Anyone working the Sugar Daddy's sites in the Las Vegas area? I'm just starting my quest on seeking arrangements dot com. I will keep you posted
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Anyone working the Sugar Daddy's sites in the Las Vegas area? I'm just starting my quest on seeking arrangements dot com. I will keep you posted
I've worked both sites. SA and SD4m. I've had success with both. There are plusses and minuses and you find a spirited debate on in the Los Angeles and Richmond Forums. I am current working SA. Here is my story:
So, I've got two AA spinners in the 18. 24 bracket that confirmed offers on the table of 1K and 1. 5K a month. They can both host. Unlimited visits and they want to be exclusive to me (I'm not sure if I believe that but hey I'll go with). My thought is that it's like a contract term. If I catch them cheating I can use it as a excuse to renegotiate the agreement down. Still need to do the Meet & Greet (M&G) and check chemistry. Have negotiated initial trial amounts with both.
Not going to make a commitment because I'm in negotiations with a hot latin spinner who is all about chemistry and a athletic white girl who has this girl next door look. I am surprised that they are all looking for one Sugar Daddy and they want exclusivity. They can be exclusive with me. I'm fucking who I want (LOL)!
I am hoping others will chime so we can set the local SB market. My thoughts are we don't have to worry about the visitors. The power we have as locals is that our money is consistent. Out of town money is high but inconsistent. So, when I get these responses that this is Vegas and you are not offering enough I don't even worry about it. There is a woman on the site that will find my offering to be enough and will be appreciative of it. After all most of the women on the site are giving it away for free in their personal lives. Most of them are not PRO's.
If someone is a scam or PRO. Shout them out with profile number and picture. Picture is important. Profiles can be changed. And the women do it all the time to maintain a fresh look. Good Hunting!
Good luck to you. It okay to dream on, but having a exclusive right will probably cost you over your range mentioned for a decent girl, unless you talking street hoa. Realistically, how many bangs can you get out of 1K? Verity is the name of the game. If you want exclusive, then it's call wife or gf and that's no fun.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1728011]I've worked both sites. SA and SD4m. I've had success with both. There are plusses and minuses and you find a spirited debate on in the Los Angeles and Richmond Forums. I am current working SA. Here is my story:
So, I've got two AA spinners in the 18. 24 bracket that confirmed offers on the table of 1K and 1. 5K a month. They can both host. Unlimited visits and they want to be exclusive to me (I'm not sure if I believe that but hey I'll go with). My thought is that it's like a contract term. If I catch them cheating I can use it as a excuse to renegotiate the agreement down. Still need to do the Meet & Greet (M&G) and check chemistry. Have negotiated initial trial amounts with both.
Not going to make a commitment because I'm in negotiations with a hot latin spinner who is all about chemistry and a athletic white girl who has this girl next door look. I am surprised that they are all looking for one Sugar Daddy and they want exclusivity. They can be exclusive with me. I'm fucking who I want (LOL)!
Attention! Commander on deck![/QUOTE]Pay them by the week and see how it goes. Can you post a link to their profile? I would stick to the $250 a week amount. Worst case scenario you are out the $250 because the chemistry wasn't exactly what you were looking for. Try to get at least 4 visits the first week. Once you add in the food, drinks maybe a trip to cvs it could go to $400 for the week. Still comes out to $ a visit.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1728210]Pay them by the week and see how it goes. Can you post a link to their profile? I would stick to the $250 a week amount. Worst case scenario you are out the $250 because the chemistry wasn't exactly what you were looking for. Try to get at least 4 visits the first week. Once you add in the food, drinks maybe a trip to cvs it could go to $400 for the week. Still comes out to $ a visit.[/QUOTE]I would do the same or go with each bang. If you want exclusive, then it's call wife or gf and that's no fun. Lot of us already have that.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1728011]They can be exclusive with me. I'm fucking who I want (LOL)![/QUOTE]I appreciate the suggestions gentlemen. But can I get some information on the deals YOU are working on in this market as opposed to just commenting on mine? How about some examples of techniques that you have used that might be particular to the Las Vegas market? How about some tales of success and failures within this market?
