Prices

[Hizark21]

I am not sure where you have been looking, but good SW's can be found if you are patient. The key is to get a SW's ph# so you can see her on a regular basis. Since you travel it's much harder since SW's ph#'s go bad so fast. This is why it's important to work together.

[Snake27]

I live in the USA where, as everyone here knows, prostitution is a disaster. In nearly all cities where I've travelled I haven't seen any street workers worth picking up in over 10 years; it seems the only ones left are those too desperate to avoid the constant police harrassment. So the SW price is infinite for me. And I've never been willing to shell out $200 to $300 for eros.com. More power to you guys with that kind money, but I just resign myself to the thought that those eros girls are out of my league. craigslist (CL) is a little cheaper, but still $150 is usually too much for me to call someone out of the blue who will most likely end up providing a lousy experience. The most I'm willing to do is an AMP ($40 for 1/2 hour room, $100 tip) and only about once or twice a year. AMP service is usually good.

I did have an interesting experience with a semi-pro that illustrates the business in America. I picked this girl up in a bar about 2 years ago and we had a fling. She was pretty and young (about 1/2 my age) and I was her sugar daddy. I didn't pay much ($80 per visit). We had a lot of fun, were friendly, and had dinner together sometimes. But one day during dinner I noticed her phone flashing every 3 minutes (she was polite enough not to answer). I found out a week or so later that she had decided to advertise on CL. Well, she became a lot harder to contact and stood me up 4 or 5 times. Apparently there are a lot of doctors, lawyers, and Captains of Industry out there willing to pay twice what I was. Very sad. I finally gave up on her, although she did call me a couple times to recover -- I was polite and made some excuses. Like they say, money can't buy love but it can buy a good approximation. If the price is right.

[Member #4186]

I've seen USASexGuide posters who claim that gorgeous AMP girls not only give them free sex, but buy them restaurant dinners, designer clothes, etc. It is probably true but I don't ever expect it to happen to me.

I don't even think these statements are "probably true." It's amazing to me to fathom, but I do genuinely believe that even anonymously and on the internet with people they'll never meet and even when discussing paid providers, many men are so insecure about their masculinity that they feel they have to bluster to boost their own self-esteem.

At the AMPs the least I've paid lately is $100 total for HJ. $80 is the normal price, but in addition to HJ I got DFK, UTC roaming up top, sucking on tit, and a great massage from a beautiful young lady.

I've gotten BBBJ at an AMP for total $120.

Recently I've had AMP FS for $140 total.

I agree with your general pricing. In the New Orleans area, things are mildly more expensive, with a $20 or so boosted up over the prices you've mentioned. But I almost never go over $200 for the whole thing, room fee and massage and table-shower and all other services and afters tip combined. In Houston there are regularly advertised "special" prices, one-fee-covers-all, and I've found that the AMPs (and a few non-Asian flop-house-style jernts) tend to agree to their advertisements, if not those of competitors. Some day a wise-en-heimer will figure out that he can just say, "We honor all competitors coupons!" and we'll have a REAL buyers' market!

More on prices here. At nearly every AMP I've ever encountered, the "room fee" tends to be $60, and I'm not convinced that they demand it for any reason other than to see whether or not you've got a wad of cash in your pocket. I try to "flash" some $20s (not a lot! don't want to get rolled!) when ponying up the room fee, merely to let the girl and Mama-san know that I'm going to pay for more than just a room.

By going for less than an hour or leaving no tip or a small tip one can get services for less than these prices. But if a low end provider isn't that busy and has legal and other high expenses I don't think they really make all that much money. I do not believe in shortchanging them.

On the other hand, I don't like to pay more than $200 even for great FS and all the amenities. I do, after all, have a budget myself. I have paid $300 total for FS at a Manhattan AMP. It was a great experience with a super hottie, but I probably won't go back soon.

I'm in a funny psychological zone, when it comes to how much I pay a provider. One response is, that I get all desperate and annoyed with myself, and have feelings of inadequacy and weakness (why am I not Caesar by now! I am well into middle age but I am not conquering France yet!) about my own "empire" of accomplishments, if I end up paying more than about $250 for a single, one-hour full-service provider experience. Another odd emotional response is, that I am willing to blow a general average of about $100 per hour (in bits and chunks) on strippers, if you count the cost of drinks, lap-dances, other services, and overall party money, through the course of an evening. I might spend three hours hanging out and spending almost nothing, and then $250 on a back-room experience that involves something like hand-job or even (rarely, for strip-clubbing) full-service, but the average generally comes out to just over $100 per hour. Somehow, more than that feels "wrong" and less than that feels "boring." And yet another response is, that if I spend LESS than $75 for an experience that finishes me off, I feel somehow dirty and undervalued, as though I have cheapened myself.

