The Truth about AIDS.

[ImJosephMedina]

Warning, long post with lots of Jargon

When I was in college and taking immunology / virology for my bio major we were given a Peter Duesberg's "Inventing the AIDS virus" as an example of gross negligence and were taught about how Duesberg's works were a danger to society.

THAT was the very moment I began to question what I was being taught. Since when did my Biology prof become such a strong advocate in a discipline where we are taught to question everything and do the research ourselves?

I looked into it and to this day I am a strong skeptic of the whole HIV / AIDS debacle.

It's been 25 years since Montagnier's hypothesis and we haven't even isolated the virus in any of its forms. As a matter of fact, scientists have been fudging our detection methods for HIV for at least 20 years according to a Professor at the University of Toronto.

"Over the past 20 years, the medical literature has been inundated with innumerable papers, attempting to dodge the lack of electron microscope evidence for the presence of retroviral particles in samples directly collected from AIDS patients. In all these papers, the missing retroviral particles have been swiftly substituted with so-called HIV 'markers'. These 'markers' were of physical, biochemical, or genetic nature.". Etienne de Harven, MD

So that begs the question: If scientists cannot even isolate HIV for testing, how in the world do we detect HIV in people?

We use what is called an Elisa test which is an indirect test that sees if we have antibodies to HIV. The scientists behind the ELISA reason that this is used is because we can't isolate the HIV virus directly. THe theory is that if you have Antibodies to HIV, then you have HIV.

I agree with you and I think the Idea of HIV-AIDS is Hoax. It is to build a solid background for business of fear.

[MeyghaMann]

Hetrosexuals are 5 times more likely to catch LYME disease from ticks than HIV. Look it up.

You can catch HIV from ticks?

[Nitro69]

Hetrosexuals are 5 times more likely to catch LYME disease from ticks than HIV. Look it up.

[NightOwl2548]

If you don't believe me, check out the CIA World Factbook on the web, there's an article on Yahoo about Aids as well. Close to 1 million people in the USA are HIV positive. The statistics don't lie check it out for yourself.

Well considering there are at least 6 or 7 million queer men in the US I have no problem believing that 16% or so of them have got it. When you hear these statistics being rattled off by Ninny blue nosed frigid prudes don't let your mind think they are talking about Nancy Drew, Harry Highschool, and Sally the Homecomming Queen from Smallville Kansas. Think of the dudes in leather in Al Pachino's cruising, the drag queens and dudes wiggling around in jockstraps in the nightly news footage of your nearest major city's "Pride" Parade marking the Stonewall Anniversary, that's who the statistics are measuring.

At my workplace there was one person who actually was HIV positive, the fact that he was also a flaming gay bottom so I'm told by liberals has 'absolutely nothing to do with it. ' He broke up with his lover who was the masculine partner because after his diagnosis the lover did not have it. So if this guy didn't get it do you seriously think you're at risk by dipping it into some waitress who works at TGI Fridays as the scenario in "Office Space" when they were getting on the main characters case to wear a rubber with the Jenifer Anniston character because she'd had a boyfriend before?

[NightOwl2548]

Has anyone else other than me read "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS" by Michael Fumento.

http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Heterosex.../dp/0895267292

I have done BBFSCIP with hundreds of hohos and let me tell you, this book tells the truth.

Yep, I've read and it confirmed what I'd come to suspect since the doom and gloom of the ninny blue nose prudes from my 89 high school health class never came true. My sister was a fag hag and I heard all the rumors about the lifestyle of gay males in her "drama" and "choral" circle. Now what they do may be disgusting, but the social dynamics of that lifestyle are absolutely fascinating, one might even say mind boggling. They get sex SO EASY that few heterosexual men can even relate to outside the lucky few with the $$$ to live in Thailand, or some rock stars from back in the day. I used to assume that gays would go on "dates" with candles and fine dinners wondering when they were going to "get lucky" and after being blue-balled for months would finally settle into some sort of parody of a heterosexual marriage. Truth of the matter is they just walk into a gay bar and give a look across the room at a stranger who, if they nod their head, go off to have quick sex, often on the premise. They have bath houses, sex clubs, "cruising" areas such as parks, dirty book stores, and public toilettes where they meet up for anonymous encounters. Exactly the way heterosexual men dreamed life would be if women were just like men. When these queers from my sister's high school would move to New York or Chicago's Wrigleyville and start "living the lifestyle" they would rack up more sex partners in their first year than the average heterosexual man has in a lifetime. Now add to this social dynamic the mechanics of gay anal sex and you know that "heterosexual aids" is a big lie by politically correct types who were quite correct to perceive that unless heterosexuals where made to be scarred shitless, there would be very little support for the big bucks needed to come up with some sort of treatment to keep the gays alive. The blue nosed Christian prude types and upper middle class "frigid" females also gravitated to the heterosexual aids myth as it served their social agenda well. Basically you get it from having semen shot into your butt by many men who also have semen shot into their butts. A recipe thats not exactly applicable to straight men. You catch it from taking the FEMININE role in sex, which is why straight men don't get it and straight women (unless they are unlucky enough to sleep with some queer on the downlow) don't either as straight men don't take it up the ass. Gays on the other hand go both ways, back in the Bathhouse era they would go into the bath house and start the night by getting their ass buggered, this would get them all hot and ready to where they would then go out and find some other stranger and bugger his ass, catching it in the first encounter and spreading it in the second. Straights don't do this, and even prostitutes who are at some risk, are sleeping with non risk heterosexual men, NOT queers who take it up the ass.

