Sugar Babies / Arrangements

[HotMuse69]

It's happened many times. It's never been weird, in fact, if they're with someone else (friends, or new SD), they usually introduce me as a friend. When an arrangement ends, I always ask if they want to keep in touch. If they say "no", then obviously I wouldn't make a scene in public. If they say "yes", then I know they'll probably want to say hi!

With that said, I never make arrangements with people who are 'involved', even if the SB claims their husband / BF /(in one case, her wife) is okay with it. I always do my due diligence to check to make sure a potential SB is actually single and doesn't have any drama with EX's. Nothing will make me end an arrangement faster than being introduced to a spouse I had no idea existed, or an extreme case where a spouse shows up at my house. Luckily, none of those things have ever happened, and I think that's in part to being super selective on who I make arrangements with.

Nearly every arrangement I had ended on good terms. I only had a couple that ended with the girl ghosting me, but those were both very short term (less than a month) arrangements.

Agree, I don't even really use the term SB, I emphasize "FRIEND with benefits" and treat the good ones legits like a friend. That way that sets the expectation if we see each other in public we're friends with our own lives and cordial but on our date we can still be pda, it's all about context.

[NerdFriday]

Anyone ever accidentally come across a sugar baby in public? I ran across two whom I have seen pictures of online but never met with. If it was a SB I previously met with, I wonder what her and my reaction would be if we ran across eachother. I was with some friends who don't know I do this.

It's happened many times. It's never been weird, in fact, if they're with someone else (friends, or new SD), they usually introduce me as a friend. When an arrangement ends, I always ask if they want to keep in touch. If they say "no", then obviously I wouldn't make a scene in public. If they say "yes", then I know they'll probably want to say hi!

With that said, I never make arrangements with people who are 'involved', even if the SB claims their husband / BF /(in one case, her wife) is okay with it. I always do my due diligence to check to make sure a potential SB is actually single and doesn't have any drama with EX's. Nothing will make me end an arrangement faster than being introduced to a spouse I had no idea existed, or an extreme case where a spouse shows up at my house. Luckily, none of those things have ever happened, and I think that's in part to being super selective on who I make arrangements with.

Nearly every arrangement I had ended on good terms. I only had a couple that ended with the girl ghosting me, but those were both very short term (less than a month) arrangements.

[Makana9]

Yes, I once saw my SB with her husband in a 7-Eleven. We had actually discussed the possibility before and we agreed that we wouldn't "know" each other. As it happened, we caught each other's eye, smiled and that was it. I was happy to see her.

Quite uncomfortable, well it was for me. Not really an SB, more a side piece but maybe PT SB, LOL. We had been seeing each other for a few months, never at her place, either mine, Quick QirBnB back then, or our trucks, until that weekend at our Athletic Camp, and boom, not only met her boy but also her husband. That was pretty awkward, and a LOL moment. Worse, was holding our usual Super Bowl party, we closed off our cul-de-sac, neighbors and I go all out, invited all of our friends, had multiple TV setups, a game area for the kids to keep them busy, food forever, so I laid the backdrop. Was seeing this PT SB sidepiece FWB later, and helped her start her online business using our model (not OF, LOL). She always complained of being not appreciated, lonely, blah blah blah, and a sex on her mind all the time, sex text and all that 10 yards. She go, sometimes need help, back then, can can, so, ehhhh. Then a neighbor said to come meet his co-workers (they are Carpenters) Fk Me! There she stands, AIYAH! Never really thought about the consequences back then. OH boy, wondered if? My neighbor never saw her sneaking into my house, but they leave for work very early, so? That one was awkward. We all will have them. YOLO.

[AllAboutO]

Anyone ever accidentally come across a sugar baby in public? I ran across two whom I have seen pictures of online but never met with. If it was a SB I previously met with, I wonder what her and my reaction would be if we ran across eachother. I was with some friends who don't know I do this.

Yes, I once saw my SB with her husband in a 7-Eleven. We had actually discussed the possibility before and we agreed that we wouldn't "know" each other. As it happened, we caught each other's eye, smiled and that was it. I was happy to see her.