I don't know where these feelings come from, and they are obviously strangely subjective and really bear no relation to "true" market conditions or my own desirability and value as a human. But I do know enough to know, that I don't want to be blowing $300 an hour on an internet-based call-girl, not because she will or won't do what I want or look as good as I need her to look, but more because I don't want the hit to my self-esteem. I don't want to be "taken advantage of" by her and her pricing.

Posters talk about getting a PSE (Porn Star Experience) at a regular massage parlor or escort service. For $300 you can get together with an authentic pornstar who does escort service - a young hot looking one if the web ads are accurate.

Upper end "VIP" or "Celebrity" escorts, often described as "Visiting" will often run $1,000 to $1,600 an hour. I seem to remember some even higher. They may have appeared in top men's magazines and/or pornographic movies. They will often advertise under a regular double barrelled name like the luscious Mimi Miyagi at $1,500 an hour. Or they may be famous enough to be recognised by a single name, like Keisha at $1,500 an hour. I had the opportunity to meet Keisha at a stripclub once. Besides being sexy and beautiful, she was extremely nice and friendly.

At $1,600 an hour, a year would cost you over 14 million dollars. A lifetime would put a dent in a billionaire's pocketbook. Fortunately there are packages. You can get an overnight experience with "The Lover" in Los Angeles for only $5,000. A 24 hour day with Joanna DiCarlo will only cost $9,000. Brittney Lane advertises a year of exclusive companionship for $1.25 million. Remind me to buy a lottery ticket tomorrow.

Double Nickle

Indeed, the mere act of shopping around from the base of any major North American metropolitan area can find plenty of girls-next-door who act like raving banshees in the sack, and generally the less "glamourous" or "vogue" they (and their website designs) look, the more likely they'll be "personable" and therefore willing to please, in terms of both direct service and interpersonal "style" and friendliness. The genuinely touching experiences are definitely available, but usually you have to drop down from the highest of high-end markets, into the middle-end -- heh -- to find that better level of service. The tippy-top, and the marginally top, and even the aspiring-to-be-top, providers, are much lower than the satsified-with-not-being-the-top girls.

So, basically, I think those thousand-bucks-an-hour girls aren't looking for dates or Johns or companionship or a quick exchange of service-for-money. They're looking for idiots.

[Double Nickle]

$0 feel test, includes some hj,bj, seeing the goods, fingering the engine
$1-10 hj
$10-20 bj
$20-40 full
$20-60 greek lessons

I've seen USASexGuide posters who claim that gorgeous AMP girls not only give them free sex, but buy them restaurant dinners, designer clothes, etc. It is probably true but I don't ever expect it to happen to me.

At the AMPs the least I've paid lately is $100 total for HJ. $80 is the normal price, but in addition to HJ I got DFK, UTC roaming up top, sucking on tit, and a great massage from a beautiful young lady.

I've gotten BBBJ at an AMP for total $120.

Recently I've had AMP FS for $140 total.

By going for less than an hour or leaving no tip or a small tip one can get services for less than these prices. But if a low end provider isn't that busy and has legal and other high expenses I don't think they really make all that much money. I do not believe in shortchanging them.

On the other hand, I don't like to pay more than $200 even for great FS and all the amenities. I do, after all, have a budget myself. I have paid $300 total for FS at a Manhattan AMP. It was a great experience with a super hottie, but I probably won't go back soon.

Posters talk about getting a PSE (Porn Star Experience) at a regular massage parlor or escort service. For $300 you can get together with an authentic pornstar who does escort service - a young hot looking one if the web ads are accurate.

Upper end "VIP" or "Celebrity" escorts, often described as "Visiting" will often run $1,000 to $1,600 an hour. I seem to remember some even higher. They may have appeared in top men's magazines and/or pornographic movies. They will often advertise under a regular double barrelled name like the luscious Mimi Miyagi at $1,500 an hour. Or they may be famous enough to be recognised by a single name, like Keisha at $1,500 an hour. I had the opportunity to meet Keisha at a stripclub once. Besides being sexy and beautiful, she was extremely nice and friendly.

At $1,600 an hour, a year would cost you over 14 million dollars. A lifetime would put a dent in a billionaire's pocketbook. Fortunately there are packages. You can get an overnight experience with "The Lover" in Los Angeles for only $5,000. A 24 hour day with Joanna DiCarlo will only cost $9,000. Brittney Lane advertises a year of exclusive companionship for $1.25 million. Remind me to buy a lottery ticket tomorrow.

Double Nickle

[Fission06]

Prices for Las Vegas AMPs:

30 min = .50
1 Hour = .70
TS = $

For a HJ, it's generally .80-$. It's very expensive here in Vegas. I don't know about anything more than a HJ because I have yet to find one that does more than that.

