The Woodshed

[Low Baller]

Maybe a discussion best had in the Woodshed, but a quick thought. Pulling a CC and not pulling the trigger is seen by many prosecutors as having NOT been a life-or-death situation. If you pull it, shoot! And shoot to kill, leaving only one side of the story to be told. If you're not ready for that you probably shouldn't be carrying. Safe Mongering!! (Not aimed at you DevilsAdvoc8, just posted on your comment.)

Karmen must be avoided always, seeing her you may be robbed, you may get beaten, you may get killed, you may get ghosted, or you may see her. There are a number of possibilities and all of them are real. She has poor skills. I know from experience, I reviewed Karen negatively last year, so she is not worth taking a chance on getting robbed over. Bottom line, Karmen should be totally avoided.

About B L's actions, I think he did everything correct, unless he wanted to pull something like I did, running buck naked to my car. He was confronted and pulled his gun to stop thing at least temporary, then he backed out, that is retreated, so that he could avoid worse consequences. Guys full of testosterone and law pundits may have done something more aggressive but I believe B L was very smart and did perfect. Yep, I wish he had shot all of the bums and then yelled Make My Day, but that was not realistic. Black Lighting really handled a bad situation wisely and also showed the risks we mongers are taking!

I am not with law enforcement, so I do not know the rules or law, but I disagree that if one pulls a gun then one should pull the trigger. There is the cliche of do not pull a gun unless you are willing to use it. Yes I agree, but the converse of that is not valid, meaning if you pull a gun you need to shoot the bum. Pull a gun and do what is needed in the situation would be my rule, and if one can avoid deadly force then seek that. But, I agree that is one is going to shoot an attacker then shoot to kill. I believe that statement is correct for two reasons. First, it keeps the bum from making a lie that you threatened him first, pulled a gun while he was just casually minding his own business. Second, he was attacking you so the best way to stop that is to put a bullet through his head. Wounded DBs can still kill you. As a side note, if a monger has to shoot a DB while visiting a provider, then assume if the DB lives, he will lie and say you started it all and tried to rape his gf. The provider will also lie, she will not be truthful and say she tried to set you up to get robbed! Would Karmen admit to a felony that resulted in her DB getting killed? Heck no, that would be admitting to felony murder and life without parole. So the provider will lie, and you need to tell the truth. You were there to see a provider, which is Not a felony and otherwise say only you were attacked and feared for your life, but you cannot say more without a lawyer you are too shaken up to say more and just repeat the same. Greg McMichael and Dunn both had big mouths talking to cops instead of shutting up and waiting until a lawyer was appointed. They thought they could talk their way out and all got life. Yep they were bad guys and you are a good guy, but do not say anything without a lawyer because the provider is guaranteed to lie. P.S. Your phone is proof you were invited into the room, you will need to give that to your lawyer. What a mess one gets from shooting to save one's own life! Black Lightening, you were so darn smart to back away and avoid such a mess!!

Re Karmen, mongers need to avoid her, she is not worth any of the possibilities.

[BudWhite]

Maybe a discussion best had in the Woodshed, but a quick thought. Pulling a CC and not pulling the trigger is seen by many prosecutors as having NOT been a life-or-death situation. If you pull it, shoot! And shoot to kill, leaving only one side of the story to be told. If you're not ready for that you probably shouldn't be carrying. Safe Mongering!! (Not aimed at you DevilsAdvoc8, just posted on your comment.)

This is 100% correct.

A CC permit is a license to carry concealed. Not a license to flash your brand new toy. Knives while considered deadly weapons are also something you can walk away from unless you're cornered with no other means of escape.

This also isn't an armed robbery. He was in their room. They'll claim self defense. He's lucky they didn't shoot him for waiving a firearm around like a toy.

[Bobb Sledd]

I'm also CCW. I remember this from my course. At that point he was in an armed robbery situation where using your weapon is now legal. I also don't know why anyone is discouraging self-defense in this scenario. Yes, the law is never 100% but neither is trusting DBs not to kill you after you hand over the money anyway. Obviously, don't pull the trigger unless you have to, but not sure why leaving yourself to the mercy of thugs is somehow the right move.

At any rate, thanks to the guy that let us know. This is the worst thing that can happen in this game. Stay safe everyone. Thanks Oshmalee for sending the ban to STG.

Maybe a discussion best had in the Woodshed, but a quick thought. Pulling a CC and not pulling the trigger is seen by many prosecutors as having NOT been a life-or-death situation. If you pull it, shoot! And shoot to kill, leaving only one side of the story to be told. If you're not ready for that you probably shouldn't be carrying. Safe Mongering!! (Not aimed at you DevilsAdvoc8, just posted on your comment.)

[MRBrooks1133]

What the fuck is wrong with you? You are fine with wanting to engage in illegal activity, but the other side is immoral because what now?

"an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass" Go to a bar. Don't shoot someone.

Piece of shit.

Your going go to call me piece of shit for having the balls to defend myself. That's why guys like me who fought for this country, is the reason why little pussy fucks like you who didn't get laid high school, who have never lived up to a standard in life, who always cried for not getting a trophy for finishing last, but still got acknowledged for trying, is the reason why you grew up to be *****! Your a crybaby little simp bastard who does what your femboy pimp tells you what to do. So you say " how dare you shoot at anyone, you'll got to jail". "That's not how you treat a provider and her pimp". So I guess I'm suppose to stand there and let them rob me and be on my way right? That's just how it goes right? That's just the nature of the game right? And of course your going to say "well, you who had no business being there in the first place". Your right.

