NoVA SugarBabies

[CuriousVaMan]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...6-0fad605e761d

Claims she gets 700-800 ppm. Seems DTF, but didn't pursue. YMMV.

[Dimples572]

Came across another one asking for a 2 k ppm. Fucking insane. If people are paying these prices they need to have access to their bank account taken away LOL. WTF.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...5-08a7a934d925

[FatWhiteGuy]

Sun night we were texting and she wanted to come over to my place out of the blue. Told her that was strange and we should do a m&g first. Prefer a daytime romp anyway. We agreed on 300 but she wanted 4. Asked her why she thinks and 18 yo deserves 4 and she drops the virgin card on me. Dafuq!? I don't have time for that shit. Told her that's a pretty big nugget to leave out during initial convo. She said it was getting late and another time would be better. No response from her since Sun night. Maybe I'll see her maybe I won't. I didn't believe she was a V but entertained it nonetheless. She only showed me a partial I'd where she turns 19 in Oct, no face in IDpic either. Bummer about your story. These girls suck.

Heavenlyangx.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-fe4e2069cdba

Started texting with this one, at first she tried to sell me that she was a virgin and asked for 1 k. I laughed at her offer, countered with half and no condom for 4 hrs, she agreed. I get us a room, send her the address. I check in and about 15 minutes later I get a text saying she doesn't know where to park. Huh? There's tons of spots in the parking lot, so I peak out the window and I watch who I'm 99% sure is her circle the hotel once, park for a bit then pull out and circle the hotel another 3-4 times. I'm like if that's her WTF is she doing. Eventually she finally parks, a few minutes later she texts and says I'm here. I send her the room number and watch her walk from her car to the entrance. Keep in mind this is not a big hotel at all, only has 5 floors and I was on the 5th. You walk in the lobby and the elevator is literally right around the corner. But 5 minutes goes by and she's still not at my door so now my Spidey senses are on high alert. I send a text asking what's up? Finally about 3-4 minutes later she responds with I'm here, doesn't knock but I check the peephole and she's there. Not the girl in the pictures on the profile but actually way hotter, more petite. I'm pleasantly surprised.

So Introduce myself, give her a peck on the cheek. Offer some wine I'd brought, she declined said she just wants water so gave her one of the bottles in the room. This whole time we've been texting she's been super friendly and personal, seemed cool. But as soon as she gets in the room she's just super awkward. Over the years I've been told dozens of times by gals when they meet me I'm very disarming, very easy to talk to. I like to make small talk for a while, get to know one another so I start to try with her. Ask where she's from, what she does for work. Immediately within two minutes she completely changes the subject, just straight to the point and asks if she can change my mind about not using condoms? I'm like nope, that's what was agreed to so that's the deal. If you're not comfortable I totally understand, and you're more than welcome to leave. So right off the bat she's making things awkward. She then says ok fine, can you pay me now? I said no, I'd prefer to take care of that when we're done. She says well I'm not going anywhere, can we just do it now? I'd be more comfortable if we took care of it now. Again I said no I'm not comfortable with that, but once again if you've got a problem with it you're welcome to leave. She says well can you at least set the cash out so I can see it? At this point I know this whole situation is fucked but I'm still holding out hope because she's pretty hot and I'd really like to continue with our original plans so I said you never told me you wanted cash, I'd prefer to cash app you when we're done. She said she doesn't have cash app, so I said ok, well I didn't stop to get cash so I'll have to go to the ATM downstairs. Is that what you want me to do? Go all the way downstairs now, or can we just take care of it when we're done? She said yes I'd like you to go get the cash. So I grabbed my phone, acted like I was going to get the cash and just went out to my car left. I'm 99% sure based on all her sketchy behavior from circling the parking lot for 10 minutes, to taking forever to actually get to the room to the awkwardness once she was in the room that something was up. It was either going to be a cash and dash, or at best I'd get one nut and she'd immediately come up with some bullshit excuse 10 minutes later that she'd have to leave. So I chalked it up to a waste of money on the room and cut my losses there.

