Now you've got me thinking about it
[QUOTE=MitchCor;5802934]Bump. Any chance Yukigo, Marissa or Lisa456 might provide this? Mickey gives a great HJ with prostate, but hands only afaik. Chen Chen of old was amazing at this. But she's long gone.
So, after a recent experience, I'm looking for the opposite. A fantastic, mindblowing tantric massage with lots of edging, some prostate work, etc. Looks aren't nearly as important. BBBJ or tongue teasing / rimming is nice, but not critical.[/QUOTE]Did you ever find this? Now it's stuck in my head.
How do these businesses work?
Waking in the middle of the night my mind started wondering how are these AMP organized. The girls are mostly tight lipped so knowledge is had to come by. But I figure that there are some old timers around that might know some answers they can pass on. The AMP in south Lynnwood are mostly Korean, Seattle is mostly Chinese. Avalon, with Vietnamese ladies who sometimes allowed anal, was in Seattle. Unfortunately it was raided and closed in about 2006.
1. Are these AMP owned by some sort of "mafia" (Korean or Chinese) or individually. I'm guessing they are not individually owned but part of a chain business. For example in Lynnwood there is Euro, Kings, Lake Serene, Elite, Golden and others. All have mostly Korean ladies. At least some were there for a long time until they dispersed in the last year or so. I went to Kings as early as 1983 when it was Anns.
2, The options for BBBJ and BBFS are pretty unique to Euro for sure (for those that want) and the others frequently. I wonder how that happens? When new girls are added are they told "this is what we offer here"? Are new girls selected because they are open to that service? Certainly in most of Seattle (the Chinese places) you almost never have the opportunity for BBFS, and often FS of any kind.
3. In the heyday when Euro had Rose, Toy, Angie, Candy, Coffee, Lana, Bonnie, Michelle I always wondered how new girls were added or old ones removed. Early, when I went more to Anns (Kings), I would develop a favorite who would always treat you very well on repeat visits. But then she would be gone and no one would tell you anything about where she went. Omerta! A big mystery.
Any thoughts about these issues?
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How these businesses work
[QUOTE=OceanExplorer;5816282]
Any thoughts about these issues?
[/QUOTE]I've known a few of the ladies rather well over the years. While I never asked too much about it they did share a bit of information with me that may or may not be correct.
(1) I have never been clear who the real "owners" are, or if they even exist. All of the shops seem to have some schmuck listed as the owner who is on all of the legal documents, picks up the mail and drops it off, and signs a few random things each year. For that these people appear to be paid a very modest amount of money -- considering the risk. When I say "very modest" it seems like it was only a few thousand a month.
(2) Generally the girls get to keep their tips, and the mama, the "owner", and whomever else seems to be living off of the massage fees. That has always seemed weird to me because it seems like a lot of risk for not very much money.
(3) There is definitely a network that the girls tap into to look for work, and all shops have their own reputations. Funny story: about ten years ago I was at a Korean shop in Boise and mentioned that I visited VIP spa in Everett. The girl smiled and said, "so you don't want to use a condom?
(4) Girls switch jobs for three reasons: #1 is business is slow, #2 is shitty dealings with the mama or other girls, and #3 is shitty creepy customers they need to get away from.
(5) The girls really don't make that much money. And all of the Korean girls I knew were here legally and most were US citizens.
A couple of years ago I had an off-the-record conversation with someone in authority on this topic. He told me that he suspected that a lot of these "massage" businesses were actually fronts used to get money out of certain countries, most recently China. Since they are cashed-based businesses they could be used to launder dollars brought in from China while avoiding capital controls and taxes. I have no way of knowing if he is correct or not but it kind of fits with what I see.
And reps about BBBJ and BBFS.
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2, The options for BBBJ and BBFS are pretty unique to Euro for sure (for those that want) and the others frequently.
[/QUOTE]Not exactly true.
Anne's (now Kings), VIP, and Euro all have had a rep for BBFS for a very long time. When I came into that scene in the mid-90's Anne's and Euro already offered it.
Around the same time there were several shops in Renton that also offered uncovered services. There was one long-gone store on Grady way that had pretty young things, a room with a futon for an extra $20, and several girls who liked it up the ass.
With some exceptions, my own experience is that BBFS and other VIP services are more likely to be available if you are a well-known customer with a good rep. Since I have been playing there for a long time a lot of the mamas remember me (and I probably inseminated them 25 or 30 years ago) so their girls will know what I expect.