Sugar Babies / Arrangements

[Cougar Bait]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...1-0b50a9c5e33a

Anyone try this one?

[NerdFriday]

From what I've been reading unless you want to give a girl an "allowance" of however thousands per week to do you this whole sugar baby thing is a waste of time. Seriously? They don't think of themselves as prostitutes so you have to develop a relationship? Sounds like regular dating to me where you may or may not ever get laid. Anybody prove me wrong?

I have nothing to prove, but as a successful SD for 5+ years, I can say that I had the time of my life. It is absolutely not like "regular dating". They can find younger guys way hotter than you (or I) to bang for free on Tinder or to date. The only way you (or I) have a chance is if we make it worthwhile. Believe it or not, these are regular girls, so yes, they do not think of themselves as prostitutes. If you treat them like prostitutes, your arrangement will not last long. Arrangements are actually a lot cheaper than regularly seeing a prostitute of the same caliber for the same services, but people don't understand this because they can't afford to see even a mediocre prostitute 4 or more times a month.

Think of it this way. You own some rental property's near UH. A college-aged girl, who is your tenant, says she's having a hard time paying rent because her part-time job is not enough. She is willing to "see you casually" if you are willing to not charge her rent. Now, the girl is not thinking of herself like a prostitute. She's thinking she's a college student who needs to do this to get through school and guys her age won't be able to help her because they are also poor college students. Because you have a landlord and tenant relationship, you both have to be polite, proper, and professional to sustain the arrangement, but you certainly don't have to be "in love". This means that you have to at least trust her when she says she's on birth control and both of you have to trust that you don't have STDs, whereas if you're going to raw dog it in a prostitute, you probably don't care either way.

How much do some guys pay for a meet and greet? Seems kinda ridiculous to pay someone just to talk to them and that's all.

I pay whatever the girl and I agree to. This could be $0 (assuming I pay for dinner or drinks) or up to $3 oo, and I'm sure it probably goes higher. You are paying "just to talk to them" in some sense, but you have to realize that if $3 oo is a big deal to you, then sugar dating is probably not for you. The girl needs to know that you're a legit sugar daddy, not a guy looking for a quick one-off with a hot young girl. To put this into perspective, if you wanted to have a PSE with a 18-25 year old pro, you might pay $1 Soo-$1 o,ooo for a single day, or you could just find a 30+ drug-addicted street walker to see 20 times. Different strokes for different folks.

[Sam H]

From what I've been reading unless you want to give a girl an "allowance" of however thousands per week to do you this whole sugar baby thing is a waste of time. Seriously? They don't think of themselves as prostitutes so you have to develop a relationship? Sounds like regular dating to me where you may or may not ever get laid. Anybody prove me wrong?

[LargeRocket69]

If you agree on an amount, put the money in an envelope or small gift bag and hand it to her at the beginning of the date. That way she'll know you are not there to waste her time and she won't have to ask you for it. Sometimes I'll write "happy birthday" on the envelope. I normally get a chuckle from that. I'm not advocating giving money for a date but sometimes when I'm traveling I just want some company for dinner and not necessarily looking for anything more. Normally dinner will last a couple hours. I would not pay a cent for a meet and greet. Just my thoughts.

How much do some guys pay for a meet and greet? Seems kinda ridiculous to pay someone just to talk to them and that's all.

[LivininDa808]

Looking back, I should of at least had the $$ ready to put down, and told the other parties who were waiting on me to f**k off. I didn't have the $$ already on me (as I was only prepared for what I though was a "simple" M&G). Lessons learned, and I hope these reports will help someone down the road not make the same mistakes I did. I have one more SD / SB M&G (hopefully) lined up for later this week. I'll keep you gentlemen posted.

If you agree on an amount, put the money in an envelope or small gift bag and hand it to her at the beginning of the date. That way she'll know you are not there to waste her time and she won't have to ask you for it. Sometimes I'll write "happy birthday" on the envelope. I normally get a chuckle from that. I'm not advocating giving money for a date but sometimes when I'm traveling I just want some company for dinner and not necessarily looking for anything more. Normally dinner will last a couple hours. I would not pay a cent for a meet and greet. Just my thoughts.

[BScotti]

Curve-a-licious.

