The Sugar World

[FrackinCylons]

Asking 1.2k a month for 4-5 dates. Fair enough if she is for real. Seemed sweet and nice, but did not pursue.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...1-000fe500d1b6

She is a scammer insisting on getting a "travel allowance" via Paypal before meeting.

[HollywoodGuy]

Asking 1.2k a month for 4-5 dates. Fair enough if she is for real. Seemed sweet and nice, but did not pursue.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...1-000fe500d1b6

[ShoeBridge]

Right near the tippy top of GPS women on seeking, this one is asking $2 k ppm. Its only her and one other I've ever seen ask for more than $1 k. The top is the $3.5 k girl!

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...6-3e493c35ce61

Thanks to Pimeyes (I pay $30/ month for the subscription), its easy to image search. Her name is Chrislove Augustin.

Escort (can't find the links right now, but I've seen her ads), tik tok star etc.

[BigGuy]

Hello everyone, Last time I was in town about 10 days ago I saw MiaLove11 off of Seeking, she asked for 4, I countered with 3 and she said yes and showed up. She is a lot bigger in person than in the pics.

She was very "street" if you know what I mean, her ghetto accent, her attitude and so forth. I was at the Plaza downtown and she said she usually doesn't "work" downtown.

Because people she knows might see her and that she usually "walks the strip" until she gets a hit on Seeking.

She immediately started to up sale as soon as she got the $, I know I should have known better but little "BIGGUY" was doing the thinking.

Anyway, it cost me 3 for an uninspired HJ while topless and nothing else, wanted 3 more just to BBBJ.

I hope this helps you guys not to make the mistake I did, I'll attach the link, let me know if it doesn't work.

Good luck to all, BIGGUY.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...a-656667c620d5

[Dkayz]

I've never gotten a single girl from anywhere in the US, even bumfuck Greenville SC, to agree to 300 for a dinner and fuck. The lowest I've ever paid is 500. This is due to three reasons:

Firstly, I'm 300 pounds and Asian, so the girls know the only thing that isn't phat is my cock.

Secondly, I only hit up Caucasian / white Latina girls age 18-30 that have bodies like Kendal Jenner. No "average" body 41 yo for me.

Thirdly, I don't pay for a 1 hour bedroom date with CFS. If I wanted that, I'd hit up Tryst. I pay for dinner dates where I can actually talk to someone that hopefully has a brain and can hold a conversation. I do this because it lets me showcase my humor and hopefully make up a little bit for my looks, get some drinks in them to ease their nerves, and also to gauge how much I want to fuck them. I've had girls show up and let them walk after dinner cause they weren't my type in person. Sometimes I take care of their Uber if they've been very nice and a pleasure to talk to, other times I tell them to get lost if they've been entitled c you and t s the entire time. Once we get to the bedroom, I only hit raw. Bare sex has spoiled me, I can't nut or even keep it up with a condom anymore. If you want tips on STD / pregnancy prevention, let me know. No, my methods aren't 100% fool proof, but neither is a condom. Multiple hours, multiple rounds with cuddling in between.

My Vegas PPM's range from 500 to 2 k. The higher the amount, the hotter they have to be, the longer they have to stay, and the better they have to perform in bed. The 2 k girl is a tatted OF star with DD's and a BBL. I don't actually like the BBL but it's whatever, still very hot. Every date, I go balls deep in her ass, nut in whatever hole I want, and she stays from 6 PM dinner until I'm literally falling asleep, usually 12-1 AM. She's also hilarious and responds promptly to texts, never leaves me on read. Basically a kinky girlfriend without the commitment. Hopefully one day I can get a referral to some of the hot girls she makes OF content with, but still waiting to feel out that vibe.

Your results may vary. If you're a fit white or black dude and have game, I'm sure you could knock a few hundred off my PPM rates. I've heard of dudes getting a girl to come over for a $300 date and they end up sleeping the night, give them a nice protein shake in the morning. Best of luck.

