Sugar Babies / Arrangements

[BotoMoco]

If they don't want to play for pay ignore them. Stay strong my bruddahs LOL. Send them to match.

[Shavnluvr]

https://www.seeking.com/member/97dbb...0-0e72c46e25da

Another bigger one, Hawaiian, kinda desperate for money. Hit her up, YMMV.

For those with no common sense, don't tell her "someone from USASG said you needed money. ". Yes, for those not old enough to know Fight Club, sometimes we need to say that because it happens.

[StopDaRail2]

Excellent first encounter! I've gotten a few freebies myself, mostly by average to below average girls (4 or 5 on a 10 scale), who were horny or wanted to prove they were "worth it", but don't expect a HJ every time, young grasshopper.

And you should NEVER ever ask an amateur things like 'why don't you work at a mp? That kind of question can genuinely offend girls and might have ended your date right there. You got to pretend that they are regular girls on a match date or something, or a girl that your friend set you up wtih. You would never ask her a question like that, right? Remember, it's all a game that you got to play if you want to win!

Another thing to remember is that 400 is her number, not yours. Unless she says non-negotiable, then you should negotiate. And if she says non-negotiable, then she's either a pro or GPS so toss her back in the water. If she had told me 400, I would have countered with 200, and then she would have said 300, and so you say 300 includes anal, and if she says no, then tell her 250. And there you go. Remember that amateurs are receptionists and waitresses, so 250 is still a lot of money to them. I would not pay more than 250 for her, but I would go up to 300 for a hotter girl that's my type. Set your limits before you meet with her so that you don't make any impulsive decisions. And consider that once you set an amount, you probably can't go lower next time so make sure you are ok with the amount today.

Keep those reports coming!

Great info here! Thanks for the help.

So I finally got a meeting. Just happened to be in town and messaged this girl. Black girl that just turned 21. No car, but she was very open and I just wanted a m&g anyway. So we drove around and got to know each other. She didn't ask for anything, even for the time in the ride. She ended up giving me a HJ and I dropped her off.

Easy to meetup, since she doesn't have a job or car. But she quoted 400 + hotel for the next time we meet and I don't think her looks and body is worth it. So if any of you want to try, she's horny and ready.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9858a...b-c9c66fbda5ae

Oh yeah, and btw, I asked her why she just doesnt do stripping or massage parlor, she said she isnt a prostitute. LOL!

[Shavnluvr]

Great info here! Thanks for the help.

So I finally got a meeting. Just happened to be in town and messaged this girl. Black girl that just turned 21. No car, but she was very open and I just wanted a m&g anyway. So we drove around and got to know each other. She didn't ask for anything, even for the time in the ride. She ended up giving me a HJ and I dropped her off.

Easy to meetup, since she doesn't have a job or car. But she quoted 400 + hotel for the next time we meet and I don't think her looks and body is worth it. So if any of you want to try, she's horny and ready.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9858a...b-c9c66fbda5ae

Oh yeah, and btw, I asked her why she just doesn’t do stripping or massage parlor, she said she “isn’t a prostitute”. LOL!

[Kumu Hunter]

Let me break it down for you, from my years of experience: there are six types of women on the site: the pros, the GPS, the scammers, the platonics, the teasers, and the amateurs.

The pros are prostitutes who are on the site to find customers, and they are obvious pros because they will cut to the chase and give you a ppm number. Ignore their profiles that say they want a long-term romance, blah blah. Girls who have 'secondary' locations are almost always high priced hookers from Vegas or LA who want you to fly them out for the weekend, or are in town to see another customer and want some side income. If this is your thing, you might as well save $90 monthly fee and stick with cityx.

GPS is 'golden pussy syndrome', where a girl thinks she is worth $1000 per. She might be hot, she might be average, but somehow she arrives at this number and will waste a lot of your time. IMO, there are much better options, and if you really want to spend $1000, there's a website that you can order up porn stars, but I can't remember the name. Avoid.

