Rants and Raves

[Ozymandias]

Currently watching the presidential debates, and I must say Donald Trump is COMPLETELY running over Joe Biden.

The moderator is such a limp wrist simp, with ZERO backbone. He is allowing Trump to walk over them both and control the conversation.

It's safe that sooo many "men" have become spineless simps. The moderator is the type of simp to pay 500 for a hh session with a 40 yr old mild. And they say he enjoyed it.

Manhood is a lost art smh.

Who won this debate? Trump did in my opinion.

No one won the debate because there were no objectives to meet. A "win" requires victory conditions.

As for Chris Wallace, he makes $500 every 8 minutes, so I guess 500 for a hh session is reasonable for him.

(Seriously, stop worrying about other men and their wallets. They don't worry about you.).

O.

[Niteluvr]

We have this from from the former Republican National Committee Chairman ~ Michael Steele.

America, this president has shown his ass tonight. He does not deserve to sit in that chair behind the Resolute Desk; nor does he deserve the respect afforded his predecessors--he has not earned it. His debate performance tonight disgraced the American people. #Debates2020 10:40 PM Sep 29, 2020

Guess that's why the word "former" is right before the title.

[SkyWookie]

Let's take a look at what the major news stations / media outlets are saying about the debate, and with the exception of one network where opinion was divided (guess which! They all looked crestfallen. Or maybe shell-shocked. In case you are skeptical, here are some of the post-debate headlines:

Politico: An Epic Moment of National Shame: The Debate Was an Embarrassment for the Ages.

The Washington Post: Trump incessantly interrupts and insults Biden as they spar in acrimonious first debate.

The New York Times: With Cross Talk, Lies and Mockery, Trump Tramples Decorum in Debate With Biden.

The Week: The debate was so bad that circus workers say it's offensive to call it a circus.

Slate: Cancel the Debates: This degrading spectacle didn't show voters anything they don't already know.

San Jose Mercury News: 'An Embarrassment to our country': Should that be the last Trump-Biden debate?

Bloomberg: Trump Embarrassed His Country and Himself.

IndieWire: The First Biden-Trump Debate Was an Embarrassing Waste of Time.

Chicago Tribune: Trump's toxic debate performance was 90 minutes of disqualifying noise and cruelty.

The Bulwark: No More Debates: In Cleveland, our national humiliation continued.

National Review: Well, That Was Dispiriting.

Fox News: Debate goes off the rails as Trump interrupts, Biden bickers in shout fest.

Fox News: Trump clearly defeats Biden in first presidential debate.

You quoted left wing radical sources with the exception of fox News. Fox said Trump clearly won.

[ARegularGuy]

Forget backbone, the debate was a national embarrassment. Image you don't speak English and you watched that deplorable performance from another country. One would have to conclude that POTUS was unhinged and even more so, unworthy of holding high office.

ARG.

Even with people feeding Biden answers through his earpiece he couldn't stand up to the greatness known as Trump, it was a joke, every poll taken after the debate showed Trump destroyed him.

Currently watching the presidential debates, and I must say Donald Trump is COMPLETELY running over Joe Biden.

The moderator is such a limp wrist simp, with ZERO backbone. He is allowing Trump to walk over them both and control the conversation.

It's safe that sooo many "men" have become spineless simps. The moderator is the type of simp to pay 500 for a hh session with a 40 yr old mild. And they say he enjoyed it.

Manhood is a lost art smh.

Who won this debate? Trump did in my opinion.

[ARegularGuy]

Even with people feeding Biden answers through his earpiece he couldn't stand up to the greatness known as Trump, it was a joke, every poll taken after the debate showed Trump destroyed him.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbre...during-debate/#46 d3 f2 d96073.

SkyWookie, I think you might believe any dumb-ass conspiracy theory! Any candidate who would consider wearing an earpiece would be smart enough to make sure it was WIRELESS and undetectable. C'Mon, use your head!

ARG.

[NuGuy36]

Even with people feeding Biden answers through his earpiece he couldn't stand up to the greatness known as Trump, it was a joke, every poll taken after the debate showed Trump destroyed him.

Let's take a look at what the major news stations / media outlets are saying about the debate, and with the exception of one network where opinion was divided (guess which! They all looked crestfallen. Or maybe shell-shocked. In case you are skeptical, here are some of the post-debate headlines:

Politico: An Epic Moment of National Shame: The Debate Was an Embarrassment for the Ages.

The Washington Post: Trump incessantly interrupts and insults Biden as they spar in acrimonious first debate.

The New York Times: With Cross Talk, Lies and Mockery, Trump Tramples Decorum in Debate With Biden.

The Week: The debate was so bad that circus workers say it's offensive to call it a circus.

Slate: Cancel the Debates: This degrading spectacle didn't show voters anything they don't already know.

San Jose Mercury News: 'An Embarrassment to our country': Should that be the last Trump-Biden debate?

Bloomberg: Trump Embarrassed His Country and Himself.

IndieWire: The First Biden-Trump Debate Was an Embarrassing Waste of Time.

