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  1. #3609
    Quote Originally Posted by Bullett64  [View Original Post]
    I was watching the USA Open and completely screwed up one paragraph, but I stand by the fact that the rules change between when your party is in the majority and when it is in the minority.

    It IS all political and the whole system has become FAR too polarized in the last few decades. We need a viable third and possibly fourth party to keep the big two honest.

    Absent that, we need to start electing statesmen, not just politicians.
    I completely agree, the two parties, the Dims and Repugs, are basically both peas off the same pod.

  2. #3608
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullett64  [View Original Post]
    I was watching the USA Open and completely screwed up one paragraph, but I stand by the fact that the rules change between when your party is in the majority and when it is in the minority.

    It IS all political and the whole system has become FAR too polarized in the last few decades. We need a viable third and possibly fourth party to keep the big two honest.

    Absent that, we need to start electing statesmen, not just politicians.
    I would concur. It's been about money and power and that hasn't changed since way before Christ was a Corporal. True statesmen? They never get into the limelight in these times. It'll take Armageddon-level stink to restore normalcy and I'm all for it.

  3. #3607
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    I will not have it

    You can talk about how you disagreed with her rulings. You can talk about her ideology but I simply will not tolerate a person of her character and intelligence referred to in that manner. Before anybody complains that I'm taking sides because I'm known to be progressive, I did the same thing when Justice Scalia died. I disagreed with nearly every decision he handed down but he was a Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States and deserved respect. Those of you who's posts I deleted if you do it again I will ban your users. I simply will not tolerate it.

    A2.

  4. #3606
    Quote Originally Posted by AaronHamlet  [View Original Post]
    Not accurate.
    I was watching the USA Open and completely screwed up one paragraph, but I stand by the fact that the rules change between when your party is in the majority and when it is in the minority.

    It IS all political and the whole system has become FAR too polarized in the last few decades. We need a viable third and possibly fourth party to keep the big two honest.

    Absent that, we need to start electing statesmen, not just politicians.

  5. #3605
    Quote Originally Posted by Bullett64  [View Original Post]
    This is politics, so I would be hesitant to predict anything. I'm not sure Sen. McConnell has the firepower to push a nominee through before the election. If President Trump wins re-election it will become a moot point, however if VP / Sen / Mr (as you prefer) Biden wins, there will be huge pressure to have the new President make the appointment.

    Is there precedence for this? Yes. You only need to go back to the end of the Obama administration when Sen. McConnell was adamant that the decision be postponed until after the (then) upcoming election.

    Why the change of position? Then the Republicans were the minority and didn't want to be steamrolled by the Democratic majority. Now they are the majority and wish to steamroll the Democrats in the minority.

    Will it play? Time will tell.
    Not accurate. Obama in WH, Repubs were majority in senate in 2016 when Scalia died. McConnell refused to call hearings until after election. Article III states Pres nominates, senate advise and consent. Majority rules. Doesn't need firepower, needs 50 votes

  6. #3604
    Quote Originally Posted by SkyWookie  [View Original Post]
    Yep, she is looked at by liberals as an icon, but she screwed her own party by not stepping down under Obama, now we'll get another conservative justice, I'm not complaining, I look forward to Roe V Wade being overturned.
    This is politics, so I would be hesitant to predict anything. I'm not sure Sen. McConnell has the firepower to push a nominee through before the election. If President Trump wins re-election it will become a moot point, however if VP / Sen / Mr (as you prefer) Biden wins, there will be huge pressure to have the new President make the appointment.

    Is there precedence for this? Yes. You only need to go back to the end of the Obama administration when Sen. McConnell was adamant that the decision be postponed until after the (then) upcoming election.

    Why the change of position? Then the Republicans were the minority and didn't want to be steamrolled by the Democratic majority. Now they are the majority and wish to steamroll the Democrats in the minority.

    Will it play? Time will tell.

  7. #3603

    Good old ruthy

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtLurker  [View Original Post]
    She swore up and down she would outlive Trump's presidency. She gambled and lost.
    Yep, she is looked at by liberals as an icon, but she screwed her own party by not stepping down under Obama, now we'll get another conservative justice, I'm not complaining, I look forward to Roe V Wade being overturned.

  8. #3602
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias  [View Original Post]
    The douchy Catholic school kid?

    O.
    Out of curiosity, what did he do (perhaps something that affected you?) that you disagreed with?

    (Just making sure you don't like him for your own reasons and not simply because you've been told not to by whatever media you follow.).