The scammers are just that- girls who want you to send them money before you meet them, but are mostly likely some dude in Pakistan in front of a computer. They will say things like, send me money so I know you're real, or send me a small gift so I know you are a gentleman. Don't fall for this. Some have even asked me to paypal money so they can get a taxi to my house for mind-blowing sex. When I told her I would meet her outside to pay the taxi, I never heard from her again. LOL. And then the next day her profile was in Arizona. Avoid!

The platonics are girls who want to be arm candy for $$ or want an online relationship. Some want to 'webcam' or want you to send them money for pictures. Fortunately, they are easy to spot because they will say it on their profiles. Avoid like the plague. Use the filter function to block these girls who will only waste your time and money. Avoid!

The teasers are the worst of all: they will milk you for all your money, like a hostess bargirl without the bar. First they will start by saying they want to meet you for dinner, and ask that you provide a 'gift' to show you are sincere, or prove that you are a gentlemen. Or they will bring some friends to eat for free. GTFO. Never pay for a meet and greet. Take her to a nice but not expensive dinner. If she backs out then you know she's wasting your time. Teasers will never sleep with you, they will tease you and tell you lies and sob stories and get you to pay their rent, or pay their bills, and make every excuse not to have sex with you, knowing that as long as she teases you with sex, she can get what she wants. Every guy goes through this, just like every guy gets worked by a hostess bargirl at some point. Live and learn and move on. Just remember that she doesn't like you, she only likes your money. It's easy to see when you watch other guys blow their money, but harder when it's you, trust me, I've been there. Avoid x 100!

The amateurs are the golden fruit, the unicorns, the ones you seek. They are girls who know they need to put out and are willing to put out because they have bills to pay or kids to feed, and have shitty jobs or shitty husbands. The MOST important rule when dealing with the amateurs is do NOT make them feel like prostitutes. Yes, they are having sex for money, but they have convinced themselves that they are not prostitutes and do not want to be treated like prostitutes even though they are. So you got to play along. Even some of their profiles will say things like "I am not a prostitute" LOL. Trust me, you can have sex with them for money. Approach them like a dating site, not backpage. You need to be patient and you'll do a few back and forth messages to get to know them. Some will be forward and will tell you what they want, others will be more coy and you have to be patient. Set up a NON-paying meet and greet, I like to suggest coffee near my house, so that if things go well we can move right over to my place. Usually it takes a few meet ups so again, be patient. Discuss things like what you are looking for, and ask her what she wants, so there's no confusion. Instead of using the word sex, say 'private time' or 'sleepover', or tell her you want to be 'friends with benefits'. If she says things like 'oh, I want to go slow, you may find that you have yourself a platonic or worse, a teaser! Eject, brother, eject! But if things feel good, and she's ready for 'private time', then start talking about details, like if you want a PPM (pay per meet) or allowance. PPM range would be $200-$300, I would never pay more. Once you get into $500, you're dealing with GPS. If you decide on allowance, do NOT pay upfront, you might never see her again, and no refunds. I would offer half up front, and half at the mid-month. But set up the specifics, like how many times you want to meet up per week or month. I would suggest you start with PPM and then move to allowance, in case the sex is really bad or some other deal breaker.

I post my experiences here after I'm done with them, and there are a few guys here that trade live info with me via DM. Good luck and post your experiences too.

Great information! This is what anyone wanting to get into the sugarbowl game should read. I've found most of the girls are teasers and amateurs. I don't even bother with any that list two locations. And the ones that have any kind of "attitude" in their profile, I block. You can learn a lot about someone just by the way they write.

[StopDaRail2]

So I've been through AMPs, MT, even as far back as pennysaver ads, but I've never looked into this type of arrangement. Now I'm kinda curious about a short-term or even one-time sugarbabe. How do you guys with SOs do this without the girls stalking or blackmailing you? How do you start a conversation when seeking someone? "Hey I want to help you out if you help me out. "? LOL. Any advice is appreciated.

Let me break it down for you, from my years of experience: there are six types of women on the site: the pros, the GPS, the scammers, the platonics, the teasers, and the amateurs.

