Like cmon. Again, I get to each their own, no issue with that. Just want people to be a little more realistic and forthcoming.

And why is it that people feel the need to say PM me if you want to meet this provider (who posts ads on other sites)? Why not just post the ad or contact info in your post? Don't get why someone has to go through you for the info? I'm not talking about UTRs or anything, I'm talking about girls who literally post ads on other sites with their number / contact info on the ad and everything.

It's also weird how sometimes members here will post, "Provider X is available today for incall". It's like, can she not make an ad herself? Are you her pimp or something? LOL.

And is it so hard to post the ad or website of the provider you're reviewing for contact info? They're like 5 leahs, kendalls, and jaimies LOL.

Note: This is just a rant. Please don't get butthurt and reply or PM me arguing.

I understand your rant, and I'm good with it. The report I had of Carmen I did 2 things wrong. I didn't mention the baby damage, I didn't even think about it when I posted (Mi bad) I didn't do it to try and slide one by ya guys. Second thing was a link. I normarly would copy and paste one. Didn't even think about it at the time.

I've read plenty of reviews and then seen them and thought to myself "clearly all that dudes taste is in his mouth". I try to be objective when I post a report, but I have my own opinions on what I'm looking for out of my date. If those get met I'm going to give a good report. If someone else sees her and its not what they expected, sorry to hear that. I look on the other site and very few are consistantly great. My atf's reviews are all over the place but every time I saw her it was great (save a couple).

I'm not arguing with you on anything you stated. I understand if I leave feeling like I had a great time I'm going to leave a glowing report, and yes its been a while since I had my eyes checked. I'm over due for new glasses.

[WizardOfAahs]

Can't be the only one that's noticed this, but anyone else want some objectivity in reviews? Like sometimes I see a review that's just glowing about a provider only to later find out that she is actually overweight, giant scars, stretch marks, or a drug addict, etc. I get that to each their own, but isn't this stuff that's worth mentioning? I mean, great if she gives great head, but isn't it also relevant if she smells like garbage or there was a guy hiding in the bathroom? Sometimes these reviews look like paid advertisements or I'm wondering if the person reviewing has the right glasses. Not all, but some of these posts read like the woman behind the door is going to be a supermodel or something. Like cmon. Again, I get to each their own, no issue with that. Just want people to be a little more realistic and forthcoming.

And why is it that people feel the need to say PM me if you want to meet this provider (who posts ads on other sites)? Why not just post the ad or contact info in your post? Don't get why someone has to go through you for the info? I'm not talking about UTRs or anything, I'm talking about girls who literally post ads on other sites with their number / contact info on the ad and everything.

It's also weird how sometimes members here will post, "Provider X is available today for incall". It's like, can she not make an ad herself? Are you her pimp or something? LOL.

And is it so hard to post the ad or website of the provider you're reviewing for contact info? They're like 5 leahs, kendalls, and jaimies LOL.

Note: This is just a rant. Please don't get butthurt and reply or PM me arguing.

1. I haven't been surprised at all with the girls I've seen based on information here. One thing I've learned is that people have their preferences and their own styles- I know OFG and I rate girls pretty much on the same scale; if he is willing to bring her back for seconds she is worth me cooking for. Some have different desires, and I may like what they do not. It's kinda like sports announcers; in that some people actually like Joe Buck calling the Packer games.

2. Well if there ad is on another site, feel free to use it. Some girls just may have multiple numbers (eg Ari / Leah18), one of which is public info and the other not so much. If the rates are lower or prioritized or more trusted when the "less known" number is used is another story.

3. Sometimes girls don't want to post a public ad as they only want to deal with regulars or known community members.

4. That can be frustrating. I refer to the Leahs as Leah18, Leah22, and Leah25; based on their age when they all appeared 3 years ago. Leah18 is pushing 21 now and was Ari. Leah 22 is known as East Side Leah. Never dabbled with Leah25.

[TheCondor7]

Can't be the only one that's noticed this, but anyone else want some objectivity in reviews? Like sometimes I see a review that's just glowing about a provider only to later find out that she is actually overweight, giant scars, stretch marks, or a drug addict, etc. I get that to each their own, but isn't this stuff that's worth mentioning? I mean, great if she gives great head, but isn't it also relevant if she smells like garbage or there was a guy hiding in the bathroom? Sometimes these reviews look like paid advertisements or I'm wondering if the person reviewing has the right glasses. Not all, but some of these posts read like the woman behind the door is going to be a supermodel or something. Like cmon. Again, I get to each their own, no issue with that. Just want people to be a little more realistic and forthcoming.

And why is it that people feel the need to say PM me if you want to meet this provider (who posts ads on other sites)? Why not just post the ad or contact info in your post? Don't get why someone has to go through you for the info? I'm not talking about UTRs or anything, I'm talking about girls who literally post ads on other sites with their number / contact info on the ad and everything.