This is essentially why I haven't enjoyed trying SA in the DC metro area. I got too spoiled with my college towns where 300 was the norm up until maybe 2 years ago. 200-300 was average for hot college chicks and would usually include dinner and playtime. Had plenty that would stay over for the night if I wanted them to. And out of all the girls I had on SA I would say that at least 90% were bare. I'm also one of those guys that has found multiple girls for free off SA as well, or those that would turn to being free and I would just take them out to eat occasionally plus listen to them vent about college life and shit.

Maybe I'll start being more into SA again one day, but for now I just don't see the point in paying over 350 for pussy the majority of the time.

[WhiteSun777]

Here's my "I'm NOT a man" method where I asked for ppm vs telling them what I'm offering. Just a few but that was expected.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...f5b9e795e0c6f8

$500 ppm haven't setup anything yet but plan to.

https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/...0a34b63c988714

$1000 ppm MINIMUM and MAYBE more depends on time spent. No thank you!

I'll report more as I have them.

[Icarus486]

Please do, I'm interested in if she's legit but she's been flaky with me as well. Probably just hard to get her pinned down to any amount of predictable schedule.

I did end up meeting with her but in retrospect probably shouldn't have bothered. I'm not convinced that's her in the pics unless she is extremely good at makeup or more likely, uses filters. Body wise she is fairly tall but very thin with wide shoulders, narrow hips, and no tits. The pics she has up of her body are very misleading.

She also has no car and lives in a sketchy area near MLK Blvd so you will need to Uber her to you or pick her up. For a $500 ppm, the sex was not worth it IMO and I would not repeat.

[ShoeBridge]

I've been using Seeking for a while, and didn't think to check that on this site until recently. Thanks for the info (Mr Mister. I'll drop Cartier a line, and Tjs8488 - I tried the chunky one you said, and yes she's good, but I think she's getting even heavier quickly). I block women I've made contact with (makes it harder for them to report me) so I don't have url's to hand for specific girls. I'll start saving those. That said, I've messaged a ton, and met 15+ so can share some of my data to start.

$500 seems the most solid / safe starting ppm for someone I like.

$400 for someone I just want to smash.

$700 for a hottie who probably wants $1 k, and I'm reaching.

Some are offended by $500, and I've now seen a range from $400-$3 k, with quite a few being $1 k and literally only two above that at $2 k and $3 k.

So there's probably a chunk at $300-500, another few trying to push $700's, a bunch dead set on $1 k and a few GPS girls who occasionally command over $1 k. Even the $3 k girl offered to meet for $1 k but a shorter time (probably an hour) - I passed.

Younger, more "hood" looking girls I offer $500 and most say yes to a traditional sugar arrangement.

Girls I just want to smash I'll offer $400 and sometimes it works. I've never tried $300, but I will having seen it here. This is usually: drink in a bar, upstairs to the hotel room.

For a super hot girl I want to actually GFE / Sugar I occasionally offer $700 (and dinner) and the ones that want $1 k are not offended by it, so some haggling can occur.

Dates then range in time from:

$400-500 - One time girls. M&G (30-60 minutes, drinks), Hotel Room (2 hours, 2 pops).

$500-700 - Sugar girls. Coffee M&G platonic, Second is the date. Dinner (60-90 minutes), Hotel (2-3 hours, 2 pops).

On a price per pop, or price per hour I don't mind paying more as a headline figure. I like to take my time, and prefer sex the 2nd or 3rd time with someone vs just 1 night stands. Usually I'm expecting a lot of GFE, DFK, BBBJ, CFS. With some regulars or some that I know I'll only see once I'm pushing for BBFS, CIM, CIP. Rimming, ball sucking and anal are a plus, but much less common. And usually as long as it really feels GFE I don't care as much.

[FourSeasons2]

I think asking the girl her ppm rate is the wrong way to go about this, especially an SA girl.

You're supposed to be the Man. Tell her upfront what you're offering and how long you want them to stay with you. They can say yes, no, or counter.