The pros are prostitutes who are on the site to find customers, and they are obvious pros because they will cut to the chase and give you a ppm number. Ignore their profiles that say they want a long-term romance, blah blah. Girls who have 'secondary' locations are almost always high priced hookers from Vegas or LA who want you to fly them out for the weekend, or are in town to see another customer and want some side income. If this is your thing, you might as well save $90 monthly fee and stick with cityx.

GPS is 'golden pussy syndrome', where a girl thinks she is worth $1000 per. She might be hot, she might be average, but somehow she arrives at this number and will waste a lot of your time. IMO, there are much better options, and if you really want to spend $1000, there's a website that you can order up porn stars, but I can't remember the name. Avoid.

The scammers are just that- girls who want you to send them money before you meet them, but are mostly likely some dude in Pakistan in front of a computer. They will say things like, send me money so I know you're real, or send me a small gift so I know you are a gentleman. Don't fall for this. Some have even asked me to paypal money so they can get a taxi to my house for mind-blowing sex. When I told her I would meet her outside to pay the taxi, I never heard from her again. LOL. And then the next day her profile was in Arizona. Avoid!

The platonics are girls who want to be arm candy for $$ or want an online relationship. Some want to 'webcam' or want you to send them money for pictures. Fortunately, they are easy to spot because they will say it on their profiles. Avoid like the plague. Use the filter function to block these girls who will only waste your time and money. Avoid!

The teasers are the worst of all: they will milk you for all your money, like a hostess bargirl without the bar. First they will start by saying they want to meet you for dinner, and ask that you provide a 'gift' to show you are sincere, or prove that you are a gentlemen. Or they will bring some friends to eat for free. GTFO. Never pay for a meet and greet. Take her to a nice but not expensive dinner. If she backs out then you know she's wasting your time. Teasers will never sleep with you, they will tease you and tell you lies and sob stories and get you to pay their rent, or pay their bills, and make every excuse not to have sex with you, knowing that as long as she teases you with sex, she can get what she wants. Every guy goes through this, just like every guy gets worked by a hostess bargirl at some point. Live and learn and move on. Just remember that she doesn't like you, she only likes your money. It's easy to see when you watch other guys blow their money, but harder when it's you, trust me, I've been there. Avoid x 100!

The amateurs are the golden fruit, the unicorns, the ones you seek. They are girls who know they need to put out and are willing to put out because they have bills to pay or kids to feed, and have shitty jobs or shitty husbands. The MOST important rule when dealing with the amateurs is do NOT make them feel like prostitutes. Yes, they are having sex for money, but they have convinced themselves that they are not prostitutes and do not want to be treated like prostitutes even though they are. So you got to play along. Even some of their profiles will say things like "I am not a prostitute" LOL. Trust me, you can have sex with them for money. Approach them like a dating site, not backpage. You need to be patient and you'll do a few back and forth messages to get to know them. Some will be forward and will tell you what they want, others will be more coy and you have to be patient. Set up a NON-paying meet and greet, I like to suggest coffee near my house, so that if things go well we can move right over to my place. Usually it takes a few meet ups so again, be patient. Discuss things like what you are looking for, and ask her what she wants, so there's no confusion. Instead of using the word sex, say 'private time' or 'sleepover', or tell her you want to be 'friends with benefits'. If she says things like 'oh, I want to go slow, you may find that you have yourself a platonic or worse, a teaser! Eject, brother, eject! But if things feel good, and she's ready for 'private time', then start talking about details, like if you want a PPM (pay per meet) or allowance. PPM range would be $200-$300, I would never pay more. Once you get into $500, you're dealing with GPS. If you decide on allowance, do NOT pay upfront, you might never see her again, and no refunds. I would offer half up front, and half at the mid-month. But set up the specifics, like how many times you want to meet up per week or month. I would suggest you start with PPM and then move to allowance, in case the sex is really bad or some other deal breaker.

I post my experiences here after I'm done with them, and there are a few guys here that trade live info with me via DM. Good luck and post your experiences too.