But regardless, the whole vibe was fucked once she was so adamant about me paying her upfront. And tbh anytime I've had a chick in the past ask for it upfront and I've unwillingly agreed it's never a good experience because now they've lost any incentive to stay for however long you agreed to or to live up to their end of the deal. Hasn't happened often but when it does I always end up feeling shorted. So does anyone have some good advice on how to handle the situation when they ask to be paid upfront but to still not come off sounding like a complete dick and ruin the vibe? Because I'll be honest, idk how to handle that situation with any grace and still stick to my guns.

[FatWhiteGuy]

This one was on SA, but blocked her, was sweet and a very good fuck. But started asking money and the when I ignored her, she started blackmailing. Just blocked her everywhere.

Not worth it.

Omgod the devil is back. I met her Sept '23. She was moving to SanFran two days later and figured I didn't have to write her up.

Her comms were awful, used two diff numbers to text me with off / on for a few wks. One day she said was ready so she came over on a Sat night 10 p via uber drunk as balls. Immediately climbed all over me on the couch. She's a petite thing. She spent the night and was to leave following morning.

Sun AM rolls around and her parents told her not to come home, fighting I guess. She's supposed to pack her shit before her move in two days and my man logistics was going nuts thinking about it. Told her she wasnt staying with me another day so she found another "friends" place to crash at, but not till 9 pm Sun night. So now I have to deal with this mess for 12 more hours. It was week 1 of NFL Sunday and I wanted to hit bars, get smashed and bet on games, (the lines are always soft week 1).

And she fucked all that up. I was pissed.

We stayed home and banged her out few more times, realized she had a wig on. Anything goes with her. She also had her own bottle of bourbon, Michters. Drinkin from the bottle at 11 am as did I, fug it!

Decided to drive to Yardhouse in Tysons, get food and she'd take an uber to her friends place in Alexandria. Enroute we got into a shouting match and she was extremely argumentative and I almost kicked out onto 95 twice. (I told her my feelings on black women and that set her off) she's Somalian.

Upon arrival at YH she started crying and wouldn't leave my truck.

I went inside ordered food / beers during the 4 p games. Told my female server all about my +1 and she asked if I wanted her to get security. Told her I was the security. 20 mins later I went and grabbed all her shit and brought it into the booth and she followed. ***** ordered 4 shots of tequila to my 1. Damn lush.

I met the server off the side, paid the tab and left her at the table. Snuck off to my truck and drove to the parking garage by Tysons Hyatt for a shot and a beer and to reflect on my excursion. I look down and see her wallet and prescription glasses. FUCKME, I said.

Knowing that she's flying in 2 days she going to need her I'd. Drove back over and saw her sitting outside YH with all her shit like a panhandler talkin to some English guy. I pulled up on the curb and tossed him her wallet and glasses, waved, said "goodluck" and drove off. Before handing the wallet over I went through it and took $50 out as pain in the ass tax.

I never gave her any money for her visit to begin with. Hoped I'd never see her again. Weirdest 24 hrs from an SDM date.

[JonFisher]

Can two or more people share pimeyes. Like split the cost and have a common username / pwd?

Is that possible?

[NightzCan]

Sweetbaby.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...f-eb363b6c56e1

Been reviewed here once so I was cool with showing up at her place when she offered. Definitely heavier than pics show, but I was already in the front door and I traveled out to Silver Spring for a 3 bills shag that turned out to be BBFS and a really sweet girl. We clicked right away, just too bad she needs to get her shit together for me to repeat.

I imagine my review was the one you saw. I agree, she's doubled in weight over the past year since those photos were taken. Not nearly as compelling since she's put on all the weight, but she's still the best BBBJCIM I've had in the area.

FWIW - 300 seems to be her starting rate, but she can be had for much less. Treat her well, she's a sweet girl.