I am still in negotiations. I have already got them to agree to 250 for the week to start. With a plan of at least two visits that is 125 to start. I bust twice each session as a minimum. Inexpensive dinner and they host. I'm looking at a Cost Per Orgasm = CPO of 100 max. 400 a week. I don't think that is too bad. Compare that with some of the well reviewed escorts here in Vegas or a casino girl IMHO and for me it the best pussy deal to be had. Even if you have to get a room, given the Sunday though Thursday rates in this town it is a small price to pay. And depending upon your tastes you can get young fresh low milage pussy compared to the rest of the PRO & UTR market. Now I know the deal. Any woman that is willing to sell pussy to me is willing to sell it to the next mother fucker that shows up with money.
Here is my logic: I am trying to learn the Las Vegas SB market. I want to know what these women have in their heads as a fair amount. What are they looking for monthly. Then I ask them how many visits can I have. That gives me a ball park figure cost per visit. Now they are not thinking that way. They are looking at the big picture and focusing on how much they are going to get for the month.
Since my standard is always: Can we break it down for the week to start? Then after a month go to every two weeks then after the next month when we are comfortable go with a monthly allowance? I never gotten a no. And I require a test run at $100. It makes them put some skin in the game. I do not have to continue after the first visit.
As for variety, I don't need to fuck five different women on five different nights. In fact I have fucked five different women IN the same night. My goal is to fuck on a consistent basis. I want to know when I am fucking and who I am going to be fucking. And I respectfully submit that all you mother fuckers out there can set up YOUR fuck schedule to satisfy YOUR own personal preferences.
I am focused on the deals to be found in THIS particular pussy market. And the techniques that work best to close them.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1728015]I am hoping others will chime so we can set the local SB market. My thoughts are we don't have to worry about the visitors. The power we have as locals is that our money is consistent. Out of town money is high but inconsistent. So, when I get these responses that this is Vegas and you are not offering enough I don't even worry about it. There is a woman on the site that will find my offering to be enough and will be appreciative of it. After all most of the women on the site are giving it away for free in their personal lives. Most of them are not PRO's.
If someone is a scam or PRO. Shout them out with profile number and picture. Picture is important. Profiles can be changed. And the women do it all the time to maintain a fresh look. Good Hunting!
Attention! Commander on deck![/QUOTE]I think for the amount of time and money you're putting in makes me think that you're wasting your time can it be done sure but I think it's six of one half a dozen of the other. Just saying.
It's perfectly fine to comment on anybody's post, that's why it's called a forum.
In negotiations with a HYCB White; 18 to 24 range; 1K / month; hosts; two visits a week; has girl next door looks; waiting to hear back if she agrees to overnights and my weekly payment plan to start.
In negotiations with Young Hot Hispanic (my favorite) spinner that wants 2K a month. Simply stated her request was too high. No counter offer waiting to see if she will negotiate down against herself. Funny story. Says she is only fucking her boss right now and is willing to stop if we enter an arrangement.
New inquiry from young AA. 18. 24 range, baby fat, needs workout program. No numbers yet.
Attention! Commander on deck!
HYCB = Hot young college babe.
Had a contact with a POT about three month ago on a trip out to Vegas. She was a gorgeous blond Barbie doll type with huge tits. Very fun to chat with spunky and sexy. But when it came time to meet she was quite flaky.
Found out she worked at Spearmint Rhino. Probably no way I could convince her to come out and play without some serious jam.
Anyway it was a bust. Stick with the amateurs much better chances.
Be careful out there.
Revvo
I'm not even in town and I've just closed my first deal!
LVSB001; Source: SA; 29 year old; blonde; MILF; needs a little extra help; Says "Let me know your schedule, I will make time for you"; NSA; $100 a visit; and that gentlemen is how it is done.
I LOVE being a Sugar Daddy!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1729609]I'm not even in town and I've just closed my first deal!