[Shavnluvr]

Damn, signed up yesterday, got 3 chatting outside the site, like 10 messaging on the site. Setup m&gs for next week, but 3 of them already deleted their profiles and 2 more stopped responding. LOL! Oh the hunt is on!

*what does GPS stand for?

[Hot Pocket]

Why are you asking? You can't contact them without an account. Do you want screenshots to jackoff to? I'm seriously confused with this question.

Same page as Sugafoot. How hard is it to just make a new email account?

[BotoMoco]

Amen! If they want to "take it slow" I refer them to match LOL.

I can't agree with you more. That's the same thing I tell them. WTF. Some want to catch a sucker to meet and get paid without putting out for anything. F that. My deal is pay to play if no play then no pay. To those guys paying these girls for company that's really pathetic. Grow some balls and hold your ground so we can weed these girls off of SA.

[SugaFoot]

Why do you guys post links for these SB's when it requires you to sign up?

Can't you guys post a screenshot?

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Why are you asking? You can't contact them without an account. Do you want screenshots to jackoff to? I'm seriously confused with this question.

[Honolulu Yobo]

Why do you guys post links for these SB's when it requires you to sign up?

Can't you guys post a screenshot?

I know she's been reviewed before but has any of you saw her lately? Her ass looks great and she lowered her asking price.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8ad81...0-03b9d5560cee

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[Shavnluvr]

So I've been through AMPs, MT, even as far back as pennysaver ads, but I've never looked into this type of arrangement. Now I'm kinda curious about a short-term or even one-time sugarbabe. How do you guys with SOs do this without the girls stalking or blackmailing you? How do you start a conversation when seeking someone? "Hey I want to help you out if you help me out. "? LOL. Any advice is appreciated.

[Jb Good]

Amen! If they want to "take it slow" I refer them to match LOL.

I've "dated" 8 or 9 ladies I found on SA, all included "private time". Just be clear up front. I transition from a chat on SA to an them exchange where I am very clear. Nothing upfront, that I expect social as well as private time and the "arrangement. " The flakes flake out pretty quickly, the pros generally quote an hourly rate (I don't hit up a pro from SA) and the live ones will accept a per meet arrangement.

[SugaFoot]

I know for a fact that there are guys who are paying to take girls out and giving them money for no sex. These guys think they are 'investing' in a relationship and building trust with the SB but in reality they are being suckered. These girls are professional SBs, they have their sob story about wanting to take it slow, and get to know you, and wanting to spend time with you but have to work so they need $$ to survive and spend time with you LOL. They know just how to play you because they can spot a sucker from a mile away. They probably compare notes on a site like this one and talk about us LOL.

I know this because I went through this a long time ago, and maybe every guy has to be burned by a SB before they learn not to trust them. There's a reason the site exists and it's play or be played, gentlemen.

Amen! If they want to "take it slow" I refer them to match LOL.

[StopDaRail2]

Hey guys,

Just wanted to let you know that, I met a girl on SA who thinks it's easy to get money from us.

It's one of the three finger girls.

I knew this one was bad news when she said she wanted to bring her friend when it was just supposed to be a date with me and her.

Also, she told me some monger paid dinner for her and two friends at a high end restaurant plus $300 in cash. Also some guy paid $250 to talk at Starbucks.

I know some of why'all have money to spare but I think it's ruining it for the rest of us.

I know for a fact that there are guys who are paying to take girls out and giving them money for no sex. These guys think they are 'investing' in a relationship and building trust with the SB but in reality they are being suckered. These girls are professional SBs, they have their sob story about wanting to take it slow, and get to know you, and wanting to spend time with you but have to work so they need $$ to survive and spend time with you LOL. They know just how to play you because they can spot a sucker from a mile away. They probably compare notes on a site like this one and talk about us LOL.

I know this because I went through this a long time ago, and maybe every guy has to be burned by a SB before they learn not to trust them. There's a reason the site exists and it's play or be played, gentlemen.