[TomFordModel]

I didn't insist on cashapp, granted it's my preference and in my experience I've found that probably 95% of the time it's the gals preference as well so they don't have carry around a bunch of cash and it saves them trip to the bank. But unless the gal specifically asks for cash I assume she's cool with an electronic payment of some type, in this instance she didn't specifically ask for cash so I didn't stop by the atm. But SHE was the one that was insistent about getting paid upfront or at least having the cash sitting out. But had I had the cash on me what's the difference if it's sitting out or in my pocket? Well if it's sitting out on the table she can grab it and run out. Which has happened to me more than once. Maybe some of you haven't been in the game long enough or read enough stories on this board to recognize a red flag when you see one, but I've been playing in the bowl for a good 5 yrs now and this girls actions and words screamed red flag after red flag. Especially when she's that adamant about it.

And some of you guys are getting way too caught up about the fact that she tried to claim she was a virgin. There's not a chance in hell she was a virgin and there's zero chance this was the first time she's tried pulling this hustle. She's selling pussy on the internet ffs. Why'all are acting like this was some sweet, innocent doe eyed little bunny and I'm the big scary predator that was making her feel unsafe. Far from it, I tried to be hospitable and ask if she'd like some wine or something to drink, I had music playing to set the atmosphere. We were sitting at opposite ends of a couch while I'm trying to be charming / funny and make small talk to get to know her and she just abruptly changes the subject 2 minutes in to try to change what was negotiated and wanting paid right away. You weren't there obviously but something was off from the moment she pulled into the parking lot so I went with my instincts. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Agree. All these girls on seeking are just prostitutes plain ******. There isn't a diamond in the rough.

They're all broken in some ways. You have to have some issues as a 20 something willing to bang old crusty fuckers like us.

[Dimples572]

The part I don't get from your side is your insistence on paying her through Cashapp. Most girls like cash, and it is always my way of paying. No paper trail. Why Cashapp? Did you discuss with her beforehand the payment would be Cashapp and she changed her mind when she got to the hotel room? If she was genuine (which I don't believe) she has a reason to be suspicious. Or you actually had cash with you and it was your getaway strategy to escape the scene?

I didn't insist on cashapp, granted it's my preference and in my experience I've found that probably 95% of the time it's the gals preference as well so they don't have carry around a bunch of cash and it saves them trip to the bank. But unless the gal specifically asks for cash I assume she's cool with an electronic payment of some type, in this instance she didn't specifically ask for cash so I didn't stop by the atm. But SHE was the one that was insistent about getting paid upfront or at least having the cash sitting out. But had I had the cash on me what's the difference if it's sitting out or in my pocket? Well if it's sitting out on the table she can grab it and run out. Which has happened to me more than once. Maybe some of you haven't been in the game long enough or read enough stories on this board to recognize a red flag when you see one, but I've been playing in the bowl for a good 5 yrs now and this girls actions and words screamed red flag after red flag. Especially when she's that adamant about it.

I guess I will be the contrarian here. I think you sort of blew it. You had a very cute, very young girl, maybe not a virgin but maybe she was, and who may have been willing to have condom sex with you for $500. Maybe if you had given in on the condoms (which I always use anyway. I want to reduce the risk of taking something back to my GF) she might have been more amenable to compromising on the payment method. It seems like you may have pushed a scared, naive girl, insisted on having everything your way, and ended up with no girl and out a hotel room. Respectfully I think I would have handled it all differently. I prefer being nice to the girls and it usually gets me a long way.

