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10-20-20 11:21 #3979
Posts: 689Originally Posted by Oldti [View Original Post]
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10-19-20 22:27 #3978
Posts: 344Trump
He is winning he will get 4 more years then its game over just watch the show.
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10-19-20 12:10 #3977
Posts: 2252Originally Posted by NuGuy36 [View Original Post]
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/exclusiv...lity-concerns/
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10-19-20 09:50 #3976
Posts: 2252Originally Posted by HobbyMan51 [View Original Post]
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10-19-20 08:52 #3975
Posts: 247Coney Barrett and the sex industry
With SESTA / FOSTA likely to come under judicial review this is a bad time for another super Catholic. https://www.yahoo.com/news/porn-star...084734739.html Just sayin!
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10-19-20 07:53 #3974
Posts: 1858Hunter Biden Story in NYP riddled with holes and red flags.
Originally Posted by Worf359 [View Original Post]
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-...mation-2020-10
Yup, I knew it, this story is blowing up faster than a Ford Pinto.
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10-17-20 23:08 #3973
Posts: 289I think you should have read my entire post A2
I am not attacking you, I am disputing your case.
Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]
You guys act like corona is ebola when it's not.
When you start writing things like "there is an extremely small, very unlikely chance that a healthy person who contracts corona will die," then I'll start reading whatever else you have to say. Because right now you're just posting danger porn.
People die, people die every day. Would some of these people not have died without covid? Yes, but covid came, and next year something else will come and people will die, that's why I posted the "deaths from all numbers" but let me tell you, none of these people would have died without covid hysteria
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...-amid-pandemicThis is nine million people who are going to die slow, painful, horrible, un necessary deaths so that people like you can feel safe.
Here are a half a billion people who have had their lives destroyed so that you could show everybody how virtuous you are by reminding everybody everyday that covid just reaches through the cracks in walls and kills babies
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coro...-globally.html
Of that half a billion how many do you think will die of crime, or no access to medicine, or exposure because they lost their homes, or malnutrition? Do you think in their last moment, while they are laying in the gutter, stomachs distended in agony that they will remember to thank you for wearing your mask and keeping them safe from Covid. Yes, I am showing my contempt for you, I show my contempt for everyone of you who acts as if there are no second nor third, nor fourth order effects from you treating a virus with a 99.74% overall survival rate as if getting it is a death sentence. I live in the third world, I am supporting 4 families that have lost everything who would be hungry without my help, I am fucking disgusted by all of you.
FYI Pneumonia is caused by either bacteria or virus, it is contagious and can kill you. It will spread, and it will kill nurses, doctors, visitors, and anyone else that gets near the patient.
Fuck I get tired of grounding you fucks in reality. It was 220,000 who died WITH covid, 70% over the age of 65, 96% who had multiple co morbidities a vast percentage who would have died this year anyway that is why the daily number of people who have died of all causes in the US has NOT spiked, there have been NO ADDITIONAL deaths. If there were then MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED TO DATE, but they have not.
And as to testing:
Originally Posted by Aaron Hamlet [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 20:34 #3972
Posts: 4919This is where I stopped reading
Originally Posted by Jeffinnatlanta [View Original Post]
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...-amid-pandemicThis is nine million people who are going to die slow, painful, horrible, un necessary deaths so that people like you can feel safe.
Here are a half a billion people who have had their lives destroyed so that you could show everybody how virtuous you are by reminding everybody everyday that covid just reaches through the cracks in walls and kills babies
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coro...-globally.html
Of that half a billion how many do you think will die of crime, or no access to medicine, or exposure because they lost their homes, or malnutrition? Do you think in their last moment, while they are laying in the gutter, stomachs distended in agony that they will remember to thank you for wearing your mask and keeping them safe from Covid. Yes, I am showing my contempt for you, I show my contempt for everyone of you who acts as if there are no second nor third, nor fourth order effects from you treating a virus with a 99.74% overall survival rate as if getting it is a death sentence. I live in the third world, I am supporting 4 families that have lost everything who would be hungry without my help, I am fucking disgusted by all of you.
FYI Pneumonia is caused by either bacteria or virus, it is contagious and can kill you. It will spread, and it will kill nurses, doctors, visitors, and anyone else that gets near the patient.
Fuck I get tired of grounding you fucks in reality. It was 220,000 who died WITH covid, 70% over the age of 65, 96% who had multiple co morbidities a vast percentage who would have died this year anyway that is why the daily number of people who have died of all causes in the US has NOT spiked, there have been NO ADDITIONAL deaths. If there were then MORE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED TO DATE, but they have not.
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10-17-20 18:04 #3971
Posts: 1011Originally Posted by Jeffinnatlanta [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 16:26 #3970
Posts: 289The cost is not just lives (updated due to timeout)
I've been waiting for someone to put out the numbers for the costs of treating the virus.
Originally Posted by HobbyMan51 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]
OK, so of the 8,300,000 (rounding for the sake of making the math simple) let's say that 10% have symptoms that require hospitalization or care of some sort. I have not seen the figures, but let's run with that for now. So 830 K Americans that are symptomatic with Covid, requiring hospitalization. We know that 224 K of those people died. Those people were all in the $39 K bucket. Let's say just to make the math simple that of the 608 K that survived (or have not yet died) that 200 K were the $39 K level (Covid pneumonia on a ventilator), 200 K were the $13 K level (Covid pneumonia not on a ventilator), and the 208 K were the $5 level (they had Covid, but did not contract pneumonia. Not the same as garden variety pneumonia, but it's a figure, probably way low, to plug in). I am sure the "real" numbers are skewed towards the $39 K level and the $5k number for "just Covid" is low but I am giving the benefit of the doubt. So here is the breakdown:
Patients MC cost Total cost.
