Sugarbabies?

[ChickaAmante]

If anyone of you lucky folks, who have their personal SB arrangement and all but would like to have additional trusted sr members to keep your SB's needs met, I just wanted you to know, I am here, LOL.

Ending my shameless plug here by saying that I'm picky myself and been trying my luck on SA.

CA.

[Mbgbe696]

I have found an awesome SB, so I will take my leave and be her now. I will follow and advise if needed. Thanks to all the great men on this site, who have advised me and shared info. All be safe.

[Kystud]

My search for a sugar baby is over I have found one just took a little time and patience but my search for a sugar baby is over thanks to all that shared info and stuff on this subject.

[MisforMaster]

Can I have the sugar daddy website you used?

Out of respect to A2, I won't post it on here, but, if you're interested and need pointers on where to look, you can message me.

MM.

[SoiCowboy100]

Can I have the sugar daddy website you used?

Someone mentioned to me that he wanted to be a Sugar Daddy, but didn't really know where to look or what to look for, so, I wanted to take a few minutes and craft up a guide to those who are interested in this aspect of the lifestyle.

The first thing that you'll really need to look at is the amount of money that you're willing to spend. My general rule of thumb is between 10-20% of your take home pay. I'm a firm believer of two things: 1.) A SugarDaddy isn't a replacement for a job, and 2.) that your ideal SB is going to get a mixture of cash and gifts from you. Let's say you're making 200 K / year, and after Uncle Sam and everyone else gets their cut, you're bringing home $150 K. When you break that down, your SB "Allowance" is 22 K / year (or $1875/ month). I then try to take it a step further and try to split it 60/40 cash / expenses.

I try to avoid monthly arrangements -- it's risky for both you as well as the girl. I've also hit Paypal's Anti Money Laundering (and my Bank's own AML) list twice in the last two months; if I were to do a new sugarbaby it would be on a prepaid debit card that's in her name, and I'd just remotely load it from cash. Paypal will 1099-K you if you're depositing more than 10 K a year in their accounts, and I've been audited before from my SugarBaby 'donations' and it just turned into a headache (for both me as well as the girl).

SugarBabies are generally bad with managing their money -- it's ok to get them the occasional fancy gift, but, it makes much more sense to be practical. In the last year, I've bought laptops for school, car repairs, shoes, gift certificates to Express, and flowers for when they're having a bad day. A coach purse doesn't matter if she can't get her car started to come and see you.

Ultimately, you'll need to figure out what you're really looking for in a girl. If you're just looking for sex, get an escort (seriously, guys, isn't that why most of us are here? Your SugarBaby is going to be anywhere between a FWB and a serious girlfriend. Some will want to meet up once a week, some will want you to spend all week with them. Be honest with yourself, figure out what you're looking for, and go out for it.

Finding SugarBabies isn't that hard -- however, where you find them is usually a good indicator of what's going to happen. I've found out that CraigsList is probably the worst -- I've had girls quote me 6-10 K / month for two dinners and no overnights -- however, your mileage may vary. I've had relatively good luck with the one major Sugar Daddy website and the $60/ month fee netted me 84 different emails / phone numbers, and I ended up meeting / having dinner dates with 22 of them. I'm not saying that I'm George Clooney, but I like to think of myself as a semi-attractive guy, but, generally speaking, paying for more than a month is probably overkill if you're doing it right.

Try to ignore all of the "online" stuff. If all you need is a girl to chat with you via text / skype / kik or whatever, just go to a camsite -- you'll get exactly what you're looking for and generally at a fraction of the cost.

Also, stay away from the blogs and other sources online -- there are plenty of girls online who claim that they're bringing home 20 K a month from two different guys -- or guys who are claiming that they have five or ten SB's: they are gross exaggerations at best, but generally fake or driving traffic to a scummy website the rest of the time.