And some of you guys are getting way too caught up about the fact that she tried to claim she was a virgin. There's not a chance in hell she was a virgin and there's zero chance this was the first time she's tried pulling this hustle. She's selling pussy on the internet ffs. Why'all are acting like this was some sweet, innocent doe eyed little bunny and I'm the big scary predator that was making her feel unsafe. Far from it, I tried to be hospitable and ask if she'd like some wine or something to drink, I had music playing to set the atmosphere. We were sitting at opposite ends of a couch while I'm trying to be charming / funny and make small talk to get to know her and she just abruptly changes the subject 2 minutes in to try to change what was negotiated and wanting paid right away. You weren't there obviously but something was off from the moment she pulled into the parking lot so I went with my instincts. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[Old Chinese Guy]

Heavenlyangx.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-fe4e2069cdba

Started texting with this one, at first she tried to sell me that she was a virgin and asked for 1 k. I laughed at her offer, countered with half and no condom for 4 hrs, she agreed. I get us a room, send her the address. I check in and about 15 minutes later I get a text saying she doesn't know where to park. Huh? There's tons of spots in the parking lot, so I peak out the window and I watch who I'm 99% sure is her circle the hotel once, park for a bit then pull out and circle the hotel another 3-4 times. I'm like if that's her WTF is she doing. Eventually she finally parks, a few minutes later she texts and says I'm here. I send her the room number and watch her walk from her car to the entrance. Keep in mind this is not a big hotel at all, only has 5 floors and I was on the 5th. You walk in the lobby and the elevator is literally right around the corner. But 5 minutes goes by and she's still not at my door so now my Spidey senses are on high alert. I send a text asking what's up? Finally about 3-4 minutes later she responds with I'm here, doesn't knock but I check the peephole and she's there. Not the girl in the pictures on the profile but actually way hotter, more petite. I'm pleasantly surprised.

So Introduce myself, give her a peck on the cheek. Offer some wine I'd brought, she declined said she just wants water so gave her one of the bottles in the room.

Virgin or not and hot or not, you did the right thing. The only thing do differently if M&G in a bar or restaurant. That way if things start too go south like it did with your, you are only out a drink or a meal, a lot less than a hotel room. I'd also never leave the hotel room to the girl, ever! Did it once and the hotel won't rent me a room again since I got flagged for leaving drug paraphernalia (syringes, needles, baggies, pipes etc) in the room and I don't even do drugs! Worse is they either steal stuff or trash the room and it goes on your hotel bill.

[DrSummer]

The part I don't get from your side is your insistence on paying her through Cashapp. Most girls like cash, and it is always my way of paying. No paper trail. Why Cashapp? Did you discuss with her beforehand the payment would be Cashapp and she changed her mind when she got to the hotel room? If she was genuine (which I don't believe) she has a reason to be suspicious. Or you actually had cash with you and it was your getaway strategy to escape the scene?

Heavenlyangx.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-fe4e2069cdba

Started texting with this one, at first she tried to sell me that she was a virgin and asked for 1 k. I laughed at her offer, countered with half and no condom for 4 hrs, she agreed. I get us a room, send her the address. I check in and about 15 minutes later I get a text saying she doesn't know where to park. Huh? There's tons of spots in the parking lot, so I peak out the window and I watch who I'm 99% sure is her circle the hotel once, park for a bit then pull out and circle the hotel another 3-4 times. I'm like if that's her WTF is she doing. Eventually she finally parks, a few minutes later she texts and says I'm here. I send her the room number and watch her walk from her car to the entrance. Keep in mind this is not a big hotel at all, only has 5 floors and I was on the 5th. You walk in the lobby and the elevator is literally right around the corner. But 5 minutes goes by and she's still not at my door so now my Spidey senses are on high alert. I send a text asking what's up? Finally about 3-4 minutes later she responds with I'm here, doesn't knock but I check the peephole and she's there. Not the girl in the pictures on the profile but actually way hotter, more petite. I'm pleasantly surprised.

