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  1. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyEnding20  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the advice SubCmdr. I just signed up this morning. What do you mean by developing a intro letter? You mean when you first message someone? Also, do you usually try to do a M&G right away or do you just e-mail them first back and forth for a couple weeks until they're comfortable?

    Also, do you have a picture up? For me, I want to be as discreet as possible. I don't want my picture going around. Do you think these ladies care?
    Girls want to see your pic. If you can't do that you are killing your chances. A BP girl could care less. But a non pro at $ does care.

  2. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyEnding20  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the advice HollywoodGuy. I just signed up today. Let me ask you do you usually talk about the amount before a M&G? I use to waste a lot of time meeting women on CL in person and not mentioning cash before. Then when I would say $ they immediately got turned off and left.
    I always get the price down immediately or the rest would or could be a waste of time. Usually get it all confirmed the first day. My biggest problem lately is location. The burbs are rockin but I am in hollywood, Tonite I went with my home girl in k-town for. 6 for the works. I can pick her up in under 10 minutes. I hate driving as I work from home. If I was willing to go 30 to 45 minutes I can get a lot more action. But to get back to the point, just get to the point with these girls as fast as possible. I never ask for FS on the first date, but get it most of the time.

  3. #105
    Thanks for the advice HollywoodGuy. I just signed up today. Let me ask you do you usually talk about the amount before a M&G? I use to waste a lot of time meeting women on CL in person and not mentioning cash before. Then when I would say $ they immediately got turned off and left.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    Staying focused on the deal not the girl. That is it in a nutshell. Got burned once in 2012 doing the opposite. Timing can be key. Non pros can blow like the wind. On Tuesday they will take your $ in a heartbeat. In a week the price can double or more. Or they can be gone completely. Saw a true 18 why o non pro tonite. Only kissed. Paid. 4. A guy looking for SW's would laugh at that. But who wants to kiss a SW? If I want to follow up with her (which in this case I don't for a variety of reasons) the next date would be $ and the action would increase to FS or at least a BBBJ. Then it would go from there. The timing was key as she was just asked to leave her parents house and is a bit worried about covering her new bills.

    Last week I paid $ for 2 hours of FS. Not going back anytime soon because that in and of itself is still not enough. Thats how good the market really is once you get the ball rolling. Like the man said 4 regulars for $ each and many unfulfilled m & g's just due to sheer volume. Me personally I like to stay at about 20 to 22 for the best results and is a; so my preference. But any age could be a winner. Had some awesome MILF's along the way

  4. #104
    Thanks for the advice SubCmdr. I just signed up this morning. What do you mean by developing a intro letter? You mean when you first message someone? Also, do you usually try to do a M&G right away or do you just e-mail them first back and forth for a couple weeks until they're comfortable?

    Also, do you have a picture up? For me, I want to be as discreet as possible. I don't want my picture going around. Do you think these ladies care?

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    My first suggestion if you want to operate successfully in the Sugar Baby Market is to RTFF! Check out Virginia, Richmond, Sugarbabies. It is a national forum with information from all over the country.

    Picking up a SW is hunting. BP is bait casting. Sugar Babies is like fly casting.

    Develop a intro letter. Pick you targets. Throw out a lot of letters.

    The bargains are where ever you find them. If a woman needs money and you are offering to her at the right time, you can find a deal. My understanding is that in OC there is $100 deals to be had every day. But in San Diego the young ones are usually trying to get $$. But in San Diego 30 and up cannot command more than $. And I have line of women of all races waiting for a time slot so I can meet them.

    The key is not to get focused on the woman. You must focus on the deal. Let's face it gentleman (and yes I use the term loosely) they are all slinging the same thing. If the ask price does not meet your bid price just move on. Get the experience moving around in the market. You will get a feel for it. When a SB says I usually get (enter outrageous amount). Simply decline and move on. When you get focused on a particular woman that is when you wind up overpaying. And I am speaking from experience.

    I have four regulars that are $/visit. Age range 27. 42; Asian, White, Hispanic, Black; ATF1 I spend a ton of money on, because I treat her like a girlfriend. And our relationship has evolved to the point where the $ is really optional. But, it took me 9 months to find ATF1. But I tried out a lot of pussy while I was searching.

    Hang tough. Stay with for the long term and if your personality it suited for the activity. You will find what you are looking for.

    SubCmdr out!

  5. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Willie23  [View Original Post]
    Okay, I made the mistake of thinking there were 3 days of free access based on their promise of 3 days of free access. When it came to the end of registration, I had no option but check or credit card.

    Since then, my mongering inbox is awash from "contacts." but when I log in, most are out of the LA area (some 100 miles out) and I wonder if we aren't looking at a high incidence of noise vs signal here?

    Anyone prepared to say SD4ME is worth a trial vs continuing to try the Backpage & CL ads for free?

    TIA
    Obviously I am biased to sd4me. Never do BP. And CL is way too much work. Saw one of my regulars last nite. I am at. 6 for BB FS with her and could get it for free but I am a nice guy. Thats bragging. But the point being there is some good action on there

  6. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Rice  [View Original Post]
    Want to report and share some of my experience after been in the Sugar Bowl for 3 months.

