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  1. #2958
    Quote Originally Posted by Emepe  [View Original Post]
    Anyone ever accidentally come across a sugar baby in public? I ran across two whom I have seen pictures of online but never met with. If it was a SB I previously met with, I wonder what her and my reaction would be if we ran across eachother. I was with some friends who don't know I do this.
    Yes, I once saw my SB with her husband in a 7-Eleven. We had actually discussed the possibility before and we agreed that we wouldn't "know" each other. As it happened, we caught each other's eye, smiled and that was it. I was happy to see her.

  2. #2957
    Quote Originally Posted by SugaFoot  [View Original Post]
    With due respect, this is the fastest way to get rinsed if you're looking to actually get action. If you're interested in a paid friend zone then def follow this logic. That's how we got to this whole "platonic" nonsense. Trust me, non of these girls are on seeking for a older man to be friends with, they are there for one thing, you're money. I would recommend you determine what you're looking for. If you're like most of us looking for hot fun then by all means don't pay to "get to know them". Your time is just as valuable. That "couple hundred bucks for their time" is all most rinsers want in the first place. She can do that five times a week and never open her legs. If you're looking to find a paid friend zone then join a dating app, it's cheaper and the girls are more likely to become freebies.
    Um, if you want to think getting "rinsed" is losing a few hundred, that's on you--typical arrangements are in the THOUSANDS a MONTH, so a few hundred is literally nothing in the grand scheme of things. The way I see it, is if a girl is planning on ghosting after I buy her a meal and give her a few hundred, I'm more than happy to pay her because I don't need to waste any more time. I don't know where you're getting this idea that I'm looking for platonic arrangements only. LOL. If the girl wants to do that "five times a week" that's on her, because it's no longer my time being wasted. Besides. If that girl were to pursue a "real arrangement", she'd have to spend less time meeting random guys, not to mention that every random guy she meets is a risk.

    Quote Originally Posted by SugaFoot  [View Original Post]
    Hold firm on your budget and don't think with emotions. Always be respecful when you encounter GPS and oh you will. It's much different these days and it takes more patience then before. The Tik Tok fad really ruined things and the concept of a platonic arrangement but I blame seeking for that. These girls are smart enough to realize all they need is one sucker to "pay to get to know them" and they'll never have to give you any. After all, why would she give you any if she's already milked you for free?
    I don't know where you get the impression that an SD needs to continue paying if they're unhappy with their SB. You got to give some to get some--with that said, you don't need to give everything at once. I hear so many stories from SB's about guys who lie about how much they make, how much they can pay, how actually disgusting some guys are etc. If you can really afford to pay thousands a month, a few hundred for a meet and greet is literally nothing. There are literally dudes who say they're worth millions, but live in a shitty house and drive a shitty car. There are dudes who say they'll pay a 10 k a month allowance, but need to "see if it will work first" for. A few hundred, which is obviously not scaling correctly. Don't be these guys.

    Once you find a good baby, you'll fuck like you've never fucked before. Maybe you got "rinsed" a couple times, but you won't even think about that for very long. I mean, I've paid for international travel, surgeries, bought cars, paid tuition, helped SB's relocate, all over months / years of time of course, so I don't really give AF about a few hundred spent on time wasters, because it allowed me to move on to real arrangements and that's where the fun begins.

    If you want quick, guaranteed action, stick to hookers. If you want to "BBFSCIM / P" a blonde, 6' tall, 20-something college student 3-times a week, it will take time to make it happen.

  3. #2956
    Quote Originally Posted by Andesi1  [View Original Post]
    First time joining since pre-pandemic. So much more flakes, GPS, ghosts, and scammers / fake profiles. Have a few coffee dates lined up. I was actually thinking of a more traditional SB / SD arrangement, I know most will typically only PPM. I've only done ppm, but wondering if anyone has any advice on a more formal allowance, boundaries, expectations for that type of arrangement. Any tips would be appreciated. Dm okay.
    Hold firm on your budget and don't think with emotions. Always be respecful when you encounter GPS and oh you will. It's much different these days and it takes more patience then before. The Tik Tok fad really ruined things and the concept of a platonic arrangement but I blame seeking for that. These girls are smart enough to realize all they need is one sucker to "pay to get to know them" and they'll never have to give you any. After all, why would she give you any if she's already milked you for free?

  4. #2955
    Quote Originally Posted by NerdFriday  [View Original Post]
    HotMuse gave a pretty good run-down.