I'm never paying 500 for a girl. It's not worth it. I'd rather jerk off and use the 500 to buy things for myself.

Good advise! I had had few dates fall through and thought. Well no loss, I saved all the money so I can now just use it for something else I want.

That being said, I met a really hott SB I was trying to have fun with (a couple years ago). We met for lunch (I bought her meal but did not give her any extra $). She told me she needed $500, would play for a couple hrs and was open to BBBJ with swallow, condom for FS, no greek. At that time I told her no because I was paying $250-300 for dates. I still know her and chat her up sometimes about playing for the $500 but she now has a regular job and has gotten out of the SB game. Essentially I lost my opportunity with her and regret it.

[Mister Mr]

I've never gotten a single girl from anywhere in the US, even bumfuck Greenville SC, to agree to 300 for a dinner and fuck. The lowest I've ever paid is 500. This is due to three reasons:

Firstly, I'm 300 pounds and Asian, so the girls know the only thing that isn't phat is my cock.

Secondly, I only hit up Caucasian / white Latina girls age 18-30 that have bodies like Kendal Jenner. No "average" body 41 yo for me.

Thirdly, I don't pay for a 1 hour bedroom date with CFS. If I wanted that, I'd hit up Tryst. I pay for dinner dates where I can actually talk to someone that hopefully has a brain and can hold a conversation. I do this because it lets me showcase my humor and hopefully make up a little bit for my looks, get some drinks in them to ease their nerves, and also to gauge how much I want to fuck them. I've had girls show up and let them walk after dinner cause they weren't my type in person. Sometimes I take care of their Uber if they've been very nice and a pleasure to talk to, other times I tell them to get lost if they've been entitled c you and t s the entire time. Once we get to the bedroom, I only hit raw. Bare sex has spoiled me, I can't nut or even keep it up with a condom anymore. If you want tips on STD / pregnancy prevention, let me know. No, my methods aren't 100% fool proof, but neither is a condom. Multiple hours, multiple rounds with cuddling in between.

My Vegas PPM's range from 500 to 2 k. The higher the amount, the hotter they have to be, the longer they have to stay, and the better they have to perform in bed. The 2 k girl is a tatted OF star with DD's and a BBL. I don't actually like the BBL but it's whatever, still very hot. Every date, I go balls deep in her ass, nut in whatever hole I want, and she stays from 6 PM dinner until I'm literally falling asleep, usually 12-1 AM. She's also hilarious and responds promptly to texts, never leaves me on read. Basically a kinky girlfriend without the commitment. Hopefully one day I can get a referral to some of the hot girls she makes OF content with, but still waiting to feel out that vibe.

Your results may vary. If you're a fit white or black dude and have game, I'm sure you could knock a few hundred off my PPM rates. I've heard of dudes getting a girl to come over for a $300 date and they end up sleeping the night, give them a nice protein shake in the morning. Best of luck.

I have been lucky enough to see multiple girls for $2-300 who stay the night and all I did prior was coffee or dessert. However, most girls are asking $500-$1500. A lot of them want $200-$400 just to show up to dinner. I refuse to do that. It's really just a numbers game. Hit up as many as you're interested in and one of them will stick.

[HollywoodGuy]

I've never gotten a single girl from anywhere in the US, even bumfuck Greenville SC, to agree to 300 for a dinner and fuck. The lowest I've ever paid is 500. This is due to three reasons:

Great report, love to see some more like this.

[Mcsylv]

I've never gotten a single girl from anywhere in the US, even bumfuck Greenville SC, to agree to 300 for a dinner and fuck. The lowest I've ever paid is 500. This is due to three reasons:

Firstly, I'm 300 pounds and Asian, so the girls know the only thing that isn't phat is my cock.

Secondly, I only hit up Caucasian / white Latina girls age 18-30 that have bodies like Kendal Jenner. No "average" body 41 yo for me.