PAWG. Solid menu and asks 3 for BBFS / CIM / CIP YMMV.

Sweetgirlhawaii.

PAWG. Solid menu and asks 2 for BBFS / BBBJ CIM YMMV.

Thiquekisses.

Thicc Local mix. Solid menu and asks 3 for.

BBFS / BBBJ YMMV.

PiperLUV3.

Thicc Local poly mix. Solid menu asks 2. 5 for.

BBFS / BBBJCIMWS / Greek on the table for xtra.

All is all SB has served me well! Good luck!

How do you search by username? I see that you can search profile text, but nothing shows up.

[NerdFriday]

Curve-a-licious.

PAWG. Solid menu and asks 3 for BBFS / CIM / CIP YMMV.

Sweetgirlhawaii.

PAWG. Solid menu and asks 2 for BBFS / BBBJ CIM YMMV.

Thiquekisses.

Thicc Local mix. Solid menu and asks 3 for.

BBFS / BBBJ YMMV.

PiperLUV3.

Thicc Local poly mix. Solid menu asks 2. 5 for.

BBFS / BBBJCIMWS / Greek on the table for xtra.

All is all SB has served me well! Good luck!

Great report! Thanks!

[NerdFriday]

Although it was my first M&G in the context of a SD / SB situation, it just seemed kinda weird. She DID initially want to meet at my place. Within a day of giving her my address, she then said she had car trouble and asked if I could meet at her place the next day. (NOTE: I live in a somewhat modern multi-bedroom house in a decent section of town). I soon discovered the place where she resides, is actually the same house (in Hawaii Kai) that I had gone to once last year, to see a well known (on this forum) MILF MT from Japan. I walked into the house. She led me into her bedroom (NOT the same bedroom where the other MT had worked on me). There was a massage table in the room with folded clothes on it, along with an actual bed, dresser, etc. We both sat on the bed.

The fact she had a massage table and you've been to that same place prior, I would think she is a "pro", and personally, I would avoid. With that said, it definitely sounds like she wanted to seal the deal that day and because that did not happen, she probably thinks you're a time waster and that's why she removed your access to her photos (no flame, just speculating as to what's going on in her mind). The good news is, if you are DTF, she's probably ready and willing, and her schedule is probably much more flexible than the average person.

I've also decided not to renew my SB account. If I decide to continue, it'll be with SA (or I'll wait until I retire in the next several years and become a SD somewhere in Thailand LOL). I'll post later this week about some of the numbers I've based my decision upon, to quit SB.

IMO, SA is much better. After I wasted maybe $$ on SB I realized like 95% of my "unlocked messages" were never read and the "people" who were DMing me never logged in again. Have you thought about trying What's Your Price? I never have because SA has been working fine for me for about 4-5 years now, but I hear there is some action to be had on there. From the way it sounds though, it might have a lot of GPS and people who actually think you'll give them $$$ twice a week for the privilege of farming them Instagram content at your expense LOL.

[Hickory747]

Curve-a-licious.

PAWG. Solid menu and asks 3 for BBFS / CIM / CIP YMMV.

Sweetgirlhawaii.

PAWG. Solid menu and asks 2 for BBFS / BBBJ CIM YMMV.

Thiquekisses.

Thicc Local mix. Solid menu and asks 3 for.

BBFS / BBBJ YMMV.

PiperLUV3.

Thicc Local poly mix. Solid menu asks 2. 5 for.

BBFS / BBBJCIMWS / Greek on the table for xtra.

All is all SB has served me well! Good luck!

[HogBalls69]

I always ask if they are willing to meet me at my place for a M&G. This is the biggest indicator they are DTF, but it is not a guarantee. Some will insist on meeting in public, which can work out, but that could also be a waste of money if you take them somewhere nice and they don't want to come back to your place after.