    I would just advise not doing full allowance before getting to "know them well". Most allowances are going to be in the thousands, so you probably don't want to give someone a few thousands only to find out it's not going to work. What I do is break down the agreed upon allowance into PPMs. Say the agreed upon allowance is 2 k a month, the ppms would be 5 every week. I would tell them lets meet for food / drinks, I'll pay for the food / drinks and give them a couple hundred for their time. This is where you'll meet face to face, probably in a public place, and get to know them on the surface. I'll then explain I'm only comfortable doing PPMs in the beginning and the PPM payments start when we spend "time in private". If she doesn't know what "time in private" means, just say you'll discuss more details when that time comes (this offers you a layer of protection). This also lets the potential baby know this isn't going to be a strictly platonic thing.

    Never discuss sexual acts for money, partly because you don't know who you're talking to, and no legitimate sugar baby wants to be reduced to penny pinching transactions (e. G. Blowjob for X or anal for XXX etc.). This is the difference between an SB and a hooker. With an SB you're paying for a "personal connection"; with a hooker you're paying for an immediate act.

    Trust me. If you treat your baby well, she'll do anything you want within reason. They know the game. Once she knows you're legit, she'll open up, and she'll be like the not-girlfriend, girlfriend, you always wanted.
    With due respect, this is the fastest way to get rinsed if you're looking to actually get action. If you're interested in a paid friend zone then def follow this logic. That's how we got to this whole "platonic" nonsense. Trust me, non of these girls are on seeking for a older man to be friends with, they are there for one thing, you're money. I would recommend you determine what you're looking for. If you're like most of us looking for hot fun then by all means don't pay to "get to know them". Your time is just as valuable. That "couple hundred bucks for their time" is all most rinsers want in the first place. She can do that five times a week and never open her legs. If you're looking to find a paid friend zone then join a dating app, it's cheaper and the girls are more likely to become freebies.

  5. #2954

    Whut?

    Quote Originally Posted by Emepe  [View Original Post]
    Anyone ever accidentally come across a sugar baby in public? I ran across two whom I have seen pictures of online but never met with. If it was a SB I previously met with, I wonder what her and my reaction would be if we ran across eachother. I was with some friends who don't know I do this.
    Nothing to be worried about. You know another human being and might want to greet them if they are open to it. You are in control of your life right?

    I've seen plenty providers out in the open, the legend Monica while she was out with someone, so we just exchanged smiles and moved on. Happy of Happiness fame was always open to say hi and exchange hugs while out, or pretty easy to tell if she didn't want the attention, and if anyone I knew asked (most didn't) I just said we had met previously, they don't need to know details. I'm known as a hugger when greeting folks so no big deal if anyone I know see it.

    SB's, AMP girls, Escorts are people too. Some are transactional (business), but some are pretty cool and comfortable with themselves too.

    Just my. 02.

    IG.

  6. #2953

    Running into SB

    Anyone ever accidentally come across a sugar baby in public? I ran across two whom I have seen pictures of online but never met with. If it was a SB I previously met with, I wonder what her and my reaction would be if we ran across eachother. I was with some friends who don't know I do this.

  7. #2952

    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by HotMuse69  [View Original Post]
    Just my $0. 02 based on my experience, I still start with per meet at least a first couple times and only move to allowance once both sides build a trust and also an informal routine of what is realistic with each others schedules. My best allowance experiences have been ones that you don't sweat the little things like you must meet X number of times, but rather just keep it spontaneous. Usually if you play your cards right it comes out to a discount vs ppm, but you also have to be ok that sometimes you might be down one and know that in the grand scheme of things it'll be in your favor. And don't assume the allowance will keep the girls from getting distracted, you still got to do the usual legwork to keep their attention. If you do tho, it'll pay dividends and likely even open doors to UTRs because tbh girls all tell their friends what they're up to. With that said, be fluid abd ready to adjust the allowance based on what makes sense and is realistic. Keep a rotation and always plan for the next one in case it doesn't work out.
    Great advice. Definitely want to take the shotgun approach, there's so many flakes and majority of meet ups go nowhere.

  8. #2951
    Quote Originally Posted by Andesi1  [View Original Post]
    First time joining since pre-pandemic. So much more flakes, GPS, ghosts, and scammers / fake profiles. Have a few coffee dates lined up. I was actually thinking of a more traditional SB / SD arrangement, I know most will typically only PPM. I've only done ppm, but wondering if anyone has any advice on a more formal allowance, boundaries, expectations for that type of arrangement. Any tips would be appreciated. Dm okay.
    HotMuse gave a pretty good run-down.

