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If you ever doubted that women are attracted to rich and / or powerful men, just take a look at 60 yr. Old General Petraeus and his two hotties. You have to love the title of his mistress's biography on the General,"ALL IN"! That he was!
As my cultural hero Homer Simpson says," There is nothing sexier than a man with a 9-5 job!"
I may have to raise my standards.
Happy Veteran's Day!
Take Care,
Senna
[QUOTE=Senna5194; 1594508]If you ever doubted that women are attracted to rich and / or powerful men, just take a look at 60 yr. Old General Petraeus and his two hotties. You have to love the title of his mistress's biography on the General,"ALL IN"! That he was!
As my cultural hero Homer Simpson says," There is nothing sexier than a man with a 9-5 job!"
I may have to raise my standards.
Happy Veteran's Day!
Take Care,
Senna[/QUOTE]Excellent points Sienna as some poor schlub would never stand a chance in attracting these women. It was my understanding that what led to General Petraeus getting in trouble over his extra curricular activities was the age old problem of jealousy and drama. Paula Broadwell mistress #1 (biographer) became jealous over mistress #2 Jill Kelley and decided to cause allot of drama. Paula turned all "Fatal Attraction" when she found out about Jill and begin to stalk her and send threatening emails including 5-10 in one day. Of course after she kept getting the threatening emails she told her friend in the FBI and then the investigation started that led to them finding out about the affair and all the intimate details in a private G Mail account the 2 where using. I guess there's a lesson in here somewhere about keeping safe and how drama can cause a big headache.
Just for the record Jill Kelley is of Lebanese decent and explains her sexy olive colored skin and Mediterranean features. I wonder if any of our local gals have any Mediterranean ethnicity meaning Greek, Lebanese, Turkish, Italian, Israeli, Egyptian or Spanish.
[QUOTE=KnoxYankee;1594834]I wonder if any of our local gals have any Mediterranean ethnicity meaning Greek, Lebanese, Turkish, Italian, Israeli, Egyptian or Spanish.[/QUOTE]Ahem. Full-blooded Italian here.
[QUOTE=LucyMassage;1595011]Ahem. Full-blooded Italian here.[/QUOTE]She does, Lucy is ok
I hope it's ok to post this:
[url]http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/mar/09/y-12-security-official-charged-in-prostitution/[/url]
[QUOTE=Mickey865; 1700935]I hope it's ok to post this:
[url]http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2013/mar/09/y-12-security-official-charged-in-prostitution/[/url][/QUOTE]This report is important and significant in that LEO is going after the monger. I am not sure this isn't entrapment, but the damage is don to this guys reputation and probably job. I hope an attorney here can answer a question that I have regarding this. The Facilitation charge, how is that treated now in light of the laws passed recently?
Also I for one keep up with the 24 hour list to see who got caught and what her charges were. More than one arrest last year resulted in the girl rolling over and giving up her contacts and agreeing to help LEO for a more lenient out come. So be careful guys, we all know that some of these TGTBT adds could be LEO, but now even an old friend in the business may be posing and advertising to help LEO get some of us.
TO argue in court that this is a victimless crime between consenting adults will be too late. And most of us can't go on record endorsing legalized prostitution, so unless someone gets lucky and appeals a conviction to a higher court on a constitutional issue and wins, we must be careful, skeptical and diligent to follow the rules.
BE safe!
OD
I can't think of any constitutional issues to appeal something like this on. Like I said elsewhere I'm pretty sure I was getting texts from someone other than the girl who showed up on the list the other day; I just happened to know enough about her to stay away.
I haven't really looked at the facilitation charge. But I will, and try to write something later. As for entrapment, unfortunately the theory is, and has always been, that government action is not entrapment if you had the intent / desire to break the law anyway. In a monger's case, if you all a number on BP and it's uncle LEO, you have the intent to violate the law. If you show up, lay money down, it's not entrapment. In my case, where the ext came from the girl. Assuming it was LEO using her phone. I have a stronger argument net induced me to break the law but it's not necessarily a winner. Plenty of decisions out there saying just because uncle furnishes you the tools to break the law is not entrapment. You would've done it anyway. Like OD said, not an argument any of us want to make publicly if we get popped.
I would be very curious who this guy was trying to contact.
[QUOTE=Rrguy; 1701368]I can't think of any constitutional issues to appeal something like this on. Like I said elsewhere I'm pretty sure I was getting texts from someone other than the girl who showed up on the list the other day; I just happened to know enough about her to stay away.
I haven't really looked at the facilitation charge. But I will, and try to write something later. As for entrapment, unfortunately the theory is, and has always been, that government action is not entrapment if you had the intent / desire to break the law anyway. In a monger's case, if you all a number on BP and it's uncle LEO, you have the intent to violate the law. If you show up, lay money down, it's not entrapment. In my case, where the ext came from the girl. Assuming it was LEO using her phone. I have a stronger argument net induced me to break the law but it's not necessarily a winner. Plenty of decisions out there saying just because uncle furnishes you the tools to break the law is not entrapment. You would've done it anyway. Like OD said, not an argument any of us want to make publicly if we get popped.
