Sugar Babies

**DrSummer** · 11-26-19 22:49

I have done it with few girls recently. But most will not take it well. You can do it if you know for sure she is in to you and she sees you as a long term potential. I usually tell them very early on (before the first FC visit) the allowance is dependent on the time we spent. My first date is usually at a hotel room. So, the first date I intentionally drag it on. Dinner, talk etc and at least 2 to 3 hours in FC. Then I give a higher rate. Second time I tell her that I want a short visit at my house and tell her upfront the allowance is lower due to shorter time. Some do accept that. From third time on they will accept the lower rate. Buy the third time she is very much comfortable with you and will hang out for a longer time without fussing about lower rate. I do give occasional gifts such as perfume, dresses, beauty gift cards etc to keep the interest going. My usual rate is 200 per meet and highest is 300. I have successfully converted 300 to 200 and 200 to 150 this way. The key is to convince them the lower rate is not due to her looks or performance just because you hang out for a shorter time. Telling them upfront before the first date definitely helps.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

Originally Posted by Chocophile [View Original Post]

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I've also thought that it makes sense to offer a higher rate for the first meet. The uncertainty and risk is higher, especially for an inexperienced SB, and so you may need extra inducement, but a lower rate for repeat visits. But I've never successfully finessed a transition to lower rates without triggering significant resistance and drama. How do you manage that? Is it part of your initial proposal?

**Chocophile** · 11-26-19 21:46

" It takes ALOT of reaches. But when you get a good one. They will often adjust to less allowance once they know you will be around for awhile. . ok. I'm ready for all nay sayers. LOL. ".

I've also thought that it makes sense to offer a higher rate for the first meet. The uncertainty and risk is higher, especially for an inexperienced SB, and so you may need extra inducement, but a lower rate for repeat visits. But I've never successfully finessed a transition to lower rates without triggering significant resistance and drama. How do you manage that? Is it part of your initial proposal?

**Zomby** · 11-26-19 16:35

Originally Posted by Golf9979 [View Original Post]

You assume they read your profile! Haha!

My other gripes are after I send a brief message saying what I'm looking for I get a "hey" or "yes" and nothing more. Today I asked a girl I've been messaging with if I could text her. She responded with only "yes" argh!

When I was still active and could respond, that was often the gist of my response: "Did you *read* my profile?" 😳.

**Dash** · 11-26-19 11:46

Originally Posted by LongTimeLurk [View Original Post]

Just a quick list of some I have seen over the last year that's been online recently:

https://www.seeking.com/member/d11b2...7-c6a046ba5c32

Looks just like her pics but a little thicker with short hair. Awesome BBBJ loves women more then men.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ea15a...5-8ac39c6427c3

Ok for a 1 or 2 time deal. She is a little heavy but cute. Reminds me of craigslist MIA.

https://www.seeking.com/member/175bb...9-0f3bbc59ee7d

She was a hard one to crack. Fun but a little on the crazy side. I would advise be cautious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ba7ca...7-dcc8fc71c5b4

She is older than I like so I never got hard up enough to meet her but she was DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/43e1a...3-d547356b16c4

This girl is a freak! I enjoyed her several times. A little weird though on the personality.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1c683...2-098f8143d566

Cute like her pictures but a dead lay and doesn't give BJ.

https://www.seeking.com/member/873a3...b-4b466eb7883d

She has had several different profiles. Talk to several times but never could get her to budge on price. She is DTF but wants and outrageous upfront allowance at first meet when the deal is sealed.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2d475...3-0185dee9c559

DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a2366...1-b96632b1fbb3

No BJ but DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8649f...5-7869672d2155

No BJ but something about her drives me nuts. She is a good lay. Makes a lot of noises most which are probably fake.

Helpful hint. Sugar Babies are not for those that are on a budget. I tend to give $200-$500 per meet depending on the girl plus the cost of the room. It gets expensive quick. For those that low ball with $75 -$100 you scare them off. I hear about it all the time.

