Non Pro's

[Money420]

Three things that completely changed my success on seeking:

1. I changed my settings so I was discoverable in search and home.

2. I toned down the chattiness on my profile. They're not there to read about my feelings.

3. I added Portland as a second city because I go there often to see family.

Results: BOOM! 20-30 messages a day, non-stop interest / favoritings. It was a circus. I'm sure #1 was the main reason. But the number of women in Portland that are both attractive, interesting and enthusiastic kind of caught me off guard. For a few weeks, I laughed at how ridiculously easy it was. Fish jumping into the boat. I had to make decisions and whittle it down. My mistake was that I lit too many little fires and didn't stoke them properly, and lost some great catches. That was more a result of having 20 new ones a day to tend to. I got a feel for what it must be like for some of the popular women, I'm guessing.

Now? A few weeks have passed. I turned the discoverability setting off. I changed my profile to be private / invisible, so the only messages I'm getting now are already ones I've reached out to. Makes things a lot easier and cuts down on the dopamine yearn. I'm nurturing the good ones I found, and dutifully visit ol' Mom in Portland monthly, staying at a hotel, courting the favorites. That's been great, but Seattle is definitely drained. Every few days, I catch a new one and toy around with it, but inevitably toss it back in. I don't want these greedy local babies with very little sexual experience demanding $600+ wasting my time. Terrible sex, boring as fuck. The older ones (30's) are gold, IMO. And a little easier on the wallet.

I do that with cities I frequently visit. Seems way easier to find what I'm looking for in Tucson, Boise, Reno, and even Salt Lake City. Women don't waste time or beat around the Bush. I have two in SLC that have given numbers and PPM prices and said call when I get to town. Ironically, one is from Seattle. There are several in all the rest of the cities as well. When I tell them I am traveling to there city they are always open fora date. All very hot looking too. I don't know why Washington is so prudish. I guess growing up here, dating wasn't all whole lot different. It sucked here.

[KnoxNenters]

Anyone, the point isn't to brag. I just wanted to call out that pickings are generally slimmer in the Seattle area, even if some people are having success. And that if you were looking for some "hall pass" fun it might be worth a trip to another part of the country. You can feel things out by just pinging girls in a town you'd be up for traveling to.

Three things that completely changed my success on seeking:

1. I changed my settings so I was discoverable in search and home.

2. I toned down the chattiness on my profile. They're not there to read about my feelings.

3. I added Portland as a second city because I go there often to see family.

Results: BOOM! 20-30 messages a day, non-stop interest / favoritings. It was a circus. I'm sure #1 was the main reason. But the number of women in Portland that are both attractive, interesting and enthusiastic kind of caught me off guard. For a few weeks, I laughed at how ridiculously easy it was. Fish jumping into the boat. I had to make decisions and whittle it down. My mistake was that I lit too many little fires and didn't stoke them properly, and lost some great catches. That was more a result of having 20 new ones a day to tend to. I got a feel for what it must be like for some of the popular women, I'm guessing.

Now? A few weeks have passed. I turned the discoverability setting off. I changed my profile to be private / invisible, so the only messages I'm getting now are already ones I've reached out to. Makes things a lot easier and cuts down on the dopamine yearn. I'm nurturing the good ones I found, and dutifully visit ol' Mom in Portland monthly, staying at a hotel, courting the favorites. That's been great, but Seattle is definitely drained. Every few days, I catch a new one and toy around with it, but inevitably toss it back in. I don't want these greedy local babies with very little sexual experience demanding $600+ wasting my time. Terrible sex, boring as fuck. The older ones (30's) are gold, IMO. And a little easier on the wallet.

[MartyByrde]

What I find humorous is that as soon as I let them know I'm not sending them money without meeting them face to face ninety percent of them just scram. And good riddance. In some cases I even offered to move my schedule around and meet them that day and give them money for it they refused and wanted me to send them money to "show that I was serious".

It's more like 95% with me, that they scram. I typically am ready to schedule something within a few hours, but still no go. What I've also encountered is I am conversing back and forth with the woman, and everything seems to be good. But then the gal says that a deposit is needed. I tell them "No way", and that ends the discussion.

Definitely a rip off.

[Marko Ramius]

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I don't know what game they're playing but it seems like all these GPS model girls are actually fake. Because they don't want to meet even when you agree to their insane demands.

