Sugar Babies / Arrangements

[Kumu Hunter]

Aloha,

Just a few updates.

Had a few encounters with a nice Hoale girl. Tall 5' 10. Skinny, nice butt. Kaninchen. I'd give a link but she blocked me or is off the site. She's nice but hard to schedule. It went well till she started acting flaky. Wanted money ahead of time for this and that. After the last time of one and done like an AMP girl I didn't contact her back the next time she wanted some money to hold her over till our next visit. So then she ghosted. Just a warning that she's nice, but flaky and might ask for money once she's gotten to know you.

Have a meet and great with two SB's coming up. Any info on Smallbutmighty and Sara Stacey?

Aloha, KH.

[Curious3961]

Happened to me a few times. I have a very generic pictures profile. I suggest you send a couple messages and move the conversation away from the site.

Please check you Private message.

[SugaFoot]

Need advice from veterans here. I've been on SA site for about a year or two. Have never received a warning. I was updating my pics and screen name to liven up my profile. Soon after submitting the changes for approval, I received a notice when I tried logging in that my account was permanently suspended for soliciting sex. I have never asked for sex for money on the SA message boards. Sometimes the ladies ask how much for arrangement but my response have never been so bold and brash as to say sex for money. We discuss ppm or allowance. Has this happened to any of you and if so how did you get account reinstated?

Happened to me a few times. I have a very generic pictures profile. I suggest you send a couple messages and move the conversation away from the site.

[Shavnluvr]

I hear ya. But what's messed up is that the ppm cost more than what she wants in allowance LOL. I do agree with the 1/2 bi-weekly installments. Makes sense.

[Curious3961]

You can ask for leniency and sometimes they will grant it. I had mine reinstated. Sometimes these ***** girls get pissed because you don't hook up with them and report you for trying to solicit them which is a bunch of bullshit. Its all one way like always they only believe the girls and pretty much you don't have any defense. I wrote to the site or admin and he gave me a warning and let me back on.

Thanks. I suspect you're right. I had this one gal that was stringing me along. Kept telling me she wanted to meet but on day of, always made excuse. So I emailed her back accusing her of cat fishing me as the real reason for not meeting me. She may have gotten pissed and made accusation against me to SA. Lesson learned, I'll just ignore the flakes.

[Makana9]

When I did monthly allowance, for the first couple of months, I did half at the first of the month and half at the 15th. And the arrangement was set up so that she agreed to two dates a week, for example. If she's not keeping to the schedule, for example she claims she's too busy to meet and only does one date, then don't pay the second half of her allowance until she makes up for it with three dates the next week.

I personally would not do allowance until you have done a couple of PPM first. And if you haven't had sex yet, then I would definitely not agree to allowance, because she's stringing you along.

Similar like Rail. We all got to learn someway, Fail then try to fail lest or fail better. I went from doing the allowance in the beginning (sim2 yours 2 meet / wk) then got less and less with the BS excuses, so went strictly with PPM w / no $$$ in the beginning MG, maybe I buy you lunch or Starbucks or something like that. Worked for me most of the time, but one that I noted and posts back a yr. Or so ago that was on an allowance. Plus, helped her open her business to a 2nd location. Became fwb, but alas neva last bc her friend got into the picture and long story short, they not friends anymore, no fwb bc I not suppose to tap her friend also because she was one hot piece and sluttyish as her friend put it. Yea she was, like Grace back in the day if I compare. Work your game don't let the game work you.

[BotoMoco]

Need advice from veterans here. I've been on SA site for about a year or two. Have never received a warning. I was updating my pics and screen name to liven up my profile. Soon after submitting the changes for approval, I received a notice when I tried logging in that my account was permanently suspended for soliciting sex. I have never asked for sex for money on the SA message boards. Sometimes the ladies ask how much for arrangement but my response have never been so bold and brash as to say sex for money. We discuss ppm or allowance. Has this happened to any of you and if so how did you get account reinstated?

You can ask for leniency and sometimes they will grant it. I had mine reinstated. Sometimes these ***** girls get pissed because you don't hook up with them and report you for trying to solicit them which is a bunch of bullshit. Its all one way like always they only believe the girls and pretty much you don't have any defense. I wrote to the site or admin and he gave me a warning and let me back on.

[Vajajalova]

Need advice from veterans here. I've been on SA site for about a year or two. Have never received a warning. I was updating my pics and screen name to liven up my profile. Soon after submitting the changes for approval, I received a notice when I tried logging in that my account was permanently suspended for soliciting sex. I have never asked for sex for money on the SA message boards. Sometimes the ladies ask how much for arrangement but my response have never been so bold and brash as to say sex for money. We discuss ppm or allowance. Has this happened to any of you and if so how did you get account reinstated?