[NerdFriday]

With due respect, this is the fastest way to get rinsed if you're looking to actually get action. If you're interested in a paid friend zone then def follow this logic. That's how we got to this whole "platonic" nonsense. Trust me, non of these girls are on seeking for a older man to be friends with, they are there for one thing, you're money. I would recommend you determine what you're looking for. If you're like most of us looking for hot fun then by all means don't pay to "get to know them". Your time is just as valuable. That "couple hundred bucks for their time" is all most rinsers want in the first place. She can do that five times a week and never open her legs. If you're looking to find a paid friend zone then join a dating app, it's cheaper and the girls are more likely to become freebies.

Um, if you want to think getting "rinsed" is losing a few hundred, that's on you--typical arrangements are in the THOUSANDS a MONTH, so a few hundred is literally nothing in the grand scheme of things. The way I see it, is if a girl is planning on ghosting after I buy her a meal and give her a few hundred, I'm more than happy to pay her because I don't need to waste any more time. I don't know where you're getting this idea that I'm looking for platonic arrangements only. LOL. If the girl wants to do that "five times a week" that's on her, because it's no longer my time being wasted. Besides. If that girl were to pursue a "real arrangement", she'd have to spend less time meeting random guys, not to mention that every random guy she meets is a risk.

Hold firm on your budget and don't think with emotions. Always be respecful when you encounter GPS and oh you will. It's much different these days and it takes more patience then before. The Tik Tok fad really ruined things and the concept of a platonic arrangement but I blame seeking for that. These girls are smart enough to realize all they need is one sucker to "pay to get to know them" and they'll never have to give you any. After all, why would she give you any if she's already milked you for free?

I don't know where you get the impression that an SD needs to continue paying if they're unhappy with their SB. You got to give some to get some--with that said, you don't need to give everything at once. I hear so many stories from SB's about guys who lie about how much they make, how much they can pay, how actually disgusting some guys are etc. If you can really afford to pay thousands a month, a few hundred for a meet and greet is literally nothing. There are literally dudes who say they're worth millions, but live in a shitty house and drive a shitty car. There are dudes who say they'll pay a 10 k a month allowance, but need to "see if it will work first" for. A few hundred, which is obviously not scaling correctly. Don't be these guys.

Once you find a good baby, you'll fuck like you've never fucked before. Maybe you got "rinsed" a couple times, but you won't even think about that for very long. I mean, I've paid for international travel, surgeries, bought cars, paid tuition, helped SB's relocate, all over months / years of time of course, so I don't really give AF about a few hundred spent on time wasters, because it allowed me to move on to real arrangements and that's where the fun begins.

If you want quick, guaranteed action, stick to hookers. If you want to "BBFSCIM / P" a blonde, 6' tall, 20-something college student 3-times a week, it will take time to make it happen.

[SugaFoot]

First time joining since pre-pandemic. So much more flakes, GPS, ghosts, and scammers / fake profiles. Have a few coffee dates lined up. I was actually thinking of a more traditional SB / SD arrangement, I know most will typically only PPM. I've only done ppm, but wondering if anyone has any advice on a more formal allowance, boundaries, expectations for that type of arrangement. Any tips would be appreciated. Dm okay.

Hold firm on your budget and don't think with emotions. Always be respecful when you encounter GPS and oh you will. It's much different these days and it takes more patience then before. The Tik Tok fad really ruined things and the concept of a platonic arrangement but I blame seeking for that. These girls are smart enough to realize all they need is one sucker to "pay to get to know them" and they'll never have to give you any. After all, why would she give you any if she's already milked you for free?

[SugaFoot]

HotMuse gave a pretty good run-down.

I would just advise not doing full allowance before getting to "know them well". Most allowances are going to be in the thousands, so you probably don't want to give someone a few thousands only to find out it's not going to work. What I do is break down the agreed upon allowance into PPMs. Say the agreed upon allowance is 2 k a month, the ppms would be 5 every week. I would tell them lets meet for food / drinks, I'll pay for the food / drinks and give them a couple hundred for their time. This is where you'll meet face to face, probably in a public place, and get to know them on the surface. I'll then explain I'm only comfortable doing PPMs in the beginning and the PPM payments start when we spend "time in private". If she doesn't know what "time in private" means, just say you'll discuss more details when that time comes (this offers you a layer of protection). This also lets the potential baby know this isn't going to be a strictly platonic thing.

