Non Pro's

[AnimeWeedLord]

So I took a suggestion from Michael and thought I'd share the results. I was in town with a license to play for a bit and just wanted to find someone to have fun with and didn't care about cost (willing to pay 1-2 k if it got me everything I wanted).

I contacted about 50 woman, I focused on the ones that often get posted here that are super hot but demand like 1 k.

None of them wanted to meet. If I agreed to 1 k many would ask for more, ghost me, or block me.

The only one I met was the one posted before "exotic red head". She's real. She's actually way better than her pics. But she agrees to everything in text and then in person once she gets some money (not even all of it! It's all "I don't kiss" "everything is protected" "you can't eat me" some of the worst sex of my life.

I don't know what game they're playing but it seems like all these GPS model girls are actually fake. Because they don't want to meet even when you agree to their insane demands.

[PoonHound1969]

And has a three girl stable.

Looks like Cat who has been mentioned before is part of the stable, along with two others.

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...7-5db45c7c9fc9

[PoonHound1969]

Because you sir are my hero, getting free pussy and having other dudes pay for the and your date.

Well done sir, well done!

And has a three girl stable.

[Mamouna]

I've had some great relationships on SA. I've had several that were like girlfriends or (a good) wife. I involved them in my life and they took very good care of me. They made sure I had food, made sure I didn't spend too much time working and made sure that I took care of myself. I am still friends with most of them and we talk regularly, but this site isn't about that. You probably want to know more about getting laid.

So, right now I'm seeing someone that is 20 YO, I initially did not have any interest in her. I would say looks are about 5-6/10. She wanted to do a PPM and I was horny so I figured I'd give the ugly chick a try. She is the sweetest kid in the world. Definitely not a great fuck, but then she told me I was the sixth person she's had sex with in her life and she has only been sexually active 18 months. So, she has a lot to learn. At any point, her personality moved her from a 5-6/10 to about an 8/10 for me. No she's not going to win a beauty pageant, but (I'm going to sound like a chick here) her personality more than makes up for her looks. She is the one that I'm basically seeing now. The weird part is that she has a good job, lives rent free in a house that her parents own and she doesn't need the money. At any rate, she comes by after work and we go out and do things, fuck, watch a movie or two, fuck and she spends the night. In the morning we fuck have breakfast, fuck again and she leaves. It costs me $400. I saw three people from the other board last week, I spent more than $1000.

I can go back to previous girls I've seen, but I've reported about them here already. I think the thing that makes it difficult for so many people here is that with SA, you really can't just message someone have them come out, fuck you and leave. Yes, there are numerous escorts on the site that will do that, but for the most part, you're looking at people that don't want to be called escorts. So, you need to actually have a conversation with them, care (or pretend to care) about their issues and problems, be kind and empathetic and make them feel good about their decision to fuck you for money. You can do this without being a cuck. A lot of guys just want to get straight to the sex, that isn't going to work there (unless you find one of the escorts, who will charge you more than they do on escort sites).

Actually, guys, I am 100% down with the extra stuff. These are all encouraging to read, thanks!

[PoonHound1969]

Because you sir are my hero, getting free pussy and having other dudes pay for the and your date.

Well done sir, well done!

[PoonHound1969]

https://members.seeking.com/member/7...1-ae3dfb571e25

[Mamouna]

I mean, yeah you're right. There are a lot of fakes on SA and there are a lot of girls who have crazy ideas. I mean, I talked to one girl whose only contribution to the arrangement would be that she would set her relationship status to make us "Facebook official". She was dead serious. But there are also a lot of real girls on there who make for the most perfect dating experiences ever. And there is such a variety! But it takes work. You have to talk to a lot of girls, you have to show a good amount of game and what not, but in my opinion, it's worth it. However, I see what guys talk about here so I totally understand that it's not for everyone. I think about the girls I meet on SA and it makes me cringe when I think about the situations I tolerated off of other sites. While those interactions were admittedly far more straightforward than SA, the quality of the interaction is just so much lower.

And I think about the flip side too. A few weeks ago, I went out on a date (like a real date) with this girl Alina. We went to a casual gastropub and had dinner for about $120. I take her home and get the "I can't wait to see you again!" texts, but no I didn't fuck her. I have to text her all week throughout the days and I take her out the following week for another $300 ish entertainment night. And yeah, I did fuck her then but it's a totally different experience that feels almost not-worth-it to me considering I have no intentions of seeing her more than a couple times.

We all want different things and what you say about SA is absolutely true so rather than reading about positive interactions, I think you should think about what type of interactions you really want as it's totally possible that what's required of the SA life just isn't your thing.