I would be very curious who this guy was trying to contact.[/QUOTE]I can tell you form first hand experience the entrapment argument will not get you anywhere in court. My case involved bid rigging charges on goverment contracts and the short of it was I signed and submitted the bids and knowlingly broke the law. It did not matter that I received an email from another guy asking me to help him pad his bid by entering a shill for him. He had been caught giving kickbacks to goverment purchasing agents and in turn agreed to help the AG get other contractors. I was sent an email asking me to help him and we were not even on the intrested contractors list for the project but all the contractors helped each other out so I bid the ammount he asked me to. Some of you may remember when this happend, it was right after that when several of the top turn key EPC or desgin build contractors changed thier name or were bought by others on paper anyway. In the end, it was just about like the escorts all the usual suspects were just moved around by name on paper and buisness kept right on going.
Well this guy's life is over. Would love to know what ad he called. Amazing to me the lengths LEO and society will go to punish someone. Guess I need to improve my defense or stay off BP or both. Thanks to everyone for helping navigate this bible belt minefield.
Stay safe out there,
DL
[QUOTE=Dlemon; 1701923]Well this guy's life is over. Would love to know what ad he called. Amazing to me the lengths LEO and society will go to punish someone. Guess I need to improve my defense or stay off BP or both. Thanks to everyone for helping navigate this bible belt minefield.
Stay safe out there,
DL[/QUOTE]Among other things, it's a reminder to never discuss details on the phone and especially not with an unknown provider.
It's also why that while I mostly stick to the street action, I always cruise around a bit and try to get a feel for what's going on before I pick anybody up.
I doubt that Leo is going to put a female undercover out on the street without having some backup close by and so that's one of the reasons I always make a few passes before making a pick up.
I've missed some opportunities as a result but so far I've also managed to miss being robbed and I've managed to miss being fitted for my own set of nickle plated bracelets.
As for this poor schmuck, at a minimum he's going to loose his job.
My step-dad is retired now but he was a security guard at one of the nuclear plants in Oak Ridge and I can pretty much guarantee this guy can kiss his security clearance goodbye and thus his job along with it.
I'd like to add to this conversation that I just got a weird text from a known provider. One that I saw last summer. Completely out of the blue.
[QUOTE=West Knox;1702752]I'd like to add to this conversation that I just got a weird text from a known provider. One that I saw last summer. Completely out of the blue.[/QUOTE]If anyone has any more INFO on this undercover sting, please send me a PM, if you can't post about it. I don't want to be the next, 'poor schmuck' to step on his own crank.
[QUOTE=Anksgf; 1702732]Among other things, it's a reminder to never discuss details on the phone and especially not with an unknown provider.
It's also why that while I mostly stick to the street action, I always cruise around a bit and try to get a feel for what's going on before I pick anybody up.
I doubt that Leo is going to put a female undercover out on the street without having some backup close by and so that's one of the reasons I always make a few passes before making a pick up.
I've missed some opportunities as a result but so far I've also managed to miss being robbed and I've managed to miss being fitted for my own set of nickle plated bracelets.
As for this poor schmuck, at a minimum he's going to loose his job.
My step-dad is retired now but he was a security guard at one of the nuclear plants in Oak Ridge and I can pretty much guarantee this guy can kiss his security clearance goodbye and thus his job along with it.[/QUOTE]Don't know if its the paper or who exactly but catch one of the lab biggies. Going to be front page and 6 and 11l pm TV.
I think its because they like them to quit other than directly fire them. Humiliate, trash them, take their security clearance and they take off instead. Fibees took a dude out in hand cuffs once right through the library so every one would see. Released him outside the gates.
They caught the director of security with a SW in Kentucky. Dummy tried to bribe the officer and made things worse. Was big joke at there that travels funds weren't high enough even to bribe a backwoods county mounty
So the making a big deal of it is regular behavior.
Make no mistake about it. There has been an ongoing undercover sting, that the Knox County Sheriff's Department has been conducting for several months, specifically targeting mongers. I believe the KPD is also involved. But a good friend of mine actually called me to warn me, back in January shortly after he had spoken with a relatively high ranking officer w / the KCSD. The officer / detective told him that they were specifically targeting guys who call back page girls. This was in January. At a minimum, any intelligent monger should avoid any ads that feature co-eds who appear TGTBT.
I would think the tried and true would be relatively safe.
[QUOTE=Nickn3;1702764]If anyone has any more INFO on this undercover sting, please send me a PM, if you can't post about it. I don't want to be the next, 'poor schmuck' to step on his own crank.[/QUOTE]