Even when I've tried to work something out with them, I've never had good results with the girls who "know their worth" and put a noncompetitive price on their ass.

What I find humorous is that as soon as I let them know I'm not sending them money without meeting them face to face ninety percent of them just scram. And good riddance. In some cases I even offered to move my schedule around and meet them that day and give them money for it they refused and wanted me to send them money to "show that I was serious".

In very rare situations where a girl is asking for a lot of money, I'll encourage them to explain what exactly is going on and tell them that if they work with me we can work something out. Sometimes that has been very productive for both of us. One girl was going to meet me for dinner and started texted me about two hours before our meetup talking about how she had a serious financial problem (her tuition was due the next week) and how she needed about 1500. Her story checked out so I told her to just meet me for dinner and we could talk about how to work something out. We did work something out: she cut classes on Friday and spent a three-day weekend servicing me in the very best possible way. I got my money's worth and she got her tuition paid.

[Anonymous420]

So I took a suggestion from Michael and thought I'd share the results. I was in town with a license to play for a bit and just wanted to find someone to have fun with and didn't care about cost (willing to pay 1-2 k if it got me everything I wanted).

I contacted about 50 woman, I focused on the ones that often get posted here that are super hot but demand like 1 k.

None of them wanted to meet. If I agreed to 1 k many would ask for more, ghost me, or block me.

The only one I met was the one posted before "exotic red head". She's real. She's actually way better than her pics. But she agrees to everything in text and then in person once she gets some money (not even all of it! It's all "I don't kiss" "everything is protected" "you can't eat me" some of the worst sex of my life.

I don't know what game they're playing but it seems like all these GPS model girls are actually fake. Because they don't want to meet even when you agree to their insane demands.

I'm just guessing based on what you write and the numbers you throw around, and my guess is that something that you say or write get's you flagged as a sucker right away. I don't pay anywhere near those rates, I am old, fat, and asian.

Here's a tip: If the woman looks like an instagram thot or could be in a music video, she's going to rip you off.

[DrapePeter]

https://members.seeking.com/messages...f-64bef7c5d652

After initial meet and greet for which the damage was 200, she is asking me to buy her 1100 $ shoes so that she knows I am serious. This is a prerequisite for her to spend private time. She wants me to buy the shoes in person in the morning so that she will meet me in the evening. I wished her good luck.

[VanDawg]

I had a 21-year-old sugar baby who was going to UW in the spring of last year. The thing that makes it hard for a this arrangement to work out is finding somebody that can hold a conversation and somebody you want to spend time with. The sex is going to make up a very small time of your interaction. Sugar dating imo isn't about sex. It's about finding companionship. Sex is a part of that and their good looks. But you have to want to see them outside of the bedroom. Most of these girls don't meet that criteria. Most of them are ghetto trash. Finding a good girl in society who isn't entitled these days is a challenge even if you aren't sugar dating.

I think you have to go a bit older to have somebody interesting to talk to. Two examples for me are women in their early 30's (I'm mid 40's). One lawyer, one real estate agent. Both worked hard at their career, I don't think the RE agent was that successful. The lawyer was and I don't think she needed the money.

Good to chat with, hang out, but had busy lives. Both gym rats with amazing bodies. The lawyer especially, never really showed it, one blurry bikini pic on her profile, but when I got her naked the first time I was shocked. Legit IG model level body, loved to fuck. You never know until you try, I think the 30+ women get significantly less traffic on SA.

[Tippover11]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...e-be0ad82e6286

Columbiana33. She is in Kennewick but I also live in Bellevue and she did say she would travel. I know there are some like me that work east and live west. Thought I would give the story on her in case someone here takes a chance on her.

I did see her for a few months. Weekly visits. She is expensive and absolutely wanted an allowance only. I did manage to get her to ppm to start. She agreed. 500 ppm. It's steep. I know. Pickings over the hill are slim.

The good:

She is smokin hot.

She loves to fuck.

Every thing open.

Great fake tits.

Great personality.

Very cool person to hang out with.

The bad:

She is a pathological liar.

She will tell, say, do anything to get you to give her money.

She has hidden from pics sever mommy tummy. I thought it was no big deal, but it was a turn off for sure. At least for me.

No head game, LOL. Like none.