LVSB001; Source: SA; 29 year old; blonde; MILF; needs a little extra help; Says "Let me know your schedule, I will make time for you"; NSA; $100 a visit; and that gentlemen is how it is done.
I LOVE being a Sugar Daddy!
Attention! Commander on deck![/QUOTE]The Wall Street Journal reported today that in spite of White House efforts to prop up the market, that the unemployment rate for Sugar Babies is continuing to rise. Serious Sugar Daddies are continuing to spend too much capital in the SW, Online Escort and AMP markets. While efforts are being made to rectify the situation the overflow of available SB's is causing a deflation rate in many major cities across the USA.
Internationally this phenomenon seems to be prevalent as well, except in China where 9's and 10's are commanding all time record prices. Consult your local thread on this site and a reputable Monger in your area to research how you can rearrange your portfolio to better capitalize on this emerging trend.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1729609]I'm not even in town and I've just closed my first deal!
LVSB001; Source: SA; 29 year old; blonde; MILF; needs a little extra help; Says "Let me know your schedule, I will make time for you"; NSA; $100 a visit; and that gentlemen is how it is done.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MasterJedi;1728327]I would do the same or go with each bang.[/QUOTE]WOW. This is too funny. $100 per visit? Just about any provider is willing to do a repeat for that, been there, done that.
I'm glad you listened to my advice.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1728813]All opinions and comments are welcome But not necessarily useful.[/QUOTE]TRUE that!
Post from LA forum. Certainly a different perspective on SD.
[QUOTE]It is hard work being a sugar daddy. At least compared to seeing escorts or going to AMPs. Yes, in a successful SD / SB arrangement, the girl should be servicing you on your whims. But being a sugar daddy also requires you to be in deep cover (especially if you're married or have a high profile job). You have to keep track of aliases, hide communications, hide / destroy receipts, keep identifying info away from her at all times, avoid serious emotional attachment, and etc.
The end product with a SB is often far more satisfying than it is with an escort or Pro. But in comparison it takes a lot of work both in acquiring and maintaining. So don't kid yourself. If you under-estimate the work involved, you'll probably get burnt sooner rather than later.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]There are problems and issues with getting tail no matter what. SWs are handy but finding a good one can be a challenge. Escorts the same plus a lot more expensive. In-call places or massage parlors ditto. If you want a true gf experience and are willing to invest some time and energy then I guess having a few SBs is definitely a way to go.
My problem is that I bore easily sexually. So all the time I invest in a SB relationship and then I want something new. It is almost better to try the love them and leave them one-night stand-dating scene. But my experience seems similar to others I have noted on this thread. $ can get you something if you aren't too picky. $$ can get you most of what you want. $$$ can usually get you something prime. I prefer the SBs who are relatively new to this. They are thankful for the extra dough and not so jaded yet that they skate in the sack or want more than you might be willing to part with. SBs are on the menu for sure and IMHO are a lot better than the escorts / in-call / massage parlor scene. So for me it is SWs for a snack and SBs for a more satisfying meal[/QUOTE]
MJ.
I do not see your point. Are you saying that the perspective quoted from the LA Forum is different? If so from whom or what? The quotes from the LA forum reflect some hard won experience gathered through no small amount of risk. These experiences contribute massively to the value of this endeavor.
Question for you. Have you made any efforts in the sugar bowl? If so how has your experience been? How does your personal experience compare with other providers? What is it costing you? How did you arrive at these amounts?
I am trying to see your point. Help us out.
Be careful out there.
Revvo
[QUOTE]Drunker Irish posted this warning on the DC board, and I think it's worth reposting here.
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/sugar-daddy-extortion-578452[/url][/QUOTE]Gentlemen,
If your girls get out of line: Show no fear!
It is garden tools like these that give real Sugar Babies a bad name. Straight up gold digger with Golden Pussy Syndrome (Reference Richmond). And she is Hispanic. Usually only the White Girl's have delusions of grandeur like this.
SA Profile Number. 1384933.
