Legal Discussions / Raids / Busts

**Cloud Strife** · 01-02-12 02:16

Never mind that second part of my last post. 2 posts below says she worked at the Stadium. So there should be Troy.

**Cloud Strife** · 01-02-12 02:14

Originally Posted by Abe Girl Vicky [View Original Post]

Chelsey is still working, Legal Eagle. She went to work with Troy after leaving my place, but I don't know what happened with her after that. She may be on her own now. Anyway, here is her ad:

Chelsey

So, did Troy own Soothing as well then. Since I only know of her working there and on her own. Never at the Stadium or 1501, which Troy apparently deals with both.

**Abe Girl Vicky** · 01-01-12 19:23

Chelsey is still working, Legal Eagle. She went to work with Troy after leaving my place, but I don't know what happened with her after that. She may be on her own now. Anyway, here is her ad:

Chelsey

**Crashdog** · 01-01-12 13:20

We now learn that you actively recruited for My1501, and did so for certain with one of the escorts working for the ABE Company (named Lauren) shortly before the raid on My1501. You did not deny this when Vicky called you on it in her post in the MASSAGE thread, and were certainly aware that you had recruited for Deleon despite steadfastly denying a business relationship between the two of you. If you were not working together, why would you recruit providers for HIS location (rather than your own?) I wonder if any of Vicky's former girls worked for any of Deleon's locations after being peeled away by one of your plants, Troy? In her MASSAGE thread post, Vicky mentioned a "Talas, Chelsea and Lexi." I do not know these providers, but a few of the seniors will know whether these girls ever worked with one of Deleon's locations after you peeled them away from the ABE Company.

Who says soap operas are dead?

I know that Talas worked in a dump on Fern Valley that should be condemned. She switched her name to Chrissy when she worked at the stadium. If the Chelsea you are talking about is the little hottie with the baby daddy issues she worked at the stadium and at SS.

**ThePinkDaisy** · 12-30-11 18:18

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**Legal Eagle** · 12-25-11 19:11

Originally Posted by TheRealTroy [View Original Post]

Still waiting for proof of this false accusation!

For months you have been denying what many seniors on this board know to be true about your relationship with Deleon, Troy. We've discussed your surreptitious promotion of both of your businesses through alias board handles, similarity in pricing and organization, shift of providers from one location to another and the extent of your personal relationship. You denied any association (friendship or otherwise) via your "Johnballgame" handle, was called out on your denied personal association by both Jimtrueblue and StoptheBS and now, amazingly enough, continue to argue that all of this proves nothing.

We now learn that you actively recruited for My1501, and did so for certain with one of the escorts working for the ABE Company (named Lauren) shortly before the raid on My1501. You did not deny this when Vicky called you on it in her post in the MASSAGE thread, and were certainly aware that you had recruited for Deleon despite steadfastly denying a business relationship between the two of you. If you were not working together, why would you recruit providers for HIS location (rather than your own?) I wonder if any of Vicky's former girls worked for any of Deleon's locations after being peeled away by one of your plants, Troy? In her MASSAGE thread post, Vicky mentioned a "Talas, Chelsea and Lexi." I do not know these providers, but a few of the seniors will know whether these girls ever worked with one of Deleon's locations after you peeled them away from the ABE Company.

This also confirms the reason that information about the stadium operation was pursued by law enforcement during the investigation and raid into My1501. You were recruiting providers for Deleon during the period of the investigation and raid. If any of the seniors can confirm that Lauren's (the blonde working for the ABE Company) photos appeared on the My1501 website, it will absolutely confirm your business association with My1501. Not that this step is necessary, of course; I believe Vicky is telling the truth about this. It fits perfectly with your practice on this board of attacking other owners and their providers under your "JBG" handle while promoting both your and Deleon's providers and business interests via various board aliases. It also explains why you are so desperate to stifle the flow of information; so desperate in fact that you threatened to out Jimtrueblue (who was a loyal client of your girls) and placed a bounty on personal information about me. Or, as it turns out, who you erroneously believed me to be.

