Legal Discussions / Raids / Busts

[TheRealTroy]

I just posted something similiar to this in the GENRAL REPORTS section before reading what you wrote. I said it was becoming a bit too much for a place that should be the opposite of drama and that I was also not even going to respond to him again or even write about him. Seriously, if he came up to me in public talking the way he writes, I'd probably just roll my eyes and not even say a word. He's on an entirely different page and an intelligent debate with him is impossible. He wants to fight like a child and name call and lie, it's just weird! Majority rules, the board members would like it to cease. It is what it is! And for the record, I 100% believe you Legal!

Go read your post, you brought me up and my name, when you stop running it, ill stop defending myself. But if you keep it up, so will I. Your not the only one who can throw stones. That being said I don't see my name from you, I won't post. Pretty simple.

[TheRealTroy]

I do not know any of the history between you and Vicky, Troy, but even I assumed you were talking about the ABE Company given the post in the MASSAGE thread (I. E, the allegation that you claimed she "stole providers from you.") You did not, incidentally, deny any of what Vicky stated. I do find it interesting, however, that you rail endlessly about her contacting providers. Why would this be of concern to you given your role as a simple landlord? Perhaps you are not as forthcoming as you pretend, Troy.

I could not tell you whether girls routinely go back and forth between bodyrub studios or agencies. That was not and is not my concern in this debate. I shared information, you stated that information was false and I proved you wrong repeatedly. You will deny this, of course. We have heard the denials, so you can spare us all yet another plaintive cry of innocence. You are not credible on this point, Troy. That is the beginning and ending of my area of concern on this issue.

I have made my position on the relationship between you and Deleon clear. You know it, I know it, everyone on this board knows it and the American people know it. You can continue to unfairly attack Vicky and her company, but that has nothing to do with the issue between you and I; one that you fomented by the continuous lies you post on this board under multiple board handles ("Johnballgame" being only one of several.) That much is clear, Troy. You first blamed ThePinkDaisy, then you blamed someone else and now you blame Vicky. You have been wrong each time. Noone other than you and I has anything to do with this, Troy. Accept it and move on.

The board members asked that we end the debate and, with the exception of this reply, I have agreed to their request. Stoke the coals if you so chose. Dealing with you is more comical than difficult, Troy. Perhaps you should consider "letting those dogs of your lie" and hope to maintain whatever shred of credibility you have remaining among the membership.

Business is good. I wish all you a good and prosperous year.

[Legal Eagle]

In my first post about this, I never mentioned Abe, you just assumed. And you also say girls go back and forth between places, maybe you could explain that to your legal, cause he thinks if a girl changes places, she still works for same owner. These girls come and go all the time for a number of reasons

I do not know any of the history between you and Vicky, Troy, but even I assumed you were talking about the ABE Company given the post in the MASSAGE thread (I. E, the allegation that you claimed she "stole providers from you.") You did not, incidentally, deny any of what Vicky stated. I do find it interesting, however, that you rail endlessly about her contacting providers. Why would this be of concern to you given your role as a simple landlord? Perhaps you are not as forthcoming as you pretend, Troy.

I could not tell you whether girls routinely go back and forth between bodyrub studios or agencies. That was not and is not my concern in this debate. I shared information, you stated that information was false and I proved you wrong repeatedly. You will deny this, of course. We have heard the denials, so you can spare us all yet another plaintive cry of innocence. You are not credible on this point, Troy. That is the beginning and ending of my area of concern on this issue.

I have made my position on the relationship between you and Deleon clear. You know it, I know it, everyone on this board knows it and the American people know it. You can continue to unfairly attack Vicky and her company, but that has nothing to do with the issue between you and I; one that you fomented by the continuous lies you post on this board under multiple board handles ("Johnballgame" being only one of several.) That much is clear, Troy. You first blamed ThePinkDaisy, then you blamed someone else and now you blame Vicky. You have been wrong each time. Noone other than you and I has anything to do with this, Troy. Accept it and move on.

The board members asked that we end the debate and, with the exception of this reply, I have agreed to their request. Stoke the coals if you so chose. Dealing with you is more comical than difficult, Troy. Perhaps you should consider "letting those dogs of your lie" and hope to maintain whatever shred of credibility you have remaining among the membership.

[TheRealTroy]

I own an agency, and advertise and recruit the way a legitimate agency does. This means posting "help wanted" notices and seeking out employees. Many of the ladies advertising on Backpage. Com and other locations were contacted by A. B. E and asked whether they would be interested in working here. This was in addition to responding to emails and telephone calls seeking information about the agency. This is how it works when you hire people.