[Pathfinder04]

Heavenlyangx.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-fe4e2069cdba

Started texting with this one, at first she tried to sell me that she was a virgin and asked for 1 k. I laughed at her offer, countered with half and no condom for 4 hrs, she agreed. I get us a room, send her the address. I check in and about 15 minutes later I get a text saying she doesn't know where to park. Huh? There's tons of spots in the parking lot, so I peak out the window and I watch who I'm 99% sure is her circle the hotel once, park for a bit then pull out and circle the hotel another 3-4 times. I'm like if that's her WTF is she doing. Eventually she finally parks, a few minutes later she texts and says I'm here. I send her the room number and watch her walk from her car to the entrance. Keep in mind this is not a big hotel at all, only has 5 floors and I was on the 5th. You walk in the lobby and the elevator is literally right around the corner. But 5 minutes goes by and she's still not at my door so now my Spidey senses are on high alert. I send a text asking what's up? Finally about 3-4 minutes later she responds with I'm here, doesn't knock but I check the peephole and she's there. Not the girl in the pictures on the profile but actually way hotter, more petite. I'm pleasantly surprised.

So Introduce myself, give her a peck on the cheek. Offer some wine I'd brought, she declined said she just wants water so gave her one of the bottles in the room. This whole time we've been texting she's been super friendly and personal, seemed cool. But as soon as she gets in the room she's just super awkward. Over the years I've been told dozens of times by gals when they meet me I'm very disarming, very easy to talk to. I like to make small talk for a while, get to know one another so I start to try with her. Ask where she's from, what she does for work. Immediately within two minutes she completely changes the subject, just straight to the point and asks if she can change my mind about not using condoms? I'm like nope, that's what was agreed to so that's the deal. If you're not comfortable I totally understand, and you're more than welcome to leave. So right off the bat she's making things awkward. She then says ok fine, can you pay me now? I said no, I'd prefer to take care of that when we're done. She says well I'm not going anywhere, can we just do it now? I'd be more comfortable if we took care of it now. Again I said no I'm not comfortable with that, but once again if you've got a problem with it you're welcome to leave. She says well can you at least set the cash out so I can see it? At this point I know this whole situation is fucked but I'm still holding out hope because she's pretty hot and I'd really like to continue with our original plans so I said you never told me you wanted cash, I'd prefer to cash app you when we're done. She said she doesn't have cash app, so I said ok, well I didn't stop to get cash so I'll have to go to the ATM downstairs. Is that what you want me to do? Go all the way downstairs now, or can we just take care of it when we're done? She said yes I'd like you to go get the cash. So I grabbed my phone, acted like I was going to get the cash and just went out to my car left. I'm 99% sure based on all her sketchy behavior from circling the parking lot for 10 minutes, to taking forever to actually get to the room to the awkwardness once she was in the room that something was up. It was either going to be a cash and dash, or at best I'd get one nut and she'd immediately come up with some bullshit excuse 10 minutes later that she'd have to leave. So I chalked it up to a waste of money on the room and cut my losses there.

But regardless, the whole vibe was fucked once she was so adamant about me paying her upfront. And tbh anytime I've had a chick in the past ask for it upfront and I've unwillingly agreed it's never a good experience because now they've lost any incentive to stay for however long you agreed to or to live up to their end of the deal. Hasn't happened often but when it does I always end up feeling shorted. So does anyone have some good advice on how to handle the situation when they ask to be paid upfront but to still not come off sounding like a complete dick and ruin the vibe? Because I'll be honest, idk how to handle that situation with any grace and still stick to my guns.

I guess I will be the contrarian here. I think you sort of blew it. You had a very cute, very young girl, maybe not a virgin but maybe she was, and who may have been willing to have condom sex with you for $500. Maybe if you had given in on the condoms (which I always use anyway. I want to reduce the risk of taking something back to my GF) she might have been more amenable to compromising on the payment method. It seems like you may have pushed a scared, naive girl, insisted on having everything your way, and ended up with no girl and out a hotel room. Respectfully I think I would have handled it all differently. I prefer being nice to the girls and it usually gets me a long way.

