Non Pro's

**SocratesRvng** · 02-20-24 19:05

Originally Posted by MarkoRamius [View Original Post]

I'm pretty clear with my expectations with these girls (and that is ALWAYS a good idea) and I rarely go for girls who just want to meet up for an hour. My expectations are that we spend three or four hours together, minimum. That might include dinner or drinks but it might also be a sweaty fuckfest where we go for seconds and thirds and even fourths. That's what I consider fair for 400 to 500. Exceptionally skilled girls or girls with very generous boundaries might be able to ask for more and I might oblige them.

As you should be! I more referring to the ones who are looking to charge like a pro where it's based on 1 hook up and go. Those ladies can kick rocks!

**Marko Ramius** · 02-20-24 17:51

Originally Posted by SocratesRvng [View Original Post]

... In turn, most of these women have to only spend one hour with any given person from the site. There is definitely more loss on the male's side when it comes to equity in these arrangements.

I'm pretty clear with my expectations with these girls (and that is ALWAYS a good idea) and I rarely go for girls who just want to meet up for an hour. My expectations are that we spend three or four hours together, minimum. That might include dinner or drinks but it might also be a sweaty fuckfest where we go for seconds and thirds and even fourths. That's what I consider fair for 400 to 500. Exceptionally skilled girls or girls with very generous boundaries might be able to ask for more and I might oblige them.

**SkeletonKey6** · 02-20-24 17:12

Originally Posted by CornholeBi [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-63c585b69552
...when I asked for another selfie it was a terrible photoshop of the first one. Like. Idiotically obvious...
...The VIDS and pics I got were so damn hot.

If these hoes have gotten tech savvy enough to create deep fake VIDS of themselves I would give the Seeking site a hard pass.

**SocratesRvng** · 02-20-24 15:33

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...e-6944891adb5e

Talked to this one on Friday night. Got her number which was a 636 area code. I'm originally from the St. Louis, MO area so I recognized it immediately and she said she was from that area. Come to think about it, I recognize the profile from the STL-SA area.

She seemed cool and complained about some guy stiffing her on pics she sent him. She said I was so cool she sent the pics to me just because. Benign pics (scantily clad) but nothing to get excited about. Anyway, we were going on and on. Never got into the "how much talk". She said she just moved to Washington from Missouri a couple weeks ago and is starting a job but is struggling with COL.

At one point she claimed she was trying to scrounge up change to get something to eat so she was Foor Dashing or Uber Eats-ing, I guess. It was about 9 pm and she was complaining that she was $15 short in a way to suggest she needed help but didn't outright ask. I played dumb then she came out and just asked if I could send her $20. I told her no help until we've actually met up already. She begged that she would give me address and then give apartment number once I sent the money. Haha, good one. I knew then.

Threw that yoke off!

So-Crates.

**SocratesRvng** · 02-20-24 15:24

Originally Posted by HelloThar [View Original Post]

Oof, was chatting with one of these. Thanks for saving me the trouble. I've been holding off lately on discussing ppm early, but maybe I should go back to that to avoid wasting time.

A lot of these women get random offers so their ppm levels adjust accordingly, but it's still ridiculous. You might as well get someone you know is good on the other board, go for 2 hours, and call it a day at these rates. You wouldn't have to text for days either.

I honestly think a lot of these girls / women are quoting high numbers to see what sticks. They often asking almost a question. "600?" And try to see if the man will bite. None, and I do mean none of these woman are worth that much.

I talked to one last night who is cool and she said "how do you benefit a woman who is willing to be attentive to you when your needs need fulfillment?" I told her to turn that question around. How does any woman benefit me for helping with my hard earned money. I'm the one who has to work 40+ hours a week to get paid. In turn, most of these women have to only spend one hour with any given person from the site. There is definitely more loss on the male's side when it comes to equity in these arrangements.

Now I'm not calling to be cheap but I'm certainly calling to be real in the perceived value of the pussy LOL it ain't $600/ pop.

So-Crates.

**CornholeBi** · 02-20-24 15:19

Originally Posted by MarkoRamius [View Original Post]

Yes, there are a lot of scams and bad people on those sites.

Right off the bat, if someone favorites me or sends me a message without viewing my profile that is really suspicious and kind of weird.

Second, the photos. If the photos are obviously not from around here, and especially if they are from someplace like Italy or Greece give it all a miss. At best 99% of the time they will have unrealistic expectations and be obnoxiously entitled.

If they are either really evasive about giving you a phone number or paradoxically, give you a phone number in their first couple of messages, that is a scammy smell.

Once you are switched off of messaging on the site and in contact via phone you can both exchange photos and at that point you get a clue what she really will look like.

Girls who switch cities around are to be avoided.

If you discover they have lied to you early on just remember that is only the first lie and will never be the only or last one.

Use tineye to figure out where else their photos have been. That can help you find fakes and also can help you figure out if she is just a regular working girl looking to overcharge you.

