[QUOTE=Alas5877;6298347]That last photo is not her. The rest of the photos are accurate, but a bit photoshopped. Her skin is not clean. Bruises and rough complexion.[/QUOTE]Thanks much.
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[QUOTE=Alas5877;6298347]That last photo is not her. The rest of the photos are accurate, but a bit photoshopped. Her skin is not clean. Bruises and rough complexion.[/QUOTE]Thanks much.
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;6292530]To each his own, but please show me a hot 20-something escort charging less than 300 for a half hour for BBFS dates. Hell, for GFE dates. They don't exist as far as I can tell. I'm not going to spend money to fuck a girl that isn't hot or that is old (early 30's is ok, too).
I'm just as frustrated with prices as the next guy, but 300/ hr was not uncommon for a hot escort literally 20 years ago. You can't possibly expect prices to remain the same for 20 years. My problem with today's prices is the lack of service.
Of ladies I'm interested in, meaning hot, pretty, fit 20 somethings, many safety girls are charging $350 or $400 for a HH, with upgrade to daty or BBBJ costing hundreds more. I don't know who the fuck is paying those prices, but they are nuts. Hell, there are ladies out there charging 500, 600, 700 an hour for VIP Services, and some of them consider VIP to be adding daty only! I definitely have issues with those prices.
But if I could find a gal I thought was genuinely hot that only charged 300 for a half hour of GFE with BBFS, I'd get all over that in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WarpFactor69;6293084]They're in california. Yes, the place with gasoline that costs a dollar more per gallon and real estate prices that are through the roof, compared to here. So far, that state has not been playing the PNW artificial inflation scam game. Inflation is everywhere in the sex business, but not like the spike we had here. I refuse to be part of the problem.[/QUOTE]They're found in a lot of places, typically young semi-pros that either work as escorts on the side or are curious and don't know much about going prices and so on. Really depends on what's going on locally population-wise, again, and was much better when more casual places like craiglist and backpage were still popular, though I'd run into girls who offer just on the streets too, especially when rent used to come around.
Down in say Killeen, you could find a 20 year old sexy black spinner or some preppy college queen who already basically sleep with every dude that so much as blinks at them and who like being "the sexy girl" and wouldn't charge more than 100-200 for session without formal clock watching or time blocks because they don't know better. Harder to find them now on dedicated escort sites because most of those ladies have been escorts for a while or can easily see the prices everyone else is charging. You know what people do when they sell some random thing on ebay? They look up what everyone else is selling it at first.
I've had a similar experience in Florida and Colorado. Warpfactor is 100% correct about this being an inflation of prices. Not sure where the heck you were paying 300 for "hot" escorts 20 years ago, but jeeezus I'm sorry. I'm neither handsome nor super rich and I've found more than a few ladies at far better prices that were young and fit, a few even truly stunning. Mostly semi-pros, sure, but even regular pros too. Again, in central texas, plenty of younger fit escorts of all races used to be willing to BBFS at reasonable prices; I remember once upon a time when I was paying 80 for hh and 120 for an hour. Now you have to really scrape just to find someone with a long list of "no's" that's going to dead fish charging you 200 for hh.
Anyway, they used to be pretty common, not sure if it's simply all the recent changes in the states or just how portland is. Maybe both. I haven't been here long enough to know what it was like before, everyone I know keeps telling me that portland used to not suck so much but I'm doubtful of that, LOL.
[QUOTE=Sscdrake;6299350]They're found in a lot of places, typically young semi-pros that either work as escorts on the side or are curious and don't know much about going prices and so on. Really depends on what's going on locally population-wise, again, and was much better when more casual places like craiglist and backpage were still popular, though I'd run into girls who offer just on the streets too, especially when rent used to come around.