[quote]Description:
My standards have been raised by men with every arrangement I've had. And the happier you make this Princess, the better for you. It takes a lot to keep me happy and even more to keep you around. Are you that generous REAL Sugar Daddy? Please, no wannabe SD's or amateurs. And If you are, be ready to hand over a very generous tribute just to say hello. I'm here for a serious fun time living in the lap of luxury with a very generous MAN. Long term Daddy's always welcome.
Arrangement I am Seeking.
I'm Seeking: Sugar Daddy.
I Expect: US$10, 001 to $20, 000 monthly.
Description:
Direct deposits and cash are mandatory to satisfy my ideal arrangement. 2 credit cards should be put on reserve for shopping, booking trips and travel expenses. I am open for NSA relationship but prefer exclusivity. Discretion of our arrangement is a must. And FUN on both parts is required! So if you are that REAM SD man, message me now. This Goddess is a very busy gal in demand. Xo.[/quote]
P4P Las Vegas Sugar Baby Market.
5 to 6 = $
7 to 8 = $.5.
9 = $$
10 = $$+
This is the single girl 18 to 24 year old market. Subtract 50 for every five years. MILFs get a flat $ due to the child care hassle. If you are traveler avoid MILFs at all cost. They often don't have their child care in order and will cancel on you at the last minute.
A Sugar Baby (SB) gets paid by the event not the sexual activity or time. A minimum visit should be 2 to 4 hours of playtime. Playtime is defined as time spent in the private space together. Chemistry can often lead to overnights. And you can negotiate a overnight into the initial allowance. I suggest that traveling Sugar Daddies (SD) avoid the overnight with a unknown SB. This is P4P. Sugar for benefits. Be very careful advancing sugar for benefits to be received later. Some SD's do it. I do not recommend it.
If she starts asking you about time. She is pro. If she starts asking about explicit sex acts. She is a pro. If she wants the money up front. She is a pro. If she wants to come straight to your room. She is a pro. A true Sugar Baby wants to check you out, maybe have a drink or dinner, fuck you and get paid afterwards. So, you have to factor those costs into your over all expenses. The young women are often on diets and very weight conscious. I've never had one try to break the bank at a meal. Now it is perfectly acceptable to discuss her "allowance" up front. And you can negotiate if you want. I don't. For two reasons. You don't want be with some one that is not happy during your time together. And if they have delusional view of what their pussy is worth, chances are they also have a no idea what they are doing in the bedroom either.
The motivation of the SB can be they truly are attracted to older men, they might be tired of fucking men their own age who don't have anything to offer them financially, MILFs who need money to get by in day to day life, They may have had a child early in life and never got their financial life launched or divorced and unable to live the lifestyle they were accustomed too. In the MILF area look for active women in the athletic and Fitness areas. Then you have GMILF who just like to live large at the later part of life. They are the hardest to get on a P4P basis they are often not really in it for the money but for the perceived quality of male in The Sugar World. True value is 18 to 24 year old who lives at home or is going to school and has a job or parental support. These are the ones taking dick for fun and profit. Also, I find lots of value in the MILF market. If you ease up on them body and age wise they are often stellar bedroom performers who are appreciative of ALL of your gifts. There is nothing better than to have just spent that last two hours pounding a garden tool into the mattress and be driving home afterward when you receive a text saying "thank you when can I see you again."
The Las Vegas Sugar Baby Market is skewed by traveling SD's who want the pussy so bad they over pay for it. If you are a traveling SD pay for what you want. But don't pay more than you would pay a true professional. With a SB you NEVER know what you are going to get in the bedroom. As a local I have staying power. I'm going to be here long after you leave. So when the winter months come and the foolish dick stops getting off the plane as frequently, my more modest allowances start looking better and they are more consistent. I can work with a SB to improve her sexual skills. I have the time. The traveling SD's pussy clock starts counting down once they have wheels down.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1733911]P4P Las Vegas Sugar Baby Market.
5 to 6 = $
7 to 8 = $.5.
9 = $$
10 = $$+
This is the single girl 18 to 24 year old market. Subtract 50 for every five years. MILFs get a flat $ due to the child care hassle. If you are traveler avoid MILFs at all cost. They often don't have their child care in order and will cancel on you at the last minute.