    I would just advise not doing full allowance before getting to "know them well". Most allowances are going to be in the thousands, so you probably don't want to give someone a few thousands only to find out it's not going to work. What I do is break down the agreed upon allowance into PPMs. Say the agreed upon allowance is 2 k a month, the ppms would be 5 every week. I would tell them lets meet for food / drinks, I'll pay for the food / drinks and give them a couple hundred for their time. This is where you'll meet face to face, probably in a public place, and get to know them on the surface. I'll then explain I'm only comfortable doing PPMs in the beginning and the PPM payments start when we spend "time in private". If she doesn't know what "time in private" means, just say you'll discuss more details when that time comes (this offers you a layer of protection). This also lets the potential baby know this isn't going to be a strictly platonic thing.

    Never discuss sexual acts for money, partly because you don't know who you're talking to, and no legitimate sugar baby wants to be reduced to penny pinching transactions (e. G. Blowjob for X or anal for XXX etc.). This is the difference between an SB and a hooker. With an SB you're paying for a "personal connection"; with a hooker you're paying for an immediate act.

    Trust me. If you treat your baby well, she'll do anything you want within reason. They know the game. Once she knows you're legit, she'll open up, and she'll be like the not-girlfriend, girlfriend, you always wanted.

  9. #2950
    Quote Originally Posted by Andesi1  [View Original Post]
    First time joining since pre-pandemic. So much more flakes, GPS, ghosts, and scammers / fake profiles. Have a few coffee dates lined up. I was actually thinking of a more traditional SB / SD arrangement, I know most will typically only PPM. I've only done ppm, but wondering if anyone has any advice on a more formal allowance, boundaries, expectations for that type of arrangement. Any tips would be appreciated. Dm okay.
    Just my $0. 02 based on my experience, I still start with per meet at least a first couple times and only move to allowance once both sides build a trust and also an informal routine of what is realistic with each others schedules. My best allowance experiences have been ones that you don't sweat the little things like you must meet X number of times, but rather just keep it spontaneous. Usually if you play your cards right it comes out to a discount vs ppm, but you also have to be ok that sometimes you might be down one and know that in the grand scheme of things it'll be in your favor. And don't assume the allowance will keep the girls from getting distracted, you still got to do the usual legwork to keep their attention. If you do tho, it'll pay dividends and likely even open doors to UTRs because tbh girls all tell their friends what they're up to. With that said, be fluid abd ready to adjust the allowance based on what makes sense and is realistic. Keep a rotation and always plan for the next one in case it doesn't work out.

  10. #2949

    Back on seeking

    First time joining since pre-pandemic. So much more flakes, GPS, ghosts, and scammers / fake profiles. Have a few coffee dates lined up. I was actually thinking of a more traditional SB / SD arrangement, I know most will typically only PPM. I've only done ppm, but wondering if anyone has any advice on a more formal allowance, boundaries, expectations for that type of arrangement. Any tips would be appreciated. Dm okay.

  11. #2948
    Quote Originally Posted by Pawghtr16  [View Original Post]
    Decided to pay for an account and try my luck again here are couple reviews. I was only able to see the one.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/2...d-54144fa3cce4

    It's the girl in the pic but about 30 lbs heavier. Met her in public and was like daaaamn. Definitely a bigger girl.

    I said hell with it, and switched it up, adapt to the situation. Walked to my vehicle and told her I just wanted.

    A BJ. She was down, so got in my truck and found a spot, pulled over and had her give me a sloppy BBBJ and videoing the session, 140 then I asked if she rimmed and she said for 200. Just went for it, damn girl all in, moving her tongue and was all up in it. Rimming and stroking at the same time. Won't repeat. Just sharing to some of you who would want to see her.

    Enjoy!

    https://members.seeking.com/member/6...6-2f4d91009b62

    Possible scammer, keeps asking about cashapp and sending her money. Sob story of my son is important to me and all that. Says she's on the windward side.

    Will report on some other ones I'm working on.

    Cheers!
    Slim pickens on SA but I met the second one earlier this year and she's huge and gross. She's had a bunch of profiles.

    On a separate note, social media has been much better this year for me.

  12. #2947

    Back on SA

    Decided to pay for an account and try my luck again here are couple reviews. I was only able to see the one.

    https://members.seeking.com/member/2...d-54144fa3cce4

    It's the girl in the pic but about 30 lbs heavier. Met her in public and was like daaaamn. Definitely a bigger girl.

    I said hell with it, and switched it up, adapt to the situation. Walked to my vehicle and told her I just wanted.

