Rants and Raves

[Stallion6007]

Have had success through the years. You're right, you have to have some game but generally you can find some nice looking ladies out there. Just curious, that last pic looks like you're raw-doggin'. I've had some success with the civvies on CL wanting it bare. What's been your experience? - Stallion.

I disagree. If you've got game, you can have some nice scores. I've been fucking CIVILIAN women from CL. Not pros. Regularly, for years. So far this year I've fucked ten different women for the first time, and three regulars from years past. And many of these women were absolutely beautiful. Even a couple of "perfect 10's". Yes, I've had a few curvy ladies, but what they have lacked in physical attributes, they have made up for ten-fold in attitude. These pix are ALL real women I've fucked from CL over the past 12 months. I took most of the pix myself, and there are guys on this site who will vouch for me.

[Ozymandias]

What you guys think??

Yeah, I've given this some thought as well, and much of my thinking is along a similar lines: if these girls would just be PROFESSIONAL (basically the word for what you're saying), surely they would make more money, be safer, and just have a better life? All upside.

I've even thought of going in and actually doing something about it: launching a service which provides the business environment the girls need. Media buys, commercial banking etc. I used to do turnarounds; I'd find companies which were poorly run, buy them, fire everyone, fix the company, and then resell it. The diamonds I was looking for were companies in a position to make money (existing contracts and relationships, market position, etc) but which failed on the services and deliverables side, or which had excessive expenses; low-dollar escorting as a category tends to fail on services and deliverables, and while expenses isn't a big thing, cash management is. So it seems like a ripe area for a turnaround.

But then, I'm looking at the industry (LOL) from the client-side. It's actually possible that misrepresentation, shorting time, overbooking, etc. Is actually the best way to run those businesses. Weird thought, I know, but look at clients: escorting is an industry in which the client is often as bad as the provider; there's a reason, maybe, why each wants to scrape the other off their shoe and just go to the next one. So that thought, that maybe it's just a completely different (toxic) game, plus the legal liability, has kept me out of it.

Food for thought!

O.

[Ren Man]

... unless some guy is willing to give his secret to his success. ...

Nope. Sorry. I will say that it really comes down to game. I seem to have it. Also patience. I almost never get spam, fakes or gays anymore. And I can spot them a mile away so they don't waste my time. My biggest problems are some who get cold feet (happens a lot), or "Catfish". Those are the worst. Because a good catfish artist is almost impossible to spot until you've wasted hours communicating with them.

[The Parrot]

Quite frankly gents, its my opinion that the streets, BP, CL and all of the other venues for this hobby are horrible. I only speak for myself, but just last week alone, I walked away from 5 potential deeds because I simply refuse to give away my money to subpar providers. Now these tricks are lazy. They simply will post fake pictures online, rent a sleazy hotel, wait for the phone to ring, and expect $40 + for 15 mins of rushed service. When we start to walk away from the lazy hoes and loose time and not both time and money, these chicks will get the message. I read too many post about how a fellow monger gets to the spot and its not the chick in the ad, and they go through the deed anyways just because the little head takes over. It simply has to STOP. Otherwise we will all be penalized with half assed service.

I understand that these "providers" have to deal with rude, aggressive and entitled mongers / pimps. However outside of those issues, "escorting" is supposed to be an easy side hustle. Though many providers make things worst for themselves.

1) do what the hell you suggest or advertise in the ad. Stand by your principles and most mongers will understand and respect that.

2) give people the time they paid for. Stop being greedy for the next trick. Finish the one you have now!!

3) use your real and current pics, or don't post at all. Very simple.

4) respect a mongers hard earned chips!! He worked hard for it, you are getting it easy!!

5) put yourself into a monger's shoe. Do you like being scammed? Do you like being treated like crap? Do you want someone to make you waste your gas and time?

6) communicate with the monger. If you feel scared, just say it. If you changed your mind, just tell him!! If you're on your period, just say so!! Trust me, mongers will respect your honesty as they are humans too.

7) realize that you have it easy!! Just be nice for 15 minutes, how hard is that?

If providers followed those 7 guidelines, there would be greater harmony between both parties!!

At the end of the day, it's really an easy hustle. Just sit at home and let cash be directly delivered to you like fedex.

Because of greed and drugs, many providers refuse to do the bare minimum. They don't have to change because desperate simps will pay anyway.

There will always be tension between monger and provider, because one or the other won't do the right thing.

Finally, there are consequences to being greedy and heartless. It only takes one fed up monger to pull the plug on their operation.

