Sugar Babies / Arrangements

[Waerqw]

SB has a lot of bogus accounts, accounts that are simply there to bait you into spending "tokens" to see their messages. I didn't spend a lot time on that site, but I did find at least 2 "real" people on there, but one was a "professional" and the other one was a time waster, so none were real sugar baby material.

SA has a lot more real people on it and you don't need to pay to message each of them, but with that said, there is still a mix of scammers, fakes, time wasters, and GPS. However, I have had / have several great arrangements on there over the years. All were BBFS at some point and sometimes CIP because there is a degree of trust that doesn't come with seeing a "pro". If you're a good guy, keep your word, you can find sugar babies that are just like real girlfriends without all the hassle. If you're in a rush, you can try a pro and do CFS or super risky BBFS, but with a sugar baby there is a "courting" just like hooking up on tinder or meeting someone at a bar. Got to remember that "pay to play" is not really how it's supposed to work, especially once it comes to giving an allowance. Find a good baby and she might fuck you 3-4 times week because she likes it for the same allowance as 3-4 a month for one that doesn't.

I haven't been on SA for the past 2 years or so due to a ban, I've been trying SB. It definitely has a lot of bogus accounts, though I have had a few successes from SB. I can't really compare to SA since I haven't bothered remaking another account, but I definitely noticed a massive increase in the number of platonic only / time waster SBs after covid.

[NerdFriday]

On a side note, I noticed most people here talk about SA instead of SB. I've only been on SB for a short period of time as I just recently wanted a change of pace from the AMPs, the and. Kukui St. Runway, and the infrequent escort. I am actively exchanging messages on SB with several of them (from college age to cougars). I'm about out of my SB intro credit package however. Maybe SA would (in general) be a better site to check out?

SB has a lot of bogus accounts, accounts that are simply there to bait you into spending "tokens" to see their messages. I didn't spend a lot time on that site, but I did find at least 2 "real" people on there, but one was a "professional" and the other one was a time waster, so none were real sugar baby material.

SA has a lot more real people on it and you don't need to pay to message each of them, but with that said, there is still a mix of scammers, fakes, time wasters, and GPS. However, I have had / have several great arrangements on there over the years. All were BBFS at some point and sometimes CIP because there is a degree of trust that doesn't come with seeing a "pro". If you're a good guy, keep your word, you can find sugar babies that are just like real girlfriends without all the hassle. If you're in a rush, you can try a pro and do CFS or super risky BBFS, but with a sugar baby there is a "courting" just like hooking up on tinder or meeting someone at a bar. Got to remember that "pay to play" is not really how it's supposed to work, especially once it comes to giving an allowance. Find a good baby and she might fuck you 3-4 times week because she likes it for the same allowance as 3-4 a month for one that doesn't.

[Redneck 1]

Sounds like you're walking into the classic "platonic" trap. Never walk into things unsure what you're going to get. Why would you pay her 300 just to sit across from you playing on her phone? Just tell her you'd feel more comfortable meeting prior to dinner to make sure you guys are compatible.

Excellent advice.

Pay $300, plus the cost of the dinner, with no knowledge of what (if anything) will happen afterward? Doing that just encourages "parasites" to expect large amounts of cash merely for eating a free dinner.

[The Quiz]

Much mahalo for the advice. I'll also ask her various questions (once face to face) about the mutually beneficial potential. She did seem really open to get a bite to eat almost anywhere in town. I'm sure for $300, I'd be willing to eat almost anywhere. LOL.

On a side note, I noticed most people here talk about SA instead of SB. I've only been on SB for a short period of time as I just recently wanted a change of pace from the AMPs, the and. Kukui St. Runway, and the infrequent escort. I am actively exchanging messages on SB with several of them (from college age to cougars). I'm about out of my SB intro credit package however. Maybe SA would (in general) be a better site to check out?

That's an expensive dinner. Was there a set understanding that you will get after the dinner or is it just dinner at the 300? Are you looking for just a one night stand or a arm candy while out and about the town? Let us know how everything turns out.

[HogBalls69]

Sounds like you're walking into the classic "platonic" trap. Never walk into things unsure what you're going to get. Why would you pay her 300 just to sit across from you playing on her phone? Just tell her you'd feel more comfortable meeting prior to dinner to make sure you guys are compatible.

Much mahalo for the advice. I'll also ask her various questions (once face to face) about the mutually beneficial potential. She did seem really open to get a bite to eat almost anywhere in town. I'm sure for $300, I'd be willing to eat almost anywhere. LOL.

On a side note, I noticed most people here talk about SA instead of SB. I've only been on SB for a short period of time as I just recently wanted a change of pace from the AMPs, the and. Kukui St. Runway, and the infrequent escort. I am actively exchanging messages on SB with several of them (from college age to cougars). I'm about out of my SB intro credit package however. Maybe SA would (in general) be a better site to check out?

[SugaFoot]

Aloha. Just joined SB several days ago, and already lined up a dinner date for several days from now. She said her rate was $300 for the date (with of course me paying for the dinner). I'm well versed regarding the timeliness of payment, such as with an AMP (house fee up front but no tips until end of session), or and. Kukui St. Dates (no payment until end of session), with under no circumstances payment with gift cards, upfront deposits, etc.

If it's a dinner date, I would assume it falls along the same lines of no payment of the $300 until the end of the date? Any pointers in avoiding scams (once the dinner date starts) would be greatly appreciated. You may PM me if you like. Mahalo.

Sounds like you're walking into the classic "platonic" trap. Never walk into things unsure what you're going to get. Why would you pay her 300 just to sit across from you playing on her phone? Just tell her you'd feel more comfortable meeting prior to dinner to make sure you guys are compatible.