Chicago Tribune: Trump's toxic debate performance was 90 minutes of disqualifying noise and cruelty.

The Bulwark: No More Debates: In Cleveland, our national humiliation continued.

National Review: Well, That Was Dispiriting.

Fox News: Debate goes off the rails as Trump interrupts, Biden bickers in shout fest.

Fox News: Trump clearly defeats Biden in first presidential debate.

[Sgt Soros]

Even with people feeding Biden answers through his earpiece he couldn't stand up to the greatness known as Trump, it was a joke, every poll taken after the debate showed Trump destroyed him.

We have this from from the former Republican National Committee Chairman ~ Michael Steele.

America, this president has shown his ass tonight. He does not deserve to sit in that chair behind the Resolute Desk; nor does he deserve the respect afforded his predecessors--he has not earned it. His debate performance tonight disgraced the American people. #Debates2020 10:40 PM Sep 29, 2020

[SkyWookie]

Currently watching the presidential debates, and I must say Donald Trump is COMPLETELY running over Joe Biden.

The moderator is such a limp wrist simp, with ZERO backbone. He is allowing Trump to walk over them both and control the conversation.

It's safe that sooo many "men" have become spineless simps. The moderator is the type of simp to pay 500 for a hh session with a 40 yr old mild. And they say he enjoyed it.

Manhood is a lost art smh.

Who won this debate? Trump did in my opinion.

Even with people feeding Biden answers through his earpiece he couldn't stand up to the greatness known as Trump, it was a joke, every poll taken after the debate showed Trump destroyed him.

[Sgt Soros]

Currently watching the presidential debates, and I must say Donald Trump is COMPLETELY running over Joe Biden.

The moderator is such a limp wrist simp, with ZERO backbone. He is allowing Trump to walk over them both and control the conversation.

It's safe that sooo many "men" have become spineless simps. The moderator is the type of simp to pay 500 for a hh session with a 40 yr old mild. And they say he enjoyed it.

Manhood is a lost art smh.

Who won this debate? Trump did in my opinion.

Republican pollster Frank Luntz convened a focus group of 16 undecided voters from swing states, and in general they had kinder things to say about Biden's performance than Trump's.

Asked to describe Trump in one word or phrase, the responses were: horrid, chaotic, unpolished, crackhead, ehh, puzzling, un-American, unhinged, an ass, but a confident ass, classic Trump, forceful, unhinged, bully, arrogant, arrogant, typical.

Then, asked to describe Biden, the responses were: I was surprised at how well he did, better than expected, definitely more professional than Trump and I think he’s more a people person, competent, politician, showed restraint and compassion, politician, predictable, nice guy but lacking vision, coherent, leader, attentive and rehearsed, somewhat evasive, humanity and integrity, predictable, presidential.

Biden dismissed Trump as a "liar" and a "clown," at one point declaring him the "worst president that America has ever had. ". Trump did not impose his will on the proceedings, he had a massive meltdown on live TV. None of these facts can be disputed!

[Niteluvr]

Delusion is probably defined as an impression that is falsely maintained regardless of reality. Please look up on the web. So who is delusional over here? Elephant or Donkey or only MAGA's??

America was greatest under a fucking womanizer name Bill Clinton. The economy was greatest, you could get a job even if you have tiny bit of education. WE have budget surplus and people of color were not blamed for all the problems of US.

What we had after he left?? We were attacked by some dumb fuckers, we had endless wars and economy took shit despite all the tax cuts under Bush. Greatest recession since 1929.

Obama rescued the US economy and we had steady growth for the longest period in the history of this country. He tried to provide the best health coverage to poor people and partially succeeded to guarantee health care for per-existing conditions.

Now under YUOR god trump the pussy grabber, we have race riots in US, people who work hourly jobs are in deep shit because of pandemic, no body knows how to fix economy, how to bring the nation together and blaming everything on democrats. This country is going to be in deep shit if he is elected again. You MAGA guys will sucking Putin's dick and this country will never be great again.

I think I'm going to retire from this thread, it is just stupid dicks on both sides.

You definitely should retire from anything involving brains and basic logic. You're so biased that your dick is taking a hard curve to the left and no amount of meds can fix that.

[Parrot Scope]

Currently watching the presidential debates, and I must say Donald Trump is COMPLETELY running over Joe Biden.

The moderator is such a limp wrist simp, with ZERO backbone. He is allowing Trump to walk over them both and control the conversation.

It's safe that sooo many "men" have become spineless simps. The moderator is the type of simp to pay 500 for a hh session with a 40 yr old mild. And they say he enjoyed it.

Manhood is a lost art smh.

Who won this debate? Trump did in my opinion.

[ST0808]

And you are what you are which is even sadder. I suppose the only way that people like you will understand anything is to elect Biden and then watch his monsters move in and destroy this country. Only then will you possibly understand what you are asking for. Your pathological Trump hatred blinds you to that reality. Trump is far from perfect, no question. The alternative is far, far worse but you can't see that, can't understand that, and so you go on and on with your insanity. Over and out. Like Mike454 I am done wasting my time with myopic mental midgets like you. I'll check back in on election day after we kick your asses at the polls. So, bloviate on, George. Shriek into the darkness where the only sound is that of your miserably incoherent and pathetic voice.

