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[QUOTE=ILikeBlowjobs2;5284637]My brother is a pretty level headed guy. He told me his wife, again a high functioning responsible adult, turned absolutely batshit insane on the pill. It fucked her hormones up so bad that it was a nightmare. Everybody is different.[/QUOTE]Haha, yah I've had friends who gf's or wives went on the pill. Became moody as fu*K, no energy, and bat shit crazy!
That's why many chicks don't take the pil they opt for the iud, shot or implant in arm.
[QUOTE=Jaster191;5282333]Thanks for the input guys! Good information.
We've actually already done it once and I did give her $800. Was surprised when she wanted $800 for the next time and she won't come down no matter what I say. Figured it wouldn't be such a big deal since we did it once already.
The first time we did it I almost came inside and she started panicking. "Did you come in me?" It was almost one of those creampie surprise scenes from porn.[/QUOTE]Why would she go down on price when you already gave her $800 the first time.
[QUOTE=Esidia;5284309]I think you're looking at a different ad? The girl I'm referring to has a chest tattoo of two guns. Here's another link to her: [URL]https://callescort.org/773-425-9743[/URL].[/QUOTE]You are correct, this chic is very real and very nasty. I haven't been with her before but I have tried several times and she went dark on me. I sent her 15 one night and she sent me a couple pics and a couple of short videos. She takes it up the ass like a champ and the guy in the vid jizzed deep in her asshole. She quoted me 3 for a H. I definitely tried to talk her down some on price but she wouldn't go lower. She's also a stripper and does FS everything.
[quote=longdstyle;5287089]pretty open menu here.
[url]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/60465153/[/url][/quote]disgusting.
[QUOTE=Draves;5290893]disgusting.[/QUOTE]I 2nd that notion!
Been seeing this girl, just curious on how to bring up the subject of BB with her. She is a 300 a visit girl, but she is amazing. What is the best way.
[QUOTE=Sagka;5292152]Been seeing this girl, just curious on how to bring up the subject of BB with her. She is a 300 a visit girl, but she is amazing. What is the best way.[/QUOTE]You'll get different answers from different people. Some guys here are very upfront about it and will just make an offer or ask what the upcharge is and see what happens. Some guys will do the same thing but make it more of an ultimatum.
Personally, I never bring up the subject unless it is an explicit part of her menu and I knew that going in. Instead I try to get her so turned on that she just lets it happen naturally. Long foreplay helps. Lots of DATY. It isn't a guarantee, but it seems to work for me more often than not.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;5292280]You'll get different answers from different people. Some guys here are very upfront about it and will just make an offer or ask what the upcharge is and see what happens. Some guys will do the same thing but make it more of an ultimatum.
Personally, I never bring up the subject unless it is an explicit part of her menu and I knew that going in. Instead I try to get her so turned on that she just lets it happen naturally. Long foreplay helps. Lots of DATY. It isn't a guarantee, but it seems to work for me more often than not.[/QUOTE]That's how it has always worked for me, treat her like a hot woman who turns you on. Lots of kissing, caressing and exploring her body. Most girls who enjoy my DATY, and I take my time at it, let me in. Before you know it your little head is rubbing her wet lips. She'll let you know if you can keep going. I've had girls give me BBFS who said they rarely do that but the moment felt right. Treat her like a girl!
Discussion and negotiation ahead of time is a serious buzz kill!
[QUOTE=Jinurso;5292280]You'll get different answers from different people. Some guys here are very upfront about it and will just make an offer or ask what the upcharge is and see what happens. Some guys will do the same thing but make it more of an ultimatum.
Personally, I never bring up the subject unless it is an explicit part of her menu and I knew that going in. Instead I try to get her so turned on that she just lets it happen naturally. Long foreplay helps. Lots of DATY. It isn't a guarantee, but it seems to work for me more often than not.[/QUOTE]As usual Jinurso has some sage wisdom. I fully agree with his methods, this can work wonders if you have any chemistry with the provider. To be honest I generally only see providers who at least allow BBJ and DATY, if you can eat them out (and are good) you can go bare a lot of the time. I would say 3/4's or more of the girls I've seen who allow BBJ and DATY end up letting me go BBFS, even if they don't normally do it, it can be had surprisingly often. Sometimes if they protest, a tip can help change their mind.