What you did with Alina, is basically what I'm down for. I'll PM you for some details on that. It does get exhausting, sorting thru all the fakes and personalities. Thanks for that story.

[Michael1967]

Yeah, recently I had a conversation with a SB who was a solid 4/10 on top of bad pics and zero effort. She hadn't had made a real arrangement in the 6 mos on SA. Her no budge rate was $500.

Would anyone be willing to share some positive interactions? Between the scams, the amateurs who bail, and the army of Venezuelan women I'm definitely not renewing my membership.

I've had some great relationships on SA. I've had several that were like girlfriends or (a good) wife. I involved them in my life and they took very good care of me. They made sure I had food, made sure I didn't spend too much time working and made sure that I took care of myself. I am still friends with most of them and we talk regularly, but this site isn't about that. You probably want to know more about getting laid.

So, right now I'm seeing someone that is 20 YO, I initially did not have any interest in her. I would say looks are about 5-6/10. She wanted to do a PPM and I was horny so I figured I'd give the ugly chick a try. She is the sweetest kid in the world. Definitely not a great fuck, but then she told me I was the sixth person she's had sex with in her life and she has only been sexually active 18 months. So, she has a lot to learn. At any point, her personality moved her from a 5-6/10 to about an 8/10 for me. No she's not going to win a beauty pageant, but (I'm going to sound like a chick here) her personality more than makes up for her looks. She is the one that I'm basically seeing now. The weird part is that she has a good job, lives rent free in a house that her parents own and she doesn't need the money. At any rate, she comes by after work and we go out and do things, fuck, watch a movie or two, fuck and she spends the night. In the morning we fuck have breakfast, fuck again and she leaves. It costs me $400. I saw three people from the other board last week, I spent more than $1000.

I can go back to previous girls I've seen, but I've reported about them here already. I think the thing that makes it difficult for so many people here is that with SA, you really can't just message someone have them come out, fuck you and leave. Yes, there are numerous escorts on the site that will do that, but for the most part, you're looking at people that don't want to be called escorts. So, you need to actually have a conversation with them, care (or pretend to care) about their issues and problems, be kind and empathetic and make them feel good about their decision to fuck you for money. You can do this without being a cuck. A lot of guys just want to get straight to the sex, that isn't going to work there (unless you find one of the escorts, who will charge you more than they do on escort sites).

[ProJohn1]

I mean, yeah you're right. There are a lot of fakes on SA and there are a lot of girls who have crazy ideas. I mean, I talked to one girl whose only contribution to the arrangement would be that she would set her relationship status to make us "Facebook official". She was dead serious. But there are also a lot of real girls on there who make for the most perfect dating experiences ever. And there is such a variety! But it takes work. You have to talk to a lot of girls, you have to show a good amount of game and what not, but in my opinion, it's worth it. However, I see what guys talk about here so I totally understand that it's not for everyone. I think about the girls I meet on SA and it makes me cringe when I think about the situations I tolerated off of other sites. While those interactions were admittedly far more straightforward than SA, the quality of the interaction is just so much lower.

And I think about the flip side too. A few weeks ago, I went out on a date (like a real date) with this girl Alina. We went to a casual gastropub and had dinner for about $120. I take her home and get the "I can't wait to see you again!" texts, but no I didn't fuck her. I have to text her all week throughout the days and I take her out the following week for another $300 ish entertainment night. And yeah, I did fuck her then but it's a totally different experience that feels almost not-worth-it to me considering I have no intentions of seeing her more than a couple times.

We all want different things and what you say about SA is absolutely true so rather than reading about positive interactions, I think you should think about what type of interactions you really want as it's totally possible that what's required of the SA life just isn't your thing.

I had a 21-year-old sugar baby who was going to UW in the spring of last year. The thing that makes it hard for a this arrangement to work out is finding somebody that can hold a conversation and somebody you want to spend time with. The sex is going to make up a very small time of your interaction. Sugar dating imo isn't about sex. It's about finding companionship. Sex is a part of that and their good looks. But you have to want to see them outside of the bedroom. Most of these girls don't meet that criteria. Most of them are ghetto trash. Finding a good girl in society who isn't entitled these days is a challenge even if you aren't sugar dating.

[TnaPorter]

Yeah, recently I had a conversation with a SB who was a solid 4/10 on top of bad pics and zero effort. She hadn't had made a real arrangement in the 6 mos on SA. Her no budge rate was $500.

Would anyone be willing to share some positive interactions? Between the scams, the amateurs who bail, and the army of Venezuelan women I'm definitely not renewing my membership.