We met a few times. Things seemed chill. I didn't have a lot of time to devote to it so she was cool with a visit per week. Saw her over a months time span. She travels for her work and she is taking some courses to further her career. I think. LOL. That's what she says she's doing. However after a month of seeing her it becomes clear that she's just going to ask and beg and make you feel like crap if you don't give her an allowance. We couldn't agree on that point so we parted ways. However she still sends messages along for an early Christmas present. She sent her credit card bills that totaled 18,000 and wanted help with them. No matter what I said or did, her listening skills were zero. LOL. She said that it could be a 3 month advance. LOL.

Not for me. Started out great but her true colors came out. Oh well.

[DrtyHarry]

So I took a suggestion from Michael and thought I'd share the results. I was in town with a license to play for a bit and just wanted to find someone to have fun with and didn't care about cost (willing to pay 1-2 k if it got me everything I wanted).

I contacted about 50 woman, I focused on the ones that often get posted here that are super hot but demand like 1 k.

None of them wanted to meet. If I agreed to 1 k many would ask for more, ghost me, or block me.

The only one I met was the one posted before "exotic red head". She's real. She's actually way better than her pics. But she agrees to everything in text and then in person once she gets some money (not even all of it! It's all "I don't kiss" "everything is protected" "you can't eat me" some of the worst sex of my life.

I don't know what game they're playing but it seems like all these GPS model girls are actually fake. Because they don't want to meet even when you agree to their insane demands.

That is sad, not becuase you had a bad appointment. That happens here in SEA. You have always shared good reliable intel on this board. Sorry you wasted some of your limited play time, that is irritating. Hopefully the next one will be better.

[Blake37]

So I took a suggestion from Michael and thought I'd share the results. I was in town with a license to play for a bit and just wanted to find someone to have fun with and didn't care about cost (willing to pay 1-2 k if it got me everything I wanted).

I contacted about 50 woman, I focused on the ones that often get posted here that are super hot but demand like 1 k.

None of them wanted to meet. If I agreed to 1 k many would ask for more, ghost me, or block me.

The only one I met was the one posted before "exotic red head". She's real. She's actually way better than her pics. But she agrees to everything in text and then in person once she gets some money (not even all of it! It's all "I don't kiss" "everything is protected" "you can't eat me" some of the worst sex of my life.

I don't know what game they're playing but it seems like all these GPS model girls are actually fake. Because they don't want to meet even when you agree to their insane demands.

Before the pandemic I was already 80% switched to Seeking girls over traditional hobby girls, basically just keeping up with old favorites who mostly dropped out over time. When I got into Seeking for the first time it was late 2017. And those first two years were amazing. I'm an overweight, but relatively normal looking dude, and found a good mix of girls who wanted to hang out for free and other girls that varied between the 200-500 range for a really unrushed evening or overnight.

The pandemic really changed everything, especially in Seattle.

Since last summer when I started seeing girls again it's been really hard to connect in Seattle. A lot of girls have switched to OF or other premium online things which, when combined with scams, makes it hard to connect. Plus I've gotten to a point in my life where I'm just pickier, especially since just a few years ago I had great experiences.

So since last summer I've pulled the trigger three times from Seeking in Seattle. The first time was for a duo of two smoking hot 19 year olds, which despite how hot the girls were was a meh experience because it was clear they had a traditional provider mindset. Also the typical thing where one girl was more into things than the other. The second time was a girl who people have mentioned before on the board (I forget her handle). Nice girl, but a bit off and weird. Not as good looking as the pics. That was last Thanksgiving. And then just last month I saw a cute 20-something cutie for some fun for a reasonable allowance. I've stayed in touch and might see her again.

I've chatted with tons more girls and there are a few that seem interested, but it's been pulling teeth to pull a trigger. They ask "when are we going to meet" and then ghost when it comes to specifics. The pool of girls in Seattle is a lot smaller. I sub to the site for a month and by the end of that month things are pretty tapped out with new girls to chat with.

I visit other parts of the country. I spend a few months a year in California and sometimes go to Vegas. It's still harder to meet girls down there than it was before the pandemic, but nowhere near as bad as Seattle is. I can still find pretty hot girls for between 300-500 down there. Vegas is pricier, but still fun. I saw a duo there including one girl that was a stoner IG model.