I hope somebody can see my point of view here, and I'm not advocating violence or aggression towards anyone!!

What you guys think??

[BigMoney21]

Hey I agree with you, unless some guy is willing to give his secret to his success. I personally know some people who got caught up in Craigslist sting even myself, I was a victim of azz and twinkie pictures from countless of gay men and for the love of God I posted in the men for women section and they still didn't care. I gave up after two weeks and I'm just being honest with you.

Craig's list has to be the WORST way to find women and sell anything in general because of all the scams and fly by night operations, let alone all the cops scouring to find regular John's and put them in the system, because once you are in you run a chance of never getting out! As the say on in living color MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY! Craigslist is overated even if you do find something there it will be the type of chick that is not desirable to any one! Not to mention the gays, tyranny, and fake pics, a lot of these bitches from the past got jobs or another hustle to supplement income, you may be better off going to bars and strip clubs to find what you need as I have of late, which means sharpening your mouth piece (which I hate doing) don't know about you but talking to regular women overall is such a bore! I have nothing in common with the modern women except that we both like money but go about different ways to get it because of biological factors of course, but most women of today are some dumb down ding bats stirred by what ever media tells them is popular! It's hard to talk to any person of this mindset if you have a mind of your own.

[BigMoney21]

I totally agree with you, that's why I started scaling back on the details of the action being provided and the exact locations and etc. I even stop posting up pictures of the chicks also. Unless it's a body shot that can only show her azz or something else to that nature.

Quite frankly gents, its my opinion that the streets, BP, CL and all of the other venues for this hobby are horrible. I only speak for myself, but just last week alone, I walked away from 5 potential deeds because I simply refuse to give away my money to subpar providers. Now these tricks are lazy. They simply will post fake pictures online, rent a sleazy hotel, wait for the phone to ring, and expect $40 + for 15 mins of rushed service. When we start to walk away from the lazy hoes and loose time and not both time and money, these chicks will get the message. I read too many post about how a fellow monger gets to the spot and its not the chick in the ad, and they go through the deed anyways just because the little head takes over. It simply has to STOP. Otherwise we will all be penalized with half assed service.

[Elvis Lives]

I disagree. If you've got game, you can have some nice scores. I've been fucking CIVILIAN women from CL. Not pros. Regularly, for years. So far this year I've fucked ten different women for the first time, and three regulars from years past. And many of these women were absolutely beautiful. Even a couple of "perfect 10's". Yes, I've had a few curvy ladies, but what they have lacked in physical attributes, they have made up for ten-fold in attitude. These pix are ALL real women I've fucked from CL over the past 12 months. I took most of the pix myself, and there are guys on this site who will vouch for me.

I will vouch for Ren and have been thankful to occasionally have benefited from his hardwork and research!

[Member #5837]

Quite frankly gents, its my opinion that the streets, BP, CL and all of the other venues for this hobby are horrible. I only speak for myself, but just last week alone, I walked away from 5 potential deeds because I simply refuse to give away my money to subpar providers. Now these tricks are lazy. They simply will post fake pictures online, rent a sleazy hotel, wait for the phone to ring, and expect $40 + for 15 mins of rushed service. When we start to walk away from the lazy hoes and loose time and not both time and money, these chicks will get the message. I read too many post about how a fellow monger gets to the spot and its not the chick in the ad, and they go through the deed anyways just because the little head takes over. It simply has to STOP. Otherwise we will all be penalized with half assed service.

[The Parrot]

I disagree. If you've got game, you can have some nice scores. I've been fucking CIVILIAN women from CL. Not pros. Regularly, for years. So far this year I've fucked ten different women for the first time, and three regulars from years past. And many of these women were absolutely beautiful. Even a couple of "perfect 10's". Yes, I've had a few curvy ladies, but what they have lacked in physical attributes, they have made up for ten-fold in attitude. These pix are ALL real women I've fucked from CL over the past 12 months. I took most of the pix myself, and there are guys on this site who will vouch for me.

I agree with you. Craigslist is hit or miss, but if you keep shooting you will inevitably meet someone and its worth it.

I only met one " free" chick off there and we talk to this day.

She is a Bbw in her early 30's, into anime and weird shit but she is extremely freaky and admitted to me that she LOVED sucking D and drinking nut.

I put her to the test that same day we met. I only had to spend about 16 for beer, 420 and food from wendys.

I sat back on the bed and she bobbed between my legs for over an hour nonstop until swallowing a huge load and she continued to suck until I was completely limp.