I'd upvote you if I could. Been messaging a few girls and this one and I had a lot of back and forth.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-63c585b69552

Long story short, she was able to produce a selfie of her with one of my requests but then the next time after a few exchanges of pics we were going to meet up. Gave me an address to a central apartment but when I asked for another selfie it was a terrrible photoshop of the first one. Like. Idiotically obvious. Wouldn't give me any other attempt or request just said they were totally different.

Bummer. The vids and pics I got were so damn hot. Would have loved to actually meet this chick.

**BreastObsessed** · 02-20-24 15:12

Originally Posted by Johnnieb33 [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-ff7c6821d207

I saw her. She's expensive but she's very sexy. Bbfscip.

**HelloThar** · 02-20-24 14:21

Originally Posted by Bronco62 [View Original Post]

A couple of ones that seemed promising at first but went downhill after switching to text. Both over 30, not bad looking, well spoken and both a little delusional.

This one wanted "at least $600 ppm".

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...5-59a40d936213

This one wanted $750 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...c-dd0232ddade8

Oof, was chatting with one of these. Thanks for saving me the trouble. I've been holding off lately on discussing ppm early, but maybe I should go back to that to avoid wasting time.

A lot of these women get random offers so their ppm levels adjust accordingly, but it's still ridiculous. You might as well get someone you know is good on the other board, go for 2 hours, and call it a day at these rates. You wouldn't have to text for days either.

**Bronco62** · 02-20-24 13:37

A couple of ones that seemed promising at first but went downhill after switching to text. Both over 30, not bad looking, well spoken and both a little delusional.

This one wanted "at least $600 ppm".

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...5-59a40d936213

This one wanted $750 ppm.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...c-dd0232ddade8

**HelloThar** · 02-20-24 13:19

Originally Posted by SkeletonKey6 [View Original Post]

If so, I think I will stick to AMPs.

Honestly you have to be willing to go more for the GND look as you're trying to get a little more of a connection while hoping for multiple hours of fun.

Not to mention Seattle doesn't have the best looking women, and if they are available, they likely get taken quickly or have GPS due to numbers skewed in their favor.

You have to invest a ton of time into SA and the payoff can fluctuate wildly, especially when compared to the other board where you can just text someone up any given day.

**SkeletonKey6** · 02-20-24 12:49

Originally Posted by EddyWhtwtr [View Original Post]

Great advice. Thanks for sharing, this should get pinned to the top of the forum.

Excellent list of shit to watch out for, not just in Seeking, but all dating apps.

**EddyWhtwtr** · 02-20-24 03:09

Originally Posted by MarkoRamius [View Original Post]

Yes, there are a lot of scams and bad people on those sites.

Right off the bat, if someone favorites me or sends me a message without viewing my profile that is really suspicious and kind of weird.

Second, the photos. If the photos are obviously not from around here, and especially if they are from someplace like Italy or Greece give it all a miss. At best 99% of the time they will have unrealistic expectations and be obnoxiously entitled.

If they are either really evasive about giving you a phone number or paradoxically, give you a phone number in their first couple of messages, that is a scammy smell.

Once you are switched off of messaging on the site and in contact via phone you can both exchange photos and at that point you get a clue what she really will look like.

Girls who switch cities around are to be avoided.

If you discover they have lied to you early on just remember that is only the first lie and will never be the only or last one.

Use tineye to figure out where else their photos have been. That can help you find fakes and also can help you figure out if she is just a regular working girl looking to overcharge you.

Great advice. Thanks for sharing, this should get pinned to the top of the forum.

**SkeletonKey6** · 02-20-24 00:12

If so, I think I will stick to AMPs.

Originally Posted by Johnnieb33 [View Original Post]

This one wanted 500 per visit https://members.seeking.com/member/b...5-ff7c6821d207

**Marko Ramius** · 02-19-24 22:09

Originally Posted by SkeletonKey6 [View Original Post]

...
How many of these are scams?

If I pay that ridiculously high $300 / month subscription what are some of less obvious scams to watch out for?

Do most of the women hide 50 lbs of lard and 10+ years of aging in their profile pics like most other dating sites?

Yes, there are a lot of scams and bad people on those sites.

Right off the bat, if someone favorites me or sends me a message without viewing my profile that is really suspicious and kind of weird.

Second, the photos. If the photos are obviously not from around here, and especially if they are from someplace like Italy or Greece give it all a miss. At best 99% of the time they will have unrealistic expectations and be obnoxiously entitled.

If they are either really evasive about giving you a phone number or paradoxically, give you a phone number in their first couple of messages, that is a scammy smell.

Once you are switched off of messaging on the site and in contact via phone you can both exchange photos and at that point you get a clue what she really will look like.

Girls who switch cities around are to be avoided.

If you discover they have lied to you early on just remember that is only the first lie and will never be the only or last one.

Use tineye to figure out where else their photos have been. That can help you find fakes and also can help you figure out if she is just a regular working girl looking to overcharge you.