Maybe the girls who are online at Seeking have higher expectations / standards.

I'm lurking but I had a sugar baby and an UTR in S. Florida; both were red hot and I paid them both $100; neither one complained.

I met them socially, or "free style" in the parlance, neither of them were online.

As they say YRMV.

I compare the price of pussy to the amount of $ a young female makes at a McJob; therefore $100-$150 is a day or more of her labor.

I recommend therefore "free style".

The other factor may be the relative abundance of pussy; in S. Florida it's amazing, it's crawling with hot girls of various shades and accents working McJobs but hoping to move out the that strip of sand with a nice rich "white daddy" as one said to me.

**LongTimeLurk** · 11-26-19 09:43

Just a quick list of some I have seen over the last year that's been online recently:

https://www.seeking.com/member/d11b2...7-c6a046ba5c32

Looks just like her pics but a little thicker with short hair. Awesome BBBJ loves women more then men.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ea15a...5-8ac39c6427c3

Ok for a 1 or 2 time deal. She is a little heavy but cute. Reminds me of craigslist MIA.

https://www.seeking.com/member/175bb...9-0f3bbc59ee7d

She was a hard one to crack. Fun but a little on the crazy side. I would advise be cautious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ba7ca...7-dcc8fc71c5b4

She is older than I like so I never got hard up enough to meet her but she was DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/43e1a...3-d547356b16c4

This girl is a freak! I enjoyed her several times. A little weird though on the personality.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1c683...2-098f8143d566

Cute like her pictures but a dead lay and doesn't give BJ.

https://www.seeking.com/member/873a3...b-4b466eb7883d

She has had several different profiles. Talk to several times but never could get her to budge on price. She is DTF but wants and outrageous upfront allowance at first meet when the deal is sealed.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2d475...3-0185dee9c559

DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a2366...1-b96632b1fbb3

No BJ but DTF.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8649f...5-7869672d2155

No BJ but something about her drives me nuts. She is a good lay. Makes a lot of noises most which are probably fake.

Helpful hint. Sugar Babies are not for those that are on a budget. I tend to give $200-$500 per meet depending on the girl plus the cost of the room. It gets expensive quick. For those that low ball with $75 -$100 you scare them off. I hear about it all the time.

**LongTimeLurk** · 11-26-19 09:17

I was banned several months back from SA for "soliciting" because I kept reporting fakes and telling SA they need a better screening process. I agree that you have to copy and paste an introduction message to all new girls that pop up. From my experience a lot of the girls posting as 18/19 are not serious about meeting. However I would say out of 20-30 of the new profiles there is one that is serious. I have one now that I have be seeing for a couple of months that's damn near a virgin and we have tried to have sex several times and I can never get her to relax enough to get more than the tip in. Probably going to give up soon. He BJ skills suck too.

Golf out of the ones you posted I would say BBgirl might be the only one that could possibly be real / in Louisville. I always check all pictures and look for architecture that's local to this area. When girls have pictures of beaches and talk about they want walks on the beach it's an instant red flag to me. However I have seen once a girl who posted a picture of her on the beach but also had several pictures with locations around Louisville. Just got to weed them out and no matter what never give any money without meeting.

I have been on Secretbenefits, whatsyourprice, and sugardaddymeet, and all three of them together I don't have the success as I did on SA.

Originally Posted by Golf9979 [View Original Post]

Here are a few I've been messaging with but haven't met. Anyone have any experience with:

Lluuccerro.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d9bdb...1-34628caef1a6

Bbgirl1118.

**Member #6042** · 11-25-19 22:39

Originally Posted by Zomby [View Original Post]

While I totally get why girls want platonic, what I dont get is how they can read my profile, which clearly says no platonic or online only arrangements will be considered, and then favorite me anyway.

You assume they read your profile! Haha!

My other gripes are after I send a brief message saying what I'm looking for I get a "hey" or "yes" and nothing more. Today I asked a girl I've been messaging with if I could text her. She responded with only "yes" argh!

