Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[Watfiv]

I'm not a senior member, but I have been engaging in this hobby for a few years. I'm ok with this. Seniority here indicates a certain degree of trust, and I understand that. It widens access to intelligence on providers with more stringent screening requirements. In fact, I'd guess useful intelligence in general increases, and so it becomes desirable.

That said, the whole concept of a web of trust relies on the trustworthiness of its individual members. It's important to realize that these activities are not, strictly speaking, legal. I do not believe this is just, but it's true regardless. There can be legal, monetary, societal, familial, and personal consequences for providers and those that frequent them. A non-comprehensive list of bad things that can happen:

1. You can be ripped off, robbed, beaten, and even killed.

2. You can be arrested, prosecuted, incarcerated.

3. You can be shunned and mocked.

4. You can lose or be denied employment.

5. You can damage and / or lose personal relationships.

6. You can contract disease (s).

7. You can be burgled, or otherwise experience loss of property.

Etc.

This being the case, I would hope that people take seriously the decision to let others into their confidence, to vet / vouch for others, and screen accordingly. Everyone starts somewhere, but be careful with who you trust. And if you are new, don't take it personally when people don't trust you. They don't know you, and shouldn't trust you, nor you them.

That said, just because you are not a senior member within this particular circle, doesn't mean you are helpless. Learn to gather your own actionable intelligence and make your own risk / reward determinations. Utilize open source intelligence (OSINT) to vet particular providers. Learn to think like those who would cause you trouble, and act accordingly. Those who want to rob you, arrest you, catch you cheating, or whatever have particular resources, capabilities, and methods. Learn a little bit about physical surveillance.

Separate your personal and hobby and life. Use a burner phone, google voice, or some other VOIP provider. Learn from the mistakes of others. Develop your own OPSEC guidelines: google grugq OPSEC and read.

At the end of the day, bad things can still happen to you, but consider this: Is it more likely for good things to happen to someone who wings it, and is lucky, or for bad things to happen to someone who takes precautions and is unlucky?

Be safe.

[MilfMan865]

Anyone tried this contraption?

https://scroguard.com/how-it-works

The early order period for these allowed you to buy one, get one free. Not willing to admit to trying it with a trusted female companion with a good sense of humor, but that hole for which you insert yourself is not very large as you'd hope and can cause constriction and friction (with the latex on latex), it feels like you're wearing a thong (they should have at least made boxer briefs), the classic latex smell is strong so Polyurethane as an alternative would be nice, anyone over a 38 inch waist may notice a really tight fit, and unless you're a Ken doll. You won't have room for your nuts. The unexpected issue is that the apparatus could make sounds of flatulence when in the K9 position (my friend assured me that it wasn't her). Claims of reusable and washable, and no claims that it actually prevents the spread of STIs (must go through FDA analysis like condoms have to). Sometimes, you just have to acknowledge that some just don't have the heart to hook up with random females. The reusable aspect was not a selling point for me (get the price down enough to just throw it away), so the trial ones have been long gone.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[Rrayr]

Anyone tried this contraption?

https://scroguard.com/how-it-works

[Whitney31]

I've been in this line of work for 3 yrs now. Not on drugs, no arrest record. Made many friends. Built a solid reputation for myself. I stay in my little bubble and keep to myself. I accepted 2 new clients today because I felt comfortable with them. If you are a newbie that has only seen one provider and is addiment about that provider, it concerns me. I'm not comfortable with that. When you can show me you have partaken with other providers, I will take you serious. Heck I even encourage my clients to partake with the safe girls. So, with that being said, I have no problem with new hobbyist, just being me. Xoxo Whitney.

[Bluford]

Guys,

This person incorrectly defines worth.

What something is worth is always about what one person is willing to pay for it and what one person is willing to sell it for. That is just economics.

Well, this might be true in fairy land but not in the real world. Two components exist, suppliers and demanders. First, the supplier could supply be making the product available at price A all day long. However, this does not make worth. The second component is demand, which is the most important. Think, the suppliers cannot wish themselves more customers. Demand is composed of those willing AND capable of paying a particular price, Price be. Reread the previous sentence. You may be willing to pay Price X for a Ferrari, but snow will fall in hell before owning the car, if you uncapable of providing the monies. Until the supplier matches demand Price be, no exchange will be made. Clearly, the product is being rented. Rent is the replacement cost. When both supplier and demander meet, price is established. Remember the golden rule. He who hath the gold makes the rules.