Although it was my first M&G in the context of a SD / SB situation, it just seemed kinda weird. She DID initially want to meet at my place. Within a day of giving her my address, she then said she had car trouble and asked if I could meet at her place the next day. (NOTE: I live in a somewhat modern multi-bedroom house in a decent section of town). I soon discovered the place where she resides, is actually the same house (in Hawaii Kai) that I had gone to once last year, to see a well known (on this forum) MILF MT from Japan. I walked into the house. She led me into her bedroom (NOT the same bedroom where the other MT had worked on me). There was a massage table in the room with folded clothes on it, along with an actual bed, dresser, etc. We both sat on the bed. We had agreed on a 15 minute M&G. The conversation however lasted about 25 minutes. I then had to go as I had an appointment to be somewhere else in an hour. We had already discussed terms about ppm and frequency. I told her that I would leave it up to her to think it over, then I would get back to her in the next day or two. As I was leaving, she said she wished I could stay longer. (Note: I am middle aged man who engages primarily in face to face conversation with a wide variety of people for a living. I also regularly go to the gym, drive a modest sedan, and otherwise earn a decent living with an amount a little above the Hawaii median total household income). I told her I wish I could stay, but I really had to go to this other locale (which I did)).

Looking back, I should of at least had the $$ ready to put down, and told the other parties who were waiting on me to f**k off. I didn't have the $$ already on me (as I was only prepared for what I though was a "simple" M&G). Lessons learned, and I hope these reports will help someone down the road not make the same mistakes I did.

I have one more SD / SB M&G (hopefully) lined up for later this week. I'll keep you gentlemen posted.

I've also decided not to renew my SB account. If I decide to continue, it'll be with SA (or I'll wait until I retire in the next several years and become a SD somewhere in Thailand LOL). I'll post later this week about some of the numbers I've based my decision upon, to quit SB.

[NerdFriday]

Obviously one of the big reasons why this message board is around (other than for braggarts who are already ready all hours of the day / evening for mongering), is to post questions / concerns, and lessons learned for others.

The first lady whom I had about a 15 minute meet and greet (at her residence) which seemed really nice. We spoke about enjoying each others company. I told her I'd get back to her in a day or two to see if she wanted to start going out on a ppm basis (at a $ amount and frequency we talked about). Sent her a text two days later. Never got a response (other than she shut down my access to her private pics on SB).

I guess my question is, how do people schedule the meeting and greet (along with the date that the ppm is used for)? Do most people just have the ppm $$$ ready right there during the meet and greet?

If anyone wants to PM me, that's fine. Again, mahalo everyone for the previous advice.

I know it's still early in the game for me, but man I may have to go back to the and. Kukui St. Runway where it's a lot more straightforward. LOL.

I always ask if they are willing to meet me at my place for a M&G. This is the biggest indicator they are DTF, but it is not a guarantee. Some will insist on meeting in public, which can work out, but that could also be a waste of money if you take them somewhere nice and they don't want to come back to your place after.

You met her at her place. This is generally not a "good vibe" in the SB world. Remember that they want you to elevate their world, not come down to theirs. They are basically seeing if you are capable of fulfilling the promises you made to them. If you live in a shithole, drive a shitty car, and took them to McDonalds on a first date, they are unlikely to believe that you will pay them $X,OOO a month or w / e you have agreed to.

However, you need to understand that most SB's do not think of themselves as prostitutes, more like Tinder dates but for $. This means you have do be at least decent looking, have decent social skills, a decent job, place, and car. Most mongers forget about all that. If you are picking up a "professional" they don't care about anything except the money. Most SB's want to have a decent "vibe" with you. They don't want you to be a filthy old man, unless you are filthy rich.

Always try to seal the deal on the day of. Sure, it doesn't always work that way, but as others have said, you need to strike while the irons hot. Once you pounded squid one time, they are much more likely to do it again, whereas if you text them back after two days, they had time to reconsider. Only during the pandemic did I see SB's who just wanted a one nighter. I had like 5 hits. It was great because they need to pay rent / school / buy food LOL. Normally SB's are looking for something regular, and usually non-monogamous.

EDIT: I forgot to add that communication is the most important aspect of sugar dating. This means communication about allowances, PPM's, and "gifts". Before you start asking them anything related to sexytime, ensure that both of you know exactly how the money will work. Sometimes they want $ for a M&G, sometimes they don't, but the point is don't guess. Both of you should know what they're getting, how much, and when. They are judging you from the moment you message them and this intensity increases once you meet them in real life. Never start parting out "services", like saying platonic is 1, sexytime is 5, and ATM or whatever is 10. M&G is one price. After that, the money is always the same, whether it's PPM or allowance. Don't bargain with their bodies. Remember, they are not "professionals". The more they like you, the more they give you. It's not a la carte.