    A BJ. She was down, so got in my truck and found a spot, pulled over and had her give me a sloppy BBBJ and videoing the session, 140 then I asked if she rimmed and she said for 200. Just went for it, damn girl all in, moving her tongue and was all up in it. Rimming and stroking at the same time. Won't repeat. Just sharing to some of you who would want to see her.

    Enjoy!

    https://members.seeking.com/member/6...6-2f4d91009b62

    Possible scammer, keeps asking about cashapp and sending her money. Sob story of my son is important to me and all that. Says she's on the windward side.

    Will report on some other ones I'm working on.

    Cheers!

  13. #2946
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBlows  [View Original Post]
    Alright folks. After having two long term freebee relationships the better part of the last 2. 5 years, life happens and those two moved away with their husbands, thus I made my way back to SA after a long hiatus. Jumped back on the site in late August after about 3 years off it. As mentioned in a previous post, I'm severely disappointed across the board. It has really gone downhill since pre-COVID times. The amount of spammers / scammers, time wasters, and GPS and pay me to be your platonic friend has ruined the site. I also think SA has bots / AI creating new accounts daily with poached photos giving the illusion that there are hundreds if not thousands of women and students joing SA in Hawaii looking for action every year. I find that very hard to believe, but that's another conversation and posting altogether. I've actually got more entertainment out of trolling these girls (not women) and trying to beat them at their own game (wasting their time) as soon as I realize they are scammers or GPS. Not sure it's worth the $100+ per month though to keep having that kind of fun. Anyway.

    That's all I got and all I can remember for now. There's probably another 20 or 30 not listed that I messaged once and never responded back, or deleted their profiles. Moral of this story is SA is just not worth the trouble anymore and I'll probably be deleting the app. AMPs, PD, BP, etc seem to be the only reliable outlets anymore. Too much ADHD, GPS, platonic pay me to be your friend BS, or just general time wasters and scammers, spammers, and bots / fake profiles. Good luck to those of you still here, I just don't see the value in paying 1300 a year for a site that does little to nothing to screen the female profiles and actually, in my opinion, muddies the waters with fake accounts and bots posing as real people just to cheat you out of your 100 bucks a month. That's just me.
    Thanks a helluva report and nobody can say you didn't do your hw. While I totally agree that SA has been not as straightforward as back when I started using it in 2016, I still see value in the UTR college coeds. In fact I have one that only used SA for a couple months not seriously, but fast forward she's basically my freebie fwb. I take her on trips and its basically a buffet during the trip for just her flight, and at home the only thing I pay for is her yoga membership, our dates, and sometimes small gifts and flowers like dating any other girl.

    Also, there is a local community not unlike burning man. I'm not going to out them as they seem to be pretty private and invite only, but some of these girls go to those events and retreats and camps they host and some of those lead to orgies. I was invited to one by a girl I met on SA and it was awesome.

    Basically, you are right that SA is not as easy anymore, but meet the right girls on it and they can actually open more doors for you.

  14. #2945

    Great Report

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBlows  [View Original Post]
    Alright folks. After having two long term freebee relationships the better part of the last 2. 5 years, life happens and those two moved away with their husbands, thus I made my way back to SA after a long hiatus. Jumped back on the site in late August after about 3 years off it. As mentioned in a previous post, I'm severely disappointed across the board. It has really gone downhill since pre-COVID times. The amount of spammers / scammers, time wasters, and GPS and pay me to be your platonic friend has ruined the site. I also think SA has bots / AI creating new accounts daily with poached photos giving the illusion that there are hundreds if not thousands of women and students joing SA in Hawaii looking for action every year.
    Got a couple to mention from your list.

    2 Tiny Dancer. Messaged with her and it seemed like she was interested in meeting. Tried to facetime over the app but she could not see my face. I saw hers and she looks older than I prefer.

    3. Alice23 I don't think she is LEO. She agreed to a meet in public, but then asked me to give her some money at the meet just for meeting up. Told her I would give her money after we hook up and then she ghosted me.

    10. Curvyasian512 messaged with her and she messaged me to meet up one weekend. My membership expired so I couldn't read her message until way later. Never got to meet.

    37. Elina111 she is an escort that advertises on Private Delights with the same or similar name.

    39. Yogababyy spoke with her a while ago. Told me she was staying in a hostel but would meet for $600. Never met though.

    48. CoCoBae she also quoted me $1000. Found out from her she is a porn star. Google her username and you will find her vids. May be worth it if someone wants to bang a porn star.