Down in say Killeen, you could find a 20 year old sexy black spinner or some preppy college queen who already basically sleep with every dude that so much as blinks at them and who like being "the sexy girl" and wouldn't charge more than 100-200 for session without formal clock watching or time blocks because they don't know better. Harder to find them now on dedicated escort sites because most of those ladies have been escorts for a while or can easily see the prices everyone else is charging. You know what people do when they sell some random thing on ebay? They look up what everyone else is selling it at first.
I've had a similar experience in Florida and Colorado. Warpfactor is 100% correct about this being an inflation of prices. Not sure where the heck you were paying 300 for "hot" escorts 20 years ago, but jeeezus I'm sorry. I'm neither handsome nor super rich and I've found more than a few ladies at far better prices that were young and fit, a few even truly stunning. Mostly semi-pros, sure, but even regular pros too. Again, in central texas, plenty of younger fit escorts of all races used to be willing to BBFS at reasonable prices; I remember once upon a time when I was paying 80 for hh and 120 for an hour. Now you have to really scrape just to find someone with a long list of "no's" that's going to dead fish charging you 200 for hh.
Anyway, they used to be pretty common, not sure if it's simply all the recent changes in the states or just how portland is. Maybe both. I haven't been here long enough to know what it was like before, everyone I know keeps telling me that portland used to not suck so much but I'm doubtful of that, LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm talking about Portland, not Texas. I don't doubt that what I want is available in other parts of the country. People are complaining in this thread about Portland prices.
As far as $300 for hot escorts 20 years ago, I'm talking the top girls in Sesttle. Victoria Vin Helkine, Lieselle, another babe that was even hotter than those two. Sure, there were girls charging 200 to 250 for MSOG hours back then, but very very few really hot ones charging less than that for an hour, at least in Portland.
I did take some trips to Montreal back then, and that was amazing and far less expensive per date, but considering I was fucking 1 or 2 girls a day, it was not an inexpensive trip. The French Courteans were insane. $400 Canadian for 2 hours of GFE with a literal Goddess.
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;6300191]I'm talking about Portland, not Texas. I don't doubt that what I want is available in other parts of the country. People are complaining in this thread about Portland prices.
[/QUOTE]At this point all of my money mainly goes to touring ladies. The CT girls are a good value relative to locals. The touring euros are hot as hell and charge a pretty penny but the service is very hit or miss with a lot of them. I remember when privilege was around my batting average felt like 45-50% good visits with them. I think they are still bringing girls here but not using the agency name anymore. Just a question, would paying these touring girls have any effect on our local market? I don't really think there are any locals really worth regularly seeing. The best ones in the last two years have been in and out of the game and a good number of them have offered BBFS.
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;6300191]I'm talking about Portland, not Texas. I don't doubt that what I want is available in other parts of the country. People are complaining in this thread about Portland prices.
As far as $300 for hot escorts 20 years ago, I'm talking the top girls in Sesttle. Victoria Vin Helkine, Lieselle, another babe that was even hotter than those two. Sure, there were girls charging 200 to 250 for MSOG hours back then, but very very few really hot ones charging less than that for an hour, at least in Portland.
I did take some trips to Montreal back then, and that was amazing and far less expensive per date, but considering I was fucking 1 or 2 girls a day, it was not an inexpensive trip. The French Courteans were insane. $400 Canadian for 2 hours of GFE with a literal Goddess.[/QUOTE]Well, don't know what to tell you, then. As another poster said, even Cali and Seattle are generally better. I'm baffled as to why portland is like this. Every time I gander at any of the escort sites I just end up sighing and trying to text one of my regulars instead. Prices slowly creep up while the list of "no's" do too on girls that don't look anywhere near close to prices they charge. I'm not shaming anyone, but to me it's just weird to see some 350 pound 50 year old with a sky-high list of no's charging 300 for hh lmao.
You're right in that, though, unless you get lucky you're not going to easily fine a young beauty at reasonable prices who is accommodating.
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;6300191]I'm talking the top girls in Sesttle. Victoria Vin Helkine, Lieselle, another babe that was even hotter than those two.[/QUOTE]Whoa Victoria murdered a client?