[TYS321]

Warning, long post with lots of Jargon

When I was in college and taking immunology / virology for my bio major we were given a Peter Duesberg's "Inventing the AIDS virus" as an example of gross negligence and were taught about how Duesberg's works were a danger to society.

THAT was the very moment I began to question what I was being taught.

The evidence strongly points to this whole thing being a sham.

I had a family member die of HIV AIDS. Actually died from assisted suicide at hospice via OD, covered in skin cancers from AZT. Didn't get the $15 Magic Johnson Cure. Caught it in a hospital from blood transfusion after Red Cross refused testing.

Method of curing AIDS with tetrasilver tetroxide molecular crystal devices, United States Patent 5676977.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5676977.html

"We believe that within a period of five to ten years, it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. Within the next five to ten years, it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could be different in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organism. Most importantly, it might be damaging to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. A research program to explore feasibility could be completed in approximately five years at a cost of $10 million. It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such research should not be undertaken, lest it lead to yet another method of mass killing of large populations."

—Dr. Donald MacArthur, RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION, Department of the Army, Statement of Director, Advanced Research Project Agency, Statement of Director, Defense Research and Engineering, SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS HOUSE BILL 15090, UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY, USA GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, Department of Defense Appropriations for 1970. Hearings before a Subcommittee of the APPROPRIATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Ninety-First Congress, first session, July 1, 1969, testimony on June 9, 1969.

"PATHOGENIC MYCOPLASMA. The invention relates to a novel pathogenic mycoplasma isolated from patients with Aquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) or patients dying from diseases and symptoms resembling AIDS diseases. The invention further relates to a variety of vaccinations against mycoplasma infection in humans and / or animals."

—US Patent Office, Patent Number 5, 242, 820, Inventor Stryh-Cheng Lo and American Registry of Pathology in Washington DC, Filed June 6, 1991, continuation date June 18, 1986.

"This is a huge scandal that absolutely dwarfs Watergate. The type of mycoplasma we identified was highly unusual and it almost certainly couldn't occur naturally. It has one gene from the HIV-1 virus—but only one gene. This meant that it almost certainly was an artificially modified microbe—altered purposely by scientists! When we looked at the history of mycoplasma research we found that the military had funded mycoplasma 'vaccine testing' in a Texas prison well before the Gulf War. Ths testing had been done by a biotech firm in Houston. When we checked with the prison we learned that many of the prioners involved—plus prison guards and family members—were currently ill with the same symptoms as Gulf War syndrome. Further, we were able to study samples of these prisoners' blood and found they were infected with the same unique mycoplasma that was infecting Gulf War veterans!"

—Dr. Garth Nicolson (Institute for Molecular Medicine) , National Enquirer,"Gulf War G. I. S Poisoned by American Germ Weapons. Scientist Blows Lid Off Huge Govt. Cover-up," April 2, 1996.

www.immed.org/illness/clinical_testing.html

"Dumb people are too trusting, they don't ask the right questions. We can cure almost every cancer right now. Information is on file in the Rockefeller Institute, if it's ever decided that it should be released. But consider. If people stop dying of cancer, how rapidly we would become overpopulated. You may as well die of cancer as something else. There is now a way to simulate a real heart attack. It can be used as a means of assassination. Only a very skilled pathologist who knew exactly what to look for at an autopsy, could distinguish this from the real thing. Religion is not necessarily bad. A lot of people seem to need religion, with it's mysteries and rituals. So they will have religion. But the major religions of today have to be changed because they are not compatible with the changes to come. The old religions will have to go. Especially Christianity. Once the Roman Catholic Church is brought down, the rest of Christianity will follow easily. Then a new religion can be accepted for use all over the world. It will incorporate something from all of the old ones to make it more easy for people to accept it, and feel at home in it. Most people won't be too concerned with religion. They will realize that they don't need it."