[Double Nickle]

At the American AMPs I've tried pricing seems to be fairly standard, but to vary a bit depending on the location and whether it is Korean, Chinese, or Japanese. At the only Japanese MP I've tried yet, I was asked for $70 for the massage which included table shower. HJ was given without soliciting further money, but I voluntarily tipped in line with Korean and Chinese MPs.

A Chinese Massage Parlor in Philadelphia charged $80 up front. I got to wash myself in a stand up shower, use of a sauna, a great massage, and that's it. I wasn't pressured for any tip, but as my wallet was secured in a locker elsewhere on the premises, my money wasn't available anyway. I suspect known customers can get HR. House fee at New York City CMPs I've tried has been $40-$50. I went 10 minutes over at one clockwatching (but recommended) place and was charged another $10. The Chinese girls I've seen don't seem to want to talk about tipping scales, but at one place the girl awkwardly seemed to indicate that a tip equal to the house fee of $40 was expected. I had received massage, HR, roaming up top, and titsucking, so this seemed a bargain. I handed her a $100 bill, keep the change, and got astonishing service next time. Another reviewer with the same girl at the same place tipped only $30 and reported terrible service from her the next time.

I am most familiar with Korean Massage Parlors. The commonest house fee is $60. I have found this in Philadelphia, Connecticut, and Providence. One place in Philadelphia only charged me $50. Newspaper ads sometimes have a $10 or $15 off coupon. I get FS which has usually been available. One cautious girl would only do HR the first time, for which she wanted $60. The FS she gave me the second time for $100 was a much better deal. Another lady elsewhere in Connecticut only offered HJ or BJ. I got the latter for $80. I've found $100 FS widely in Connecticut and Philadelphia. Sometimes a girl at the same place would want another $20. $140 is the most I've found expected at a Korean Massage Parlor.

Lately more KMPs have wanted everything up front, $160 or $200. Usually the house fee or combo house fee/tip is asked for without any discussion of time involved. Sessions generally seem to run an hour, or almost an hour.

[Member #4186]

I'm surprised that this thread has languished as long as it has. Maybe my post will spark new discussion.

I've experienced the Tampa scene, though it has been five years. Back then, the place for service was what was nominally a "lingerie modeling studio." It worked roughly like a more typical Asian Massage Parlor, a.k.a. AMP, except that no massage was offered, nor did anyone give pretense to offer it. The usual experience went as follows:

entry: .2$ to .5$
Fallacious Stratocaster: about $ to $.5 for tip

Depending on the girl, the studio, and the client's level of drunkenness, you could therefore get Frumpy Slingshot for about $$ or less total out-of-pocket. Many of the girls were worth the investment in this Flapjack Scalawag, in terms of appearance attitude and interaction. I tended to spend total $$.5, give or take.

At one of the (many) strip clubs, you'd get a lap dance with full-straddle "Tampa style" (which is essentially identical to "Houston style" or "Toronto style") lappers for $20 a song, though that has increased to an average of about $25 a song, some places / dancers nowadays charging more and some holding to the old standard. At some of these clubs, after other entry fees to private back rooms you could experience various Crockery Hologram Junctions or Better-Business Harp Jinglings for maybe $. Steep. Plus for $$$ with a select few you might get the coveted Fancy Schmancy.

I do not generally patronize Straight Winkers and wasn't a regular on driving zones. I know that girls who looked 60 years old, but were actually 18 years old, thanks to various stimulating substances directed into blood streams, all hovered along the Nebraska Avenue stroll. I hear that the low Los Angeles prices (reported below) were basically available as the norm in Tampa too.

In Jackson Mississippi, there are very very few driving opportunities. Once in a while someone reports something going on along Highway 80, where I've confirmed that .2$ can get you whatever you'd like, if you can find a 60-year-old. I mean, an 18-year-old who is likely to look 60 years old.

There aren't any AMPs in Jackson, Mississippi. Seems sort of odd. There is one place that operates similarly, but with African-American women, so I guess you could call it an A-AMP , but there are no women who know how to give massage or table shower or any of the other things that SHOULD go along with such an experience. For a city its size, Jackson is very low on the Vicious Criminy scale relative to other national opportunities.

I know that the internet has changed, to a great degree, the reliability but also the price of actual escorting. Now you don't rely on business cards posted in phone booths any more, unless you're foolish; or even, on the many ads in the yellow pages. But there's little reason to discuss internet ladies' prices here, since they have web pages that make it pretty much clear.

I'd say, mostly, I'm surprised at how low the prices have remained over the last few decades in some areas, particularly given the degree of internet saturation and the ready availability of information and therefore greater independence for many of the ladies. Strewn Wranglers still charge such minimal rates that there can hardly be anything less. We almost don't have bills that small in this country!

