Non-Pro Guidelines

**GoldenMan** · 03-29-13 16:43

Originally Posted by Wnde8 [View Original Post]

Hey Golden (and others) , have you thought about hiring other guys to do your footwork for you?

In sales we use prospectors to help us find people that have any degree of interest in hearing more about our product. The prospectors are low skill workers who are only there to save the actual, skilled sales people time and money.

I don't see any reason you couldn't do the same. You just need to think through a good way of transferring the girl from the other guy to you, of which the possibilities are endless in your case.

Yes, I've posted about this before.

Except I use the girls to do the legwork for me. Whenever I hook up with a pay-for-play girl, I ask her if she has any friends who do this, or any friends who need similar help.

It's opened up some amazing opportunities for me.

**Wnde8** · 03-29-13 09:23

Hey Golden (and others) , have you thought about hiring other guys to do your footwork for you?

In sales we use prospectors to help us find people that have any degree of interest in hearing more about our product. The prospectors are low skill workers who are only there to save the actual, skilled sales people time and money.

I don't see any reason you couldn't do the same. You just need to think through a good way of transferring the girl from the other guy to you, of which the possibilities are endless in your case.

**Blak Casper** · 11-21-12 19:53

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Just have a couple of private pics ready. Use a pic of the beach or something for the main pic

That's what I figured after my post

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-20-12 16:00

Originally Posted by PaperTiger24 [View Original Post]

I'd like to sign up for it and try it out but I've read reports on having a really hard time canceling it. Supposedly they're shady in not responding to cancellation requests. Any experience with that?

Use a card you change the number on or a green dot

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-20-12 15:59

Originally Posted by Blak Casper [View Original Post]

Do you guys at SD4ME post pictures of yourselves or as needed?

Just have a couple of private pics ready. Use a pic of the beach or something for the main pic

**PaperTiger24** · 11-20-12 13:58

I'd like to sign up for it and try it out but I've read reports on having a really hard time canceling it. Supposedly they're shady in not responding to cancellation requests. Any experience with that?

**Blak Casper** · 11-20-12 13:27

Do you guys at SD4ME post pictures of yourselves or as needed?

**HollywoodGuy** · 11-20-12 03:10

Originally Posted by Rob Taylor [View Original Post]

The sugar Daddy sites are an untapped goldmine. I only make 50K a yr but I get girls that would.

Go for 300-1000 per hour on the escort circuit for less 75-200 per hr is you do the total math. The sugar daddy sites.

Are what craigslist were in the early 2000's before pro's took over, but even better. Why because there are seven woman.

For one man on those sites, and you have way more diversity. There are four girls on there, girls looking for rich BF for a real relationshiop, girls looking for NSA hook ups for bills and or wining and dining, NP-Escorts in denial and real escorts looking for suckers.

If her ad is straight forward and has revealing clothing (she's a pro) plus you can use all the other background checking features.

To see if she is a pro. You want to find the profiles where the girls don't seem like they are looking for a relationship, and are only slightly.

Mentioning money or bills. Girls that seem pretty normal. Paying the fee to send and recieve messages seemed like a drag.

My first conquest happened my third week on the site. Was a latin girl 27 built like Kim K.

She was looking for someone to wine and dined her I eased her into paying bills, becasue I said.

I did not like to go out much. Paid her student loan bill for 200 and her cell bill 80. She did me once every two week.

For a whole month at about 2hrs a pop. Thats 4 hrs divided by 280 comes out to 70 bucks an hour. This girl could easily charge 300 bucks.

An hr if she was a pro on eros and could dominate the CL scene. I got a huge bump in price for performance over other avenues of the hobby.

I have been using the SD sites for awhile, it way more leg work fishing out the profiles and of course the monthly fee.

But its worth. I'm never going to CL or the other pro sites. I have other conqest as well. If I was in California.

I would clean up. Golden is right about one thing you need to start thinking quality over quanity

I wouldn't care if every guy on this site was on the SD sites. There would still be 5 girls for every guy. LOL

**Rob Taylor** · 11-19-12 22:52

The sugar Daddy sites are an untapped goldmine. I only make 50K a yr but I get girls that would.

Go for 300-1000 per hour on the escort circuit for less 75-200 per hr is you do the total math. The sugar daddy sites.

Are what craigslist were in the early 2000's before pro's took over, but even better. Why because there are seven woman.

For one man on those sites, and you have way more diversity. There are four girls on there, girls looking for rich BF for a real relationshiop, girls looking for NSA hook ups for bills and or wining and dining, NP-Escorts in denial and real escorts looking for suckers.

If her ad is straight forward and has revealing clothing (she's a pro) plus you can use all the other background checking features.

To see if she is a pro. You want to find the profiles where the girls don't seem like they are looking for a relationship, and are only slightly.

Mentioning money or bills. Girls that seem pretty normal. Paying the fee to send and recieve messages seemed like a drag.

My first conquest happened my third week on the site. Was a latin girl 27 built like Kim K.

She was looking for someone to wine and dined her I eased her into paying bills, becasue I said.

I did not like to go out much. Paid her student loan bill for 200 and her cell bill 80. She did me once every two week.