Sorry Throttle you are way off track.

You don't go into Ruth's Chris and ask for a Mcdouble cheeseburger and expect to pay Mcdonalds price for it. There are plenty of providers that advertise QV or even BJ for discounted rates and that is were you need to look. Instead your trying to negotiate a QV from a provider that doesn't want to do that. I don't know about all the girls, but for some a BBBJ is way more involved / personal / difficult then a FS visit where they lay down or take a ride and some of them even enjoy FS as to were they don't enjoy BBBJ. I don't know what you do for a living but it pisses me off when a client tries to figure out what I should make for giving up my time and my life to do what I do. I give them a price and I understand that negotiation is part of all our lives I don't expect to be bad mouthed if we can't agree. What something is worth is always about what one person is willing to pay for it and what one person is willing to sell it for. That is just economics. JMTC.

[TruckerCock65]

I am a newbie that has been to see the wonderful luscious lexie, and she did screen me very well. When she was done screening me I felt safe with her as she was with me. Her screening process is not like trying to break into fort knox, but you will feel that you and what she knows are both very safe. She should be applauded for giving newbies a chance. I have run into a couple ladies that flat out won't give regular members a chance because we are new. (Too Bad). My hat goes off to Lexie! And she is in no way wrong for giving the newbies a shot. Thanks TC65.

We all were newbies at one point in time. So by this provider accepting a newbie here and there it is wrong? I didn't hear Lexie say she still isn't screening them just that she is giving them a chance to see a quality provider. But anyways who are we to judge how someone screens and for that matter do any of us actually know how extensive and screening process for newbies truly is? Becoming a senior isn't to difficult thing to achieve post from time to time and wait 6-12 months. Alas just because you have "senior" memebet doesn't automatically imply you are safe and vetted.

Just my opinion. As always play safe gentlemen.

[Lexie]

I posted that because somebody sent me a PM that I am white knighting for newbies and this is not true! I have plenty of reviews from Sr. Members and my screening process is a lot stronger for a newbie, I screen everyone. Sr. And regular alike. It is my responsibility to protect myself and the friends that come to see me, so I will continue to screen newbies and seniors alike. I will be accepting of all members! I hold myself to a higher standard, and I expect that my friends do also. I was just stating I like all our wonderful board member friends that come to visit with me. Please friends play and stay safe! Your friend Luscious Lexie.

We all were newbies at one point in time. So by this provider accepting a newbie here and there it is wrong? I didn't hear Lexie say she still isn't screening them just that she is giving them a chance to see a quality provider. But anyways who are we to judge how someone screens and for that matter do any of us actually know how extensive and screening process for newbies truly is? Becoming a senior isn't to difficult thing to achieve post from time to time and wait 6-12 months. Alas just because you have "senior" memebet doesn't automatically imply you are safe and vetted.

Just my opinion. As always play safe gentlemen.

[Bezee2012]

I was thinking the same thing. I likened that to a situation where a bar should only allow those 21 and up and someone getting on camera and saying, "I know that you got to be 21 to get in, but I let that 18 year old in because he was legally an adult and seemed cool". Sounds more like a lapse in the screening process than anything else. Everyone has a certain level of risk tolerance and it looks like we've observed an instance where shortcuts may have been by a provider to circumvent the process. As in most aspects of life, being a Sr Member isn't a fool proof process, but it should be a minimum requirement in terms of screening. Plenty of anecdotal evidence for newbies to provide reviews of providers they haven't seen,., providers shouldn't get "cool points" for helping out dudes who haven't earned their stripes.

You can't help (or save) them all. The makings of White Knighting by a provider. Stay tuned on that.

Be safe,

Milfman.

We all were newbies at one point in time. So by this provider accepting a newbie here and there it is wrong? I didn't hear Lexie say she still isn't screening them just that she is giving them a chance to see a quality provider. But anyways who are we to judge how someone screens and for that matter do any of us actually know how extensive and screening process for newbies truly is? Becoming a senior isn't to difficult thing to achieve post from time to time and wait 6-12 months. Alas just because you have "senior" memebet doesn't automatically imply you are safe and vetted.

Just my opinion. As always play safe gentlemen.