[QUOTE=LuvNooke2;5292432]That's how it has always worked for me, treat her like a hot woman who turns you on. Lots of kissing, caressing and exploring her body. Most girls who enjoy my DATY, and I take my time at it, let me in. Before you know it your little head is rubbing her wet lips. She'll let you know if you can keep going. I've had girls give me BBFS who said they rarely do that but the moment felt right. Treat her like a girl!
Discussion and negotiation ahead of time is a serious buzz kill![/QUOTE]Can you or Jinurso recall this strategy working on girls that advertise that bb, BBFS, or BBBJ isn't available? Or are you targeting the ones that list themselves as "open minded"?
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5292627]Can you or Jinurso recall this strategy working on girls that advertise that bb, BBFS, or BBBJ isn't available? Or are you targeting the ones that list themselves as "open minded"?[/QUOTE]The last couple of years I can divide the women I've seen into four categories:
1. Women on this thread, who I know do bb. I don't count them because they know they do it. That's pretty much the only time I use LC or STG.
2. Sugar babies. They don't mention sex in their ads so I don't target them on anything but their pictures and whether they are crazy.
3. Multi-girl incalls. They don't even advertise sex so I'm completely on my own as to whether they'll even fuck much less do bb.
4. Higher end girls on places like p411. They also rarely explicitly advertise sex so I don't know what will happen until I get there. Sometimes they have reviews on the other site but the other side frowns on mentioning BBFS so you rarely see it in reviews even if it happens.
I use that technique all the time on 2,3,4. Works almost every time with 2, maybe half the time with 3, and a little more than half with 4.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;5292680]The last couple of years I can divide the women I've seen into four categories:
2. Sugar babies. They don't mention sex in their ads so I don't target them on anything but their pictures and whether they are crazy.
I use that technique all the time on 2,3,4. Works almost every time with 2, maybe half the time with 3, and a little more than half with 4.[/QUOTE]Agree on your #2. In decades of mongering pre SA, I can count on one hand the number of times BBFS was even suggested. In a few years on and off of SA every single SB I saw more than once offered or even asked for BBFS. But like you replied earlier, this never happened through pre negotiation but organically in the 'heat of the moment'. I'm personally put off by girls who put BBFS on a menu or set a rate. Yes, I know even the 'safe' girls are out there doing it with someone, but the idea that a provider is going bare with any and everyone who can pony up a certain amount is just not a picture I want going into a session.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;5292680]The last couple of years I can divide the women I've seen into four categories:
1. Women on this thread, who I know do bb. I don't count them because they know they do it. That's pretty much the only time I use LC or STG.
2. Sugar babies. They don't mention sex in their ads so I don't target them on anything but their pictures and whether they are crazy.
3. Multi-girl incalls. They don't even advertise sex so I'm completely on my own as to whether they'll even fuck much less do bb.
4. Higher end girls on places like p411. They also rarely explicitly advertise sex so I don't know what will happen until I get there. Sometimes they have reviews on the other site but the other side frowns on mentioning BBFS so you rarely see it in reviews even if it happens.
I use that technique all the time on 2,3,4. Works almost every time with 2, maybe half the time with 3, and a little more than half with 4.[/QUOTE]My experience has been if you treat them like a female who is there for pleasure also (with respect) and go back multiple times BBFS just happens. Especially with number 4 above. My only comment is that I never believe the "I rarely do this" line. If the woman is attractive and still in business at age 30+ that means she has regulars (including me) and we all are getting BBFS. New guys who only see her once or once a year aren't getting it, but the true regulars are.
[QUOTE=Lance18;5292776]My experience has been if you treat them like a female who is there for pleasure also (with respect) and go back multiple times BBFS just happens. Especially with number 4 above. My only comment is that I never believe the "I rarely do this" line. If the woman is attractive and still in business at age 30+ that means she has regulars (including me) and we all are getting BBFS. New guys who only see her once or once a year aren't getting it, but the true regulars are.[/QUOTE]That's another benefit of that approach. If it's organic, there's no upcharge. The only times I've ever paid extra for BB was with the girls who advertise it, who I only find on this thread. Every other girl it just happened with, we might have an "oops" type conversation but never a "you should give me more money" conversation, even when she says she should get a Plan B.