You are a proven liar, manipulator and bully who attempts to threaten men and, no doubt, the girls who don't work for you (much as you have apparently harassed Vicky's escort Lauren.)

Still care to deny the obvious, Troy?

**TheRealTroy** · 12-24-11 21:15

Originally Posted by Legal Eagle [View Original Post]

That would be law enforcement, Troy. Refer back to the "reading is fundamental" discussion.

I didn't say you owned My1501; I said that you and Ivan had an historic personal and business relationship. You admitted the former and cannot deny the latter. Where, precisely, do you believe this friendship originated?

Actually, you denied ownership of the stadium as Johnballgame...

Still waiting for proof of this false accusation!

**Legal Eagle** · 12-09-11 13:32

Originally Posted by Toytiger [View Original Post]

Word on the street is "The list" will NOT be introduced as evidence. Not totally out of the woods yet but this new development looks promising.

The list was of no moment for the prosecutions pending against the Forbidden Five in the absence of correlating that list with the service information kept by My1501's ownership. The list without the service records is like a map without a legend. If the prosecution cannot identity a particular provider to a particular service date and time and a particular customer, the list itself will be inadmissible hearsay. That is the likely reason it will not be introduced at any trial of the former My1501 providers.

That, however, is not the primary importance of the list.

The list will be crucial in any prosecution against the owners of My1501 (Deleon and Kaufmann) for any organized crime related indictment (e. G, human trafficking, etc,) and for any related tax evasion charges. Again, the list must be correlated with other information seized during the investigation to have evidentiary value.

**Toytiger** · 12-06-11 15:50

Word on the street is "The list" will NOT be introduced as evidence. Not totally out of the woods yet but this new development looks promising.

**Legal Eagle** · 11-18-11 03:01

Originally Posted by StopTheBS [View Original Post]

LE was at the stadium last week. No arrests or citations given. The girls there have been prepared well.

Where have we heard this before, I wonder? Incidentally, you just confirmed for law enforcement the fact that the providers have something to prepare against. Chum in the water, friend. I am quite certain your "owner friends" and their providers will heap praise on you for this, BS. I did notice the Freudian slip on "my" provider "Jaz." Nicely done sir. Before you say it, yes-I am aware that Jaz owns and operates her own studio. Now.

Anyone that still wants to accuse me of being the owner there is welcome to meet me. I like this sport and have inside info and when I'm wrong I admit it but on these statements and the one that the Troy not is in business with anyone else I am 100% certain of.

You can only be certain of what you are told, BS. Unless, of course, you are The Troy (which you most certainly are.)

I'm not arguing this any longer.

That makes four-COUNT THEM, FOUR-times you have stated this. Perhaps the fifth time is the charm.

*wait for it*

I can see you twitching at the keyboard on the other side of the screen, BS. Go forth and do good things.

Just know that Legal has an incentive to put certain places out of business as it directly affects his home life if they were to shutdown.

I do not and no it would not, BS. Thank you for thinking of me, though. I have not advocated putting any studio or solo artist out of business. What I have suggested, however, are safer methods to use in approaching these risky locations and that the smart person pays attention to the warning signs. The only reason this conversation has continued unabated is due to some on this board (I will not say who *cough* "The Troy" *cough* "BS" *) wanting to downplay or outright deny the risk associated with these locations. They do this while simultaneously attacking other providers. You have already admitted to this conduct on the part of The Troy yet you continue to minimize the risk by deflecting questions. Do you really not understand why some might question your role in this, BS?

My questions are rhetorical, of course, as Elvis has apparently finally left the building (and returned to the stadium to collect his "rent.") You can convince yourself of anything you like, BS, including who you mistakenly believe me to be. Fairy tales are always comforting to those craving fantasies.

**StopTheBS** · 11-17-11 16:08

Sam was arrested at the east end place owned my provider Jaz. However she was first cited at the stadium. This I know for a fact. The Troy was also cited at the same time. He did not own the office off Taylorsville. Jaz also used to work at the stadium and hired Sam after she was fired by Troy due to the citation she received. These statements I know for certain are a fact. This is the exact reason I'm on here because Legal is giving wrong information. I want to keep the record straight.