[Waerqw]

Obviously one of the big reasons why this message board is around (other than for braggarts who are already ready all hours of the day / evening for mongering), is to post questions / concerns, and lessons learned for others.

The first lady whom I had about a 15 minute meet and greet (at her residence) which seemed really nice. We spoke about enjoying each others company. I told her I'd get back to her in a day or two to see if she wanted to start going out on a ppm basis (at a $ amount and frequency we talked about). Sent her a text two days later. Never got a response (other than she shut down my access to her private pics on SB).

I guess my question is, how do people schedule the meeting and greet (along with the date that the ppm is used for)? Do most people just have the ppm $$$ ready right there during the meet and greet?

If anyone wants to PM me, that's fine. Again, mahalo everyone for the previous advice.

I know it's still early in the game for me, but man I may have to go back to the and. Kukui St. Runway where it's a lot more straightforward. LOL.

I try to schedule the meet and greet (if they opt for it) near my place and ask them to come over at the end of the meet and greet if they're sane. In my experience, they know pretty quickly if they'll go all the way with you so I generally try to move quickly. If you schedule a follow up date rather than immediately getting them in bed, there's a pretty good chance they'll talk themselves out of it in the meantime. Got to strike while the iron's hot.

[TrialnError]

Obviously one of the big reasons why this message board is around (other than for braggarts who are already ready all hours of the day / evening for mongering), is to post questions / concerns, and lessons learned for others.

The first lady whom I had about a 15 minute meet and greet (at her residence) which seemed really nice. We spoke about enjoying each others company. I told her I'd get back to her in a day or two to see if she wanted to start going out on a ppm basis (at a $ amount and frequency we talked about). Sent her a text two days later. Never got a response (other than she shut down my access to her private pics on SB).

I guess my question is, how do people schedule the meeting and greet (along with the date that the ppm is used for)? Do most people just have the ppm $$$ ready right there during the meet and greet?

If anyone wants to PM me, that's fine. Again, mahalo everyone for the previous advice.


I know it's still early in the game for me, but man I may have to go back to the and. Kukui St. Runway where it's a lot more straightforward. LOL.

Not sure how the sugar baby meet up's work but maybe another GPS situation and also maybe disappointed no payment was made on the first meet?

[HogBalls69]

Obviously one of the big reasons why this message board is around (other than for braggarts who are already ready all hours of the day / evening for mongering), is to post questions / concerns, and lessons learned for others.

The first lady whom I had about a 15 minute meet and greet (at her residence) which seemed really nice. We spoke about enjoying each others company. I told her I'd get back to her in a day or two to see if she wanted to start going out on a ppm basis (at a $ amount and frequency we talked about). Sent her a text two days later. Never got a response (other than she shut down my access to her private pics on SB).

I guess my question is, how do people schedule the meeting and greet (along with the date that the ppm is used for)? Do most people just have the ppm $$$ ready right there during the meet and greet?

If anyone wants to PM me, that's fine. Again, mahalo everyone for the previous advice.

I know it's still early in the game for me, but man I may have to go back to the and. Kukui St. Runway where it's a lot more straightforward. LOL.

[HogBalls69]

Sounds like you're walking into the classic "platonic" trap. Never walk into things unsure what you're going to get. Why would you pay her 300 just to sit across from you playing on her phone? Just tell her you'd feel more comfortable meeting prior to dinner to make sure you guys are compatible.

Much mahalo everyone for the advice. I reached back out to her, and she never responded.

SB does seem to have quite a few bots. In my first two weeks, I have gotten one initial meet and greet out of the way (beautiful Japanese lady in her mid-20's). I'll probably start seeing her at my residence for about $400 ppm. Another one I'm planning for a meet & greet later this week (27 year old Hawaiian-Chinese. Medium build). She gave an initial quote of $300 ppm.

Seems that most of them greatly prefer to lay low at the other person's residence (for a variety of reasons).

I also got one quote of $600 for a CBJ by a 20 year old Japanese / Korean student. Would this be GLippsS or GMouthS? LOL.