    75. Jaybee197 same experience as you. Got her phone number and message a few times then she disappeared.

    76. SillySarahhh cute girl but for me she just wanted to do online arrangement. Passed.

    84. SumScarlet white blonde girl. Same response as you. $!000 FS for 45 min, or $800 BJ. Passed. She is still active on the site.

    87. Surfergurl999 messaged her and got no response.

  15. #2944

    Nice report

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBlows  [View Original Post]
    Alright folks. After having two long term freebee relationships the better part of the last 2. 5 years, life happens and those two moved away with their husbands, thus I made my way back to SA after a long hiatus. Jumped back on the site in late August after about 3 years off it. As mentioned in a previous post, I'm severely disappointed across the board. It has really gone downhill since pre-COVID times. The amount of spammers / scammers, time wasters, and GPS and pay me to be your platonic friend has ruined the site. I also think SA has bots / AI creating new accounts daily with poached photos giving the illusion that there are hundreds if not thousands of women and students joing SA in Hawaii looking for action every year. I find that very hard to believe, but that's another conversation and posting altogether. I've actually got more entertainment out of trolling these girls (not women) and trying to beat them at their own game (wasting their time) as soon as I realize they are scammers or GPS. Not sure it's worth the $100+ per month though to keep having that kind of fun. Anyway.

    So here's a rundown in somewhat chronological order, or as I recognized them after scrolling through the search feed. It's top to bottom, newly messaged to several months ago when I first got on. Hopefully this helps so that you don't waste your time. Of note, I've had a total of 3 successful encounters since August. Not worth the money / time (almost daily visiting the site and messaging several hundred women or so called real women). Two of those successes we're not even from Hawaii, they were foreign visitors, one from Asia one from South America. The one local girl was a chunky girl desperate for money that was not quite as advertised in her photos. She's mentioned below.

    For reference, I'm late 30's, married, good shape, good looking, white guy from the southeast that now lives here permanently. Not old or sloppy or overweight, etc. No offense to those of you that may be. Say this as it might be useful for you if you decide to try and work some of these girls as some have types and only want an older man willing to throw money at them, or a man they aren't attracted to so there's no risk of a relationship developing, etc etc.

    I'm posting usernames only. Not links. Sorry you're not getting that level of effort out of me for this project. You can look them up on the site yourself if it's of that big a concern to you:

    1. MermaidRosalia GPS and full of herself. Great looking ass and super tan, but has zero sense of humor. Didn't even get to the point of discussing arrangement. Wants a man to pay all of her bills. Legit joked with her about her being my sugar mama and me a trophy husband she lost her shit and went in to a diatribe about being pathetic and you'll never be anything blah blah blah then hit the block button. Literal no sense of humor or sarcasm. Tells me she's bitchy and full of herself.

    2. Tiny Dancer No discussion of an arrangement yet. This is the second person on here that has said " I have a retreat this weekend let's talk when I get back". Seems kinda strange to use that exact same line. She has quite a few pictures uploaded though so probably real. We shall see when she "gets back".

    3. Alice23 cute petite thing, pictures are from Vegas. Getting a weird vibe though. She can't hold a conversation, very sporadic. Texted on my burner with her, and talked on site, continually asks me where I'm located. She says she's in Waikiki. Asked her what her price was. She says "something mutually beneficial". The fuck answer is that? Probably won't pursue, hair on neck is tingling as possible LEO even though her profile say I'd validated.

    4. SweetBabeA new to the site. Huge tits. Says she's just seeing what's out there. Doesn't know what she wants. Asked her if she was interested in a FWB mutually beneficial arrangement after talking for a couple of days, no response.

    5. Yogini_Hawaii little bit of talking back and forth. Lives on Big Island but occasionally visits Oahu. Very sporadic. Not sure she's worth pursuing. Nice ass, but don't think she's serious about PPMs.

    6. Qu3 efqueen short convo then disappeared. ADHD I think.

    7. Amarie very cute looking another platonic pay me to be your friend and take me to dinner types.

    8. Adelaide few messages then disappears for weeks at a time. Don't waste your time.

    9. Mysti not serious, just a time waster.

    10. Curvyasian512 get on here when she get's lonely just looking for attention then disappears for weeks at a time. Doesn't seem like she actually wants to meet up.

    11. TemptingGoddess cute looking military spouse going through a divorce. Just here when she's bored, lonely, looking for male attention (convo only). Not serious about meeting up. May be willing to sell you some pics. Not my thing as there is plenty of free porn out there. Leaving in another month or two anyway.