For a whole month at about 2hrs a pop. Thats 4 hrs divided by 280 comes out to 70 bucks an hour. This girl could easily charge 300 bucks.

An hr if she was a pro on eros and could dominate the CL scene. I got a huge bump in price for performance over other avenues of the hobby.

I have been using the SD sites for awhile, it way more leg work fishing out the profiles and of course the monthly fee.

But its worth. I'm never going to CL or the other pro sites. I have other conqest as well. If I was in California.

I would clean up. Golden is right about one thing you need to start thinking quality over quanity

**GoldenMan** · 09-01-12 12:07

Originally Posted by Shark in OC [View Original Post]

After listening to a lot of a famous radio host who is now on the internet, I figured out how to pull the hottest girls in town, married and unmarried, without spending one red cent. As he says, I have had more ass than a toilet seat, and just about all LA 10s, with little exception. The idea is that you have to make them THINK that they are going to get your money, even if you don't have it. It's not hard to do in LA with so many hard-up gold diggers.

-Shark-

Mr Leykis, can you break down your technique for us, for scoring LA 10s? I gave you detailed info on how I operate.

Thank you.

**HollywoodGuy** · 08-28-12 03:15

Originally Posted by Mphelper909 [View Original Post]

Funny you say that they pay for nothing.

I have a friend that bought a Ferrari in Newport Beach.

They gave him some Ferrari Fila shoes for free.

The shoes were so ugly but they sold for alot of money at the time.

He also has a GTR BMW X6 and I have seen his other cars.

Women just want to be around the crumbs of money.

He told me he has been followed by women on the freeway because they want to meet him.

The women that followed him had money also, his guess was that they married some poor fool and wanted to fuck on the side.

The women were in luxury cars also.

I wish I was attracted to women over 25. Because a lot of them are rich. I. M jewish. If I wanted to suck up to some older divorced / widowed and over 40 bh broad. Shit they wouldn't care if I was taking the bus. I have spent the big bucks. Now I drive a bmw. That I paid 15k for and I get the same mileage as ever. But a ferrari or bentley. And then getting what for free. LOL. There is no free. You are going to pay one way or the other. I love it when those housewives from wherever are giving me the evil eye at the restaurant when I am with some 19 year old. Because no matter how much money they have they can never be 19.

**Mphelper909** · 08-27-12 12:08

Originally Posted by Helfarch [View Original Post]

I work with a lot of people who have truly massive amounts of money (I'm not one of them) and I have observed this quite often. The more money you have, the less you have to pay for anything. I'm friends with a couple of actors whose names you might recognize, and neither one of them has paid for a piece of clothing or tickets to an event in years. It's just the way it is.

Funny you say that they pay for nothing.

I have a friend that bought a Ferrari in Newport Beach.

They gave him some Ferrari Fila shoes for free.

The shoes were so ugly but they sold for alot of money at the time.

He also has a GTR BMW X6 and I have seen his other cars.

Women just want to be around the crumbs of money.

He told me he has been followed by women on the freeway because they want to meet him.

The women that followed him had money also, his guess was that they married some poor fool and wanted to fuck on the side.

The women were in luxury cars also.

**Helfarch** · 08-27-12 11:04

Originally Posted by GoldenMan [View Original Post]

I realize that this may have been unclear in my earlier post about finding amateur girls on the street. Just because I'm showing off money, doesn't mean I'm spending more money. Especially since the girl has never had a guy explicitly pay her for companionship, and she doesn't even view the relationship in those terms anyway. Yes I'm taking her out to dinner and making her $400 car payment and $100 cell phone bill, but for what I get in return it's extremely cheap.

I work with a lot of people who have truly massive amounts of money (I'm not one of them) and I have observed this quite often. The more money you have, the less you have to pay for anything. I'm friends with a couple of actors whose names you might recognize, and neither one of them has paid for a piece of clothing or tickets to an event in years. It's just the way it is.

**HollywoodGuy** · 08-23-12 18:14

Originally Posted by BayGuy7 [View Original Post]

The real challenge is to get it for free without using any money to attract them, we all know is easier using money.

I guess we can all agree that time is money. Getting a girl for free. Haha. There is no free. If I go out and spend 3 to 4 hours trying to meet girls here or there. It is way cheaper for me to just go online and pay whatever amount for some guaranteed action. If you have a 9 to 5 job well then I guess you have a lot of free time. But if you don't. Then its a totally different equation.

**Member #5087** · 08-23-12 15:23

Originally Posted by GoldenMan [View Original Post]

I agree 100%

These guys who are paying $100 or $150 per date to some "non-pro" on craigslist are actually paying way too much. They're treating girls like escorts but somehow tricking themselves into thinking they have a amateur. It's hilarious. Especially when they post a picture and a few other guys chime in that they've already banged her.

My preference is to get a quality girl on a long-term basis, like I've been saying. Even if I'm making her car payment and cell phone payment, it's still peanuts if you consider what I'm getting in return.

Can you break down your technique for us?

The real challenge is to get it for free without using any money to attract them, we all know is easier using money.