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[Asianguy]

She contacted me after I looked at her profile. She was ready to meet, offered the same 500 per hour or 250 half hour. Sent me an address a block of Hosmer in Tacoma. Blocked.

500 hour near Hosmer? GTFO 😂.

[Bronco62]

She has contacted me twice over a couple of weeks.

I could have sworn I seen a add on one of the escort sites for her I just can't find it. She seemed to be pushing a meet up really hard. I would think you could get that rate down lower.

She contacted me after I looked at her profile. She was ready to meet, offered the same 500 per hour or 250 half hour. Sent me an address a block of Hosmer in Tacoma. Blocked.

[MilfHunter66]

Hot pics (heavy filter?) and wants to see you NOW. I can't, so go for it. $500 bb.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...0-bc3c735b41cb

She has contacted me twice over a couple of weeks.

I could have sworn I seen a add on one of the escort sites for her I just can't find it. She seemed to be pushing a meet up really hard. I would think you could get that rate down lower.

[Irwin18]

Hot pics (heavy filter?) and wants to see you NOW. I can't, so go for it. $500 bb.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...0-bc3c735b41cb

[Irwin18]

Hourly rates are just inappropriate for a sugar dating situation.

Hourly rates would imply (1) that if she wasn't available when I wanted to spend some time, she would arrange and be okay with an appropriate substitute; and (2) that she would be available on short notice, e. G. I could call at 5 pm and she would be at my door at 6:30.

None of those would ever be the case in sugar dating.

Not being available when I want to see her, but available if I want to see her? I'm sorry but I'm confused.

[Irwin18]

Not yet. I'm not yet convinced she intends to move forward after a paid meet and greet.

Yeah, when she said paid mtg, she got substantially less hot. 😂.

[KnoxNenters]

Hourly rates are just inappropriate for a sugar dating situation.

Hourly rates would imply (1) that if she wasn't available when I wanted to spend some time, she would arrange and be okay with an appropriate substitute; and (2) that she would be available on short notice, e. G. I could call at 5 pm and she would be at my door at 6:30.

None of those would ever be the case in sugar dating.

If there's any SB's here, what do you think? You shouldn't be afraid to share your opinion, but more importantly, do you feel this particular SB's approach is either apporpiate or just "not the way of the system"?

[Marko Ramius]

Hourly rates are just inappropriate for a sugar dating situation.

Hourly rates would imply (1) that if she wasn't available when I wanted to spend some time, she would arrange and be okay with an appropriate substitute; and (2) that she would be available on short notice, e. G. I could call at 5 pm and she would be at my door at 6:30.

None of those would ever be the case in sugar dating.

[BoBroBgobs]

Can't find the OP. Thought someone was going to see her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...d-6f9d5217a712

Not yet. I'm not yet convinced she intends to move forward after a paid meet and greet.

[Irwin18]

Can't find the OP. Thought someone was going to see her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...d-6f9d5217a712

[PoonHound1969]

Also saw her for $500. MSOG and bare. She was honestly one of the best in bed I have ever been with. Very enthusiastic, passionate, and talented. No joke, my pelvis was bruised / tender the next day.

Did you see a lot of surgical scares?

[Irwin18]

Hot pics, but after declining buying photos, I guess the date is off. 😂.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...0-3dcc626045af

[Maui Glory]

Let's hear from both sides.

Especially because she wanted a structure where I compensate her for her time at an hourly rate...

Other cost factors: She lives in a city 60 miles from Seattle, so she shouldn't be pricing herself at Seattle rates, IMO. I would additionally cover the gas, $200 hotel room and incidentals. So all-in, possibly $900 for an encounter. That's a lot, in general. Definitely above my preference...

If you were filthy rich you wouldn't be trolling a shitty forum like this to talk about the used goods out there...If she were to read your comments about this, what would you want her to know, in terms of her rates and angle?

I troll this shitty forum because I'm not filthy rich. But I am kinda rich, meaning I can comfortably support a SB on the side. That said I do have limits because I have lots of other things I like to do, like travel and go to concerts and collect vintage sports cars. Also, I got to where I'm at in life by being disciplined and making smart & rational decisions and choices. My experience tells me (and it seems you are thinking among this line) that you want reliability in knowing what to expect with your time & money.

So that's why you go for SB, to get straight to the point, for the reliable intimacy with someone you have chemistry with, or is pleasant to be with, with clear expectations on cost & time. The lack of reliable intimacy, or unpredictability on the time together all up, is called "dating" as in the old way of meeting someone, getting to know them, and wondering if some day either one of you is interested enough in the other to get busy, or make the relationship more permanent. The pay per hour is called prostitution, and falls deeper into this category to the degree that chemistry is lacking or getting to know the person is lacking.

A SB is a long term arrangement where time spent for the allowance is based on spending time for extended periods at a fixed price. In other words we're talking about volume pricing for the SD and reliable income for SB. The advantage for the SD is cost and intimacy with someone pleasant is predictable and reliable. The advantage for the SB is reliable and predictable income from someone who is not a stranger and she gets to know and may have chemistry with.

Your SB is very confused and is mixed up in the concepts. She wants to be paid to date someone without owing reliability of intimacy and no volume pricing. This is why my personal pov is M&G is not a a deal I'm willing to pay for, though I would pay for a drink or meal for such to give a prospective SB, and me, a chance to assess whether she or I want to go for it. Nor will I ever get into a per hour deal. It has to be volume pricing for an extended sessions though it can be per half day or full day or week or month basis.