I had no business being in Afghanistan, but I was there. That doesn't mean you get to dictate my fate. There is people that have worked really hard and earned their right to exist on this planet. I can make a pretty good guess that 90% of these providers as well as their degenerate pimps haven't earned nothing in this lifetime. And if anything, they should all be castrated. Especially the ones who are going out their way take advantage of good people. This is why we can't have good things in this country.

[DevilsAdvoc8]

Dude when 3 guys come after me I'm pulling my piece too. You're way overthinking this. I always wanted to see that girl too but not anymore. As long as money wasn't exchanged for sexual services he's in the clear. He committed no crime and is perfectly legal to defend himself. Now if after then the waters get murky but I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep dropping 3 DBs that brought a knife to a gun fight.

I'm also CCW. I remember this from my course. At that point he was in an armed robbery situation where using your weapon is now legal. I also don't know why anyone is discouraging self-defense in this scenario. Yes, the law is never 100% but neither is trusting DBs not to kill you after you hand over the money anyway. Obviously, don't pull the trigger unless you have to, but not sure why leaving yourself to the mercy of thugs is somehow the right move.

At any rate, thanks to the guy that let us know. This is the worst thing that can happen in this game. Stay safe everyone. Thanks Oshmalee for sending the ban to STG.

[Grune]

I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...a/020229639684.

A few weeks back she was posting that she was homeless and living out of a bus station and needed money for a room. That means she's down bad and desperate. I make it a point to avoid the desperate. Nothing to lose.

[MRBrooks1133]

What the fuck is wrong with you? You are fine with wanting to engage in illegal activity, but the other side is immoral because what now?

"an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass" Go to a bar. Don't shoot someone.

Piece of shit.

Oh so your going to justify every pimp that tries to rob someone for playing by the rules. Oh let me guess, in the black Market business there is no rules right? Bullshit! Smart successful individuals who have money don't fool around the ghettos. But believe it or not, you can find top notch call girls / #myfans webcam girls that will try to take advantage of you as well. Its not just the ghetto / trailer park. I rest assure you this, when prostitution becomes legalized and monitored by the state / government, the types of girls will die off. Natural selection will takes its place.

[Zinzrah]

The firearm law knowledge on this forum is frightening.

Dude when 3 guys come after me I'm pulling my piece too. You're way overthinking this. I always wanted to see that girl too but not anymore. As long as money wasn't exchanged for sexual services he's in the clear. He committed no crime and is perfectly legal to defend himself. Now if after then the waters get murky but I wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep dropping 3 DBs that brought a knife to a gun fight.

[SuperXY]

The firearm law knowledge on this forum is frightening.

My thought as well. I'm CC, and choose never carry to a meet up. It's not worth working yourself up to be put in a slammer over these model citizens.

[Low Baller]

I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...a/020229639684.

BL,

First I am glad you got out safe and second safe without getting robbed. At least you did not have to run naked to your car like I did.

Mongers, this is scary in more than the fact some providers are trying to rob us. What is scary is that these girls have been in Jax a long time and even have good reviews here. So they must be normal much of the time, but when desperate they decide to rob us. And, Mongers do not blame stg, this provider has been on Tryst and asking high prices!

Three lessons from all of this: First, even a positive rated long term provider may rob or even kill us. Second Mongers, do not ever trust a provider. You are only $ to her no matter how she makes you feel like a bf. Third, the girls make you feel special, but we are just $ to them so stop paying them insane rates, they are not our girl friends!

BL, again glad you are ok, you did every thing right the reviews have been positive and yet you were cautious and you baked out when you had to.

[BudWhite]

I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...a/020229639684.

The firearm law knowledge on this forum is frightening.

[Oshmalee]

Glad you're okay. She won't be suckering anymore mongers from STG. Sent link to boss man.

I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...a/020229639684.

[MRBrooks1133]

I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...a/020229639684.

Hey blacklighting,

Look at my previous post about this girl from back in Feb. Now you know what I mean when I say avoid this girl! It's amazing how all these other guys defending her when I complained about her for what she tried to do to me. Fucking white knight cucks. Yeah, avoid youngerman circle, which is where I found her at the time, but I know she's at Baymeadows. Avoid that area too. In fact, there was shooting out there a couple nights go in that area. It's ironic how there happens to be shady shit that goes on out there but you a sheriff's office on the right side a few blocks down passed the Sonesta suites if I'm pronouncing that right.

[ClitEastwoodJx]

I had a dream I met Karmen this morning morning. Long story short, I get to the hotel. When I stepped in the room, I noticed her acting weird. Three guys come out of her bathroom with knives to try and robbed me. I'm licensed to carry, so I had other plans. I pull out my piece and slowly backed out the door. Karmen will get you caught up, be safe fellas. https://jacksonville.skipthegames.co...a/020229639684.

OMG! She's back to that shit again? I'm so sorry that happened to you, and I'm glad you're okay! Wow!

[PlayTiem]

There's several girls who definitely deserve to get shot. This is why the game is illegal. These crackheads / dopeboys / pimps / thug wannabes who are always trying to take advantage of an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass. I think we should carry a body cam for our protection. Atleast it shows they were trying to take advantage of us at gun point if we ever had to use self defense as a last resort. I'd rather take a prostitution conviction then be charge for pre meditated murder. At least it shows they attempted to kill me if I had to use a gun on them. After all, we're just there to get laid. That's it. Nothing else to it. These girls / pimps are just there to rob us.

What the fuck is wrong with you? You are fine with wanting to engage in illegal activity, but the other side is immoral because what now?

"an innocent individual just trying to get a quick piece of ass" Go to a bar. Don't shoot someone.

Piece of shit.