Non Pro's

[EasyLife772]

So do you have anything to input about this one specifically or are you just speaking in general terms?

Yea mine always tell me I'm the only one!! Women are known for their faithfulness. Haha.

We're all f-ing the same women!! So y'all Ninjas stay out of TX! Ok? Hahaha.

[PriceIsRight39]

Yep, I've had several long term sugars and we were exclusive. Always more reliable than a traditional relationship.

Yea mine always tell me I'm the only one!! Women are known for their faithfulness. Haha.

We're all f-ing the same women!! So y'all Ninjas stay out of TX! Ok? Hahaha.

[EasyLife772]

Exclusive? LOL sure.

Yep, I've had several long term sugars and we were exclusive. Always more reliable than a traditional relationship.

[HelloThar]

Yeah, that has been getting worse for a while.

I read somewhere that around half of people aged 18 to 34 have a diagnosable mental health condition. I also fucking believe it. In my professional life I have to hire and fire a lot of folks in that age range and it is pretty stunning how many seriously fucked up people are walking around out there.

And let's face it, if you are an attractive younger female with debilitating anxiety and depression SA is someplace you are very likely to end up. My own experience is about ninety percent of the ladies on those sites do have a significant mental health issue. And I'd also say if you are kind and a little bit patient ninety percent of the time it isn't an issue. Also it can work for you because a lot of them are seriously uncomfortable in a public place like a restaurant so you can just move the whole meetup to someplace private and let things proceed from there.

If that sounds awful, it kind of is. But in practice if I meet someone and it is obvious (and it will be obvious) that they aren't able to handle the situation for whatever reason I cut things off early, preferably before we get all naked. On the other side of it nobody is going to take responsibility for your safety and well-being in these situations except you, so you need to do what it takes to take care of yourself and keep yourself safe.

I use those kinds of terms about safety because I've met more than a couple of girls on that site who were, I judged, capable of stabbing me in my sleep or burning my house down. So that shit is out there.

I'm of the same opinion regarding making sure they have their shit together early. Not looking for drama, especially if we're having to trust one another in private.

And it works most of the time -- I can 'usually' tell in text and would say it's a rarity to meet anyone unhinged by that point. But I've heard some bad stories about meetups. For me, it's when disagreements come up down the road and no matter how polite you are, you start seeing the other side of people when they don't get their way. I get it in some ways, you're a source of income and now that's being threatened. But we're not obligated to give them anything if we don't see them and they don't have to meet us.

I think much of the entitlement also comes from having a large amount of attention on SA. How dare this guy drop me when I have all these other guys at my beck and call?

One trick I've learned on SA is that if you share private photos, taking away permissions has just as much of a chance in getting a greeting as anything else. Something about seeing that prompt 'their private photos have been unshared' triggers insecurities.

[PoonHound1969]

Any intel on this one? First encounters have gone excellent but if I lock down a sugar and drop the roses needed for this one I want to be sure it's a safe and exclusive situation.

Exclusive? LOL sure.

[Marko Ramius]

Is it just me or do the women on SA take it extremely poorly when you end things with them. I do it out of courtesy each time, but I'm beginning to think just ghosting is the better option with how badly many take it...

Yeah, that has been getting worse for a while.

I read somewhere that around half of people aged 18 to 34 have a diagnosable mental health condition. I also fucking believe it. In my professional life I have to hire and fire a lot of folks in that age range and it is pretty stunning how many seriously fucked up people are walking around out there.

And let's face it, if you are an attractive younger female with debilitating anxiety and depression SA is someplace you are very likely to end up. My own experience is about ninety percent of the ladies on those sites do have a significant mental health issue. And I'd also say if you are kind and a little bit patient ninety percent of the time it isn't an issue. Also it can work for you because a lot of them are seriously uncomfortable in a public place like a restaurant so you can just move the whole meetup to someplace private and let things proceed from there.

If that sounds awful, it kind of is. But in practice if I meet someone and it is obvious (and it will be obvious) that they aren't able to handle the situation for whatever reason I cut things off early, preferably before we get all naked. On the other side of it nobody is going to take responsibility for your safety and well-being in these situations except you, so you need to do what it takes to take care of yourself and keep yourself safe.

I use those kinds of terms about safety because I've met more than a couple of girls on that site who were, I judged, capable of stabbing me in my sleep or burning my house down. So that shit is out there.

[HelloThar]

Is it just me or do the women on SA take it extremely poorly when you end things with them. I do it out of courtesy each time, but I'm beginning to think just ghosting is the better option with how badly many take it.

Have seen stuff from name-calling to blaming me for their deadfishing (my favorite, and I only met them once) to personality shifts. Hell, a couple have tried to get me to send them money as an obvious last hurrah when I'm pretty sure I'll never see them again. Some of these are women I've seen for months.

There's also this sentiment that you owe them the same thing even if they try to change the terms, then they lash out when that doesn't work for you. It's especially apparent when they get complacent about meetups. You definitely get a thicker skin over time dealing with all the bullshit.

Sort of a rant, but hopefully many can relate and / or learn from the 1 year mark that I've been on SA.