Thirdly, I don't pay for a 1 hour bedroom date with CFS. If I wanted that, I'd hit up Tryst. I pay for dinner dates where I can actually talk to someone that hopefully has a brain and can hold a conversation. I do this because it lets me showcase my humor and hopefully make up a little bit for my looks, get some drinks in them to ease their nerves, and also to gauge how much I want to fuck them. I've had girls show up and let them walk after dinner cause they weren't my type in person. Sometimes I take care of their Uber if they've been very nice and a pleasure to talk to, other times I tell them to get lost if they've been entitled c you and t s the entire time. Once we get to the bedroom, I only hit raw. Bare sex has spoiled me, I can't nut or even keep it up with a condom anymore. If you want tips on STD / pregnancy prevention, let me know. No, my methods aren't 100% fool proof, but neither is a condom. Multiple hours, multiple rounds with cuddling in between.

My Vegas PPM's range from 500 to 2 k. The higher the amount, the hotter they have to be, the longer they have to stay, and the better they have to perform in bed. The 2 k girl is a tatted OF star with DD's and a BBL. I don't actually like the BBL but it's whatever, still very hot. Every date, I go balls deep in her ass, nut in whatever hole I want, and she stays from 6 PM dinner until I'm literally falling asleep, usually 12-1 AM. She's also hilarious and responds promptly to texts, never leaves me on read. Basically a kinky girlfriend without the commitment. Hopefully one day I can get a referral to some of the hot girls she makes OF content with, but still waiting to feel out that vibe.

Your results may vary. If you're a fit white or black dude and have game, I'm sure you could knock a few hundred off my PPM rates. I've heard of dudes getting a girl to come over for a $300 date and they end up sleeping the night, give them a nice protein shake in the morning. Best of luck.

[HollywoodGuy]

I've done this method before, chatting up the girl, then slowly get to the part where you tell her what you're looking for, etc. Just doesn't work for me (anymore) I felt this method you're dumping a lot of time into it.

These girls are basically all the same. Create some copy and paste information / replies. No time wasted at all. The Q & A is always the same. I have like maybe 5 or 6 pat explanations and replies I have been using for 15 years. The game is the same, only the price has changed. Sadly.

[WhiteSun777]

I think asking the girl her ppm rate is the wrong way to go about this, especially an SA girl.

You're supposed to be the Man. Tell her upfront what you're offering and how long you want them to stay with you. They can say yes, no, or counter.

If you don't establish some sort of rapport first and just ask for her rate she's going to give you a high number. If she says a thousand, you're going to feel dumb countering with 300, so just tell her from the start that you normally do 300 ppm.

I'm never paying 500 for a girl. It's not worth it. I'd rather jerk off and use the 500 to buy things for myself.

I've done this method before, chatting up the girl, then slowly get to the part where you tell her what you're looking for, etc. Just doesn't work for me (anymore) I felt this method you're dumping a lot of time into it.

My "I'm NOT a man" method is straight up ask her what her ppm is. Some get mad and tells me they don't do ppm, fine, I move on. Some will give me a # (via text) and some just ignore me. That's fine. And I won't feel DUMB if she tells me 1 k. I just tell her "Oh I'll let you know" which is never.

So thank you for your input but I'll keep on doing how I'm doing it now. And agreed, you can buy a LOT of nice things for yourself and save a lot of $$$ by whacking off. As long as you're happy.

[HollywoodGuy]

I think asking the girl her ppm rate is the wrong way to go about this, especially an SA girl.

You're supposed to be the Man. Tell her upfront what you're offering and how long you want them to stay with you. They can say yes, no, or counter.

If you don't establish some sort of rapport first and just ask for her rate she's going to give you a high number. If she says a thousand, you're going to feel dumb countering with 300, so just tell her from the start that you normally do 300 ppm.

I'm never paying 500 for a girl. It's not worth it. I'd rather jerk off and use the 500 to buy things for myself.

This is my MO 90% of the time.

1 - establish rapport.

2 - let her know you are an experienced sd.

3 - let her know some guys over pay but you don't.

4 - give her an idea of your allowance amount and the time expected of her.

Wait for response.

5 - give her the exact amount.