Don't ever give a girl money or a gift without coming to an agreement. Reiterate that in email and make sure that she's comfortable with everything. If she wants $1000 or however much to meetup to see if you're "real" or "serious," say no and move on to the next one. Don't be that asshole and take one for a "test drive," that makes you a really shitty person, and a scummy SugarDaddy. Ideally, I like to get the arrangement on the table before having the meetup, and try to get a feeling on whatever chemistry is out there as well. If she's not willing to say, or there isn't some chemistry, say no, and move on to the next one. It's perfectly normal to negotiate -- I start low and let her go higher -- I think that's how the game works best. Always meet in public: I've discovered that nice dinners are a great meetup places because she can dress up a bit (and you can gauge how serious she is about it -- if she looks like white trash when you go out someplace nice, you can say no and move on to the next one who would appreciate that a little more), you can grab a wine, and have a nice dinner with great conversation. I try to limit most meetups to a small kiss or something appropriate for the situation. You'll find out that you'll hit it off with some girls, and others not so much -- just like normal dating -- don't say insulting things, and don't take anything to heart; just move on.

If all you want is just sex, find an escort (god knows we have plenty of them in Cincy! But, sex is a part of an arrangement even if you don't like to acknowledge it. Don't expect to jump into bed with her on your first date, and if you want to have fun and good sex, you'll want to be comfortable with each other. Don't schedule it nor make it seem like a formality.

If you have any questions, or need advice, please let me know.

[Mbgbe696]

I'm looking for something similar but it's very hard to find. I'm like you, in the fact that I don't like fat chicks, girls who stay in nasty motels, or drug users. The problem with most girls you'll find on this site is that there lives are incredibly fucked up. They can't rent an apartment or buy a car because their credit is awful and they have no way to prove their income. They typically have criminal records and never plan on getting a real job. Hell, think about the last time you're phone was turned off or you had "phone trouble" LOL. Happens to most providers daily. If that's the case, having an apt, paying utilities and such is way more than most can handle. I do agree that 2. 50 is way too much per visit. Of course the girl will have to be attracted to the daddy and the $ for this to work. Anyway, I'll continue to keep my eyes open for that perfect sugar baby.

I was driving through a town up north that I work in, there was a attractive girl in her 20's begging for money, I stopped and talked to her and told her there was another way for help, I said a sugar daddy / baby relationship and gave her my email. Later that evening she email me and said she was interested. Today we met at a public restaurant and discussed it and agreed to give it a try. What I want to say is there are other ways to meet girls for a SD / SB relationship.

[MisforMaster]

Have not found much game with Craigslist, but SA is like shooting fish in the barrel. Just avoid the GPS's.

I'll second that comment -- SA is unlike anything I've seen in terms of getting women to reach out to you. Unfortunately, I've had girls from Youngstown and Chicago message me, along with girls who say they're from Cincinnati but write that they're ('an hour away') {read: Louisville}.

Unfortunately, it seems like most of the girls on SA don't really understand how these 'arrangements' work. This isn't whatsyourprice or USASG where you're paying for a date, but the minute you give most of these girls the money, the run for the hills never to be seen again.

Oh well, I just write it off as the COGS and move onto the next one.

[EuroInCincy]

I've been fortunate and found a few college students via Craigslist who were willing to enter an SB / SD relationship on a per-meeting basis.

Have not found much game with Craigslist, but SA is like shooting fish in the barrel. Just avoid the GPS's.

[Zeotch2]

I am a older gentleman looking for a sugar baby relationship looking for one lady to spoil and see regular if this interest anyone please message me.

I've been fortunate and found a few college students via Craigslist who were willing to enter an SB / SD relationship on a per-meeting basis.

[Kystud]

I am a older gentleman looking for a sugar baby relationship looking for one lady to spoil and see regular if this interest anyone please message me.

[Dr Kenneth W]

Fellow mongers, a friend recently decided to experiment with a website dedicated to SB / SD relationships. It was pretty easy to find some ladies in need of help with bills. He found a lady in Western Hills that was so appreciative for a few bucks for car insurance that she let him abuse her mouth for a BBBJCIM. Now this lady is not going to win any beauty contests, but she does have a nice rack and is clean and some may even find her attractive if they are in to long hair and curves. She is mid 30's. She is willing to share pics. Her mouth was very soft and she could deep throat pretty well apparently, and the boys also were not left out of the action. She was willing to invite him over to her apartment, but he opted to drive to a large nearby park and have her go to town in the back seat. His favorite part was how she did not object to him bouncing her head up and down on his shaft like a basketball, and he is above average girth and length. She gagged a couple of times but my friend likes that. My friend believes that she is willing to be a CFS girl, because she does like to talk about how kinky she is, but he just wanted to abuse her mouth.

He received direct permission today to share digits because she could use some more help on some projects. Trusted seniors, if you are interested in the UTR types and are like my friend you can PM me for digits.