    12. Lola Very sexy. Great pics. Only wants a platonic take me to dinner and trips arrangement. Have at it if you like wasting your money on something pretty that isn't going to put out. Maybe, after months of a platonic deal, she might open up to something sexual. I sense GPS though but at least she was honest and straightforward.

    13. RedheadGoddess messaged. No response. Constantly online though. Might be a bot account?

    14. X0 X0 sexyfairies not serious about a meet up. On occasionally then disappears for weeks at a time. Strikes me as a picture / vid seller maybe. Wouldn't be surprised if she's just trying to get O F subscribers.

    15. SurfinKitten ADHD. Convo for a few minutes. Disappears for weeks. Model photos which might be stolen from somewhere else. Couldn't find them on tineye or google search anywhere. Not serious about meet ups anyway.

    16. Eva Korean MILF. Think she was seeing one of you mongers here for a little while. Mentioned she knows of a woman (ankle bracelet linda) that does bb anal that's how I know she was seeing one of you, or she peruses this site. Talked about getting married to the monger. Guess that fell through after he took a trip to PI. Maybe you two worked things out though, hope the best for you guys. She's not giving up that Hoe life as she told me though LOL. Tried to help you out and told her to stop if she was serious. Clearly that's not happened though. Quoted me 4 bills for meetup. Everything covered. Not my thing. I'll wear the cover but I better be getting an open menu for that much and you better be young hot thing, not a MILF with a restricted menu. She does have an OF but it's only pictures in lingerie and bikinis, nothing nude. Got to pay extra for those. Have fun if that's your thing.

    17. Roslyn looks hot. Quoted me 8 bills for standard menu. No thanks. Has a friend that will join for 15 bills, no thanks. GPS x2. I'm not that desperate.

    18. Kayla was back on SA for a minute under a new username then quickly disappeared. Probably needed some quick cash and was trying to avoid her stalker. Briefly talked. She quoted me 4 bills for standard menu 5 bills with anal. Passed. Had her back 3 or 4 years ago for 2 bills with anal. Sorry but nothing has changed with your service, offering, etc. Not paying over double the price for same action. Inflation isn't that bad. And sorry Kayla if you read this as I know you peruse from time to time, just my personal feelings. Nothing against you. You've got a price, I've got my limits.

    19. StunningSiren wants a platonic take me on dates. No thanks.

    20. Mikala cute Mexican / japanese mix. Not serious. ADHD. Few messages, then gone for weeks, few messages, gone another few weeks. Don't waste your time.

    21. SweetBelle Seems like a game player / time waster and GPS. Exchanged a few messages and that was that. Not worth my time.

    22. Temptations time waster. Not serious. Think she deleted the account anyway.

    23. Sensualsadie weird seeming one. The second one on here that used the line about having a retreat over the weekend and messaging after that. Which she never did. Actually started texting over phone before that. Reverse searched number and found a CL ad about trying to sell space for storing a boat in Kaneohe. Possible scammer or maybe a dude moonlighting as a chick trying to sell you fake pics.

    24. Gabriellaxo GPS, not super serious about meeting up. Wants someone to just give her money for her presence and conversation LOL.

    25. SurfandBeach messaged once. No reply.

    26. BeachGirl holding a goat in her picture. Had a few days of convo, talked about meeting up, then disappeared. Hasn't been online since.

    27. Jbat messaged once, no reply.

    28. Bunny semi-cute young girl in Hilo. Seems promising but does me no good over there.

    29. Peacelove messaged once, no reply.

    30. Bbclark05 serious ADHD and not serious about meetups. Might be a O F er trying to sell pics and vids, or could be a scammer. Will send one or two messages then disappear for weeks.

    31. Ripcurlv cute girl but not serious about meetups. Isn't even in Hawaii half the time it seems. Talked about being in the mid-east, travelling, etc. Don't waste your time. The pics are just clickbait.

    32. Maklaya wants me to teach her how to surf. Not my type though and not feeling the vibe.

    33. JustAnotherGirlll ADHD. On once in a blue moon. Not interested in meeting up.

    34. GoinGolfin older woman, 44 year old Not serious about meetups. Seems like she's constantly got some drama or issue going on. Don't waste your time.

    35. Glamorous deleted profile I think. Time waster anyway. Not serious about a meetup.

    36. Baabyloovee Now in Canada according to her profile. Didn't seem serious.

    37. Elina111 Deleted profile it appears. Foreign looking skinny girl, maybe Russian or Ukrainian. Quoted me 6 bills for standard action. Passed.