[Speck]

Los Angeles pricing:

Homeless crack ho on San Pedro st.(note: This will be as disgusting as it can possibly get)

BBBJ $5 FS(god help you) $10

Normal crack ho downtown Los Angeles, Fig, PCH:

BBBJ $20-30, FS $25-60

Below average pimped girl OR independent girl working known pimp tracks(Sunset, Western/Beverly, Sepulveda, hottie gallery on fig):

CBJ $30-40, FS $50-70

Full on pimped hottie:

CBJ $40-60...note that a lot of these girls will turn down $40 if they are really hot...FS $80-120, typical being $100.

Las Vegas prices:

Downtown or Boulder Hwy crack ho:

BBBJ $10-30 depending on look & addiction level....FS $20-80 same standards.

3am in front of Flamingo:

CBJ $100, FS $200

3am in middle range strip casinos(Luxor, MGM, etc)

CBJ $100, FS $200(note CBJ may not be available and the girls will usually quote $300-500 for fs, but come down to $200 real quick. Also note that some people have tried negotiating down below $200, with very rushed service as a result)

Bellagio, Ceasars, etc high end bar girls....

CBJ - Not available
FS - $500 to skys the limit.

[PsyberZombie]

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A consumer guide to prostitutes

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[Best Tx Monger]

Has anyone noticed that prices go down during the winter time. Or at least in Texas that is the case. Usually for a very good sw, you can spend $ .8 but right now you can get a thoroughbred for$ .6 .

Was wondering if this was the case in others states and cities, or just something that is just local, or perhaps unique in this demography.

-007

[Ttbearhug]

After many years, and I do mean many.

The price is always what the drug of choice cost.

Most if not all will do BBBJCIM for 20

A few will demand 25-30, offer the 20 and promiise tip for good service.

FS, that is about 40-50

Motel for a few hours, I will give them the room and a few $$$

ALWAYS PAY CASH FOR THE ROOM

[Best Tx Monger]

Golden Eyes has come to the National forum to willingly admitt that prices in Texas, specifically speaking Dallas-Fort Worth, have taken a nose dive from MY personal experience. I do not know whether mongering miles are being limited by the recent inflation of gas prices.

With gas prices escalating to almost $3 for unleaded I do not know if current market prices will hold up. I know that I will have to re-visit my mongering habit.

Prices here are anywhere from $40-$80 for FS. You can expect to pay a Benjamin for a top of the line breed out on the street. Once again, despite gas prices rising, I have not notice significant price increase worth mentioning.

On the other hand, if you want an escort you can expect to pay $150-$200 for a mut but $250-$300 if you want a throughbred. In the future, I would not really expect prices in private sector unless you have an outcall. My .98 cents.

Regards,

-007

[NutHang]

Street prices in Portland/ Seattle have taken a jump in recent years. The problem is too many "young attorney" yuppie types have ruined the market by over tipping and gladly paying outrageous prices... I think this is true of California as well. Over the past 10+ years rates have doubled in Nevada brothels also.

All of this, plus Internet escorts (typical $250 hour FS) has changed the street rate: BBBJ now .40 - .80 and CFS now .60 - 1.20 and you will find the wannabee escorts trying to get even higher rates on street. Some of those are lookers, too.

Among the lower range, are those with various habits (crack, crank, chiva, or booze) remember the cost of a dime bag, is still a dime. So if willing to settle for that... a lower rate can be negotiated. Same with BBW providers. However the younger more attractive types, and those with pimps, are demanding rates as quoted above. Often will not move, or agree to the lower range at all

Seems like a Benjamin has become the "standard rate" for CFS, half hour, from attractive provider on Craigs List or street. Sorry to report.

[stoxnbonds]

Gents,

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Never believe anything until you google it twice.

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[USTraveller]

At a MP or Spa style location, you typically pay for the legal part of the service up front. So if negotiations for extras don't go well, you can pretend to leave to get a better price, as if you are in a car dealership. However, if you do leave, you are essentially giving up the time you already paid for.

Keep in mind that you can over-negotiate and under-pay. I'd rather pay $80-100 for FS and have her eager to perform and do a good job, aka a GFE. If you negotiate down to a rate she's not comfortable with, she'll still do it for the money but may seem more mechanical and you may not enjoy it enough.

It's amazing how consistent the pricing is among these establishments, so they must communicate in some way. There is room for negotiations, and maybe you'll get lucky and get a good price and good service. There are other factors such as how busy they are and how much competition they have, so keep those in mind too.

Good luck and believe me, I want prices to come down too, but not at the cost of good service.

-USTraveller