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[TheNovelist]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...2-0115cb586a70

Ugh. Started out saying she's not into ppm, knowing I'm probably not interested I continued, she balked at $1000/ mo allowance (that I'd never pay anyway). Private pics she's hiding her stomach, tits and arms suggest she's rather hefty. Bad attitude to boot, says she's not getting many takers. Gee I wonder why.

She's not attractive enough for even that level, IMO.

[MyNickname]

Your evaluation of the situation is not taking into account the no growth of economy which is what economists are saying we will experience alongside of inflation.

The core of the problem I think is that this time it will be a global phenomena. In the past there were always other countries or regions of the world that were pulling up the global economy. Typically it was US consumers thanks to fed quantitative easing. This time around the fed cannot do another round of quantitative easing. Simply put, the reality of the size of the debt and current flush of cash in the economy has the fed cornered and forcing the fed to remove money from the economy.

The problem is that even with the rising interest rates and falling stock prices, the Fed has still flooded the economy with trillions of dollars. Most Americans don't understand inflation and think of it as corporate greed or something that just "happens", but the fact is that inflation is and always has been a monetary phenomena. When you expand the money supply, you'll get rising prices -- you simply have to. This is why we have shortages in products and labor. The only way to get things back into balance is to pay everyone more and raise the prices on everything.

I could go on and on about this, but it would stray too far off the main topic. So no, I don't think GPS is coming to an end. If anything, what you're going to see is that a new level of outlandish prices will be set along with a new normal for the cost of all other goods and servers. Oh, and if you want your salary to get reset to proper levels, you're probably going to have to change jobs.

[TnaPorter]

Is this the beginning of the end of GPS? Tech and the markets crashing. Next the market gets flooded with laid-off SB's. Laid-off SD's who leave the market. Supply and demand.

The problem is that even with the rising interest rates and falling stock prices, the Fed has still flooded the economy with trillions of dollars. Most Americans don't understand inflation and think of it as corporate greed or something that just "happens", but the fact is that inflation is and always has been a monetary phenomena. When you expand the money supply, you'll get rising prices -- you simply have to. This is why we have shortages in products and labor. The only way to get things back into balance is to pay everyone more and raise the prices on everything.

I could go on and on about this, but it would stray too far off the main topic. So no, I don't think GPS is coming to an end. If anything, what you're going to see is that a new level of outlandish prices will be set along with a new normal for the cost of all other goods and servers. Oh, and if you want your salary to get reset to proper levels, you're probably going to have to change jobs.

[CreamPieGuy543]

Is this the beginning of the end of GPS? Tech and the markets crashing. Next the market gets flooded with laid-off SB's. Laid-off SD's who leave the market. Supply and demand.

[DrtyHarry]

There are sites like this one where women talk. I don't know where they are (probably Reddit), but a SB I had several months ago always mentioned asking questions on a site and other SBs answered them. They definitely steered her wrong. The reason why everyone initially wants $500/ ppm isn't because that's a good number, it's because they've been told repeatedly to ask for that. I'm 100% positive about that. I tried to move her to an allowance and she went back to the site and they told her to ask for $6 K per month. That's when I dumped her.

I have had a similar experience in the past where a lady on SA implied that she was getting information on who to see and blacklist etc. I did not try to find out where she went for this intel. But she definitely implied that there is information out there.

[Loopguystl]

I think it is much more nefarious. I made a fake account as a girl and searched for myself. Filters or not, I am not in the search results or any of their pages. I am a premium member and doesn't show up in the girls' searches. Which makes me wonder if my messages are being delivered at all!

There are sites like this one where women talk. I don't know where they are (probably Reddit), but a SB I had several months ago always mentioned asking questions on a site and other SBs answered them. They definitely steered her wrong. The reason why everyone initially wants $500/ ppm isn't because that's a good number, it's because they've been told repeatedly to ask for that. I'm 100% positive about that. I tried to move her to an allowance and she went back to the site and they told her to ask for $6 K per month. That's when I dumped her.

[Michael1967]

There's some shady shit with SA. It's already known certain premium girls can read the messages we send to others. I find it weird when I'm actively favoriting and messaging girls I'll get several profiles messaging me out of the blue.

Other girls have sent me messages where they already seem to know what I'm looking for. I'm convinced there's a section on the site or list somewhere these girls are referencing that has details about us mongers... Could be beneficial to periodically refresh your persona if you're not getting hits for whatever reason.

There are sites like this one where women talk. I don't know where they are (probably Reddit), but a SB I had several months ago always mentioned asking questions on a site and other SBs answered them. They definitely steered her wrong. The reason why everyone initially wants $500/ ppm isn't because that's a good number, it's because they've been told repeatedly to ask for that. I'm 100% positive about that. I tried to move her to an allowance and she went back to the site and they told her to ask for $6 K per month. That's when I dumped her.

[Michael1967]

It sounds kind of complicated and rife with the possibility of blowing a bunch of money for nothing. I think I may need to quit reading these threads and just try it though as from what you said, it sounds like a really, really good resource. For one, I browsed some women in the cities I will need to travel to in the upcoming couple months and there are way, way less women there. That alone makes me think it might be better because it sort of gives me the impression that there might be a higher percentage of real women on that site.

I appreciate your input here!