A Sugar Baby (SB) gets paid by the event not the sexual activity or time. A minimum visit should be 2 to 4 hours of playtime. Playtime is defined as time spent in the private space together. Chemistry can often lead to overnights. And you can negotiate a overnight into the initial allowance. I suggest that traveling Sugar Daddies (SD) avoid the overnight with a unknown SB. This is P4P. Sugar for benefits. Be very careful advancing sugar for benefits to be received later. Some SD's do it. I do not recommend it.
If she starts asking you about time. She is pro. If she starts asking about explicit sex acts. She is a pro. If she wants the money up front. She is a pro. If she wants to come straight to your room. She is a pro. A true Sugar Baby wants to check you out, maybe have a drink or dinner, fuck you and get paid afterwards. So, you have to factor those costs into your over all expenses. The young women are often on diets and very weight conscious. I've never had one try to break the bank at a meal. Now it is perfectly acceptable to discuss her "allowance" up front. And you can negotiate if you want. I don't. For two reasons. You don't want be with some one that is not happy during your time together. And if they have delusional view of what their pussy is worth, chances are they also have a no idea what they are doing in the bedroom either.
The motivation of the SB can be they truly are attracted to older men, they might be tired of fucking men their own age who don't have anything to offer them financially, MILFs who need money to get by in day to day life, They may have had a child early in life and never got their financial life launched or divorced and unable to live the lifestyle they were accustomed too. In the MILF area look for active women in the athletic and Fitness areas. Then you have GMILF who just like to live large at the later part of life. They are the hardest to get on a P4P basis they are often not really in it for the money but for the perceived quality of male in The Sugar World. True value is 18 to 24 year old who lives at home or is going to school and has a job or parental support. These are the ones taking dick for fun and profit. Also, I find lots of value in the MILF market. If you ease up on them body and age wise they are often stellar bedroom performers who are appreciative of ALL of your gifts. There is nothing better than to have just spent that last two hours pounding a garden tool into the mattress and be driving home afterward when you receive a text saying "thank you when can I see you again."
The Las Vegas Sugar Baby Market is skewed by traveling SD's who want the pussy so bad they over pay for it. If you are a traveling SD pay for what you want. But don't pay more than you would pay a true professional. With a SB you NEVER know what you are going to get in the bedroom. As a local I have staying power. I'm going to be here long after you leave. So when the winter months come and the foolish dick stops getting off the plane as frequently, my more modest allowances start looking better and they are more consistent. I can work with a SB to improve her sexual skills. I have the time. The traveling SD's pussy clock starts counting down once they have wheels down.
Just say no to expensive crack!
ATTENTION! Commander on deck![/QUOTE]Here Here and There There. Very good info. I would only add that as the urgency to fill your schedule decreases (as you acquire a baby or 2) there will be a direct correlation to an increase in babe quality and a lowering of costs to acquire them. Also there is a sub catagory of girls that are even more attracted to a daddy with multiple girls. Their competitive nature combined with their need to have a proven so-called real SD and a strong need for approval (and what could be stronger than approval from a daddy that has quality choices abounding) makes them all the more willing to share their time and eager to prove their worthiness.
Start a spreadsheet (encrypted if necessary) of all activity costs. Year over year you will see an increased ROI in all areas.
It was almost exactly one year ago. I sure wish I would have had the wisdom of this forum then to prevent some embarrassing rookie mistakes.
I was coming from out of state to Vegas alone for the weekend and thought it would be more fun to spend what I would normally spend on CGs and strip clubs for the company of one girl for the entire weekend.
THE GOOD.
I found a 21-year-old white girl who, when we met, looked as good if not better than her pictures. No beauty contestant, but seemed somewhat like a genuine girl-next-door. For the entire weekend, she was there when I wanted her there, gone when I didn't, and back when I did again. Had some once-in-a-lifetime (for me, at least) experiences, such as getting a BJ in the back of a limo, going to a strip club with a girl, and getting bottle service at a club. She was pretty fun outside of the room, and wild inside. She seemed pretty enthusiastic about making me happy, especially at first. Admittedly, though, once she saw what a sucker I was, that seemed to give her the leverage and took away some of her motivation to cater to me.