It's also weird how sometimes members here will post, "Provider X is available today for incall". It's like, can she not make an ad herself? Are you her pimp or something? LOL.

And is it so hard to post the ad or website of the provider you're reviewing for contact info? They're like 5 leahs, kendalls, and jaimies LOL.

Note: This is just a rant. Please don't get butthurt and reply or PM me arguing.

[LuvSitTight]

You're not in Orlando any more, Toto. Similar to your conversations on the Madison thread, you need to accept the reality of where you are now. It's partially a matter of being in a huge enforcement period that started last summer and still continues. Saturation patrols, LEO on bicycles that can cover a lot of ground quickly and quietly. The Milwaukee areas, on the South side anyway, are pretty small, send 2 cops over to just park on the side of the road for an hour, one between 11th and 14th on Greenfield and another between 20th and 25th and everything grinds to a stop. Most of those that were around a year or two ago are in jail, rehab or laying low, seeing only regulars. A few, sadly, are dead. Again, this isn't Orlando. The numbers are small and LEO knows them all, making it easy to target them.

I've been doing this for 25 years and don't recall a time it was ever 10/20. For a long time it was 20/40 and you can still find that at times, but the expectations have gone up for many to 20/40 plus a tip and today I many just expect the tip and ask 30/50. The habits most carry drive that. Boy is 20 a package and Girl can be had for 10. They get 30 from you they can score both. With a tip they can get a pack of smokes and a bag of chips too. That'll get them through the next 4-6 hours until they need to do it again. If they can get 50-60 for FS, it holds them for 8-12 hours. That's the economics of someone on the streets in Milwaukee. Oh, bet we can find you a 10 BBBJ or 20 FS, but be ready for her to be 250 lbs, have horrid hygiene and lackluster service to boot. When you've only got 10 or 15 ladies working the South Loops with any regularity, most of whom I wouldn't fuck with your dick, it's a sellers market..

Superbly stated my man! You'd make an excellent Chamber of Commerce for the Wisconsin hobby.

[HuntingStreets]

IFrom what I'm reading what your paying a street walker is way to much. I seen up to a 100 bucks. I wouldn't even pay someone off back page / Craigslist that much.

I came up out of Orlando and never paid more then 20 to get laid. 10 for a BJ. Normally was no problem finding someone. They were not super models but still got the job done.

You're not in Orlando any more, Toto. Similar to your conversations on the Madison thread, you need to accept the reality of where you are now. It's partially a matter of being in a huge enforcement period that started last summer and still continues. Saturation patrols, LEO on bicycles that can cover a lot of ground quickly and quietly. The Milwaukee areas, on the South side anyway, are pretty small, send 2 cops over to just park on the side of the road for an hour, one between 11th and 14th on Greenfield and another between 20th and 25th and everything grinds to a stop. Most of those that were around a year or two ago are in jail, rehab or laying low, seeing only regulars. A few, sadly, are dead. Again, this isn't Orlando. The numbers are small and LEO knows them all, making it easy to target them.

I've been doing this for 25 years and don't recall a time it was ever 10/20. For a long time it was 20/40 and you can still find that at times, but the expectations have gone up for many to 20/40 plus a tip and today I many just expect the tip and ask 30/50. The habits most carry drive that. Boy is 20 a package and Girl can be had for 10. They get 30 from you they can score both. With a tip they can get a pack of smokes and a bag of chips too. That'll get them through the next 4-6 hours until they need to do it again. If they can get 50-60 for FS, it holds them for 8-12 hours. That's the economics of someone on the streets in Milwaukee. Oh, bet we can find you a 10 BBBJ or 20 FS, but be ready for her to be 250 lbs, have horrid hygiene and lackluster service to boot. When you've only got 10 or 15 ladies working the South Loops with any regularity, most of whom I wouldn't fuck with your dick, it's a sellers market.

Just accept the fact that you're not in warm, sunny Orlando with plenty of supply; you're in Conservative WI with a limited supply, people that aren't afraid to complain to their aldermen, Alderman that aren't afraid to pressure the LEO and a PD moving toward community policing and believing that the way to stop large crime is cracking down on small crime to make the community more attractive. Welcome to the MidWest bro.

[Cyngen]

IFrom what I'm reading what your paying a street walker is way to much. I seen up to a 100 bucks. I wouldn't even pay someone off back page / Craigslist that much.

I came up out of Orlando and never paid more then 20 to get laid. 10 for a BJ. Normally was no problem finding someone. They were not super models but still got the job done.