    38. Thelovelyerika cute little Filipino looking girl. Quoted me 8 bills for standard. Tempted to pull the trigger but I've got a limit, and she was above it. Passed.

    39. Yogababyy Unsure about this one. Cute, claimed she was from Maui and a Yoga instructor that comes to Oahu to teach classes. Profile says she's in LA now. Quoted me 6 bills. Everything covered. Lots of rules. Passed.

    40.808 Hiromi Japanese looking MILF. Claims she's just seeing what's out there. Says she is married but unsatisfied. Wasn't serious about meeting up though. Wouldn't waste my time any further but may be just isn't in to white guys. Good luck if you give it a go.

    41. Kellyshay waste of time. Not serious about meetup. Got a sense of GPS. Never got to price or arrangement terms.

    42. Luna21 looks like profile deleted now. Not serious about meetups. Think she's either trying to sell pics or O F. Or maybe looking for an old man to pay her to be friend and take on fancy dinner dates.

    43. ThiccGoodGirl ADHD. Messaged back and forth a few times. Got to discussion about meetup and terms. Read message then disappeared. Not serious. Don't waste your time.

    44. Aphrodite profile says in Orlando now. Seemed fake. Exchanged few messages then I stopped the convo.

    45. Vinsincity this one is the chunky desperate early 20's local girl. Met up with her back in late August. 2 bills for 45 minutes. Everything covered but did give a teethy BBBJ. Got the job done but wouldn't repeat. Pics definitely hid the extra weight. She deleted her original profile, then created another one, then deleted that one and I think I saw her with a new one after that but not sure. Not sure if she's got a stalker or trying to be discrete and hide from family.

    46. Kailanikauai GPS. Quoted me 8 bills. Everything covered, lots of rules. Passed.

    47. Sbaby111 tall girl. Exchanged a few messages. Went no where.

    48. CoCoBae profile says in Australia now. GPS. Exchanged a few messaged. Quoted me 10 bills. Passed.

    49. Tori exchanged a few messages, then disappeared. Not serious.

    50. Juliet May cute student. Not serious about meetups. Talked awhile. Tried to discuss arrangement, price. Was more interested in just finding a free place to stay for a month or so in exchange for her platonic company. Sorry, my wife wouldn't go for that.

    51. Renee one message, no response.

    52. Jocelyn Talked a bit. Seemed interested in an arrangement. Gave phone number. She never texted. Not serious. Says she can add spice to your life. Seemed pretty bland and absent to me LOL.

    53. Babygray not serious about meetup and got whiff of GPS. Not worth the time.

    54. Badbrattykitty not interested in a meetup. O F er I think.

    55. Babylis quoted me 6 bills for 1 hr all covered. Too many rules. Semi-cute looking 31 year old With a decent rack but doesn't strike me as being worth the price. Could hold a convo at least.

    56. SoSoKute late 30's MILF. Messaged a few times. Got the GPS vibe, but she was definitely willing to meetup. Decided I wasn't interested as I was pursuing another option. She's in Irvine CA now.

    57. Eden says she wants to do bad things with you. But all talk and no action. Can't tell if she's a student or not. Serious ADHD though. Local looking girl so maybe just not in to white guys.

    58. Luvmeorh8 me77 - 46 year old Local woman. Pretty muscular, looks like a weightlifter type. Not really my thing but was semi-interested. Asked about arrangements then she went on vacation to CA. She never followed up afterwards.

    59. Lil_one waste of time. Can't hold a convo and not serious about meetups.

    60. Mxghtcap local girl. Doesn't seem serious about meetups. Off site for weeks at a time. May just not be in to white guys.

    61. KamaKimmy disappeared after a few days of convo. Seemed GPS. Don't waste your time.

    62. Silver hot looking girl. Not on the site very much. Don't think she's serious or might be a scammer. Account is verified, but definitely not a professional. Could be an O F er of pic seller not sure.

    63. ExcitedDuchess claims to be a bottle girl and works a poker game as a server. Tried to meetup with her at the poker game for an arrangement after game was over, she disappeared and hasn't been back. Either trying to funnel people to the game, or she's just playing games.

    64. Lovelykenziek very cute student totally my type! Messaged for a few days. Get to the part about an arrangement or meetup. Disappears and hasn't been back on site since.

    65. Obscureprincess local girl, messaged me. Says she searched and came across my profile, after reading it blah blah blah. Sounds like a salesman pitch. Bot or fake in my opinion.