[HelloThar]

Anyone else getting the sense of an uptick in chat bots via text? I am on the search again and have had three or four profiles that all ask question after question with generic responses in text. A couple went sexual very quickly again just question after question. One seems to repeat a sentence or two regularly.

It's like chatting to a reverberating wall. I did accuse one of it / said sorry if I was wrong to which she called me a liar and told me to go away. LOL. Again, a very odd response. How was I lying?

Getting annoyed. Search seems more difficult this time round than previous times.

One thing I try to do is have them initiate the conversation just so I can sus out scammers / bots. They should be asking questions about your initial message or profile.

I noticed a lot of illegitimate profiles will just agree to whatever you say and you're doing most of the texting. Even a simple question asking you what your ideal arrangement is like is better than 'how are you?

You can usually tell who is fake within 1 or 2 messages.

[Paradigum]

Anyone else getting the sense of an uptick in chat bots via text? I am on the search again and have had three or four profiles that all ask question after question with generic responses in text. A couple went sexual very quickly again just question after question. One seems to repeat a sentence or two regularly.

It's like chatting to a reverberating wall. I did accuse one of it / said sorry if I was wrong to which she called me a liar and told me to go away. LOL. Again, a very odd response. How was I lying?

Getting annoyed. Search seems more difficult this time round than previous times.

[EasyLife772]

Any intel on this one? First encounters have gone excellent but if I lock down a sugar and drop the roses needed for this one I want to be sure it's a safe and exclusive situation.

[HelloThar]

Invest in some image search apps on your phone. This one came up posted on jenny_seahawks profile on X. I would proceed with caution. I saw photos on that account of other girls from WYP and seeking, one is a catfish I cancelled on when she sent me a selfie of her real face.

Reminds me that I like to tell women I'm picture / 'ID' / whatever verified and they're not when I ask for them to do a selfie verification pic. Even though being verified probably means jack shit on the site as I imagine the systems pass everything. But at least they are more likely to follow through when you say that.

Granted there's zero reason for them to deny sending a pic anyway unless they have something to hide.

[Mamouna]

Anyone meet her yet? https://members.seeking.com/member/f...3-ff061d320220.

Invest in some image search apps on your phone. This one came up posted on jenny_seahawks profile on X. I would proceed with caution. I saw photos on that account of other girls from WYP and seeking, one is a catfish I cancelled on when she sent me a selfie of her real face.

[Mamouna]

Yeah, but I'll still bet that on average anyone playing on a sugar site is spending more money than the average monger. So effectively you are getting a volume discount.

I routinely get overnighters for 500-600 so that is a far better deal than you'd get from any escort. What I tell 'them is that my "fee schedule" is from 400 to 600 for a date, with the expectation that at 600 they are spending the night. That has worked fine so far and I think it is reasonable and fair. Some ladies I see can only get away for relatively short periods of time (like 4-5 hours) so they usually go for 400.

A lot of it is I find any kind of negotiation a massive turn-off and it doesn't take much upselling and GPS to make me look elsewhere. Also I intensely dislike girls who constantly hit me up for money between dates and that often makes me drop otherwise serviceable girls like toxic waste.

Yikes. No wonder it sucks in Seattle for regular guys now. Sorry, my guy, your logic is flawed. I hope that for 600 a SB date, they are top quality. Because you're always paying more than their fee. Hotels, dinners, activities. You're probably closer to $800 - for an amateur. Most guys aren't hosting, and spending an entire evening with someone is an effort. So you can't say the value is better across the board.

The point of SB for me is the medium to long term experience, not just poon-hunting. Over time, you build a rapport. When those relationships work, the returns are pretty sweet because they start adding extras, going bare, GFE. That's what makes SB better than escorts, IMO.

[TegMan1]

Truly. Those prices are way too lower than anything I have seen quoted.

He's probably A really good looking dude.

[HelloThar]

Yeah, but I'll still bet that on average anyone playing on a sugar site is spending more money than the average monger. So effectively you are getting a volume discount.

I routinely get overnighters for 500-600 so that is a far better deal than you'd get from any escort. What I tell 'them is that my "fee schedule" is from 400 to 600 for a date, with the expectation that at 600 they are spending the night. That has worked fine so far and I think it is reasonable and fair. Some ladies I see can only get away for relatively short periods of time (like 4-5 hours) so they usually go for 400.

A lot of it is I find any kind of negotiation a massive turn-off and it doesn't take much upselling and GPS to make me look elsewhere. Also I intensely dislike girls who constantly hit me up for money between dates and that often makes me drop otherwise serviceable girls like toxic waste.

The fee schedule part I imagine works well and gives them some flexibility. I'm sure you still run across many that say 600 for 1 or 2 hours 'I know my worth' and you move on.

I actually appreciate those that don't immediately go for the high end too when you give them a range. Showing the ability to compromise is a huge green flag to me and likely a testament to a good personality, but it's fairly rare. It makes me want to work with them.

The ones who are rigid and set on X amount due to worries about devaluing themselves seem to do it well enough themselves, especially when not every meet with every person is the same.