[DickHerDown]

Thanks. This is a great topic that we need more information about.

Here is my situation: I *am* looking for sex, not a quasi-girlfriend. While the quality of escorts has improved in recent years, I have high-end tastes. I'm really only interested in around 20% of the ladies who show up on USAG. I don't like rough types, middle-aged women, or overweights. I don't like incalls in sketchy parts of town. That weeds out a lot of the escorts for me.

I'm also reasonably good looking and fit, without being George Clooney. I'm in my mid-40's, far too old to be "boyfriend material" for most of these ladies.

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

There are many variables here, of course, but a sugar baby should not involve a monumental amount of money. Keep in mind, this is Gen why we're talking about, the "hook up" generation. Be polite and be a gentleman, but don't even think about promising someone a monthly allowance. (I always go pay-per-visit.).

My observation: over half of the women join Seeking Arrangements with unrealistic expectations, and end up dropping out in a few weeks or months. But there are definitely women who are willing to deal, who have fewer lifestyle issues and less mileage than the typical Backpage escort.

SBs are also *legal* I should add. This makes a huge difference to me.

I'm looking for something similar but it's very hard to find. I'm like you, in the fact that I don't like fat chicks, girls who stay in nasty motels, or drug users. The problem with most girls you'll find on this site is that there lives are incredibly fucked up. They can't rent an apartment or buy a car because their credit is awful and they have no way to prove their income. They typically have criminal records and never plan on getting a real job. Hell, think about the last time you're phone was turned off or you had "phone trouble" LOL. Happens to most providers daily. If that's the case, having an apt, paying utilities and such is way more than most can handle. I do agree that 2. 50 is way too much per visit. Of course the girl will have to be attracted to the daddy and the $ for this to work. Anyway, I'll continue to keep my eyes open for that perfect sugar baby.

[Cheech1]

Personally, I think the best way is to find a girl who will give you the time you ask for in return for you paying certain bills. Like the rent, utilities, and keeping the apartment stocked with food. Her apartment. Keep the lease in her name, the utilities in her name. So you have a basic expense of maybe a grand or $1200 a month. After that it becomes a matter of reward for better performance. So maybe you see her twice a week for the basic expense you are laying out. If she takes care of business, get her gift cards to buy clothes. Stock the place with some good liquor. A little spending cash. But, keep track. Is the liquor all gone when you stop by? Does she have new clothes to account for what you gave her? The point is you have some control over what's going on. Sure she can see other guys and make extra money. But, is she keeping clean? Is she always available for your pleasure, usually with notice?

Now, if she's not walking the walk, you can exercise your control. Stop paying the electric, the gas, the rent. The point is to keep control of what you're doing, not that you have her on a leash, but that you get what you're paying for.

Cheech.

[HollywoodGuy]

Thanks. This is a great topic that we need more information about.

Here is my situation: I *am* looking for sex, not a quasi-girlfriend. While the quality of escorts has improved in recent years, I have high-end tastes. I'm really only interested in around 20% of the ladies who show up on USAG. I don't like rough types, middle-aged women, or overweights. I don't like incalls in sketchy parts of town. That weeds out a lot of the escorts for me.

I'm also reasonably good looking and fit, without being George Clooney. I'm in my mid-40's, far too old to be "boyfriend material" for most of these ladies.

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

There are many variables here, of course, but a sugar baby should not involve a monumental amount of money. Keep in mind, this is Gen why we're talking about, the "hook up" generation. Be polite and be a gentleman, but don't even think about promising someone a monthly allowance. (I always go pay-per-visit.).

My observation: over half of the women join Seeking Arrangements with unrealistic expectations, and end up dropping out in a few weeks or months. But there are definitely women who are willing to deal, who have fewer lifestyle issues and less mileage than the typical Backpage escort.

SBs are also *legal* I should add. This makes a huge difference to me.

How about $ per meet? Any girl will fuck you $$.5. But only a girl that is really into you (or desperate) will take the $. Either way you win.

[MisforMaster]

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

It's been my experience that if you're back to per-meeting math, you're going to get girls who flake out on you a lot sooner than the weekly / monthly girls or girls who have drug problems. I'm not going to name names, but I've had a few girls in the last year indicate that they're interested in exploring a different kind of arrangement, only to discover that their priorities involve Heroin and a needle.