    SB1. MILF and no show for twice. I tried one more time, and it got paid off pretty good. At the end of the 1st meeting, she was BBBJCIMWS in my car. .40 2nd meeting, met her in a motel. CFS-like a dead fish. .2nd shot. BBBJCIMWS was awesome. Since is too far way from me, and FS is not that great, and she can't host (I can't host) , so cut her loose.

    SB2. Late-20s blonde with awesome coke bottle figure. She can host (awesome). For the first several meetings, she did not want any sugar. Gave me BBBJCIM DT (Super). No swallow though. Later, she needs $, so I offer $ per week. Deal. Is still going strong with her (1 month now).

    SB3. Young blonde. M&G back 2 months ago and still not able to get our first meet. Just before the scheduled date, always come up with excuse. Is still talking with her, but (as how Cmdr mentored me, don't let SBs impact me.) I just play along with her and see whether I can really get together with her.

    There are other one-time non-repeater SBs, but not worth to mention here.

    Still learning a lot of from Cmdr. The respond rate I am getting from Sugar Bowl is still very low (<1%). (definitely lower than Cmdr even in the same city, San Diego). From my experience, seems that SDFM has a bit higher respond rate than SA. (just me of course)
    Sb 2 that is

  7. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Dog Rice  [View Original Post]
    Want to report and share some of my experience after been in the Sugar Bowl for 3 months.

    SB1. MILF and no show for twice. I tried one more time, and it got paid off pretty good. At the end of the 1st meeting, she was BBBJCIMWS in my car. .40 2nd meeting, met her in a motel. CFS-like a dead fish. .2nd shot. BBBJCIMWS was awesome. Since is too far way from me, and FS is not that great, and she can't host (I can't host) , so cut her loose.

    SB2. Late-20s blonde with awesome coke bottle figure. She can host (awesome). For the first several meetings, she did not want any sugar. Gave me BBBJCIM DT (Super). No swallow though. Later, she needs $, so I offer $ per week. Deal. Is still going strong with her (1 month now).

    SB3. Young blonde. M&G back 2 months ago and still not able to get our first meet. Just before the scheduled date, always come up with excuse. Is still talking with her, but (as how Cmdr mentored me, don't let SBs impact me.) I just play along with her and see whether I can really get together with her.

    There are other one-time non-repeater SBs, but not worth to mention here.

    Still learning a lot of from Cmdr. The respond rate I am getting from Sugar Bowl is still very low (<1%). (definitely lower than Cmdr even in the same city, San Diego). From my experience, seems that SDFM has a bit higher respond rate than SA. (just me of course)
    Can you pm me the link to her profile. Not going to contact her. Just curious. Good score

  8. #100

    SD4ME question for mentors

    Okay, I made the mistake of thinking there were 3 days of free access based on their promise of 3 days of free access. When it came to the end of registration, I had no option but check or credit card.

    Since then, my mongering inbox is awash from "contacts." but when I log in, most are out of the LA area (some 100 miles out) and I wonder if we aren't looking at a high incidence of noise vs signal here?

    Anyone prepared to say SD4ME is worth a trial vs continuing to try the Backpage & CL ads for free?

    TIA

  9. #99

    Report

    Want to report and share some of my experience after been in the Sugar Bowl for 3 months.

    SB1. MILF and no show for twice. I tried one more time, and it got paid off pretty good. At the end of the 1st meeting, she was BBBJCIMWS in my car. .40 2nd meeting, met her in a motel. CFS-like a dead fish. .2nd shot. BBBJCIMWS was awesome. Since is too far way from me, and FS is not that great, and she can't host (I can't host) , so cut her loose.

    SB2. Late-20s blonde with awesome coke bottle figure. She can host (awesome). For the first several meetings, she did not want any sugar. Gave me BBBJCIM DT (Super). No swallow though. Later, she needs $, so I offer $ per week. Deal. Is still going strong with her (1 month now).

    SB3. Young blonde. M&G back 2 months ago and still not able to get our first meet. Just before the scheduled date, always come up with excuse. Is still talking with her, but (as how Cmdr mentored me, don't let SBs impact me.) I just play along with her and see whether I can really get together with her.

    There are other one-time non-repeater SBs, but not worth to mention here.

    Still learning a lot of from Cmdr. The respond rate I am getting from Sugar Bowl is still very low (<1%). (definitely lower than Cmdr even in the same city, San Diego). From my experience, seems that SDFM has a bit higher respond rate than SA. (just me of course)

  10. #98

    You

    She doble the price plus 70 for the room. I pass and you're right! No deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    Been there done that. I do not recommend her even at half the price

  11. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Fitibikeco  [View Original Post]
    I mail her and she accept a deal for $ for the hour, then she told me that she can get a room in the el segundo and manhathan beach blvd, how (for your experience) work or look like? It's real or I have to consider any possible scam or rob situation. It's my first SD appointment so I really appreciated the advice.