Delusion is probably defined as an impression that is falsely maintained regardless of reality. Please look up on the web. So who is delusional over here? Elephant or Donkey or only MAGA's??

America was greatest under a fucking womanizer name Bill Clinton. The economy was greatest, you could get a job even if you have tiny bit of education. WE have budget surplus and people of color were not blamed for all the problems of US.

What we had after he left?? We were attacked by some dumb fuckers, we had endless wars and economy took shit despite all the tax cuts under Bush. Greatest recession since 1929.

Obama rescued the US economy and we had steady growth for the longest period in the history of this country. He tried to provide the best health coverage to poor people and partially succeeded to guarantee health care for per-existing conditions.

Now under YUOR god trump the pussy grabber, we have race riots in US, people who work hourly jobs are in deep shit because of pandemic, no body knows how to fix economy, how to bring the nation together and blaming everything on democrats. This country is going to be in deep shit if he is elected again. You MAGA guys will sucking Putin's dick and this country will never be great again.

I think I'm going to retire from this thread, it is just stupid dicks on both sides.

[HobbyMan51]

HobbyMan,

Over the years so much has changed: Once upon a time the republicans were for balanced budgets and financial restraint. Going further back, the Republicans were the party of freedom and equal rights for blacks. Now, Republicans don't seem to have a problem with deficit spending, bloated budgets and tax breaks for the well to do. On the other hand, the Dems used to be the party where most white racists hung out, now its the other way around. The Dems of today aren't leftists in any way. Ever since Clinton, the dems have been moving to the right, essentially being forced to do that by Newt Gingrich's Contract on America. The idea that liberals are leftist is spin from the propaganda machine. Take note, those with the most money tend to control the messaging we are all exposed to. If I hear first hand Trump say something ridiculous to the press, which he does almost everyday and, an outlet like CNN reports it or comments on it, that is called reporting and we should be thankful that some media folks take their jobs seriously. The best chance for common ground is to begin to agree on what the facts are and begin open conversations about our values. We aren't all that different but each group has some measure of alternative facts because the media is about money, not reality.

ARG.

I appreciate your response and completely agree with you that money is bottom line with the media. I have to disagree with you about the Dems moving to the right, though. Someone else posted that theory a while back on this blog and I just don't see it at all unless you are considering that what they are promoting these days is so far to the left that it has curved around to the right. Another thing that I agree with you about is that Newt started this scorched earth animosity between the parties back in the mid-nineties with his take-no-prisoners approach. As far as common ground is concerned I'm very pessimistic about achieving that again until something cataclysmic occurs to drive more of us back to center again. Historically that seems to be the only way back to some semblance of sanity, something we don't have at all right now.

[HobbyMan51]

Trump IS a xenophobe.

If having border protection and employing scrutiny when allowing people into this country is xenophobic then count me in. People like you and Sgt. George throw your little phrase-bites out there without any thought about what you are saying other than you hate Trump. Ok, then hate Trump. But if you hate Trump that much then you damn well better enjoy what the Marxist / Anarchist Democrats are going to do to you and the rest of us if your collective hatred brings him down. If that is what you really want then go for it. If you do happen to get it then I don't want to hear any bitching from you fuckers after you realize what you have reaped. Over, out, and done.

[ARegularGuy]

Liberals and conservatives used to balance each other out and the result was a somewhat balanced middle ground, the real truth being always somewhere in the middle. Now that the middle ground has been eliminated we are left with two unbalanced ideologies that left unto themselves would eventually destroy everything including themselves. Although I have no love or trust of Republicans the conservative approach seems to me to give us the best chance of at least some kind of balance and common sense, concepts that are completely lacking with the leftist / liberal approach which is to destroy everything without having anything reasonable to replace it with.

HobbyMan,

Over the years so much has changed: Once upon a time the republicans were for balanced budgets and financial restraint. Going further back, the Republicans were the party of freedom and equal rights for blacks. Now, Republicans don't seem to have a problem with deficit spending, bloated budgets and tax breaks for the well to do. On the other hand, the Dems used to be the party where most white racists hung out, now its the other way around. The Dems of today aren't leftists in any way. Ever since Clinton, the dems have been moving to the right, essentially being forced to do that by Newt Gingrich's Contract on America. The idea that liberals are leftist is spin from the propaganda machine. Take note, those with the most money tend to control the messaging we are all exposed to. If I hear first hand Trump say something ridiculous to the press, which he does almost everyday and, an outlet like CNN reports it or comments on it, that is called reporting and we should be thankful that some media folks take their jobs seriously. The best chance for common ground is to begin to agree on what the facts are and begin open conversations about our values. We aren't all that different but each group has some measure of alternative facts because the media is about money, not reality.

ARG.