[LuvSitTight]

When ever I've gotten a referral to see someone, I've felt that its to your advantage not to reveal the price point to the provider. I don't even say who the referral is from, unless they specidically ask. It makes sense that she will try to get the highest bid for her services. So. She quotes you 150, and you know she'll do 80, don't let her know that you know that. You just busted your negotiation. Haggle a little, and see if you can talk her down. She knows she'll take 80 if push comes to shove. Maybe you end up at 100, because her cicumstances are different than the day she took 80. Or because you haven't seen her 5 times like the other guy. Plus. If you strong arm the negotiation down to her lowest price, how likely is it that the service will even be good. When I agree to a bargain priced deal in my business, I'm a little salty when doing the work. I just want to get it done and over.

You stated it perfectly; the art of negotiation. You know what her lowest price point is and you get as close to that as you can. But the LOWEST price might be for the monger who's seeing her once or twice a week. But don't burn the bridge of the monger who was kind enough to give you that info.

[Member #5994]

When ever I've gotten a referral to see someone, I've felt that its to your advantage not to reveal the price point to the provider. I don't even say who the referral is from, unless they specidically ask. It makes sense that she will try to get the highest bid for her services. So. She quotes you 150, and you know she'll do 80, don't let her know that you know that. You just busted your negotiation. Haggle a little, and see if you can talk her down. She knows she'll take 80 if push comes to shove. Maybe you end up at 100, because her cicumstances are different than the day she took 80. Or because you haven't seen her 5 times like the other guy. Plus. If you strong arm the negotiation down to her lowest price, how likely is it that the service will even be good. When I agree to a bargain priced deal in my business, I'm a little salty when doing the work. I just want to get it done and over.

I love giving referrals! Sometimes I will send numbers to seniors without being asked. I just got one of those myself! Thanks!

Invariably, I will be asked "How much?" or "Damage?" or some such thing.

I had a great relationship with a wonderful provider that was always very kind to me in the wallet. I gave out her number and what she charged me. HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE BED! Was she angry! Started charging me regular prices after a cooling off period where she wouldn't see me at all. She didn't like me "controlling" her business.

So when I give out a number, I will not give out what I was charged. Just knowing that the provider is capable of more than lackluster performances has to be worth something. You are big boys, negotiate your own deals.

Coochie (will not spoil a good thing) Eater.

God Bless You All.

P.S. I realize that if you call a girl up and say "Coochie gave me your number and he said you were GREAT!" she's going to start bargaining from the stance that she's worth more. If you call a girl up and say "Coochie gave me your number and said that you weren't too bad, and it wouldn't be a waste of my time to try you. " she's not in a position to start asking for a lot. So lets use our heads. Oh, and please don't call one of my referrals up and say "Coochie gave me your number and said fucking you was better than fucking a pile of shit, but only just. " There's a limit to this negotiating thing.

[GPSlikesy]

I totaly agree. Just from my post the other day, not all pm's but alot asking damages. I don't mean to sound like a dick but you got a mouth use it. Ask her she will tell you, if you don't like what she tells you don't see her. I don't want some guy ruining my thing. If its someone I've delt with on this board and I know your not going to sink my boat ill tell ya. Use your head. On a different note. When someone posts digits for contributors it means you contribute to this board. Either through reports on women or worthwhile info about the hobby. Sorry to judge but if that's all your doing is asking for a hand out your coming to the wrong guy. Homey don't play that.

P.S.

Fellas, Its a private message for a reason!!

[Trogon]

I love giving referrals! Sometimes I will send numbers to seniors without being asked. I just got one of those myself! Thanks!

Invariably, I will be asked "How much?" or "Damage?" or some such thing.

I had a great relationship with a wonderful provider that was always very kind to me in the wallet. I gave out her number and what she charged me. HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE BED! Was she angry! Started charging me regular prices after a cooling off period where she wouldn't see me at all. She didn't like me "controlling" her business.

So when I give out a number, I will not give out what I was charged. Just knowing that the provider is capable of more than lackluster performances has to be worth something. You are big boys, negotiate your own deals.

Coochie (will not spoil a good thing) Eater.

God Bless You All.

P.S. I realize that if you call a girl up and say "Coochie gave me your number and he said you were GREAT!" she's going to start bargaining from the stance that she's worth more. If you call a girl up and say "Coochie gave me your number and said that you weren't too bad, and it wouldn't be a waste of my time to try you. " she's not in a position to start asking for a lot. So lets use our heads. Oh, and please don't call one of my referrals up and say "Coochie gave me your number and said fucking you was better than fucking a pile of shit, but only just. " There's a limit to this negotiating thing.

Great lesson. And great points.

[Ps1999]

I love giving referrals! Sometimes I will send numbers to seniors without being asked. I just got one of those myself! Thanks!