-Dr. Richard Day MD, medical director of Planned Parenthood paid $1-billion by the USA Govt to successfully genocide 100-million USA citizens. 1969.

http://100777.com/nwo/barbarians

http://www.boydgraves.com

http://www.gulfwarvets.com/mycoplas.htm

http://www.umoja-research.com/aids_murder_docs.htm

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/...i_death_01.htm

[Hopalong]

Whew. All negative. Which is really surprising. Thankfully, my wake up call didn't come with a disease. Or a death sentence.

[Hopalong]

So, the last year and a half or so I've been kind of out of it. My drinking was out of hand and I was doing it on top of antidepressants. Long story short, about 4 or 5 times I've BBFS a SW'er (a few different ones, none that looked like IV druggies, but sight isn't the best tool for discerning that. Especially if you're half drunk). Now that I'm clean and sober and back on the right dosage for my medication, I'm obsessing that one or more of those female SW'ers might have been HIV positive. I didn't do anal in these cases, nor did it last very long (without a condom, I'm a two minute man, sad to say) , and I don't know for sure that any of these SW'ers were HIV positive, but they're in the high risk group.

I was tested this morning and should have the results in 72 hours. I can't sleep though and I'm worrying myself sick right now.

If I test negative, I will make damn sure I wrap up tighter than an oil drum in the future. If I continue the hobby, that is. I'm so panicked right now I'm not sure if it's all worth it.

[Nomyud1981]

Warning, long post with lots of Jargon

When I was in college and taking immunology / virology for my bio major we were given a Peter Duesberg's "Inventing the AIDS virus" as an example of gross negligence and were taught about how Duesberg's works were a danger to society.

THAT was the very moment I began to question what I was being taught. Since when did my Biology prof become such a strong advocate in a discipline where we are taught to question everything and do the research ourselves?

I looked into it and to this day I am a strong skeptic of the whole HIV / AIDS debacle.

It's been 25 years since Montagnier's hypothesis and we haven't even isolated the virus in any of its forms. As a matter of fact, scientists have been fudging our detection methods for HIV for at least 20 years according to a Professor at the University of Toronto.

"Over the past 20 years, the medical literature has been inundated with innumerable papers, attempting to dodge the lack of electron microscope evidence for the presence of retroviral particles in samples directly collected from AIDS patients. In all these papers, the missing retroviral particles have been swiftly substituted with so-called HIV 'markers'. These 'markers' were of physical, biochemical, or genetic nature.". Etienne de Harven, MD

So that begs the question: If scientists cannot even isolate HIV for testing, how in the world do we detect HIV in people?

We use what is called an Elisa test which is an indirect test that sees if we have antibodies to HIV. The scientists behind the ELISA reason that this is used is because we can't isolate the HIV virus directly. THe theory is that if you have Antibodies to HIV, then you have HIV.

Problem, if we haven't isolated even a single iteration of HIV that means we have no way of knowing what an HIV marker looks like. And if we don't have actual HIV markers, we don't know if we have bonafide HIV antibodies.

So what do we use in an ELISA test to check for HIV? We use those same arbitrary physical, biochemical and genetic markers that scientists have been fudging their tests with for 20 some years.

This Elisa test has as much credence as the tests to determine whether or not women were witches in Salem.

The evidence strongly points to this whole thing being a sham.

[Lurker X]

Has anyone else other than me read "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS" by Michael Fumento.

http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Heterosex.../dp/0895267292

I have done BBFSCIP with hundreds of hohos and let me tell you, this book tells the truth.

Aids is and has historically been a GAY disease in the civilized world.

It is however a serious threat to heterosexual people in filthy barbaric places like parts of Africa and the Caribbean, where rapes and child sex trading is common.

It has been theorized by scientist that more easily transmitted bacterial diseases like gonorrhea and syphilis that weaken the immune system and cause skin breaking infections are what increases the transmission rates of AIDS by easy blood to blood transmission.

Homosexual males who routinely engage in tissue tearing anal intercourse provide this pathway for the AIDS virus.

Seman from in infected man can filter into these microscopic tears and contact the blood vessels in another man's rectum.

A vagina is designed for sex, the colon and hemorrhoids are not.

The mechanics of the human body are self explanatory to a sane and rational person, ie: penis fits nicely into vagina and the desire to do so is instinctive.

But for those who are unfortunate to have nature to caused them to have their wires crossed, well let's just say that being gay should stay an alternative life style.

Fact is, natural law prevails, there ain't no such thing as a vaganus.

[Humpty Dumpty]

Has anyone else other than me read "The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS" by Michael Fumento.

http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Heterosex.../dp/0895267292

I have done BBFSCIP with hundreds of hohos and let me tell you, this book tells the truth.

[PsyberZombie]

Studies: Circumcision Reduces HIV Risk


Feb 22, 9:30 PM (ET)

By MARIA CHENG


LONDON (AP) - Scientists say conclusive data shows there is no question circumcision reduces men's chances of catching HIV by up to 60 percent - a finding experts are hailing as a major breakthrough in the fight against AIDS. Now, the question is how to put that fact to work to combat AIDS across Africa.

