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[Chupacabra]

Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.

Thanks HG. It seems like SA is over the hill. I'll either have to get better with social media or just stick to the true pros.

[UnknownSD]

I don't think that lore about OF is correct. My bowl buddy, Shampoo55, has looked into this. Something like 98% of the girls on OF are making less than $200 / mo. There are a very small few who are making the thousands of $s. That can't be what happened to all the SBs.

I have to agree with SteveTandberg. FarFarAway is incorrect. There are 16 k+ creators on OF that makes over $50 k per year. These 16 k content creators are you 8, 9, 10's. The ones that make $180/ month on average or less are you 5, 6, and 7's and under girls. Check out the source below for the numbers or Google it.

https://www.usesignhouse.com/blog/onlyfans-users#text=Other%20 interesting%20 stats%20 about%20 OnlyFans, median%20 account%20 makes%20%24180%2 Fmo.

[FarFarAway]

IMHO, much more than doubled. Girls that were comfortably under 400 are 1 k or more.

Girls that were 500 are asking 1. 5 k or more.

The false info spread by these SB coaches is deafening.

Onlyfans only makes it worse. I'm guessing that many of the supply of 8+ went the Onlyfans route.

As long as guys will pay for Onlyfans, why would they come back? Make multiples of what they were raking as a SB and not have to put out?

The 6's and below are a different story but who really wants to pay them?

I don't think that lore about OF is correct. My bowl buddy, Shampoo55, has looked into this. Something like 98% of the girls on OF are making less than $200 / mo. There are a very small few who are making the thousands of $s. That can't be what happened to all the SBs.

[DavidTheSancho]

What these girls want nowadays is insane. 1 k for an Asian girl, I'm so close to just saying screw it because she's absolutely my type and gorgeous. She won't budge at all tho. I've had a couple girls accept $400 but they disappear if you don't immediately get them in person before their attention spans goes else where or they have second thoughts about have a new dad. Gah.

[SteveTandberg]

Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.

IMHO, much more than doubled. Girls that were comfortably under 400 are 1 k or more.

Girls that were 500 are asking 1. 5 k or more.

The false info spread by these SB coaches is deafening.

Onlyfans only makes it worse. I'm guessing that many of the supply of 8+ went the Onlyfans route.

As long as guys will pay for Onlyfans, why would they come back? Make multiples of what they were raking as a SB and not have to put out?

The 6's and below are a different story but who really wants to pay them?

[ColoHobbyist]

Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.

Yeah. I can only say that if you've got an income stream that's protected from recession, the next golden age in this will be when the economy eventually tanks. To paraphrase my 90 year old dad "When the economy is crap, there's always some baller with a Lamborghini and a lot of hot ass. ".

[HollywoodGuy]

In my mind, SA is dead and all of the true 8's, 9's and 10's are gone and now all that's left is a bunch of 7's charging wayyy too much for what you get.

Just way way less girls overall. Still some hotties but prices have doubled overall. The heyday is definitely over. Glad I was there to experience it when it really was on fire. Tiktok is an option but lots of work.

[UnknownSD]

In the style of UnknownSD.

Lookin4 RichBF: LOL, the username says it all. Looking for long-term arrangement. Allowance negotiable, but I'm guessing she wants a sky-high allowance. I didn't get that far because I only negotiate allowance in person and she wanted $300 for a m&g. I countered with $150 and she got offended. For you big spenders though, she looks pretty hot. Mid-20's, Latina but her makeup makes her look Asian. Face 7, Body 8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...7-32b7e8df18b3

Haha. Nice style LOL. You're smart. I avoid these because they usually just meet you to pick up the money and walk out the door on you. It's a complete waste of time and money. Good call.

[FarFarAway]

I'm taking a break from sugaring, because I just don't see the value. I realize some of you guys like the illusion of having a gf or the illusion that she isn't really a hooker or prefer the GND look, etc. But I just look at it as value for money and I value personality and looks. Personality is subjective and takes some time to figure out, but looks are objective and right there in your face. It's the reason why apps like Tinder or Bumble are so popular, you can scan quickly and see if you like someone's looks.

In my mind, SA is dead and all of the true 8's, 9's and 10's are gone and now all that's left is a bunch of 7's charging wayyy too much for what you get.

We'll keep that in mind.

[Chupacabra]

I'm taking a break from sugaring, because I just don't see the value. I realize some of you guys like the illusion of having a gf or the illusion that she isn't really a hooker or prefer the GND look, etc. But I just look at it as value for money and I value personality and looks. Personality is subjective and takes some time to figure out, but looks are objective and right there in your face. It's the reason why apps like Tinder or Bumble are so popular, you can scan quickly and see if you like someone's looks.