LE was at the stadium last week. No arrests or citations given. The girls there have been prepared well.

Anyone that still wants to accuse me of being the owner there is welcome to meet me. I like this sport and have inside info and when I'm wrong I admit it but on these statements and the one that the Troy not is in business with anyone else I am 100% certain of.

I'm not arguing this any longer. Just know that Legal has an incentive to put certain places out of business as it directly affects his home life if they were to shutdown.

Originally Posted by TheSportScout [View Original Post]

When I responded to uncle bs (Tim Wilson reference anyone?) , I stated "most" intel is right on point. As Legal pointed out, Sam's trouble was not at the stadium. But it doesn't take a 1st grader to connect the dots my friends.

Stay safe. Be smart.

SS

**TheSportScout** · 11-17-11 07:53

Originally Posted by Legal Eagle [View Original Post]

Except that "Sam" was not arrested or even cited at the "stadium," BS. She was part of the same group of providers, but was based out in the east end, as you know."The Troy" referred to this very fact in an earlier post on this board. I would provide the link to the news account of this incident but it reveals her real name in the report of the incident. Most of the mongers know already know who "Sam" was and what occurred and, more importantly, where it occurred. This is, in part, what I meant when I stated the pimp behind the stadium operations has had and still has more than one operation. Get the picture?

As far as you ostensibly knowing who I am and who my client is, you have been pretty certain of your information in the past as I recall. We all know how that turned out. You have now been told that I did not recommend any provider in particular to anyone, and that is likewise a true fact. Whatever the case, this should settle in your mind that my information is accurate.

When I responded to uncle bs (Tim Wilson reference anyone?) , I stated "most" intel is right on point. As Legal pointed out, Sam's trouble was not at the stadium. But it doesn't take a 1st grader to connect the dots my friends.

Stay safe. Be smart.

SS,

**Doctor Z** · 11-16-11 23:08

Originally Posted by StopTheBS [View Original Post]

I had a copy of the report from the stadium. I would guess it was a year or so ago. Nicki / Taylor / Sam was given a citation as well as The Troy. Nicki was fired for offering more than the regular menu then went to work with Jasmine. Troy was released of any wrongdoing due to the lease structure of his building. Undercovers are at these places all the time. As you all are aware FS is not offered at the stadium therefore there is less risk.

I know exactly who Legal works for and who he is. He is not a concern of mine.

I don't get why he would be a concern to you because you said your just a customer and not hustlin BS. The info he gave me was legit so I don't get what your deal is for real. Its like you work for that The Troy cat or something.

**Synopsisav** · 11-16-11 22:55

Wow, a Rube Goldberd reference on USA Sex Guide. I have seen it all now.

By the way, you all really need to listen to Legal. He is giving very good info and advice.

**Legal Eagle** · 11-16-11 21:25

Originally Posted by StopTheBS [View Original Post]

I had a copy of the report from the stadium. I would guess it was a year or so ago. Nicki / Taylor / Sam was given a citation as well as The Troy. Nicki was fired for offering more than the regular menu then went to work with Jasmine. Troy was released of any wrongdoing due to the lease structure of his building. Undercovers are at these places all the time. As you all are aware FS is not offered at the stadium therefore there is less risk.

I know exactly who Legal works for and who he is. He is not a concern of mine.

Except that "Sam" was not arrested or even cited at the "stadium," BS. She was part of the same group of providers, but was based out in the east end, as you know."The Troy" referred to this very fact in an earlier post on this board. I would provide the link to the news account of this incident but it reveals her real name in the report of the incident. Most of the mongers know already know who "Sam" was and what occurred and, more importantly, where it occurred. This is, in part, what I meant when I stated the pimp behind the stadium operations has had and still has more than one operation. Get the picture?

As far as you ostensibly knowing who I am and who my client is, you have been pretty certain of your information in the past as I recall. We all know how that turned out. You have now been told that I did not recommend any provider in particular to anyone, and that is likewise a true fact. Whatever the case, this should settle in your mind that my information is accurate.