    A.

  9. #3601

    Breaking tradition

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias  [View Original Post]
    Out of curiosity, what did she do (perhaps something that affected you?) that you disagreed with? A ruling? Etc?

    (Just making sure you don't like her for your own reasons and not simply because you've been told not to by whatever media you follow.).

    O.
    RBG did what no other Supreme Court justices ever has. She spoke out against a sitting president. It has always been tradition that Supreme Court justices stay out of politics. Even Justice Kavanaugh who was basically raped by Democrats in the Senate with bullshit charges and who in fact has sided with more liberal justices on the court on several rulings has stayed out of election politics. RBG was even admonished by Sotomayor who is the only other female justice and is as Liberal as they come. When it came to her rulings she has in the past been on the conservative side more than once I respect that but I do not respect how she tried to put her opinion into presidential election politics in her last few years.

  10. #3600

    Not entirely a boogeyman

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    Ah yes Antifa; Boogeyman to Trumpanzees everywhere. You ignore the threats to national security posed by white supremacist terror groups that have headed the FBI's list of domestic dangers for years. Unfortunately, this is all part of Trump's homicidally narcissistic plan to create a race war mentality all over the country as a way of riling up his white supremacist base, fomenting violence and scaring people away from the polls.

    U.S. federal prosecutors have produced no evidence linking dozens of people arrested in anti-racism protests in Portland, Oregon, to the antifa or anarchist movements, despite President Trumps assertions they are fueling the unrest, Reuters reports.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKCN2502NQ

    You know darn well they tried their damnedest to try to find a connection and the fact that they couldn't find these connections is proof of just how clever antifa really is. Clearly, antifa infiltrated the federal prosecutors.......lol
    OK, so I am basically somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum. I won't speak on others opinions but on this subject I can. I have just recently (three weeks ago) returned to Atlanta from a three year stay in Seattle. I dealt with the "protests" on a DAILY basis. Not sure what the news here is telling you, but I know first hand what they were. There ARE organised professionals driving these. At this point antics is more just the name that covers them all. These aren't gatherings of peaceful locals, well unless you count the super-libs who drove in from Bellevue and took selfies before running like he'll before sundown. In the beginning there was an actual message to there movement. As time went on, hyper organised groups showed up and pushed things further and further. So while I do agree with some things you say sgtsoros, you are terribly misinformed on the going ons on the west coast. And I assure you, you have no idea what REALLY went on in CHOP. Mayor Durian did a lot to keep that off tv.

  11. #3599

    I give up. Again

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    You keep swigging the Trump Kool-Aid about his coronavirus response. FYI, Obama-era officials met both the H1 N1 and the Ebola crises with SWIFT, effective federal action, prepared a 69-page playbook and briefed the incoming Trump administration about obtaining personal protective equipment, moving quickly to detect and contain potential outbreaks, and using the Defense Production Act to compel private companies to produce needed medical supplies.

    Trump, however, disbanded the National Security Council team on pandemic preparedness and made cuts to public health programs and to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Trump essentially wasted two months during which he downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic, spread false information and contradicted his own medical advisors, refusing to take responsibility for the shortages of ventilators, personal protective equipment and needed supplies. Now, he proposes lessening precautions, though infection levels in many areas, especially college towns are rising. It is hard to imagine a president doing a worse job. He deserves to be FIRED in 46 days.

    You are just wrong Imo ... even head bureaucrat Dr fauci has said numerous times he Never felt trump departed from,or skewed his recommendations, and he was standing right there most of the time.
    Ill take his direct quotes over your source, the once believable CBS news.(well at least it wasnt as blatant in Cronkites day)
    Nearly 100% of the journalists there are inflicted with tds and it shows in their pieces, sticks out like a sore thumb,

    and yet you take every word as the gospel, a 30 second critique,is all it takes to show the slant of that and most all stories not reports anymore.


    God bless y'all, maybe someday you'll come to your senses.
    Somebody once said "father forgive them for they not know what they do".

    You debate well, but your sources of the information you use are skewing your views. As intended!

    You wannna talk about cool aid OMG.

    I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, as my sweet grandmother used to say, "bless your heart".

    I'll leave it with yall , my blood pressure just can't take it.

    Just remember. We're all Americans, and even though we have different views, we should be all pulling the rope in the same direction.

    We all bleed the same color, and should respect our flag. And our elders.