    This is the girl.

    http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index...from=mail_list
    Been there done that. I do not recommend her even at half the price

  12. #96

    Advice

    I mail her and she accept a deal for $ for the hour, then she told me that she can get a room in the el segundo and manhathan beach blvd, how (for your experience) work or look like? It's real or I have to consider any possible scam or rob situation. It's my first SD appointment so I really appreciated the advice.

    This is the girl http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index...from=mail_list

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    I would say there are a lot of black girls that are reasonable. But they are my preference so I talk to more of them. When I venture over to a white or latina girl I still get good responses. I have a white stripper I haven't even followed up on yet that agreed to my $

  13. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    My first suggestion if you want to operate successfully in the Sugar Baby Market is to RTFF! Check out Virginia, Richmond, Sugarbabies. It is a national forum with information from all over the country.

    Picking up a SW is hunting. BP is bait casting. Sugar Babies is like fly casting.

    Develop a intro letter. Pick you targets. Throw out a lot of letters.

    The bargains are where ever you find them. If a woman needs money and you are offering to her at the right time, you can find a deal. My understanding is that in OC there is $100 deals to be had every day. But in San Diego the young ones are usually trying to get $$. But in San Diego 30 and up cannot command more than $. And I have line of women of all races waiting for a time slot so I can meet them.

    The key is not to get focused on the woman. You must focus on the deal. Let's face it gentleman (and yes I use the term loosely) they are all slinging the same thing. If the ask price does not meet your bid price just move on. Get the experience moving around in the market. You will get a feel for it. When a SB says I usually get (enter outrageous amount). Simply decline and move on. When you get focused on a particular woman that is when you wind up overpaying. And I am speaking from experience.

    I have four regulars that are $/visit. Age range 27. 42; Asian, White, Hispanic, Black; ATF1 I spend a ton of money on, because I treat her like a girlfriend. And our relationship has evolved to the point where the $ is really optional. But, it took me 9 months to find ATF1. But I tried out a lot of pussy while I was searching.

    Hang tough. Stay with for the long term and if your personality it suited for the activity. You will find what you are looking for.

    SubCmdr out!
    Staying focused on the deal not the girl. That is it in a nutshell. Got burned once in 2012 doing the opposite. Timing can be key. Non pros can blow like the wind. On Tuesday they will take your $ in a heartbeat. In a week the price can double or more. Or they can be gone completely. Saw a true 18 why o non pro tonite. Only kissed. Paid. 4. A guy looking for SW's would laugh at that. But who wants to kiss a SW? If I want to follow up with her (which in this case I don't for a variety of reasons) the next date would be $ and the action would increase to FS or at least a BBBJ. Then it would go from there. The timing was key as she was just asked to leave her parents house and is a bit worried about covering her new bills.

    Last week I paid $ for 2 hours of FS. Not going back anytime soon because that in and of itself is still not enough. Thats how good the market really is once you get the ball rolling. Like the man said 4 regulars for $ each and many unfulfilled m & g's just due to sheer volume. Me personally I like to stay at about 20 to 22 for the best results and is a; so my preference. But any age could be a winner. Had some awesome MILF's along the way

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyEnding20  [View Original Post]
    HollywoodGuy, would you say the majority of the girls that are bargains are African American?
    I would say there are a lot of black girls that are reasonable. But they are my preference so I talk to more of them. When I venture over to a white or latina girl I still get good responses. I have a white stripper I haven't even followed up on yet that agreed to my $

  15. #93

    Sugar Baby Market

    Quote Originally Posted by HappyEnding20  [View Original Post]
    HollywoodGuy, would you say the majority of the girls that are bargains are African American?
    My first suggestion if you want to operate successfully in the Sugar Baby Market is to RTFF! Check out Virginia, Richmond, Sugarbabies. It is a national forum with information from all over the country.

    Picking up a SW is hunting. BP is bait casting. Sugar Babies is like fly casting.

    Develop a intro letter. Pick you targets. Throw out a lot of letters.

    The bargains are where ever you find them. If a woman needs money and you are offering to her at the right time, you can find a deal. My understanding is that in OC there is $100 deals to be had every day. But in San Diego the young ones are usually trying to get $$. But in San Diego 30 and up cannot command more than $. And I have line of women of all races waiting for a time slot so I can meet them.

    The key is not to get focused on the woman. You must focus on the deal. Let's face it gentleman (and yes I use the term loosely) they are all slinging the same thing. If the ask price does not meet your bid price just move on. Get the experience moving around in the market. You will get a feel for it. When a SB says I usually get (enter outrageous amount). Simply decline and move on. When you get focused on a particular woman that is when you wind up overpaying. And I am speaking from experience.

    I have four regulars that are $/visit. Age range 27. 42; Asian, White, Hispanic, Black; ATF1 I spend a ton of money on, because I treat her like a girlfriend. And our relationship has evolved to the point where the $ is really optional. But, it took me 9 months to find ATF1. But I tried out a lot of pussy while I was searching.

    Hang tough. Stay with for the long term and if your personality it suited for the activity. You will find what you are looking for.

    SubCmdr out!

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