Invariably, I will be asked "How much?" or "Damage?" or some such thing.

I had a great relationship with a wonderful provider that was always very kind to me in the wallet. I gave out her number and what she charged me. HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE BED! Was she angry! Started charging me regular prices after a cooling off period where she wouldn't see me at all. She didn't like me "controlling" her business.

So when I give out a number, I will not give out what I was charged. Just knowing that the provider is capable of more than lackluster performances has to be worth something. You are big boys, negotiate your own deals.

Coochie (will not spoil a good thing) Eater.

God Bless You All.

P.S. I realize that if you call a girl up and say "Coochie gave me your number and he said you were GREAT!" she's going to start bargaining from the stance that she's worth more. If you call a girl up and say "Coochie gave me your number and said that you weren't too bad, and it wouldn't be a waste of my time to try you. " she's not in a position to start asking for a lot. So lets use our heads. Oh, and please don't call one of my referrals up and say "Coochie gave me your number and said fucking you was better than fucking a pile of shit, but only just. " There's a limit to this negotiating thing.

I totaly agree. Just from my post the other day, not all pm's but alot asking damages. I don't mean to sound like a dick but you got a mouth use it. Ask her she will tell you, if you don't like what she tells you don't see her. I don't want some guy ruining my thing. If its someone I've delt with on this board and I know your not going to sink my boat ill tell ya. Use your head. On a different note. When someone posts digits for contributors it means you contribute to this board. Either through reports on women or worthwhile info about the hobby. Sorry to judge but if that's all your doing is asking for a hand out your coming to the wrong guy. Homey don't play that.

P.S.

[Coochie Eater]

I love giving referrals! Sometimes I will send numbers to seniors without being asked. I just got one of those myself! Thanks!

Invariably, I will be asked "How much?" or "Damage?" or some such thing.

I had a great relationship with a wonderful provider that was always very kind to me in the wallet. I gave out her number and what she charged me. HOLY FUCKING SHIT THE BED! Was she angry! Started charging me regular prices after a cooling off period where she wouldn't see me at all. She didn't like me "controlling" her business.

So when I give out a number, I will not give out what I was charged. Just knowing that the provider is capable of more than lackluster performances has to be worth something. You are big boys, negotiate your own deals.

Coochie (will not spoil a good thing) Eater.

God Bless You All.

P.S. I realize that if you call a girl up and say "Coochie gave me your number and he said you were GREAT!" she's going to start bargaining from the stance that she's worth more. If you call a girl up and say "Coochie gave me your number and said that you weren't too bad, and it wouldn't be a waste of my time to try you. " she's not in a position to start asking for a lot. So lets use our heads. Oh, and please don't call one of my referrals up and say "Coochie gave me your number and said fucking you was better than fucking a pile of shit, but only just. " There's a limit to this negotiating thing.

[Slick Banister]

I thought I'd be smart and save some time by drafting a txt to a gal I want to see while on a business trip in a couple weeks. Great, I can reread it and make changes to give the best impression possible, AND I can schedule the delivery time of it. (That way I can't become too busy or distracted by the need to send it).

But then when I was supposed to hit save, I hit send and made contact rediculous early. FML.


PS. I would like to send a txt explaining all this, but know it's just be digging the hole deeper.

[Coochie Eater]

Wow. Two out of five ain't bad, right? Or should I say: 2 otta fyv not bad, ryt?

Is that some kind of vagina? A squirter maybe? What with the lake and all. Someone TOFTT please.

Reminds me of the old Winston cigarette conundrum: What do you want? Good grammar or good taste?

Coochie (Fuck me, I'm old enough to remember cigarette advertising on TV) Eater.

God bless you all.

[Ben Spend]

I don't have as much time in the hobby as alot of guys, and I've only been HERE for around a year. I've gotten alot of good avice and read some great stories of the hobby and what's entailed. I've been having a problem (my opinion only).

Growing up my Dad tought me right and wrong, and I made the choices, decisions right or wrong. Trust me when I say this I've made alot of of bad bad choices in my life. When I would have to tell him of the problems / trouble I got into when I was younger it was an ass whooping then a talk of the mistakes hes made. Later on in life I got alot bigger than him ass whoopings wernt going to work. He basicaly gave me enough rope to get hurt, not hung.

Which leads me to this. He always stayed busy, even in his 20 plus of retirement. As he neared the end he Never expressed regret for how he lived his life. He made plenty of mistakes, got into trouble himself but knew it was his life and choices. The thing I really admired was that he never preached to me or anyone else when he saw us making bad choices. Might have tried to point us a different direction but never preched.

I'm just saying.

P.S.

There is a saying "you always have to follow your own path". Everyone learns from their mistakes. If we don't make mistakes it means we're dead. Carry on bro!