And yes if she says she says her costs are a factor in the deal, as in she has to pay for gas, then you get to say that your costs get factored in too. Remember you are driving there too. If she says her gas cost is a full tank then yours can be too. And you're paying for a hotel and that should be factored in. Her $20 or $40 in RT gas, or even $80 for a full tank, is nothing compared to $200 - $400 a night for a decent to nice hotel. And meals and drinks too - these are not cheap. So if she wants to bring cost into the negotiation then YES absolutely welcome that because she will lose big time on that point. This is a perfect example of "fuck around and find out"

SB is not a metered billing situation. I can just go pay for a VM on AWS if I ever want to get fucked that way.

[Flyer99]

I think neither of you know what you really want out of a sugar baby / sugar daddy relationship. You're expecting glorified provider / client and she wants a rich best friend who has a crush on her.

Best of luck to you both.

Let's hear from both sides.

TL; DR: Girl wants sliding scale for hourly time. $200/ hr for platonic, unknown for intimate. She's really nice, not a pro, can't host, lives far away. She spent a lot of time with me on a meet and greet, coming in from her city to meet me, doing special things, sending texts. She seems like a great girl, but I think she has the wrong approach on how to do this. I told her I couldn't justify spending all that platonic time with her wondering if she'd ever decide she wanted intimacy, as a higher price as well. What would you advise her if she were to read your response in comments?

THE DETAILS:

I don't want to out this wonderful woman. She's a genuine sweeatheart, and we had a really wonderful meet & greet. She's gorgeous, a head-turner, smart and easy to fall in love with. Not a pro. We spent a solid 4+ hours together, walked a couple of miles, drinks and late lunch, time watching the sunset at the beach. Super compatible, a genuine connection. And that was just the m&g. So understand as I ask about this that I have respect for her, and we should always be kind, regardless of her age, profession, situation of need or approach to this whole endeavor. Having said that, here's details on her approach.

We booked a second get-together. She insisted we let her be ready for intimacy after she's comfortable with the relationship. So this 2nd 'date' was planned with no presumptions for intimacy. But it suddenly became time to get to the numbers. She admitted it was an awkward topic. Especially because she wanted a structure where I compensate her for her time at an hourly rate. She asked me what I thought would be an amount I would pay for an evening of fun, but no intimacy yet. I offered $300. She responded that she was thinking that amount PER HOUR. Platonic!

I gasped a bit. Would you?

I countered with $500 for the evening total. She wanted an hourly number. She texted me after the call asking for $200/ hr. I agreed to 3 hours at that rate, but as a flat rate, regardless of activity, going forward. IOW, whether platonic or intimate, it would be $200/ h now and later. My thinking was that as long as she's going to hem and haw about the duration and rate, I should get an agreement for all activity at one rate. I figured at 3 hours, an intimate encounter at $600 was kind of the going rate here for a 20-30 with a great body and attractive appearance / personality.

Other cost factors: She lives in a city 60 miles from Seattle, so she shouldn't be pricing herself at Seattle rates, IMO. I would additionally cover the gas, $200 hotel room and incidentals. So all-in, possibly $900 for an encounter. That's a lot, in general. Definitely above my preference. I doubt many of you would either. If you were filthy rich you wouldn't be trolling a shitty forum like this to talk about the used goods out there.

If she were to read your comments about this, what would you want her to know, in terms of her rates and angle?

[KnoxNenters]

Let's hear from both sides.

TL; DR: Girl wants sliding scale for hourly time. $200/ hr for platonic, unknown for intimate. She's really nice, not a pro, can't host, lives far away. She spent a lot of time with me on a meet and greet, coming in from her city to meet me, doing special things, sending texts. She seems like a great girl, but I think she has the wrong approach on how to do this. I told her I couldn't justify spending all that platonic time with her wondering if she'd ever decide she wanted intimacy, as a higher price as well. What would you advise her if she were to read your response in comments?

THE DETAILS:

I don't want to out this wonderful woman. She's a genuine sweeatheart, and we had a really wonderful meet & greet. She's gorgeous, a head-turner, smart and easy to fall in love with. Not a pro. We spent a solid 4+ hours together, walked a couple of miles, drinks and late lunch, time watching the sunset at the beach. Super compatible, a genuine connection. And that was just the m&g. So understand as I ask about this that I have respect for her, and we should always be kind, regardless of her age, profession, situation of need or approach to this whole endeavor. Having said that, here's details on her approach.

We booked a second get-together. She insisted we let her be ready for intimacy after she's comfortable with the relationship. So this 2nd 'date' was planned with no presumptions for intimacy. But it suddenly became time to get to the numbers. She admitted it was an awkward topic. Especially because she wanted a structure where I compensate her for her time at an hourly rate. She asked me what I thought would be an amount I would pay for an evening of fun, but no intimacy yet. I offered $300. She responded that she was thinking that amount PER HOUR. Platonic!

I gasped a bit. Would you?

I countered with $500 for the evening total. She wanted an hourly number. She texted me after the call asking for $200/ hr. I agreed to 3 hours at that rate, but as a flat rate, regardless of activity, going forward. IOW, whether platonic or intimate, it would be $200/ h now and later. My thinking was that as long as she's going to hem and haw about the duration and rate, I should get an agreement for all activity at one rate. I figured at 3 hours, an intimate encounter at $600 was kind of the going rate here for a 20-30 with a great body and attractive appearance / personality.

Other cost factors: She lives in a city 60 miles from Seattle, so she shouldn't be pricing herself at Seattle rates, IMO. I would additionally cover the gas, $200 hotel room and incidentals. So all-in, possibly $900 for an encounter. That's a lot, in general. Definitely above my preference. I doubt many of you would either. If you were filthy rich you wouldn't be trolling a shitty forum like this to talk about the used goods out there.

If she were to read your comments about this, what would you want her to know, in terms of her rates and angle?