**Zomby** · 11-25-19 21:00

Originally Posted by LikeMike1963 [View Original Post]

Welllll we certainly are likely chasing a lot of the same girls.

Originally Posted by Golf9979 [View Original Post]

Haha! We are definitely in the same hunting grounds. I have a pretty narrow field too! I had the same conversation with babyboo last night. It seems more and more are looking for platonic. I think they just don't get it yet. Some will disappear after a week, the ones that hang around usually end up putting out.

Dang Golf, all but one of those were on my favorites list as well. 🤣.

While I totally get why girls want platonic, what I dont get is how they can read my profile, which clearly says no platonic or online only arrangements will be considered, and then favorite me anyway.

But, my account hasn't been active for a year or more, so I can't tell them to sod off. I only check it just in case an irresistible unicorn comes across it. 🤪.

**Member #6042** · 11-25-19 18:44

Originally Posted by DjangosTigerr [View Original Post]

I have discovered you really need to apply a shotgun strategy with these girls. Talk to as many as you can and realize the one you really want probably isn't going to happen. My profile says NO PLATONIC. THE ONES UNDER 21 usually list that.
Sometimes they read your message and don't apply for weeks. My best success were between girls ages 24 to 29.

I completely agree on the shotgun approach. Unfortunately I'll like the challenge. It costs me sometimes too, but I enjoy it.

**DjangosTigerr** · 11-25-19 17:52

Originally Posted by LikeMike1963 [View Original Post]

Welllll we certainly are likely chasing a lot of the same girls. LOL. I have not had headway really with any of them beyond some text then they drop off the map. So that is unfortunately all I can report. I do have a couple extra notes below if of any assistance. I do tend to reach back out after a week or two as they start to figure the creepers from the real SD types. My approach is not abrupt and when it comes time to discuss allowance I am not on the cheap side. I have had longer term and short term situations. And have a very narrow range of what interests me and am willing to invest time and some funds to get there. It takes ALOT of reaches. But when you get a good one. They will often adjust to less allowance once they know you will be around for awhile. . ok. I'm ready for all nay sayers. LOL.

ONE YOU DID NOT HAVE.

Babyboo.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ff507...2-c4f785687ce6

Yeaaaaah she's a little quirky in appearance. That does fall into my niche sometimes. LOL. We texted a bit and for me at least is definitely only PLATONIC. She has not done this before and I kindly explained that in my 10+ years of sugaring. I never met an SD that only wanted platonic and wished her well. She was friendly.

Happy and safe hunting!!

I have discovered you really need to apply a shotgun strategy with these girls. Talk to as many as you can and realize the one you really want probably isn't going to happen. My profile says NO PLATONIC. THE ONES UNDER 21 usually list that.
Sometimes they read your message and don't apply for weeks. My best success were between girls ages 24 to 29.

**Member #6042** · 11-25-19 15:40

Originally Posted by LikeMike1963 [View Original Post]

Welllll we certainly are likely chasing a lot of the same girls. LOL. I have not had headway really with any of them beyond some text then they drop off the map. So that is unfortunately all I can report. I do have a couple extra notes below if of any assistance. I do tend to reach back out after a week or two as they start to figure the creepers from the real SD types. My approach is not abrupt and when it comes time to discuss allowance I am not on the cheap side. I have had longer term and short term situations. And have a very narrow range of what interests me and am willing to invest time and some funds to get there. It takes ALOT of reaches. But when you get a good one. They will often adjust to less allowance once they know you will be around for awhile. . ok. I'm ready for all nay sayers. LOL.

ONE YOU DID NOT HAVE.

Babyboo.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ff507...2-c4f785687ce6

Yeaaaaah she's a little quirky in appearance. That does fall into my niche sometimes. LOL. We texted a bit and for me at least is definitely only PLATONIC. She has not done this before and I kindly explained that in my 10+ years of sugaring. I never met an SD that only wanted platonic and wished her well. She was friendly.

Happy and safe hunting!!