THE BAD
She was a provider. I found out later (HUGE BLUNDER NOT GOOGLE-ING HER NUMBER BEFOREHAND). From reviews I read, she sounded like a pretty low-budget, high-volume provider. Made me kind of sick to my stomach.
THE UGLY.
I WAY overpaid. I can't bring myself to share an exact number for fear of losing every last shred of respect on this forum. Considering direct cash payments, things I bought her, entertainment expenses, it was in the 2K neighborhood over the course of the weekend. I had read far too many female-authored forums about the sugar bowl, without getting the other side to counter-balance. So I was under the impression that was what I would have to spend to get what I wanted. That's why I'm glad to see forums such as this. In hindsight, I'm quite certain I would have actually gotten a better experience from her if I had actually understood the market and negotiated. My willingness to overpay made her take me for a sucker, I'm sure.
Although I realize now I could probably get what I had that weekend for a fraction of the cost. And with a girl who engages in prostitution on a lighter grey shade of the spectrum. I think I may stick with CGs. Sugar seems like a little too much work and complication for what I'm seeking. To me, hunting CGs is all about the thrill of the chase. I find the whole process fun. Also, although the comparative risk is debatable, with a sugar baby, I have to worry too much about being seen in public, blackmail, my computer being compromised, etc.
Anyway, hope some of you can learn from my mistakes.
Let me be more specific. This is a different perspective than people who believe sb / sd arrangement is only option. Thanks, I didn't have to write all that myself.
[QUOTE]It is hard work being a sugar daddy. At least compared to seeing escorts or going to AMPs. Yes, in a successful SD / SB arrangement, the girl should be servicing you on your whims. But being a sugar daddy also requires you to be in deep cover (especially if you're married or have a high profile job). You have to keep track of aliases, hide communications, hide / destroy receipts, keep identifying info away from her at all times, avoid serious emotional attachment, and etc.
The end product with a SB is often far more satisfying than it is with an escort or Pro. But in comparison it takes a lot of work both in acquiring and maintaining. So don't kid yourself. If you under-estimate the work involved, you'll probably get burnt sooner rather than later.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]There are problems and issues with getting tail no matter what. SWs are handy but finding a good one can be a challenge. Escorts the same plus a lot more expensive. In-call places or massage parlors ditto. If you want a true gf experience and are willing to invest some time and energy then I guess having a few SBs is definitely a way to go.
My problem is that I bore easily sexually. So all the time I invest in a SB relationship and then I want something new. It is almost better to try the love them and leave them one-night stand-dating scene. But my experience seems similar to others I have noted on this thread. $ can get you something if you aren't too picky. $$ can get you most of what you want. $$$ can usually get you something prime. I prefer the SBs who are relatively new to this. They are thankful for the extra dough and not so jaded yet that they skate in the sack or want more than you might be willing to part with. SBs are on the menu for sure and IMHO are a lot better than the escorts / in-call / massage parlor scene. So for me it is SWs for a snack and SBs for a more satisfying meal.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1735246]MasterJedi,
I don't believe that The Sugar World is the only option to buy pussy. I simply believe it is the best way (long or short term) to buy pussy. Some people like everyday low prices at Walmart. I prefer to shop at Nordstrom when they are having a sale. Either way when we leave the store we all have exactly what we set out to buy in the bag.
And let me be specific. There are some straight up dumb ass ignorant mother fuckers posting in the Las Vegas forum! They either don't believe or don't know how to set up a one time arrangement in The Sugar World. They shouldn't just sit on the sidelines with their dicks in hands, whining in their "girly man" voices and being pissed off! If they don't know and they want to know, then they better ask somebody!