Anyone, the point isn't to brag. I just wanted to call out that pickings are generally slimmer in the Seattle area, even if some people are having success. And that if you were looking for some "hall pass" fun it might be worth a trip to another part of the country. You can feel things out by just pinging girls in a town you'd be up for traveling to.

[Michael1967]

So I took a suggestion from Michael and thought I'd share the results. I was in town with a license to play for a bit and just wanted to find someone to have fun with and didn't care about cost (willing to pay 1-2 k if it got me everything I wanted).

I contacted about 50 woman, I focused on the ones that often get posted here that are super hot but demand like 1 k.

None of them wanted to meet. If I agreed to 1 k many would ask for more, ghost me, or block me.

The only one I met was the one posted before "exotic red head". She's real. She's actually way better than her pics. But she agrees to everything in text and then in person once she gets some money (not even all of it! It's all "I don't kiss" "everything is protected" "you can't eat me" some of the worst sex of my life.

I don't know what game they're playing but it seems like all these GPS model girls are actually fake. Because they don't want to meet even when you agree to their insane demands.

I'm glad you gave it a try. I guess it's good to know that I'm paying low prices and actually having people show up. Never even considered $1000. Wow, that's amazing, you'd think they'd jump on that shit.

[AnimeWeedLord]

So I took a suggestion from Michael and thought I'd share the results. I was in town with a license to play for a bit and just wanted to find someone to have fun with and didn't care about cost (willing to pay 1-2 k if it got me everything I wanted).

I contacted about 50 woman, I focused on the ones that often get posted here that are super hot but demand like 1 k.

None of them wanted to meet. If I agreed to 1 k many would ask for more, ghost me, or block me.

The only one I met was the one posted before "exotic red head". She's real. She's actually way better than her pics. But she agrees to everything in text and then in person once she gets some money (not even all of it! It's all "I don't kiss" "everything is protected" "you can't eat me" some of the worst sex of my life.

I don't know what game they're playing but it seems like all these GPS model girls are actually fake. Because they don't want to meet even when you agree to their insane demands.

[PoonHound1969]

And has a three girl stable.

Looks like Cat who has been mentioned before is part of the stable, along with two others.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...7-5db45c7c9fc9

[PoonHound1969]

Because you sir are my hero, getting free pussy and having other dudes pay for the and your date.

Well done sir, well done!

And has a three girl stable.

[Mamouna]

I've had some great relationships on SA. I've had several that were like girlfriends or (a good) wife. I involved them in my life and they took very good care of me. They made sure I had food, made sure I didn't spend too much time working and made sure that I took care of myself. I am still friends with most of them and we talk regularly, but this site isn't about that. You probably want to know more about getting laid.

So, right now I'm seeing someone that is 20 YO, I initially did not have any interest in her. I would say looks are about 5-6/10. She wanted to do a PPM and I was horny so I figured I'd give the ugly chick a try. She is the sweetest kid in the world. Definitely not a great fuck, but then she told me I was the sixth person she's had sex with in her life and she has only been sexually active 18 months. So, she has a lot to learn. At any point, her personality moved her from a 5-6/10 to about an 8/10 for me. No she's not going to win a beauty pageant, but (I'm going to sound like a chick here) her personality more than makes up for her looks. She is the one that I'm basically seeing now. The weird part is that she has a good job, lives rent free in a house that her parents own and she doesn't need the money. At any rate, she comes by after work and we go out and do things, fuck, watch a movie or two, fuck and she spends the night. In the morning we fuck have breakfast, fuck again and she leaves. It costs me $400. I saw three people from the other board last week, I spent more than $1000.

I can go back to previous girls I've seen, but I've reported about them here already. I think the thing that makes it difficult for so many people here is that with SA, you really can't just message someone have them come out, fuck you and leave. Yes, there are numerous escorts on the site that will do that, but for the most part, you're looking at people that don't want to be called escorts. So, you need to actually have a conversation with them, care (or pretend to care) about their issues and problems, be kind and empathetic and make them feel good about their decision to fuck you for money. You can do this without being a cuck. A lot of guys just want to get straight to the sex, that isn't going to work there (unless you find one of the escorts, who will charge you more than they do on escort sites).

Actually, guys, I am 100% down with the extra stuff. These are all encouraging to read, thanks!