The findings first were announced in December, when initial results from two major trials - in Kenya and Uganda - showed promising links between circumcision and HIV transmission. However, those trials were deemed so definitive that the tests were halted early.

The full data from the trials, carried out by the United States' National Institutes of Health, were published Friday in The Lancet.

"This is an extraordinary development," said Dr. Kevin de Cock, director of the World Health Organization's AIDS department. "Circumcision is the most potent intervention in HIV prevention that has been described."

Circumcision has long been suspected of reducing men's susceptibility to HIV infection because the cells in the foreskin of the penis are especially vulnerable to the virus.

A modeling study done last year projected that in the next decade, male circumcision could prevent 2 million AIDS infections and 300,000 deaths. Last year, 2.8 million people in sub-Saharan Africa became infected with HIV, and 2.1 million people died.

Experts say the breakthrough is a significant one on par with the identification of the virus and the use of lifesaving combination drug therapy.

The two U.S. studies confirm similar results from an earlier trial in South Africa. Given the recent failure of a microbicide trial in Africa and India, and the ongoing difficulties in developing an AIDS vaccine, the potential of circumcision as a new weapon against HIV has become even more significant.

But they caution solid evidence is not justification for mass circumcisions.

African health systems are already overburdened. Circumcision requires much more planning than, for example, an immunization campaign.

"It's a tricky one, but it's something we're going to have to move on," said Dr. Catherine Hankins, a scientific adviser at UNAIDS.

"Male circumcision is such a sensitive religious and cultural issue that we need to be careful," she said.

Several African countries have already met with U.N. agencies to explore new strategies for increasing circumcision services. Swaziland, for instance, recently experimented with a series of "Circumcision Saturdays," where existing health care facilities, normally closed on weekends, were opened by local doctors to circumcise approximately 40 men a day on certain Saturdays.

Providing circumcisions across Africa would not be the first time surgical procedures have been adopted by public health campaigns.

"Cataract surgeries have been carried out extremely efficiently to prevent blindness worldwide," said Dr. Richard Hayes, an AIDS expert at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. In some places, the cataract surgeries are performed by trained paramedics.

In recent years, the fight against the AIDS pandemic has focused on the provision of lifesaving drugs. The circumcision data gives prevention, rather than treatment, renewed emphasis.

"Treating people with antiretrovirals is completely unsustainable unless we can turn off the tap of infection," said Hayes.

While circumcision may offer new hope, it is not a cure for the epidemic.

"This is an additional tool, and it must not replace other interventions," said de Cock, who added that there will be no push for universal circumcision. "There is no one size fits all solution for AIDS."

Together with the United Nations AIDS agency, WHO is convening a meeting in Switzerland in early March to evaluate the circumcision data, and to decide on the next steps in slowing the AIDS pandemic.

In the Kenyan study, 1,391 circumcised men were compared to 1,393 who were not. And in Uganda, 2,474 circumcised men were compared to 2,522 men who were not. After tracking the men for two years, scientists found that circumcised men were 51 to 60 percent less likely to contract HIV than their uncircumcised counterparts. Since the studies were stopped, all the men have been offered the opportunity to be circumcised. And all the men were warned not to lapse into sexually risky behavior, such as abandoning condom use.

Scientists theorize that women would benefit indirectly from lower HIV prevalence in men, and a study is currently ongoing in Uganda to determine this.

In areas where HIV is spread primarily through heterosexual sex, such as sub-Saharan Africa, male circumcision could theoretically slash the infection rate in half.

It is unknown whether circumcision would be equally effective in concentrated AIDS epidemics, as in Asia and eastern Europe, where AIDS primarily strikes gay men and drug users.


My remarks from theprevious post still apply

[PsyberZombie]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13812938...15773?GT1=8307


There was an article in the WSJ about this subject last year , too =

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=248


.... so why hasn't this news been screamed from the roof·tops by the AIDS / health care community ??

Probably because spreading FEAR of catching the disease is their greatest weapon ; and this news tends to reduce that fear

[bluishballs]

Peregrine Pharamaceuticals is in its first trials of testing a drug that can potentially fight every disease form HIV to cancer to the common flu. What it does is that it targets cell membranes and the immune system attacks the cell. Any cell infected with HIV will show inverted phospholipids, which the drug will target and flag down white blood cells to destroy the cell. Don't know how much the drug will cost, but it seems really promising. After this, the only reason we would be using condoms is to prevent pregnancy. No more HIV or STDs!

For more info search it up yourself. Got this from the OC register a few days ago.

[Daddy Lows]

I didn't know Tom Cruise posted here on Jackson's site. Who knew?

Peace