Its happened to me twice. You can email the administrators to state your case and if they decide that you acted maliciously you have to create a new account with a different picture somebody that resembles you.

[Curious3961]

Need advice from veterans here. I've been on SA site for about a year or two. Have never received a warning. I was updating my pics and screen name to liven up my profile. Soon after submitting the changes for approval, I received a notice when I tried logging in that my account was permanently suspended for soliciting sex. I have never asked for sex for money on the SA message boards. Sometimes the ladies ask how much for arrangement but my response have never been so bold and brash as to say sex for money. We discuss ppm or allowance. Has this happened to any of you and if so how did you get account reinstated?

[StopDaRail2]

I'm thinking of doing a monthly allowance, but if you don't pay all up front, isn't it ppm? LOL. I'm hesitant, but I do trust the girl. Should I rethink the allowance up front?

When I did monthly allowance, for the first couple of months, I did half at the first of the month and half at the 15th. And the arrangement was set up so that she agreed to two dates a week, for example. If she's not keeping to the schedule, for example she claims she's too busy to meet and only does one date, then don't pay the second half of her allowance until she makes up for it with three dates the next week.

I personally would not do allowance until you have done a couple of PPM first. And if you haven't had sex yet, then I would definitely not agree to allowance, because she's stringing you along.

[Vajajalova]

I'm thinking of doing a monthly allowance, but if you don't pay all up front, isn't it ppm? LOL. I'm hesitant, but I do trust the girl. Should I rethink the allowance up front?

Couple of scenarios to think about.

1. You pay monthly allowance at beginning of month then a week into it you get this request. I need more money as the money you gave me for this purpose went to other purposes and now I'm short on what I needed the money for.

2. Can I have money I want to go out with my friends and treat my friend because its her birthday.

3. I need to pay my roommates share of rent as she got into a big fight with her parents and their not sending her money. Please send money or we both are getting kicked out.

Then when you want to have fun and try to arrange a day for fun you may get this comment, "Can we do another day as I'm on my period".

Or, I have to prepare finals I do not have time.

Compared to a ppm where you have control and the SB needs money. For instance, can we meet Saturday? SB response. Promise to meet me I really need the money!

Stick to ppm. Its just the way to go.

[Shavnluvr]

I couldn't agree more. If a girl tells me she wants to 'take it slow', then she should be on tinder or match. Make it clear what the arrangement is, and stick to it. If you do a monthly allowance, do NOT pay all up front.

I'm thinking of doing a monthly allowance, but if you don't pay all up front, isn't it ppm? LOL. I'm hesitant, but I do trust the girl. Should I rethink the allowance up front?

[Vajajalova]

Use your spidey senses, it is a play on both streets. When SA 1st came out, it was a little easier because of the SB that was on, some for $$, others for a buddy in crime, others had their motives. In the end, it is the Art of the Deal, be wary, very open mind, but at the same time play the game they are playing. Yes, nowadays get way more flakes, the ones that will keep you on the suji and keep jerking the bait, while others just there to fk you up. BUT, maybe you can get lucky? Get, the ones that have gotten kitty play may attest to it, while others will just keep it on the stealth. I cannot blame them, one post and then they get bombarded with all of the PMs, and hoping to get one free one. Like back in the day going to la Mancha or Cilly's or The Point, just different play on the PPM. Either got to build your game, or try sharpen your skills through walking in the weeds to get to the sweet-smelling Pua.

This should be the SD motto. Build your game. You will be graded on your successes if your not finding success then you must improve your game.

[Vajajalova]

I couldn't agree more. If a girl tells me she wants to 'take it slow', then she should be on tinder or match. Make it clear what the arrangement is, and stick to it. If you do a monthly allowance, do NOT pay all up front.

A couple times after I started an arrangement, suddenly the girl had all sorts of 'emergencies' that she needs to "borrow" money (that you'll never get back), and she's got all sorts of sob stories about sick relatives or abusive ex boyfriends, blah blah, then I cut bait and bail. After I got suckered the first time, my eyes are wide open to their games, because they are all reading the same playbook.

Monthly allowances shift the power of the game to the SB as many options open up for them create opportunities that best maximize their use of you. Best to ppm to keep the powers in your universe.

[Vajajalova]

For all the many arrangements that I've done, the connection has been good enough to get intimacy on the first arranged meeting after the meet-and-greet meeting. If there is no prior agreement or assurance of that happening, then I either cancel the meeting or express that I'm no longer interested. It's clear during the meet-and-greet that I want a friends-with-benefits type of arrangement. It doesn't matter to me how hot they are. In fact, many times the GPS, hot ones are the ones playing and stringing guys along.

Meet and greets are a complete waste of time. Best to negotiate your desires upfront. Its just a little awkward before engaging in intimacy the first time but thereafter its smooth sailing.