Having said that. . . Where are the hotties? I'm seeing girls asking for 1 k, 1. 5 k or more and they are just cute, not hot. You can find a good younger K-girl or even a girl off Humaniplex with equal or even better looks for much, much less. Sure there are girls worth that higher price range, but in my mind they are true model material. Scandinavian blondes, long legged Russians, real top shelf girls like you'd see in a music video or working as eye candy at a top club or pool party in Vegas. I know they exist because when I was younger and prettier I actually dated a couple, and they would blow anyone out of the water on SA right now. Not even exaggerating. They'd probably be asking for 3-5 k or more if I'm just comparing their looks to these girls on SA now. But I don't even see those women on SA at all. Maybe once in a blue moon and it's usually some weird scammy seeming profile like a "LOVE girl" or they want money upfront or they are in Europe, etc.

I know there are real ballers that can toss 3-5 k around like pocket change for models (I knew some young rich jerks from UAE back in the day that did this all the time) but there is nothing for them to throw their shekels at on SA. So I guess I'm back to my original question. . . Where are the hotties? I know they still exist and like all super hot women, I know they are selling their asses for money somewhere. I'm thinking they must be peddling their wares somewhere other than SA or the usual escort sites. Even Russian / Ukrainian escorts seem to be super scarce and hard to find compared to say the 2000's. Is it Instagram? Snapchat? Tiktok? Do you need to "slide into the DMs" these days to actually get in front of a true hottie? Somebody younger and more in touch with social media these days must know, so help a brotha out. Where are they hiding the top shelf?

In my mind, SA is dead and all of the true 8's, 9's and 10's are gone and now all that's left is a bunch of 7's charging wayyy too much for what you get.

[Vodka Tonic]

In the style of UnknownSD.

Lookin4 RichBF: LOL, the username says it all. Looking for long-term arrangement. Allowance negotiable, but I'm guessing she wants a sky-high allowance. I didn't get that far because I only negotiate allowance in person and she wanted $300 for a m&g. I countered with $150 and she got offended. For you big spenders though, she looks pretty hot. Mid-20's, Latina but her makeup makes her look Asian. Face 7, Body 8.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...7-32b7e8df18b3

[Loafy]

Miley Osaka: Very tiny Korean-American girl, early 20's. Probably like 5', 90 lbs, maybe even a little smaller. Clean and put-together, a little shy. Good kisser, but everything was covered. Service was rushed, and felt like a service. I think she was hoping for a few pumps and then she'd be out of there. She was charging 500 for a M&G or 750 for straight to the bedroom. Not sure what her thinking is there; obviously I took option 2.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...6-627f88eea3ca

Also, I was browsing Tryst the other day, and it looks like she's recently gone pro. She still seems quite inexperienced though:

https://tryst.link/escort/mileyosaka

Damn, she's up in sf now and quoting 1. 5; idk what her rules are tho. Covered?

[ColoHobbyist]

Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?

Absolutely, although not since COVID. There was a year stretch during the worst of it where I banged 6 different girls for free (aside from coffees, a,couple pizzas, etc). Apparently there's someplace 20-somethings go during regular times to find 50 year old guys to creampie them that was closed during the pandemic. 😂.

In all honesty though, none of these chicks were above a 6. But I'd rather bang a 4 that's into it for free than an 8 that's bored for $400.

[Alkalinedio]

Good move! Cut your losses.

Had a date w a 42 YO lawyer. We had dinner at my hotel, she was a little bit strange, wasn't sure I was going to do anything w / her. After eating I suggested stretching our legs. She was sorta stalling, getting drinks, we finally walk back to the hotel. I didn't think she was up for it, so I said I should send her home unless she told me something different. She did, so we went up to my room. Some nice making out, I got her naked, I got my mouth on everything but her puss, and I even wondered if this would be a freebie. Then she starts negotiating allowance. She thought I would think w / the little head. She made me start, so I said what I wanted. 400. Her counter was 700. I said I could not, and 450. I didn't really hear her but it must have been 500. And then she said was giving me a big discount. And then, we weren't going to agree over $50? I thought about it. Her discount comment suggested to me that she wasn't going to be a good lay. And her body was nothing like my other SB. I just said 'I am going to send you home'. So, she got dressed and left. Some niceties were exchanged. Though, oddly, as she went out the door of the room, she kissed me. Hoping I don't get any blowback from her. I blocked her on GV.

[Alkalinedio]

I've got a handful of those. It usually works with the brand new ones, or if there's an attraction. I usually go with 'let's just see if we vibe, what if you don't like me? And vice versa' and say that way there is no pressure, get a drink and the next time we can spoil if there's a connection. The pros if they mention money right away it will not work with, they are too seasoned or have been burned. I'll even say I'll cover your gas, but let's just hang to see if we are attracted and vibe. It doesn't work with the pros, I try to avoid those.

Stay safe.

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Have any of you hooked up with a SB off seeking for the first time with no money involved?