    Politicians come and go, but trying to change what this country is founded on, is a Very dangerous thing....yall remember that when you go vote.
    And please do go vote,however you vote is your right,if you dont vote its a slap in face to those that fought to give us that right.

    I don't hate anyone, especially not over their political views.

    God Bless you sarge, and all the rest.

  12. #3598

    “Antifa" more a figment of the far-right's lackluster imagination...

    Quote Originally Posted by Island1981  [View Original Post]
    I got relatives that are "well off" with multiple homes, investments etc and they believe the CNN / mainstream propaganda about how "great" Antifa is. I show them countless news articles showing the violence they perpetuate on how they are crypto communist / fascists. They are totalitarian in nature and they do not believe in freedom and liberty. It's just the brownshirts 2.0 and they are getting BIG FINANCIAL BACKING by very powerful people... there is nothing organic about it.

    Google "brow shirts" of Nazi germany and you will see what I mean. There is nothing new under the sun... every thing you are witnessing today has been repeated in a different country and timeline... this situation does not end well.

    It's gallows humor, but I will be LAUGHING NOT CRYING if these communist freaks and their elitist backers got their way ending the constitution, property rights and my relatives lossing their comfort and properties etc. I am done warning people, let the chips fall where they may... we will become just another example of a failed state... there are already countless failed states throughout history, so time wont care.
    Ah yes Antifa; Boogeyman to Trumpanzees everywhere. You ignore the threats to national security posed by white supremacist terror groups that have headed the FBI's list of domestic dangers for years. Unfortunately, this is all part of Trump's homicidally narcissistic plan to create a race war mentality all over the country as a way of riling up his white supremacist base, fomenting violence and scaring people away from the polls.

    U.S. federal prosecutors have produced no evidence linking dozens of people arrested in anti-racism protests in Portland, Oregon, to the antifa or anarchist movements, despite President Trumps assertions they are fueling the unrest, Reuters reports.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...-idUSKCN2502NQ

    You know darn well they tried their damnedest to try to find a connection and the fact that they couldn't find these connections is proof of just how clever antifa really is. Clearly, antifa infiltrated the federal prosecutors.......lol
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  13. #3597
    Quote Originally Posted by Island1981  [View Original Post]
    I got relatives that are "well off" with multiple homes, investments etc and they believe the CNN / mainstream propaganda about how "great" Antifa is. I show them countless news articles showing the violence they perpetuate on how they are crypto communist / fascists. They are totalitarian in nature and they do not believe in freedom and liberty. It's just the brownshirts 2.0 and they are getting BIG FINANCIAL BACKING by very powerful people... there is nothing organic about it.

    Google "brow shirts" of Nazi germany and you will see what I mean. There is nothing new under the sun... every thing you are witnessing today has been repeated in a different country and timeline... this situation does not end well.

    It's gallows humor, but I will be LAUGHING NOT CRYING if these communist freaks and their elitist backers got their way ending the constitution, property rights and my relatives lossing their comfort and properties etc. I am done warning people, let the chips fall where they may... we will become just another example of a failed state... there are already countless failed states throughout history, so time wont care.
    Just like the Nazis of old Antifa and their supporters will be defeated I just pray that it doesn't cost 50 million lives like the last time we had to fight this scourge.

  14. #3596

    Antifa is just dressed up fascism / communism under another name.

    Quote Originally Posted by Worf359  [View Original Post]
    No I just listen to them talk.
    I got relatives that are "well off" with multiple homes, investments etc and they believe the CNN / mainstream propaganda about how "great" Antifa is. I show them countless news articles showing the violence they perpetuate on how they are crypto communist / fascists. They are totalitarian in nature and they do not believe in freedom and liberty. It's just the brownshirts 2.0 and they are getting BIG FINANCIAL BACKING by very powerful people... there is nothing organic about it.

    Google "brow shirts" of Nazi germany and you will see what I mean. There is nothing new under the sun... every thing you are witnessing today has been repeated in a different country and timeline... this situation does not end well.

    It's gallows humor, but I will be LAUGHING NOT CRYING if these communist freaks and their elitist backers got their way ending the constitution, property rights and my relatives lossing their comfort and properties etc. I am done warning people, let the chips fall where they may... we will become just another example of a failed state... there are already countless failed states throughout history, so time won’t care.

  15. #3595

    Talking points

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtSoros  [View Original Post]
    Did you get those talking points from the creeper in chief?
    No I just listen to them talk.
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