We would smoke, play games and then it would be back to sucking. She moved to Tennessee but we still talk and when she comes to visit I always have some warm baby batter for her.

Only thing is she's not pretty, and taller than me so I don't like being seen with her. Sleepovers were sooo fun, she would suck me to sleep and suck and swallow my morning load.

If she was a provider, shed be rich like Shelly!!

[Ren Man]

Craig's list has to be the WORST way to find women .... .

I disagree. If you've got game, you can have some nice scores. I've been fucking CIVILIAN women from CL. Not pros. Regularly, for years. So far this year I've fucked ten different women for the first time, and three regulars from years past. And many of these women were absolutely beautiful. Even a couple of "perfect 10's". Yes, I've had a few curvy ladies, but what they have lacked in physical attributes, they have made up for ten-fold in attitude. These pix are ALL real women I've fucked from CL over the past 12 months. I took most of the pix myself, and there are guys on this site who will vouch for me.

[TimBuckTwo]

Man Craigslist needs to be shut down, people constantly get robbed on the shit. And most importantly, the advertising sections for dating is rather disgusting, you have plenty of gay guys trying to hit you up despite the fact you're advertising in the heterosexual section. LOL, I once had no picture but just a visual description of myself and hear you go with tons of guys requesting dick pics or is interested in sending you one. For those of you whom are successful and patient with Craigslist I applaud you for you success and patience.

Craig's list has to be the WORST way to find women and sell anything in general because of all the scams and fly by night operations, let alone all the cops scouring to find regular John's and put them in the system, because once you are in you run a chance of never getting out! As the say on in living color MO MONEY, MO MONEY, MO MONEY! Craigslist is overated even if you do find something there it will be the type of chick that is not desirable to any one! Not to mention the gays, tyranny, and fake pics, a lot of these bitches from the past got jobs or another hustle to supplement income, you may be better off going to bars and strip clubs to find what you need as I have of late, which means sharpening your mouth piece (which I hate doing) don't know about you but talking to regular women overall is such a bore! I have nothing in common with the modern women except that we both like money but go about different ways to get it because of biological factors of course, but most women of today are some dumb down ding bats stirred by what ever media tells them is popular! It's hard to talk to any person of this mindset if you have a mind of your own.

[TimBuckTwo]

Is it just me or have you other guys noticed that the quality of the backpage providers went further downhill?! I for one really don't use BP and I rarely use the SW scene that much. I just rather just observe and report or test my old Mack skills to see if I still got it or not.

A while back, I noticed plenty of believable providers working out of G-County and Panola rd area. Now most of the G-County provider ads looks noticeably fake and they swear before God that that's really them in the pictures. And finally I'm tired of seeing the same b'$ posting up on BP using even there real pictures man can some fresh meat please hit the scene!

There are several reasons this trend has started, because of the internet women can make money more freely than ever before, Uber, lyft, affiliate marketing, etc. You will only see a better quality woman on BP in the down turn of the economy (which will soon happen)! Also things like seeking arrangements and other sugar daddy websites have put a major dent in the game, men of today are such simps and in such need of companionship that women have figured out how to get these fools to spend maximum amounts of money for the slightest bit of attention! Sorry to say it but we may not see any major quality like 2008 until another housing or financial bubble happens and money is tight for everyone, the only thing you can do is wait until that time if you don't want to pursue women (which I find totally useless) OR you can pay for higher quality women if you have money Eros, pornstars etc. Right now bottom of the barrel women are on BP because they are the leftovers so they are going to get while the getting is good at a sharp rate increase at that (go figure).

[BigMoney21]

Man Craigslist needs to be shut down, people constantly get robbed on the shit. And most importantly, the advertising sections for dating is rather disgusting, you have plenty of gay guys trying to hit you up despite the fact you're advertising in the heterosexual section. LOL, I once had no picture but just a visual description of myself and hear you go with tons of guys requesting dick pics or is interested in sending you one. For those of you whom are successful and patient with Craigslist I applaud you for you success and patience.

[BigMoney21]

Is it just me or have you other guys noticed that the quality of the backpage providers went further downhill?! I for one really don't use BP and I rarely use the SW scene that much. I just rather just observe and report or test my old Mack skills to see if I still got it or not.

A while back, I noticed plenty of believable providers working out of G-County and Panola rd area. Now most of the G-County provider ads looks noticeably fake and they swear before God that that's really them in the pictures. And finally I'm tired of seeing the same b'$ posting up on BP using even there real pictures man can some fresh meat please hit the scene!

[Bunnery Sgt]

Lmao at people caring about a ho3 feelings. That is all.