The Woodshed

[Snpddy]

You know everytime ya give a ride to one they tell you a story or two. Yet I guess sometimes they tell the truth. Not going to get into details. So I'm at the site, doing the usual duties, then get up to take a leak. Run into her. I'm like nah. That can't be so.
Then taking a little smoke break there she go again. Granted the site has mask required. Yet I just had a hunch, so I walked by took a good look at her. Yep most definitely her, and what she told me matches up to what she was doing there LOL. She has a feature that is hard to miss. O

Doubt she recognized me, (or wishful thinking) bc I make certain I look worlds apart on the hunt, then how I look on the regular. Even use a "town" car. Plus with the mask it should be hard to tell. Hopefully. Man all day had me thinking of scenarios. I'm glad it was a SW and not a provider though. Obvious reasons LOL.

Tf you talkin about Willis? Are we to read between the lines. Lmao.

[NeckAuthority]

You know everytime ya give a ride to one they tell you a story or two. Yet I guess sometimes they tell the truth. Not going to get into details. So I'm at the site, doing the usual duties, then get up to take a leak. Run into her. I'm like nah. That can't be so.
Then taking a little smoke break there she go again. Granted the site has mask required. Yet I just had a hunch, so I walked by took a good look at her. Yep most definitely her, and what she told me matches up to what she was doing there LOL. She has a feature that is hard to miss.

Doubt she recognized me, (or wishful thinking) bc I make certain I look worlds apart on the hunt, then how I look on the regular. Even use a "town" car. Plus with the mask it should be hard to tell. Hopefully. Man all day had me thinking of scenarios. I'm glad it was a SW and not a provider though. Obvious reasons LOL.

[FreeBallin]

I will get chastised for this but I just don't care about the virus. I live under the guise that we will all get it, just when and how severe are the open questions. I don't wear a mask unless it is mandatory and have done everything with the exception of licking doorknobs and have been okay so far. Am I living on borrowed time? Quite possibly but I sure the fuck am not going to hide in my house for 2 years while they work on a possible vaccine.

People keep grinding the stats into dust but you are still sitting at home and wearing masks so from my perspective the data is just a political tool used by both sides so they have something to point fingers at and try to place blame.

Do our best to protect the elderly/vulnerable and move on with life. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to stop the deaths possibly including my own if it takes me out. Morbid? Yes, but open and honest.

Well stated and I am of the same opinion.

[OnTime877]

I'm not hiding in the house either. I've gone on with life but still take reasonable precautions. There are middle grounds between between hiding in fear and caution to the wind.

[ZoomLens2013]

I will get chastised for this but I just don't care about the virus. I live under the guise that we will all get it, just when and how severe are the open questions. I don't wear a mask unless it is mandatory and have done everything with the exception of licking doorknobs and have been okay so far. Am I living on borrowed time? Quite possibly but I sure the fuck am not going to hide in my house for 2 years while they work on a possible vaccine.

People keep grinding the stats into dust but you are still sitting at home and wearing masks so from my perspective the data is just a political tool used by both sides so they have something to point fingers at and try to place blame.

Do our best to protect the elderly/vulnerable and move on with life. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to stop the deaths possibly including my own if it takes me out. Morbid? Yes, but open and honest.

Yep, this is basically where I'm at with the whole thing.

[Red Talon]

I will get chastised for this but I just don't care about the virus. I live under the guise that we will all get it, just when and how severe are the open questions. I don't wear a mask unless it is mandatory and have done everything with the exception of licking doorknobs and have been okay so far. Am I living on borrowed time? Quite possibly but I sure the fuck am not going to hide in my house for 2 years while they work on a possible vaccine.

People keep grinding the stats into dust but you are still sitting at home and wearing masks so from my perspective the data is just a political tool used by both sides so they have something to point fingers at and try to place blame.

Do our best to protect the elderly/vulnerable and move on with life. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to stop the deaths possibly including my own if it takes me out. Morbid? Yes, but open and honest.

[TallBear]

Performing trend analysis on a day by day basis is a fool's errand, guys. You simply cannot extrapolate any meaningful firm conclusions about infection patterns or fatality rates from the available datasets. Too much remains unknown & public policies based on denial & wishful thinking are not helping the situation. Neither viruses nor science care what you believe. And that includes where you get your news.

Nothwithstanding my own centrist political inclinations, I am a research scientist & getting my information from epidemiologists & other medical professionals, not from MSM & certainly not from social media or fucking Fox. I probably should leave it at that.

[OnTime877]

Most people either listen to left leaning or conservative leaning networks. Both have agendas which involve telling half-truths. The big spike in cases in the states isn't all about increased testing because hospitalization rates are going up considerably nationally as of late. More people are getting sick irrespective of testing.

https://covidtracking.com/data

Yes death rates are down nationally, but they are up and to a significant degree as of late in at least three states, Arizona, Florida, and Texas. Also we will know more soon as to the outcomes of recent spikes in cases in these and other areas. It takes time for the stricken to die. Also hospitalization rates are spiking in Arizona and Texas. They probably are in Florida as well, but reporting on this has been inconsistent over the last three months. In any case these increased hospital rates undermines any claim that the spikes in cases in these states are due to increased testing. Check the graphs.

https://covidtracking.com/data/state/arizona

https://covidtracking.com/data/state/florida

https://covidtracking.com/data/state/texas

Also confirmed cases and death rates are spiking in many Latin American countries. Have a look around. Click on the county of your choice, scroll down and check the graphs. Brazil, Colombia, and Argentina would be good places to start.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries.