[DrSummer]

That's why I never take a girl to a hotel room before talking to them at a public place where both parties can change their minds without any pressure and with out making a scene. This type of conversations in a hotel room (especially where a young or inexperienced girl may feel pressured) never end up well. You could have also saved the cost for the hotel room. Regardless, IMO, you were not going to get goods from her anyway. The virgin claim should have been a clue. I would have ended the deal right there. Starts with deception, ends up with deception.

Play safe guys.

Dr. S.

Heavenlyangx.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-fe4e2069cdba

Started texting with this one, at first she tried to sell me that she was a virgin and asked for 1 k. I laughed at her offer, countered with half and no condom for 4 hrs, she agreed. I get us a room, send her the address. I check in and about 15 minutes later I get a text saying she doesn't know where to park. Huh? There's tons of spots in the parking lot, so I peak out the window and I watch who I'm 99% sure is her circle the hotel once, park for a bit then pull out and circle the hotel another 3-4 times. I'm like if that's her WTF is she doing. Eventually she finally parks, a few minutes later she texts and says I'm here. I send her the room number and watch her walk from her car to the entrance. Keep in mind this is not a big hotel at all, only has 5 floors and I was on the 5th. You walk in the lobby and the elevator is literally right around the corner. But 5 minutes goes by and she's still not at my door so now my Spidey senses are on high alert. I send a text asking what's up? Finally about 3-4 minutes later she responds with I'm here, doesn't knock but I check the peephole and she's there. Not the girl in the pictures on the profile but actually way hotter, more petite. I'm pleasantly surprised.

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[Dimples572]

The GPS is getting up into batshit crazy levels. She genuinely asked for 2 k ppm LOL. WTF.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...4-80bf3cc0eeb3

[Dimples572]

Question and comment.

Did you really leave her alone in the room?

If I were in such a situation, I would try to calm things in this way. I would say offer to give her 100 upfront, to 'show my goodwill'. I have on multiple occasions given a POT 100 at the M&G, because I ask the girls to book our rooms (I have a SO), and I want them to know they are not taking a financial risk in doing so. Most of the time it has worked out and I have ended up in the FC w / them (of course, based on the quality of our interactions at the M&G), only a few times has the planned FC trip not materialized.

There are some costs of business in the sugar world, it is best to come to terms w / that fact that sometimes, the worm get the bird.

Yeah, I walked out and went straight to my car and left, I didn't leave the key card behind or anything other valuables. The hotel is in the same direction as my commute to work so I stopped by there this morning on my way in just to double check that she didn't smash the tv or anything. Everything was fine.

[DirteeBoy]

Man Dimples, that sucks! Especially cause she was hot. LOL When I'm in that situation, I offer half upfront and the rest later. That always works for me. I've been following your lead for years, I know you're a seasoned veteran so I'm sure your instincts were right.

Heavenlyangx.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...1-fe4e2069cdba

Started texting with this one, at first she tried to sell me that she was a virgin and asked for 1 k. I laughed at her offer, countered with half and no condom for 4 hrs, she agreed. I get us a room, send her the address. I check in and about 15 minutes later I get a text saying she doesn't know where to park. Huh? There's tons of spots in the parking lot, so I peak out the window and I watch who I'm 99% sure is her circle the hotel once, park for a bit then pull out and circle the hotel another 3-4 times. I'm like if that's her WTF is she doing. Eventually she finally parks, a few minutes later she texts and says I'm here. I send her the room number and watch her walk from her car to the entrance. Keep in mind this is not a big hotel at all, only has 5 floors and I was on the 5th. You walk in the lobby and the elevator is literally right around the corner. But 5 minutes goes by and she's still not at my door so now my Spidey senses are on high alert. I send a text asking what's up? Finally about 3-4 minutes later she responds with I'm here, doesn't knock but I check the peephole and she's there. Not the girl in the pictures on the profile but actually way hotter, more petite. I'm pleasantly surprised.

So Introduce myself, give her a peck on the cheek. Offer some wine I'd brought, she declined said she just wants water so gave her one of the bottles in the room. This whole time we've been texting she's been super friendly and personal, seemed cool...