As far as I know, none of the people I contacted worked for you, Troy. I said it before and will say it again: I didn't know you, anything about you or any of the places you own and certainly didn't know anyone working for you other than Desirae. I only found out about her prior work history after she came to work with my agency. None of the ads for these ladies indicated anything other than they were working either as escorts or bodyrub girls. All the ads include is a name, a short description of services and a telephone number. There was (and is) nothing about a group or agency reflected in these ads, so there was no way of knowing who was working with or for whom. If you advertised legitimately, you wouldn't cause confusion about associations. And yes, you should know who is who but only if they identify themselves as being "with" someone or some group. You are acting as if these ladies belonged to you at the same time you say that they are working on their own and just renting space from you. If you had any real experience in this profession, you'd know that ladies routinely move from agency to agency and place to place, and they do it over and over again. I didn't force them to do anything they didn't choose to do, and I didn't ask them to leave any of your places because I didn't even know they worked for you in the first place. Is it really that difficult to understand?

Whatever the situation, I didn't know these girls had anything to do with you or anybody else. If they didn't want to work for my agency, they would not have filled out the application, sought and received an escort license from IPL and allowed my agency to pay for their advertisements. If you have a beef, Troy, it is not with me. If those girls wanted to be with you they would have. If you want to let things lay, then let them lay. This nonsensical wound-licking is silly, particularly because I didn't do anything to you.

So drop it, Troy. You can leave my agency's name out of your mouth, stop posting fake comments or questions about A. B. E under different forum accounts and just let it go already. It's what responsible owners of real businesses do.

In my first post about this, I never mentioned Abe, you just assumed. And you also say girls go back and forth between places, maybe you could explain that to your legal, cause he thinks if a girl changes places, she still works for same owner. These girls come and go all the time for a number of reasons

[Abe Girl Vicky]

Make this short and sweet. Ignorance is not an excuse, alot of ads say location and if not you learn fast who is with who. Backpage is not a good place to recruit unless you don't mind stepping on toes. Secondly just a little FYI since you havebeen around awhile, my friend tookyou on your first calls and showed you the ropes. Ville is a small place. Iwish we all could play fair, I post under my real name and stand by what I say, unlike others do KB. I wish you great success this year.

I don't owe you anything, Troy, so no excuses are being offered. I'm telling you the facts, and you can take it as you like. Louisville is a small place. I should know; it's my hometown. The person that showed me the ropes died several years ago, Troy. Your mother would be more familiar with this person very likely.

[TheRealTroy]

Make this short and sweet. Ignorance is not an excuse, alot of ads say location and if not you learn fast who is with who. Backpage is not a good place to recruit unless you don't mind stepping on toes. Secondly just a little FYI since you havebeen around awhile, my friend tookyou on your first calls and showed you the ropes. Ville is a small place. Iwish we all could play fair, I post under my real name and stand by what I say, unlike others do KB. I wish you great success this year.

[Abe Girl Vicky]

I own them all. LOL. I'm not on here anymore to debate hearsay, but I'm positive and have proof in the form of respected providers that in the past 2 years they were contacted numerous times by a certain company via phone and email to come work for them even though they were already working at a place. See I have proof, trusted providers words and the emails still in mailbox. The difference between typing he said / she said, you should know who your emailing before you attach you and your company's name. I hope you have a great year and just please let a sleeping dog sleep, works out best for everyone.

I own an agency, and advertise and recruit the way a legitimate agency does. This means posting "help wanted" notices and seeking out employees. Many of the ladies advertising on Backpage. Com and other locations were contacted by A. B. E and asked whether they would be interested in working here. This was in addition to responding to emails and telephone calls seeking information about the agency. This is how it works when you hire people.

As far as I know, none of the people I contacted worked for you, Troy. I said it before and will say it again: I didn't know you, anything about you or any of the places you own and certainly didn't know anyone working for you other than Desirae. I only found out about her prior work history after she came to work with my agency. None of the ads for these ladies indicated anything other than they were working either as escorts or bodyrub girls. All the ads include is a name, a short description of services and a telephone number. There was (and is) nothing about a group or agency reflected in these ads, so there was no way of knowing who was working with or for whom. If you advertised legitimately, you wouldn't cause confusion about associations. And yes, you should know who is who but only if they identify themselves as being "with" someone or some group. You are acting as if these ladies belonged to you at the same time you say that they are working on their own and just renting space from you. If you had any real experience in this profession, you'd know that ladies routinely move from agency to agency and place to place, and they do it over and over again. I didn't force them to do anything they didn't choose to do, and I didn't ask them to leave any of your places because I didn't even know they worked for you in the first place. Is it really that difficult to understand?

Whatever the situation, I didn't know these girls had anything to do with you or anybody else. If they didn't want to work for my agency, they would not have filled out the application, sought and received an escort license from IPL and allowed my agency to pay for their advertisements. If you have a beef, Troy, it is not with me. If those girls wanted to be with you they would have. If you want to let things lay, then let them lay. This nonsensical wound-licking is silly, particularly because I didn't do anything to you.

So drop it, Troy. You can leave my agency's name out of your mouth, stop posting fake comments or questions about A. B. E under different forum accounts and just let it go already. It's what responsible owners of real businesses do.