Lastly it's not just about life and death. Not only is getting sick as hell no fun, but there is evidence that Covid-19 causes lasting, serious medical conditions in survivors. All in all, be careful out there gentlemen.

https://www.advisory.com/daily-brief...health-effects

[Powerhouse100]

The CDC released the new IFR (Infectious Fatality Rate) almost two months ago and overall it's. 26% that's it. 26% it's right here on the graph. And deaths are down, they have been steadily decreasing over the last three months. There is no question of that. You can believe whatever you wish but you have no facts. I know you're going to want to keep fighting about this because that's what you like.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

My personal feelings is that we shouldn't shut down the country because of this pandemic but people should be mandated to at least wear masks in public and at work if they deal with the public. I mean, if healthcare workers have to go to work, it would appear everyone else should also. If masks aren't really effective, then healthcare workers should stay home too and we know how that would go.

[Admin2]

You really should expand your information sources; Deaths absolutely HAVE increased, and the percentage of deaths associated with Covid-19 is nearly 5%. The facts are readily available.

The CDC released the new IFR (Infectious Fatality Rate) almost two months ago and overall it's. 26% that's it. 26% it's right here on the graph. And deaths are down, they have been steadily decreasing over the last three months. There is no question of that. You can believe whatever you wish but you have no facts. I know you're going to want to keep fighting about this because that's what you like.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

[ToBeOrNot]

There has been a drastic increase in testing is why there are more reported cases. Make sense? Most people have no symptoms and if there was no testng then they would go unnoticed. Also, the number of deaths have not increased, but the lamestream media doesn't want to report the good news because they want you to live in fear. There has to be more exposure if we are to achieve herd immunity. The survival rate is nearly 99 percent.

To achieve herd immunity an estimated 94% of the population to be not be able to transmit the disease. That's assuming people can't get re-infected of course (that's not know with this yet). Population of the USA is just over 328 million, 94% of that is a little over 308 million so we just have to let over 3 million people die to achieve that.

Cases are down in New York, and they're testing more than anywhere else. Maybe we can't just jump to the conclusion that more testing is causing the number of cases to go up. Percentage of positive tests and hospitalization rates are also metrics used. Both of those are also spiking in the new hots spots. The governors in Arizona, California and Texas are all slowing down or even reversing re-opening plans and mandating masks. They're reluctantly paying attention to the number not the media. And that's been the problem with the USA's response, it has been all reaction if at all and nothing proactive. Science is not our enemy. Incompetent leadership in a crisis is.

Death rate (not deaths) are not increasing because the latest spikes in cases are primarily among younger people and the medical community has been improving their treatments not because there are fewer cases. The good news will be when we catch up with Italy. Holy shit that's a good model compared to the USA now, hell it is hard to find a worse example, although I imagine India is going to lose millions by the time this is done, they've just started and have no where near the capacity to deal with a wide spread pandemic like this.

[JackPacino]

There has been a drastic increase in testing is why there are more reported cases. Make sense? Most people have no symptoms and if there was no testng then they would go unnoticed. Also, the number of deaths have not increased, but the lamestream media doesn't want to report the good news because they want you to live in fear. There has to be more exposure if we are to achieve herd immunity. The survival rate is nearly 99 percent.

Yup, I'm aware of that. Regardless, from my own point of view, I personally knew of no one that had Covid and knew of no one that knew someone that had it. However, since 'opening up' everything, that has changed. Again, from my own personal knowledge. Also, when frequenting commercial places, it's obvious to see that since things reopening, many have taken the "oh goody, it's over!" frame of mind and decide to leave their masks at home and disregard social distancing. But back to the subject at hand, what this means, regardless of any facts or fiction, is AMPs will close back down. Most are down to 1 person. They are quite scared and preparing to bail. Be respectful and come in wearing your mask if they require it.

[Jbvo35]

Maybe you should check YOUR sources from somewhere besides MSNBC, CNN, or the like. Like I said reported cases have gone up due to increased detection through increased testing. Death rates are actually going down.

https://www.google.com/search?q=deat...=1593662929712

Looking at the raw data on this graph, it is plain to see that this virus is most deadly at the beginning of the week and is not deadly at all on the weekends. Hallelujah! We can all leave the house safely on the weekends!

My point here is that no matter what the statistics, they can be manipulated to support whatever cause or agenda the reader wants. Real data analysis however will simply state the trends and not speculate as to 'whys' that aren't supported by the data. What we can see from this data is that there is a general declining trend from may to present in deaths in the USA. This, however is not what the major media outlets are reporting. They are reporting increases in cases. This is also supported by the data, however they aren't reporting how much testing we are doing. You can see that there is a significant number of testing being done here. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/states-comparison Information guided by experience would suggest that as testing increases, a statistically similar increase in positive cases will be seen, as will a statistically similar number of negative cases. However, no news outlet is reporting that we are seeing an increase in the number of negative COVID tests, even though it is a statistical fact based on the raw data.

Don't be duped. The media has a mission to only report what they want you to know. If you want to know the truth, you should read into what is NOT being said in the report and then make a determination of what should be believed.

[MotionLotion]

You really should expand your information sources; Deaths absolutely HAVE increased, and the percentage of deaths associated with Covid-19 is nearly 5%. The facts are readily available.

Maybe you should check YOUR sources from somewhere besides MSNBC, CNN, or the like. Like I said reported cases have gone up due to increased detection through increased testing. Death rates are actually going down.

https://www.google.com/search?q=deat...=1593662929712

[AnandaJim]

Also, the number of deaths have not increased, but the lamestream media doesn't want to report the good news because they want you to live in fear. The survival rate is nearly 99 percent.

You really should expand your information sources; Deaths absolutely HAVE increased, and the percentage of deaths associated with Covid-19 is nearly 5%. The facts are readily available.