224000 39000 8,736,000,000.00.
200000 39000 7,800,000,000.00.
200000 13000 2,600,000,000.00.
208000 5000 1,040,000,000.00.
Total.
832000 20,176,000,000. 00.
So the total if every one of the people that contracted Covid and had pneumonia was on Medicare, the bill would be 20 BILLION dollars. I believe that the number of people that were infected are higher, lots of people did not contract pneumonia. But think about this. We have seen reports of people recovering from Covid and they say their bills from intensive care, ventilators, for multiple months, are up to $500,000. That's for extreme cases. So for expediencies' sake lets say the $39 k costs real dollars $200 k, the $13 k level costs $100 K, and the $5 k level really costs $25 k.
Patients Bills Total.
224000 200000 44,800,000,000. 00.
200000 200000 40,000,000,000. 00.
200000 100000 20,000,000,000. 00.
208000 25000 5,200,000,000.00.
Total.
832000 110,000,000,000. 00.
That's a total cost billing of $110 BILLION dollars. Just a low estimate of the healthcare costs. Those are bills that insurance companies have to pay. Those are bills that people without healthcare go home with. If you get sick and get Covid pneumonia without insurance and you're in the hospital for a couple weeks, could you pay a bill in the $100 k range? Could your elderly parents or grandparents? And when the patient can't pay, the hospital has to write off the cost. How much are hospitals going to lose before this Covid epidemic is over in our country? What do we do when hospitals become insolvent and can't pay their staff, their utilities, pay for supplies? The cost is not just lives.
So on top of that. Of the 749 k infected people (or lower, if more people are actually requiring hospitalization) have the virus. Did they get off scot free? I don't think so. If you are lucky, you don't feel like shit for a few days, or weeks. If you are lucky you don't worry about infecting the others in your household, or worry that they are infected too. And the long term health impacts are still coming to light.
If you are diagnosed as positive you are supposed to quarantine for 14 (or so) days. So you lose a couple of weeks pay, at least. The 8. 32 million people (at a minimum) lost two weeks work (80 hours) times the new minimum wage (again, going to the low end) of $15 is $9. 98 Billion That is just a low estimate lost wages. Again, some people don't quarantine, some work from home, some too sick time or vacation, and some lost a lot more that two weeks. But 10 billion dollars is lost income, at a minimum, money that people don't have for bills, or food, and that is not going back into the economy. And taxes on that 10 billion, not going back to states or the fed.
Going back to the 224 K that have died. Yes, some of you said that they had co-morbidities, they were fat, had cancer, diabetes, lung or heart disease. That is true. But they were LIVING WITH THOSE CO-MORBIDITIES. They were ALIVE. They did not have to die this year. They could have lived for years, decades. The virus took years from them, from their families, from people they could have helped, from people that needed them. 224,001 people today, according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/. Some people that died were in their 30's, a few in their 20's. They had DECADES to work, raise kids, love their families, be productive members of society. Who owes them that time? Who owes their families that time? Who owes their kids the car or the college education their parent will not be here to earn the money to pay for?
This just really scratches the surface of the real cost of the Covid-19 virus on the people in our country. I don't expect I am going to change anyone's mind here, but I do hope you think before you hit the SEND button.
All of that, and I didn't call anyone a silly name or talk about anyone's dick. Think about the REAL cost, and grow up. And my personal .02, wear a mask.
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10-17-20 15:30 #3969
Posts: 1610We try and try
Originally Posted by SgtSoros [View Original Post]
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10-17-20 15:17 #3968
Posts: 289The cost is not just lives
I've been waiting for someone to put out the numbers for the costs of treating the virus.
Originally Posted by HobbyMan51 [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]
Patients MC cost Total cost.
224000 39000 8,736,000,000.00.
200000 39000 7,800,000,000.00.
200000 13000 2,600,000,000.00.
208000 5000 1,040,000,000.00.
832000 20,176,000,000. 00.
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10-17-20 11:47 #3967
Posts: 1011Originally Posted by HobbyMan51 [View Original Post]
'using the WHO FluNet database from the Global Influenza Surveillance and Response System (GISRS), I have aggregated all flu cases by week from 2019 by WHO transmission zone (there are 18 of them) and also for 2020. Bottom line: confirmed flu cases were down only about 0. 8% globally the first 8 weeks of the year. But as soon as Covid-19 began spreading, flu cases stopped. They're down YoY 69.4% since week 10 and 97.9% since week 15. '.
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10-17-20 11:37 #3966
Posts: 1011Herd Immunity
Many immunologists, epidemiologists, statisticians, etc. Put China Virus herd immunity somewhere between 20-30% total infected, not the 90% put out by MSM, and have the data to back up their claims. Good information exists in layman terms regarding antibodies, B cells, memory T cells, but you have to work to find it. CNN Fox NYT won't tell you. They want you ignorant and scared.
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10-17-20 10:59 #3965
Posts: 2252Originally Posted by HobbyMan51 [View Original Post]