[Whitney31]

I was thinking the same thing. I likened that to a situation where a bar should only allow those 21 and up and someone getting on camera and saying, "I know that you got to be 21 to get in, but I let that 18 year old in because he was legally an adult and seemed cool". Sounds more like a lapse in the screening process than anything else. Everyone has a certain level of risk tolerance and it looks like we've observed an instance where shortcuts may have been by a provider to circumvent the process. As in most aspects of life, being a Sr Member isn't a fool proof process, but it should be a minimum requirement in terms of screening. Plenty of anecdotal evidence for newbies to provide reviews of providers they haven't seen,., providers shouldn't get "cool points" for helping out dudes who haven't earned their stripes.

You can't help (or save) them all. The makings of White Knighting by a provider. Stay tuned on that.

Be safe,

Milfman.

I personally agree. Protection and safety is number 1 when it comes to me. I have a system that has kept me safe for 3 yrs now. It just adds to validation if you are a senior member. You are taken more serious.

[MilfMan865]

There are reasons why it takes so long to become a Sr. Member on this forum. Intel can be a double (hell I say triple) edged sword in this hobby. Reward, con and slammer. Be careful what you wish for. This is not Facebook, but unfortunately some treat it as such.

Respectfully.

Ray.

I was thinking the same thing. I likened that to a situation where a bar should only allow those 21 and up and someone getting on camera and saying, "I know that you got to be 21 to get in, but I let that 18 year old in because he was legally an adult and seemed cool". Sounds more like a lapse in the screening process than anything else. Everyone has a certain level of risk tolerance and it looks like we've observed an instance where shortcuts may have been by a provider to circumvent the process. As in most aspects of life, being a Sr Member isn't a fool proof process, but it should be a minimum requirement in terms of screening. Plenty of anecdotal evidence for newbies to provide reviews of providers they haven't seen,., providers shouldn't get "cool points" for helping out dudes who haven't earned their stripes.

How are they going to move up the board and become Sr. Trusted members without us ladies giving them a chance.

You can't help (or save) them all. The makings of White Knighting by a provider. Stay tuned on that.

Be safe,

Milfman.

[Rrayr]

I understand that it takes a while to become a Sr. Member, so I have been giving some regular members a chance to prove themselves. It has proven to be a good idea. I used to only see Sr. Trusted members, then it got me thinking. How are they going to move up the board and become Sr. Trusted members without us ladies giving them a chance. They rely on this board with reviews to keep them safe and so do we. All members of this board are welcome to see me. Luvs Luscious Lexie!

There are reasons why it takes so long to become a Sr. Member on this forum. Intel can be a double (hell I say triple) edged sword in this hobby. Reward, con and slammer. Be careful what you wish for. This is not Facebook, but unfortunately some treat it as such.

Respectfully.

Ray.

[Lexie]

I understand that it takes a while to become a Sr. Member, so I have been giving some regular members a chance to prove themselves. It has proven to be a good idea. I used to only see Sr. Trusted members, then it got me thinking. How are they going to move up the board and become Sr. Trusted members without us ladies giving them a chance. They rely on this board with reviews to keep them safe and so do we. All members of this board are welcome to see me. Luvs Luscious Lexie!

[KnoxYankee]

I have been away from this forum and hobby for awhile, but one thing still remains there is always going to be that small minority of members who like to be argumentative and disagreeable as it's in their nature. Some may say in stronger terms an all around the-bag.

If you encounter such a person in this forum rather than let them raise your blood pressure, get aggravated and fire off an angry response to their report. It's far more productive to just click on their profile and click Add to Ignore List. That way you don't have to read their comments anymore.

INMHO this is a much better solution then channeling all your energy into getting pissed off and instead saving it for a much more productive purpose that I am sure many can think of in relation to this hobby.

What I meant to say was if somebody in your opinion is being a the-bag just add them to your ignore list and save yourself the wasted energy from getting agitated.

I do not have the ability to edit my posts.

[KnoxYankee]

I have been away from this forum and hobby for awhile, but one thing still remains there is always going to be that small minority of members who like to be argumentative and disagreeable as it's in their nature. Some may say in stronger terms an all around the-bag.

If you encounter such a person in this forum rather than let them raise your blood pressure, get aggravated and fire off an angry response to their report. It's far more productive to just click on their profile and click Add to Ignore List. That way you don't have to read their comments anymore.

INMHO this is a much better solution then channeling all your energy into getting pissed off and instead saving it for a much more productive purpose that I am sure many can think of in relation to this hobby.

[SubDude69]

A Carrot Top look-alike is in town:

http://knoxville.backpage.com/Female...n-fun/16025983

Stay safe,

Milfman.

I mean, I appreciate honesty and self-confidence, but man I don't know what to think about that! LOL.