I mean, yeah you're right. There are a lot of fakes on SA and there are a lot of girls who have crazy ideas. I mean, I talked to one girl whose only contribution to the arrangement would be that she would set her relationship status to make us "Facebook official". She was dead serious. But there are also a lot of real girls on there who make for the most perfect dating experiences ever. And there is such a variety! But it takes work. You have to talk to a lot of girls, you have to show a good amount of game and what not, but in my opinion, it's worth it. However, I see what guys talk about here so I totally understand that it's not for everyone. I think about the girls I meet on SA and it makes me cringe when I think about the situations I tolerated off of other sites. While those interactions were admittedly far more straightforward than SA, the quality of the interaction is just so much lower.

And I think about the flip side too. A few weeks ago, I went out on a date (like a real date) with this girl Alina. We went to a casual gastropub and had dinner for about $120. I take her home and get the "I can't wait to see you again!" texts, but no I didn't fuck her. I have to text her all week throughout the days and I take her out the following week for another $300 ish entertainment night. And yeah, I did fuck her then but it's a totally different experience that feels almost not-worth-it to me considering I have no intentions of seeing her more than a couple times.

We all want different things and what you say about SA is absolutely true so rather than reading about positive interactions, I think you should think about what type of interactions you really want as it's totally possible that what's required of the SA life just isn't your thing.

[Mamouna]

I just got this from https://members.seeking.com/member/e...5-cf30b3a0ab99.

Like what the absolute fck.

Yeah, recently I had a conversation with a SB who was a solid 4/10 on top of bad pics and zero effort. She hadn't had made a real arrangement in the 6 mos on SA. Her no budge rate was $500.

Would anyone be willing to share some positive interactions? Between the scams, the amateurs who bail, and the army of Venezuelan women I'm definitely not renewing my membership.

[Michael1967]

I just got this from https://members.seeking.com/member/e...5-cf30b3a0ab99.

Like what the absolute fck.

I'm sure she raking them in with that.

[BoBroBgobs]

I just got this from https://members.seeking.com/member/e...5-cf30b3a0ab99.

Like what the absolute fck.

[KnoxNenters]

If it were legalized and regulated. Girls could operate in safer environments, more guys would stop being stupid pervs because they would have regular access to sex, it would separate legit providers from the crazy scammers. Prices would go down to sane levels. Just look at the marijuana market as an example. Still premium product available for people with excess cash, but you can walk out of any shop with quality weed for a fun night under $20.

I'm relatively new to the hobby, and my first experience was in Europe. So I am still shocked how an hour of sex (it's not even an hour, just one shot) with borderline to somewhat attractive women is $300+. I'll leave the pros out of this. Sure that's understandable if you're hideously deformed and rich, but most guys are regular joes who are just looking to maintain their sexual wellbeing. It's why there are so many scams on both sides because everyone knows it's a ripoff and we end up with these silly game between horny men and naive women. End rant.

Well put. Who else but us would be most motivated to see laws change? If stoners worked as hard as they did to drive legalization of marijuana, who do you think will drive legalism of sex work? Or at least decriminalization for the women? TBH, that's the realistic and logical card to back. One of us who doesn't have an account, a lurker, is probably the one, so they can emerge untarnished, so to speak, and put the right players in place to see this through to law: Decriminalize Sex Workers from felony or even misdemeanor charges, so women of high libido who know they can make extra money providing valuable sexual release and relief don't have to worry about the stigmatization of prostitution, as there would be no stigma any longer. They're all just working different angles. Side hustles. If they're on the street, they're probably just realizing their value, and learning the ropes, but perhaps through the wrong channels; If they're in a massage parlor, they are looking for extra cash to send home, and extra money to start they own business. If they're private residents who have frequent visitors all through the day to host them for sexual pleasure, let them enjoy the joys of private erotic play as two consenting adults to, yes, financial terms. And so on. Including our lovely sugar babies, the pretty girls who can't afford college or their bills, as hard as they worked, because of our fucked up economy, our obscene fuel prices.

We'll deal with the mongers later. If you're that guy or girl, we'd appreciate it if you act on this now. <start /.

[Mamouna]

If it were legalized and regulated. Girls could operate in safer environments, more guys would stop being stupid pervs because they would have regular access to sex, it would separate legit providers from the crazy scammers. Prices would go down to sane levels. Just look at the marijuana market as an example. Still premium product available for people with excess cash, but you can walk out of any shop with quality weed for a fun night under $20.

I'm relatively new to the hobby, and my first experience was in Europe. So I am still shocked how an hour of sex (it's not even an hour, just one shot) with borderline to somewhat attractive women is $300+. I'll leave the pros out of this. Sure that's understandable if you're hideously deformed and rich, but most guys are regular joes who are just looking to maintain their sexual wellbeing. It's why there are so many scams on both sides because everyone knows it's a ripoff and we end up with these silly game between horny men and naive women. End rant.