Haha! We are definitely in the same hunting grounds. I have a pretty narrow field too! I had the same conversation with babyboo last night. It seems more and more are looking for platonic. I think they just don't get it yet. Some will disappear after a week, the ones that hang around usually end up putting out.

I'm not cheap either and I let them know. I actually passed on HeavenlyHaven12 for to reasons, she's not local and she has a kid. In my view, if I'm going to do this and pay top dollar I want a pre-kid body.

Good luck and happy to trade info via pm anytime.

**LikeMike1963** · 11-25-19 15:21

Welllll we certainly are likely chasing a lot of the same girls. LOL. I have not had headway really with any of them beyond some text then they drop off the map. So that is unfortunately all I can report. I do have a couple extra notes below if of any assistance. I do tend to reach back out after a week or two as they start to figure the creepers from the real SD types. My approach is not abrupt and when it comes time to discuss allowance I am not on the cheap side. I have had longer term and short term situations. And have a very narrow range of what interests me and am willing to invest time and some funds to get there. It takes ALOT of reaches. But when you get a good one. They will often adjust to less allowance once they know you will be around for awhile. . ok. I'm ready for all nay sayers. LOL.

Originally Posted by Golf9979 [View Original Post]

Here are a few I've been messaging with but haven't met. Anyone have any experience with: Notes are just to let you know... maybe no one is having luck and they may simply be attention seekers

Lluuccerro.
This chick has YMMMMMY all over her..lol.. messaged a few times. said she would text.. shared number.. crickets..
https://www.seeking.com/member/d9bdb...1-34628caef1a6

Bbgirl1118.
Has not responded to a couple messages I sent

https://www.seeking.com/member/a2fcb...b-7e2d7389e9ce

Rosalieann.
I def have a hankering for this one too.. .. messaged a few times back and forth.. said she wanted help for school.. let her know I could certainly do so.. never really connected again.. on and off a month with sporadic messages
https://www.seeking.com/member/dad26...c-3fe72b6f2cdd

Snb13.
She never responded to me at all .. I have sent 2 messages
https://www.seeking.com/member/e1d65...b-21861fdd796a

HeavenlyHaven12.
Never reached out to her.. likely will not.. understand the attraction but in general falls out of my tiny niche I like.. BTW.. I HATE that I have such a small niche of interest!!!!
https://www.seeking.com/member/5e0d1...a-3b10f8b54e4b

ONE YOU DID NOT HAVE.

Babyboo.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ff507...2-c4f785687ce6

Yeaaaaah she's a little quirky in appearance. That does fall into my niche sometimes. LOL. We texted a bit and for me at least is definitely only PLATONIC. She has not done this before and I kindly explained that in my 10+ years of sugaring. I never met an SD that only wanted platonic and wished her well. She was friendly.

Happy and safe hunting!!

**Member #6042** · 11-24-19 16:15

Here are a few I've been messaging with but haven't met. Anyone have any experience with:

Lluuccerro.

https://www.seeking.com/member/d9bdb...1-34628caef1a6

Bbgirl1118.

https://www.seeking.com/member/a2fcb...b-7e2d7389e9ce

Rosalieann.

https://www.seeking.com/member/dad26...c-3fe72b6f2cdd

Snb13.

https://www.seeking.com/member/e1d65...b-21861fdd796a

HeavenlyHaven12.

https://www.seeking.com/member/5e0d1...a-3b10f8b54e4b

**Aruba1234** · 11-23-19 22:05

Forgot to put out a word of caution on this one from two weeks ago.

Picked her up after work in a rainstorm. Took her to eat a hot meal and we had good conversation.
Much to my surprise When we got to her place, she invited me into her apartment on Manslick. As I looked at the messy and unclean place, I notice some male clothes and shoes. When She took of her jacket and sweat pants unsolicited, because she was hot, I asked if she lived with her bf and she said yes but he won't be home for another 30 minutes. That was my clue to leave politely.

https://www.seeking.com/member/3f50d...8-1d60d3bbe010