[Sunycide]

I own them all. LOL. I'm not on here anymore to debate hearsay, but I'm positive and have proof in the form of respected providers that in the past 2 years they were contacted numerous times by a certain company via phone and email to come work for them even though they were already working at a place. See I have proof, trusted providers words and the emails still in mailbox. The difference between typing he said / she said, you should know who your emailing before you attach you and your company's name. I hope you have a great year and just please let a sleeping dog sleep, works out best for everyone.

My dog sleeps in a cage. Hope that's not a harbinger of things to come! Hahaha.

Y'all know that is funny right there!

[TheRealTroy]

I cannot confirm this, SS. I do not know the providers in question. From her advertisement and reviews here in the forum, she appears to be an attractive, popular girl. Whether she or any of the providers to which you refer works with Troy presently is something of which I am unaware.

I own them all. LOL. I'm not on here anymore to debate hearsay, but I'm positive and have proof in the form of respected providers that in the past 2 years they were contacted numerous times by a certain company via phone and email to come work for them even though they were already working at a place. See I have proof, trusted providers words and the emails still in mailbox. The difference between typing he said / she said, you should know who your emailing before you attach you and your company's name. I hope you have a great year and just please let a sleeping dog sleep, works out best for everyone.

[TheRealTroy]

I cannot confirm this, SS. I do not know the providers in question. From her advertisement and reviews here in the forum, she appears to be an attractive, popular girl. Whether she or any of the providers to which you refer works with Troy presently is something of which I am unaware.

I OWN THEM ALL. LOL. I'm not on here anymore to debate hearsay, but I'm positive and have proof in the form of respected providers that in the past 2 years they were contacted numerous times by a certain company via phone and email to come work for them even though they were already working at a place. See I have proof, trusted providers words and the emails still in mailbox. The difference between typing he said / she said, you should know who your emailing before you attach you and your company's name. I hope you have a great year and just please let a sleeping dog sleep, works out best for everyone.

[Legal Eagle]

So now Chelsey is working out of a popular office in the east end that also houses some well reviewed and popular ladies. Are we to think that Troy has anything to do with this office? To say the least, that would be very disappointing.

I cannot confirm this, SS. I do not know the providers in question. From her advertisement and reviews here in the forum, she appears to be an attractive, popular girl. Whether she or any of the providers to which you refer works with Troy presently is something of which I am unaware.

[TheSportScout]

So now Chelsey is working out of a popular office in the east end that also houses some well reviewed and popular ladies. Are we to think that Troy has anything to do with this office? To say the least, that would be very disappointing.

[Cloud Strife]

If that is the case, then it appears that at least two of the providers mentioned (Lauren and Chelsey) both ended up moving between studios owned by Troy and Deleon or, at the very least, supported by Troy's provider recruiting efforts. Combine this with the mass migration of providers from SS to the stadium and a pattern emerges. Before you chime in, BS; I know you claim the SS where these providers worked was not the same SS incorporated by Deleon in the same city under the same name in the same line of business. You could be right, but the odds are not in your favor.

No; Troy and Deleon could not possibly be in business together. It is not as if Troy ended up with an early copy of the police report relevant to the My1501 investigation. I am certain this is all a series of unrelated coincidences.

In their defense on this one, I don't know if Soothing was ever actually hit, so the migration to the stadium might just be the natural order of one not existing anymore, and there only being like 6 of these business in the Kentuckiana area that are not AMP. Though I don; t know. Take what I say with a grain of salt for this, I know (from everyone else here) that HR is being watched, and I still go there, so maybe I am not the best guy to ask about when it comes to potentially getting hit by a MP sting.

[Crashdog]

Chelsey is still working, Legal Eagle. She went to work with Troy after leaving my place, but I don't know what happened with her after that. She may be on her own now. Anyway, here is her ad:

Chelsey

I saw her at both the soothing sensations in Clarksville across from the Outback Steakhouse and at the Stadium location. Sweet girl, hope someone gave her employee of the month. A lot of the girls that worked there seemed to move in a mass group to the stadium (Randi, Ava).

[Legal Eagle]

Never mind that second part of my last post. 2 posts below says she worked at the Stadium. So there should be Troy.

If that is the case, then it appears that at least two of the providers mentioned (Lauren and Chelsey) both ended up moving between studios owned by Troy and Deleon or, at the very least, supported by Troy's provider recruiting efforts. Combine this with the mass migration of providers from SS to the stadium and a pattern emerges. Before you chime in, BS; I know you claim the SS where these providers worked was not the same SS incorporated by Deleon in the same city under the same name in the same line of business. You could be right, but the odds are not in your favor.

No; Troy and Deleon could not possibly be in business together. It is not as if Troy ended up with an early copy of the police report relevant to the My1501 investigation. I am certain this is all a series of unrelated coincidences.