You can blow a bunch of money for nothing, so like I said, make sure the profile looks legit. If they are too lazy to write two paragraphs about themselves, then they probably are scammers. I also believe if you pay and the person is a scammer you can report them and get your money back. I haven't tried that yet. I believe I encountered two scammers (or they were just stupid) and 4 or 5 that really weren't interested in dates (though they accepted) and one who wanted $150 and was like, "I need to get my nails done at 3:30 on Wednesday, so I'll meet you at the Starbucks at 3:15 on Wednesday next to the nail place. " That was a no. She then tried about 4 other dates, where we met at a Starbucks for 5-10 minutes. I finally blocked her. Some people just think we're stupid.

[Exton]

How did why'all do it? I can't even get her to look at my profile.

Consider that she's not fucking her way thru Seattle only on SA. If she's not asking for money she's probably enamored with someone and will return when bored with them. The women I've met from there typically have one to three guys they're seeing or considering. If you're not it then your timing is off or your profile is; just move the fuck on. It's midterms at UW, SPU and SU or just was. Students attention spans comes in waves off SA.

As for her not looking at your profile specifically, her profile is premium. She can look at your profile and it won't show on your end if she sets it that way. I'm sure a clinical psych PhD student can figure that out. She very obviously has a lot of you figured out.

[TnaPorter]

So, when you and a woman agree on a date. You must "open" the conversation. To do this, you pay X number of credits based on the amount that you agree on. The woman cannot contact you until you pay those credits (I made this mistake at first and didn't understand why no one contacted me). Because of this, you need to be careful of the profiles that you set up dates with. For me, if they don't fill out what they are looking for and what they want to do on a date, I assume they are a fake profile. Also, there are women that will send you an offer for a date for $5, so you don't have to pay much to open the conversation and then will try and negotiate an amount with you based on what you're looking for.

Like SA, do not discuss sex for money in your messages, move to text or what other medium you use to contact women online.

It sounds kind of complicated and rife with the possibility of blowing a bunch of money for nothing. I think I may need to quit reading these threads and just try it though as from what you said, it sounds like a really, really good resource. For one, I browsed some women in the cities I will need to travel to in the upcoming couple months and there are way, way less women there. That alone makes me think it might be better because it sort of gives me the impression that there might be a higher percentage of real women on that site.

I appreciate your input here!

[Michael1967]

How do credits work on WYP? I know how much they cost (they're very clear about that) but can't find any info about how many credits is enough. Help? I've got plenty of offers happening, just haven't accepted any bc I don't know what's next.

So, when you and a woman agree on a date. You must "open" the conversation. To do this, you pay X number of credits based on the amount that you agree on. The woman cannot contact you until you pay those credits (I made this mistake at first and didn't understand why no one contacted me). Because of this, you need to be careful of the profiles that you set up dates with. For me, if they don't fill out what they are looking for and what they want to do on a date, I assume they are a fake profile. Also, there are women that will send you an offer for a date for $5, so you don't have to pay much to open the conversation and then will try and negotiate an amount with you based on what you're looking for.

Like SA, do not discuss sex for money in your messages, move to text or what other medium you use to contact women online.

[DeadEye206]

How do credits work on WYP? I know how much they cost (they're very clear about that) but can't find any info about how many credits is enough. Help? I've got plenty of offers happening, just haven't accepted any bc I don't know what's next.

[BlackMarketBb]

How did why'all do it? I can't even get her to look at my profile.

On a related topic, when I was on SA last year tons of women looked at my profile, liked, and had conversations. I joined again last month and it is pulling teeth to get any attention.

I haven't really changed my profile. What gives?

There's some shady shit with SA. It's already known certain premium girls can read the messages we send to others. I find it weird when I'm actively favoriting and messaging girls I'll get several profiles messaging me out of the blue.

Other girls have sent me messages where they already seem to know what I'm looking for. I'm convinced there's a section on the site or list somewhere these girls are referencing that has details about us mongers... Could be beneficial to periodically refresh your persona if you're not getting hits for whatever reason.

[DrtyHarry]

And the thing is, I'm not some hot Chad. I'm a 5'4" Asian guy with a below-average penis but at the same time, I wonder if being that type of guy has forced me to have better conversation skills and more game because quite frankly, no woman dreams about being fucked by a short Asian guy. So while I don't know the OPs exact situation, I would say to play it cooler on the initial meet and just work on talking to her. I guarantee that 90% of the time, she'll fuck you after dinner simply because she had a good time.

Very sensible post. Most here treat women like shit or property. I am actually very athletic (no six pack abs, but lean and well manicured and well dressed) and above average in looks. At least that is what most women tell me. In spite of that I take your advice. I. E. Very respectful, polite (but not a chump either) and do not usually initiate a touch or grab until I get the green light. Most women will not initiate but they will give you ample signals that touching is welcome and I wait for at least the third or fourth signal after dinner a lot of wine and laughs to initiate anything. Being yourself, being genuine, polite, kind but also respecting your own boundaries (I. E. Not being an agreeable chump for every topic) is actually extremely attractive to women. Regardless of where / how you meet them.

[DelToro]

I also agree that you shouldn't touch her until she initiates or at least invites you to do so.

I have heard many times from girls that one of the reasons I ended up fucking them on the first date was in part because I was not all over them and give them space to make up their minds.