Never discuss sexual acts for money, partly because you don't know who you're talking to, and no legitimate sugar baby wants to be reduced to penny pinching transactions (e. G. Blowjob for X or anal for XXX etc.). This is the difference between an SB and a hooker. With an SB you're paying for a "personal connection"; with a hooker you're paying for an immediate act.

Trust me. If you treat your baby well, she'll do anything you want within reason. They know the game. Once she knows you're legit, she'll open up, and she'll be like the not-girlfriend, girlfriend, you always wanted.

With due respect, this is the fastest way to get rinsed if you're looking to actually get action. If you're interested in a paid friend zone then def follow this logic. That's how we got to this whole "platonic" nonsense. Trust me, non of these girls are on seeking for a older man to be friends with, they are there for one thing, you're money. I would recommend you determine what you're looking for. If you're like most of us looking for hot fun then by all means don't pay to "get to know them". Your time is just as valuable. That "couple hundred bucks for their time" is all most rinsers want in the first place. She can do that five times a week and never open her legs. If you're looking to find a paid friend zone then join a dating app, it's cheaper and the girls are more likely to become freebies.

[Island Guy808]

Anyone ever accidentally come across a sugar baby in public? I ran across two whom I have seen pictures of online but never met with. If it was a SB I previously met with, I wonder what her and my reaction would be if we ran across eachother. I was with some friends who don't know I do this.

Nothing to be worried about. You know another human being and might want to greet them if they are open to it. You are in control of your life right?

I've seen plenty providers out in the open, the legend Monica while she was out with someone, so we just exchanged smiles and moved on. Happy of Happiness fame was always open to say hi and exchange hugs while out, or pretty easy to tell if she didn't want the attention, and if anyone I knew asked (most didn't) I just said we had met previously, they don't need to know details. I'm known as a hugger when greeting folks so no big deal if anyone I know see it.

SB's, AMP girls, Escorts are people too. Some are transactional (business), but some are pretty cool and comfortable with themselves too.

Just my. 02.

IG.

[Emepe]

Anyone ever accidentally come across a sugar baby in public? I ran across two whom I have seen pictures of online but never met with. If it was a SB I previously met with, I wonder what her and my reaction would be if we ran across eachother. I was with some friends who don't know I do this.

[Andesi1]

Just my $0. 02 based on my experience, I still start with per meet at least a first couple times and only move to allowance once both sides build a trust and also an informal routine of what is realistic with each others schedules. My best allowance experiences have been ones that you don't sweat the little things like you must meet X number of times, but rather just keep it spontaneous. Usually if you play your cards right it comes out to a discount vs ppm, but you also have to be ok that sometimes you might be down one and know that in the grand scheme of things it'll be in your favor. And don't assume the allowance will keep the girls from getting distracted, you still got to do the usual legwork to keep their attention. If you do tho, it'll pay dividends and likely even open doors to UTRs because tbh girls all tell their friends what they're up to. With that said, be fluid abd ready to adjust the allowance based on what makes sense and is realistic. Keep a rotation and always plan for the next one in case it doesn't work out.

Great advice. Definitely want to take the shotgun approach, there's so many flakes and majority of meet ups go nowhere.

[NerdFriday]

First time joining since pre-pandemic. So much more flakes, GPS, ghosts, and scammers / fake profiles. Have a few coffee dates lined up. I was actually thinking of a more traditional SB / SD arrangement, I know most will typically only PPM. I've only done ppm, but wondering if anyone has any advice on a more formal allowance, boundaries, expectations for that type of arrangement. Any tips would be appreciated. Dm okay.

HotMuse gave a pretty good run-down.

I would just advise not doing full allowance before getting to "know them well". Most allowances are going to be in the thousands, so you probably don't want to give someone a few thousands only to find out it's not going to work. What I do is break down the agreed upon allowance into PPMs. Say the agreed upon allowance is 2 k a month, the ppms would be 5 every week. I would tell them lets meet for food / drinks, I'll pay for the food / drinks and give them a couple hundred for their time. This is where you'll meet face to face, probably in a public place, and get to know them on the surface. I'll then explain I'm only comfortable doing PPMs in the beginning and the PPM payments start when we spend "time in private". If she doesn't know what "time in private" means, just say you'll discuss more details when that time comes (this offers you a layer of protection). This also lets the potential baby know this isn't going to be a strictly platonic thing.