ATTENTION! Commander on deck[/QUOTE]I don't think a lot of people realize that the SD sites have evolved to include every class of girl, from civi daters to SW's and everything in between
While not in Las Vegas, the Sugar World works very well for me. Currently seeing a couple of 20-25 year olds at 100-200 per meeting. Also seeing a couple of married SBs. Those are the fun ones. Take them out to dinner, bang them, and then send home to hubby. Hubby ain't giving them what they need and so they're out selling it. Just helping them out.
Sea Out
I use sugardaddyforme and have had a lot of success. I just e-mail them with a standard "you're really pretty, let's talk maybe we can work something out". I've gotten probably 10 girls from that site for 250 and under.
[QUOTE=Pokerprolv;1735468]I use sugardaddyforme and have had a lot of success. I just e-mail them with a standard "you're really pretty, let's talk maybe we can work something out". I've gotten probably 10 girls from that site for 250 and under.[/QUOTE]For $250 I can 99% of the girls on that site. LOL. Try offering $ a date or $$.5 per WEEK. Unless they are true 10/10/10's (white or asian) then I can understand
Arrive in Vegas on Saturday and chilling with friends (by choice and design).
LVSB001 meeting me on Sunday afternoon; On Monday bringing her lunch. Back seat action after lunch in her parking lot at work. Tuesday hotel meeting after work. Sugar amount: $. Plus hotel (2 nights) , meals (Brunch. 2 dinners, and a liquid lunch) , gifts (shoes & lingerie). CPO report to follow.
Maybe do a interview on Saturday night. Interview Monday night. Interview Tuesday at lunch. Wednesday Breakfast lunch and dinner interview. Meet Ms. Canada on Thursday morning. She will meeting me at the door naked. I love Vegas!
P. S. Why would anyone even consider a CG or Escort?
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[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1736483]Arrive in Vegas on Saturday and chilling with friends (by choice and design).
LVSB001 meeting me on Sunday afternoon; On Monday bringing her lunch. Back seat action after lunch in her parking lot at work. Tuesday hotel meeting after work. Sugar amount: $. Plus hotel (2 nights) , meals (Brunch. 2 dinners, and a liquid lunch) , gifts (shoes & lingerie). CPO report to follow.
Maybe do a interview on Saturday night. Interview Monday night. Interview Tuesday at lunch. Wednesday Breakfast lunch and dinner interview. Meet Ms. Canada on Thursday morning. She will meeting me at the door naked. I love Vegas!
ATTENTION! Commander on deck!
P. S. Why would anyone even consider a CG or Escort?[/QUOTE]Sounds good but what about some us who has limited funds, what advice do you have? I tried this once in LA and I spent more than I would have seeing an escort.
[QUOTE=Taglibug;1736671]Sounds good but what about some us who has limited funds, what advice do you have? I tried this once in LA and I spent more than I would have seeing an escort.[/QUOTE]Mr. Taglibug,
It depends upon what you mean by "limited funds". Give me the numbers from your LA experience and we will figure out what went wrong. I mean this with no disrespect. If you are a sprinter and you done after one race. Yes, most likely a Sugar Baby is not a good deal for you. But if you are more of a long distance runner that can go the distance several times then a Sugar Baby is going to beat a Escort every day of the week.
The average Sugar Baby experience should be 2 to 4 hours with at least two busts. That is my minimum standard. But I've had Sugar Babies show up and I work them for an hour bust once and drop $. Not optimal. But not bad over all as I like to keep my Cost Per Orgasm (CPO) at less than $. Even if you measure by the hour that is $/hour. And that is for a 19 year old African American (AA) spinner. Who did BBBJ. Took a pounding from behind for as hard and as long as I wanted (Complete with hair pulling and ass slapping). Then I flipped her over and finished her off in mish.
But the only way to know for sure is to work actual numbers. I won't know what LVSB001 is going to cost me completely until everything is done. I am most certain to keep my CPO below a hundred and I might get it below that. I will post the results and how I measure success. Let's run the numbers on your LA experience.
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I splurge when I win stack of black chips at the casino, but I'm a bargain hunter without the casino's support. I just posted my report on 'streetwalker reports'. I spent. 3 for CBJ and. 6 for FS. My CPO is. 45 for tonight, so please tell me if anyone can direct me to sb / sd site for the bargain hunters.