[HogBalls69]

Aloha. Just joined SB several days ago, and already lined up a dinner date for several days from now. She said her rate was $300 for the date (with of course me paying for the dinner). I'm well versed regarding the timeliness of payment, such as with an AMP (house fee up front but no tips until end of session), or and. Kukui St. Dates (no payment until end of session), with under no circumstances payment with gift cards, upfront deposits, etc.

If it's a dinner date, I would assume it falls along the same lines of no payment of the $300 until the end of the date? Any pointers in avoiding scams (once the dinner date starts) would be greatly appreciated. You may PM me if you like. Mahalo.

[LargeRocket69]

Yes I already Googled, but I guess not well enough. What exactly does "GPS" mean in this context? Mahalo.

GPS=Golden Pussy Syndrome, if I recall. It basically means the girl thinks she's worth more because she's a female, has a pussy, and feels men should basically worship her without getting much in return or at an extremely high cost.

[Redneck 1]

Yes I already Googled, but I guess not well enough. What exactly does "GPS" mean in this context? Mahalo.

In this context, it probably means "Golden Pussy Syndrome."

[HogBalls69]

This chick is giving a "masterclass" on being a sugarbaby. Probably will start seeing more GPS.

https://www.instagram.com/ceoestheticsllc/

Yes I already Googled, but I guess not well enough. What exactly does "GPS" mean in this context? Mahalo.

[Nackin12]

Check out dayuse app for discount hourly rates.

Thanks. We just did some car play, but all good. I tried to get a day use but it was in the evening so it's questionable. LOL.

[Restless1728]

Ok, got a good one lined up. Where can I get an hourly room rental or something like that? Need for a little while this evening. .

Check out dayuse app for discount hourly rates.

[Captain Nemo]

I totally agree with Brother Kbsomthin2. As it is with most things, one's results usually indicate the amount and quality of the effort they've put into it. I've been on SA, SB and AM for a long time now as I was tired of paying so much and dealing with the BS (high prices, shorting of time, upselling, bad attitude) of the newer generation of MT's (if you can even call them that). Many the MT's or I should say "providers" on Bedpage, CL, an other sites nowadays don't have a MT license and can't even give a decent rubdown, much less a therapeutic one. Many of them can't even give a decent HJ. The only thing they've got going for them is their looks. So, a while ago, I decided fuck that shit! For massages, I now only go to legit therapeutic massage thereapists. They are licensed, know what they are doing and help keep this old and battered up body running nicely.

For play, I began focusing on sharpening my game so that I could win on SA, SB and AM. I'm an old man but I do well on those sites because I've put in the work, can easily weed out the scammers and GPS bitches and know that simple honesty, respect and appreciation goes a very long way. There are some absolute gems on these sites that aren't only in it for the money. Many of them have gone through some hard times, other than financial hardship. You know, fucked up relationships (can't believe how many dumb fuckers out there treat their women like shit) or just simply a difficult life due to a whole range of other reasons. You treat them with the respect and genuine appreciation they've craved for so many years of dealing with assholes and you will win big my brother! But, you've got to put in the work. Be a gentleman. Don't send her stupid messages like "you look hot babe, I'd love to show you a good time!

Take your time to make a good first impression. She'll just delete one liners or some lazy assed generic shit. You can get a really good idea of who she is and what's important to her from either her profile or what she replies when you ask her about herself. If she seems interesting to you, then go for it. Don't try to fake your interest in her just to get in her pants because she'll see right through it. Put in the time and effort and you'll have great results brother! Good luck and much Aloha! ST.

Very nicely put ST. The wisdom of experience.

Mahalo.

[Nackin12]

Ok, got a good one lined up. Where can I get an hourly room rental or something like that? Need for a little while this evening. .

[Surfer Ten]

I totally agree with Brother Kbsomthin2. As it is with most things, one's results usually indicate the amount and quality of the effort they've put into it. I've been on SA, SB and AM for a long time now as I was tired of paying so much and dealing with the BS (high prices, shorting of time, upselling, bad attitude) of the newer generation of MT's (if you can even call them that). Many the MT's or I should say "providers" on Bedpage, CL, an other sites nowadays don't have a MT license and can't even give a decent rubdown, much less a therapeutic one. Many of them can't even give a decent HJ. The only thing they've got going for them is their looks. So, a while ago, I decided fuck that shit! For massages, I now only go to legit therapeutic massage thereapists. They are licensed, know what they are doing and help keep this old and battered up body running nicely.

For play, I began focusing on sharpening my game so that I could win on SA, SB and AM. I'm an old man but I do well on those sites because I've put in the work, can easily weed out the scammers and GPS bitches and know that simple honesty, respect and appreciation goes a very long way. There are some absolute gems on these sites that aren't only in it for the money. Many of them have gone through some hard times, other than financial hardship. You know, fucked up relationships (can't believe how many dumb fuckers out there treat their women like shit) or just simply a difficult life due to a whole range of other reasons. You treat them with the respect and genuine appreciation they've craved for so many years of dealing with assholes and you will win big my brother! But, you've got to put in the work. Be a gentleman. Don't send her stupid messages like "you look hot babe, I'd love to show you a good time!

Take your time to make a good first impression. She'll just delete one liners or some lazy assed generic shit. You can get a really good idea of who she is and what's important to her from either her profile or what she replies when you ask her about herself. If she seems interesting to you, then go for it. Don't try to fake your interest in her just to get in her pants because she'll see right through it. Put in the time and effort and you'll have great results brother! Good luck and much Aloha! ST.

Asking for our stable without putting the time and money into it to reciprocate would be a newbie move for sure. As a long time hobbyist on both seeking and secretbenefits all I can offer you is that if you're legit and polite the returns can be amazing. Lately there are more GPS type girls on both sites and it takes hours and hours of weeding out the good and bad. Put the time in and it will pay off!