[URL]https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/06/tigard-police-wa-detectives-searched-murder-suspects-van-friends-home-without-search-warrant.html?outputType=amp[/URL]
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;6300191]I'm talking about Portland, not Texas. I don't doubt that what I want is available in other parts of the country. People are complaining in this thread about Portland prices.
As far as $300 for hot escorts 20 years ago, I'm talking the top girls in Sesttle. Victoria Vin Helkine, Lieselle, another babe that was even hotter than those two. Sure, there were girls charging 200 to 250 for MSOG hours back then, but very very few really hot ones charging less than that for an hour, at least in Portland.
I did take some trips to Montreal back then, and that was amazing and far less expensive per date, but considering I was fucking 1 or 2 girls a day, it was not an inexpensive trip. The French Courteans were insane. $400 Canadian for 2 hours of GFE with a literal Goddess.[/QUOTE]You ain't kidding brother! The women in Montreal are gorgeous!
[QUOTE=Samadams17;6302915]At this point all of my money mainly goes to touring ladies. The CT girls are a good value relative to locals. The touring euros are hot as hell and charge a pretty penny but the service is very hit or miss with a lot of them. I remember when privilege was around my batting average felt like 45-50% good visits with them. I think they are still bringing girls here but not using the agency name anymore. Just a question, would paying these touring girls have any effect on our local market? I don't really think there are any locals really worth regularly seeing. The best ones in the last two years have been in and out of the game and a good number of them have offered BBFS.[/QUOTE]What is a "CT girl"?
[QUOTE=Isaiah70;6305722]What is a "CT girl"?[/QUOTE]The Casey Tyler girls are hot touring girls that travel through Portland regularly. At least their pics are of hot girls, I've never booked with any of them.
[QUOTE=WilsonPdx;6305815]The Casey Tyler girls are hot touring girls that travel through Portland regularly. At least their pics are of hot girls, I've never booked with any of them.[/QUOTE]I booked with one of them for a HH once, which they were advertising and what I go for (my back can't take more than that) but when I showed up in the parking lot at a big hotel off I-5 near Tigard she asked if I would commit to an hour (and more $) and then told me she wasn't feeling well and cancelled. It gave me the impression that there was a group business discussion going on, which kills the vibe for me LOL.
So I started going to AMPs about 3 years ago went roughly once a month but wanted a different experience so started seeing escorts a few months ago.
I've only seen 4 women so far but everyone has been a better experience then going to massage parlors. Anyway I was looking for Greek and hit up this provider I've seen reviewed in a couple places. Setup was easy and got the address to her private incall.
Anyway get in and she starts giving me a massage to get relaxed. After the rub down we end up talking for about 30 minutes which was how long I scheduled our date LOL.
On to the fun, she goes straight to a BBBJ after she got me nice and hard then she asked if I wanted to get behind her and she got on all fours. Not one questioned asked and I slipped in her raw. She was warm and wet and had me forget about going Greek. After a while we switched to reverse cowgirl and I filled her up with everything I had.
Don't know why hitting one of these ladies raw is better than doing it with someone you know but I can't wait to do it again.
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Don't know why hitting one of these ladies raw is better than doing it with someone you know but I can't wait to do it again.[/QUOTE]We know exactly what you mean. That's what drives us. We all hope that the 5 guys right before you that were hitting it raw, didn't bring a little extra to the party for you.
[QUOTE=WilsonPdx;6305815]The Casey Tyler girls are hot touring girls that travel through Portland regularly. At least their pics are of hot girls, I've never booked with any of them.[/QUOTE]Where do you find their advertisements or book with them?
Hope you mean this one but I'll bet you mean the redhead.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?237139-MuseScarlett[/URL]
[QUOTE=DickHertz1965;6307149]Hope you mean this one but I'll bet you mean the redhead.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?237139-MuseScarlett[/URL][/QUOTE]Both you think are wrong. If you search the exact name he posted you'll find the right one.