[QUOTE=MasterJedi;1738431]I splurge when I win stack of black chips at the casino, but I'm a bargain hunter without the casino's support. I just posted my report on 'streetwalker reports'. I spent. 3 for CBJ and. 6 for FS. My CPO is. 45 for tonight, so please tell me if anyone can direct me to sb / sd site for the bargain hunters.[/QUOTE]MasterJedi,
That is a excellent CPO! Anytime you can keep your CPO lower than $ you are doing great in the sugar world!
Last week I had a 19 year old AA Spinner delivered to my door. She was a SW (can you still say that here?) in a rural community 1 hour away. No kissing; Straight fuckin! BBBJ, CFS, Took a doggie pounding as hard I could hit it (And yes I went deep, I went hard and I went HAM. I tried to bruise her mother fucking cervix!) complete with hair pulling and ass slapping. Flipped her over and finished off in missionary. I had a great time! Sugar: $; CPO = $; But it was a outcall man! Source: SA.
Yes, I know it is not for everyone. But it is possible. 50% of all AA Spinners on the Sugar sites are PRO's and will quote you hh & hr rates right on the site. Plus a lot of white girls and Latinas. I have not run across many Asian pros. They are usually doing the real Sugar Daddy thing and are in high demand. The PRO's often have in call. SD4m is the best site for short term one time arrangements. I am not suggesting you or anybody join. But the is a WIDE range of options out there. It is a brave new world for buying pussy online.
[QUOTE=MasterJedi;1738431]I splurge when I win stack of black chips at the casino, but I'm a bargain hunter without the casino's support. I just posted my report on 'streetwalker reports'. I spent. 3 for CBJ and. 6 for FS. My CPO is. 45 for tonight, so please tell me if anyone can direct me to sb / sd site for the bargain hunters.[/QUOTE]With the site they go on why pay 40. 00 a month when you can mine CL for (FREE) right Master? I bet he didn't compute that into his CPO?
Douchebaggery? Love it! :D
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I've followed this discussion for some time now and need to contribute. Past few trips I've met a couple of sb. IMHO, the best advantage is time. If you work it right a sb will stay the entire night and won't say no to 3rds. 4ths, etc. Plus, you know what you're getting. Everything is arranged before hand so there are no surprises. Looks or otherwise. Importantly though, even when I have a sb lined up, I still hunt cg's. If the sb isn't coming over til midnight, you have a good 2 hrs to see what you can find. Most cg's are in and out in a half hr anyway. Or arrange an afternoon meeting with the sb and enjoy your nighttime hunt. Its all what your budget can afford.
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[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy;1738523]Douchebaggery? Love it! :D[/QUOTE]Try using that in a game of scrabble.
Mr. Joesun1,
Sugar Daddy's who care about the numbers actually do calculate the cost of joining a sugar site into their overall CPO calculations.
For example: A sugar site costs on average 50 / month. I see a minimum of 1 sugar baby a week. I bust twice during each visit. Over 4 weeks that is 8 busts. 50/8 = 6. 25. So, at a minimum I have to add 6. 25 per bust to my average CPO calculations. Now that is a minimum. Of course if I bust more I can amortize the monthly cost of my sugar site membership over the total average number of busts per month. So, my man that number (6. 25 per bust) can only go down. For me that constitutes a negligible additional expense on a per bust basis. Your budget may dictate otherwise.
Now I keep a team of sugar baby's consisting of: 1 to 3 All Time Favorites (ATF's) ; 1 to 3 Booty Calls (BC's) ; and any number of Random Fucks (RF's). So, yes joining a sugar site does require an initial capital outlay. And this capital outlay represents a opportunity to bust with a SW or BP girl. I choose to skip that one time opportunity and amortize the cost of my sugar site membership over the total number of splooge deposits I get to make inside of the orifice of my choice with my sugar babies. As I have explained this cost really doesn't make much of a difference to me.
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That's great math. $6. 25 per pop sounds like a plan.