Never discuss sexual acts for money, partly because you don't know who you're talking to, and no legitimate sugar baby wants to be reduced to penny pinching transactions (e. G. Blowjob for X or anal for XXX etc.). This is the difference between an SB and a hooker. With an SB you're paying for a "personal connection"; with a hooker you're paying for an immediate act.

Trust me. If you treat your baby well, she'll do anything you want within reason. They know the game. Once she knows you're legit, she'll open up, and she'll be like the not-girlfriend, girlfriend, you always wanted.

[HotMuse69]

First time joining since pre-pandemic. So much more flakes, GPS, ghosts, and scammers / fake profiles. Have a few coffee dates lined up. I was actually thinking of a more traditional SB / SD arrangement, I know most will typically only PPM. I've only done ppm, but wondering if anyone has any advice on a more formal allowance, boundaries, expectations for that type of arrangement. Any tips would be appreciated. Dm okay.

Just my $0. 02 based on my experience, I still start with per meet at least a first couple times and only move to allowance once both sides build a trust and also an informal routine of what is realistic with each others schedules. My best allowance experiences have been ones that you don't sweat the little things like you must meet X number of times, but rather just keep it spontaneous. Usually if you play your cards right it comes out to a discount vs ppm, but you also have to be ok that sometimes you might be down one and know that in the grand scheme of things it'll be in your favor. And don't assume the allowance will keep the girls from getting distracted, you still got to do the usual legwork to keep their attention. If you do tho, it'll pay dividends and likely even open doors to UTRs because tbh girls all tell their friends what they're up to. With that said, be fluid abd ready to adjust the allowance based on what makes sense and is realistic. Keep a rotation and always plan for the next one in case it doesn't work out.

[Andesi1]

First time joining since pre-pandemic. So much more flakes, GPS, ghosts, and scammers / fake profiles. Have a few coffee dates lined up. I was actually thinking of a more traditional SB / SD arrangement, I know most will typically only PPM. I've only done ppm, but wondering if anyone has any advice on a more formal allowance, boundaries, expectations for that type of arrangement. Any tips would be appreciated. Dm okay.

[SugaFoot]

Decided to pay for an account and try my luck again here are couple reviews. I was only able to see the one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...d-54144fa3cce4

It's the girl in the pic but about 30 lbs heavier. Met her in public and was like daaaamn. Definitely a bigger girl.

I said hell with it, and switched it up, adapt to the situation. Walked to my vehicle and told her I just wanted.

A BJ. She was down, so got in my truck and found a spot, pulled over and had her give me a sloppy BBBJ and videoing the session, 140 then I asked if she rimmed and she said for 200. Just went for it, damn girl all in, moving her tongue and was all up in it. Rimming and stroking at the same time. Won't repeat. Just sharing to some of you who would want to see her.

Enjoy!

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...6-2f4d91009b62

Possible scammer, keeps asking about cashapp and sending her money. Sob story of my son is important to me and all that. Says she's on the windward side.

Will report on some other ones I'm working on.

Cheers!

Slim pickens on SA but I met the second one earlier this year and she's huge and gross. She's had a bunch of profiles.

On a separate note, social media has been much better this year for me.

[Pawghtr16]

Decided to pay for an account and try my luck again here are couple reviews. I was only able to see the one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...d-54144fa3cce4

It's the girl in the pic but about 30 lbs heavier. Met her in public and was like daaaamn. Definitely a bigger girl.

I said hell with it, and switched it up, adapt to the situation. Walked to my vehicle and told her I just wanted.

A BJ. She was down, so got in my truck and found a spot, pulled over and had her give me a sloppy BBBJ and videoing the session, 140 then I asked if she rimmed and she said for 200. Just went for it, damn girl all in, moving her tongue and was all up in it. Rimming and stroking at the same time. Won't repeat. Just sharing to some of you who would want to see her.

Enjoy!

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...6-2f4d91009b62

Possible scammer, keeps asking about cashapp and sending her money. Sob story of my son is important to me and all that. Says she's on the windward side.

Will report on some other ones I'm working on.

Cheers!