[QUOTE=Pmil 202;1687573]I've been there a few times too and did get a massage from both ladies the young one does not seem to be into any kind of playing even though she seemed like she was teasing with a soft touch massage with limited towel use, however the older one did get very close to things with limited towel use and did encourage me to do a self serv finish both give a very nice massage and I don't think they will go any further than a self serv thing, they also have a AMP in them that was is same deal a couple of older late 30ish asian ladies that give a good massage with limited towel coverage and both let me do a self serv thing but the one lady did let me do a bit of roaming while she helped somewhat, maybe if a guy becomes a reg things might go further but it is a place to get a very good massage.[/QUOTE]I relented and went back. Actually there are 4 different women working there, two 25-35, one 45+, and one 55+. I have used 3 of them. One lady was not playful (only used her once) but two of the three became playful after the usual warm-up period ( 20 minutes). Lots of suggestive rubbing and talk (which surprised me). To further break the ice one lady indicated it was "visually" obvious I needed a girl friend. The towel is only used the first 20 minutes plus they let me relax as they do "all" the work. No need for DIY. Full 60 minutes each time. It's a little cleaner than a month ago, they now have music, and they quieted the other girls when customers are present. Not perfect but ok.