    66. Sensualgoddess222 messaged for about a week. Decent convo. Could probably actually be a friend, not a fuck buddy, but doesn't seem interested in meetups. Maybe just not her type. Seems like a nice girl though.

    67. Lilinoe convo started. Never finished. Ghosted.

    68. Ludovica GPS wanted me to pay her 500 just to meet in a public place for lunch or coffee to discuss an arrangement. Yeah no. GTFOH.

    69. Little_baybea white girl with a decent ass. Wants dinner dates. Not interested in anything sexual.

    70. Victoria Goes by Vick local girl. Messaged back and forth a few days. Got to the point of meetup discussion, left on read and ghosted. I see she's active again now, but haven't bothered with reaching back out.

    71. Veesellshomes cute looking 30 year old, but is more interested in trying to sell you a house or get you to list with her. Realtor obviously. She might be open for dinner dates and trips, but she seems to have zero interest in a ppm or anything sexual.

    72. Miche tiny asian girl. Doesn't seem interested in a meetup, or younger or white guys isn't her thing.

    73. Chrlttetheprincess not serious about meetups. All talk, no action. Don't waste your time.

    74. Gardengirl messaged a few days then ghosted. Wouldn't waste time here.

    75. Jaybee197 saw where one monger said he had success with her, but not sure I buy it. Messaged back and forth for about a week. Seemed interested in a meetup or longer term arrangement. Then disappeared when it came time for particulars and actual plan to meetup. Seems sporadically active on the site also.

    76. SillySarahhh don't waste your time. Cute pics, but not serious. Total time waster.

    77. Celina in New York now apparently. Quoted my 800 for a meet with lots of rules and everything covered. No thanks.

    78. Singlesweetmom time waster. Another military spouse going through divorce. Sits at home all day playing games online. Just looking for attention. Cute, but not at all serious.

    79. May not serious. Cute, but couldn't hold a convo, no interest in meeting up.

    80. Lovelybird888 weird late 30 year old white girl in an orange bikini. She has a new profile now that is lovelybird808 but with same pic. Her pics are screenshots of pics on her phone. Also weird. You can see the arrows on the screen. Quoted me 6 bills for a meetup, but I wasn't feeling it. Says she's Polish. Talked to her on the phone and has the right accent, and said she was a delivery driver in town. Was going on about seeing some guy that was a mechanic and fixed her car but then it was breaking down again, he ran in to her walking in the parking garage yada yada. Seems like a nutcase and drama queen that I don't need to deal with. Had an LA phone number. Careful with this one.

    81. Barbiegyal wanted to sell me pics and vids for 3 bills. No thanks. I'm a hands on guy that doesn't waste money on pics and vids.

    82. BbAurora24 hot looking young girl. Messaged but she has total GPS and only wants platonic dinner dates and trips. GTFOH.

    83. AlwaysMissME profile says she's 30. I think she's early 40's though. Nice man mades but has total GPS. 8 bills for 1 hour. All kinds of rules. Nope.

    84. SumScarlet white blonde girl. Quoted 10 bills right off the bat. Sorry GPS not getting that out of me.

    85. Bbyhailey gorgeous looking asian 19 year old Messaged a few times but no response. Maybe not in to younger guys or white guys. Not sure though. I imagine she's wanting only platonic or is total GPS just looking at her, but maybe not. At any rate she's not interested in late 30's white guys.

    86. Dulcebebe Colombian girl. Doesn't actually seem interested in anything but platonic.

    87. Surfergurl999 snobby GPS white gurl looking for platonic only. Very cute though. YMMV but I wouldn't waste my time.

    88. Keababy profile claims she's looking for causal fun, but doesn't respond to messages. Looks like a local white gurl. Maybe white guys isn't her thing.

    89. Beach baby white girl with long legs. Messaged a few times. No response.

    That's all I got and all I can remember for now. There's probably another 20 or 30 not listed that I messaged once and never responded back, or deleted their profiles. Moral of this story is SA is just not worth the trouble anymore and I'll probably be deleting the app. AMPs, PD, BP, etc seem to be the only reliable outlets anymore. Too much ADHD, GPS, platonic pay me to be your friend BS, or just general time wasters and scammers, spammers, and bots / fake profiles. Good luck to those of you still here, I just don't see the value in paying 1300 a year for a site that does little to nothing to screen the female profiles and actually, in my opinion, muddies the waters with fake accounts and bots posing as real people just to cheat you out of your 100 bucks a month. That's just me.
    Great report, I was researching two of the asian girls you noted, hopefully I can communicate with them next month.

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