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Richard
For the first time in a while I hit up an escort last night. Vanilla.
She's part of the "passing through" crowd that posts on CL because we in Tucson, like dumbasses, pay far too much. Just like with what happened to the housing market, I am waiting for the market to smarten up and waiting for this over-inflated bubble to pop before I started doing this again. But, she stated in her ad that she's 6'4". I am 6'4" myself. I've never been with any women, pro or otherwise, who was taller than 5'9". It was an opportunity I just couldn't pass up. So, I apologize for doing damage to the market. I paid two hundred dollars. Sorry about that.
So, anyway, I call her. She says two hundred fifty for the hour. She can prolly hear that she was losing me, so she said that a special, two hundred dollars for an hour. I headed that way, the La Quinta Inn over at 22 and I-10.
I get there, and she's wearing 3 inch heels, so she's actually taller than me. It is so rare I ever see anyone taller than me, let alone a woman. I liked it. She had a small waist flaring into a sexy set of hips. I liked that, too. She then asks me to life up my shirt and she pats me down. Weird, never had that before, but whatever. So, she asks me for the money, and in quite angering all-too-common fashion, its only then that she says the stuff that she should have said before taking my money. She says she doesn't do greek (ok, I'm fine with that), she always uses condoms (OK, I'm fine with that, too), and she doesn't get on top. Huh? Doesn't get on top? Even with her height, if she told me that initially it would have been a deal-breaker. What's the point of having sex with a girl of my same height if I can't experience that? So, whatever. She puts the condom on me right away, doing a half-assed job getting me hard. Right away she leans back, but I ask for oral, she obliges, but only for a few seconds and not that good. I asked her if I could do oral on her, but she said that's extra. Huh? Yeah, I like going down, but they get much more out of that than I do, so I refuse to pay for that. So, we did missionary. She told me that I can only have one pop. Huh? I thought I paid for an hour. So, I held back a while. I popped eventually. She let me recover for a couple of minutes, then she kind of rushed me out of there. It was a polite rushing, but a rushing none the less. Despite the fact that I understood I was getting an hour, I don't think I was there more than 20 minutes.
So, I was horribly disappointed. I really miss that two hundred dollars. I never miss money unless I feel like I didn't get my money's worth for what I spent it on, and that's definitely the case here.
Irrelevant side tirade: Vanilla reminded me of why I haven't done this for so long. Obviously I have no problems, moral or otherwise, with trading money for sex. That said, I am so sick of this business. Our street scene has all but been eliminated the last ten years. Prices have gone off the scale. The appearances (speaking in a general sense) have become much less attractive. The service has become worse and worse. Honesty from providers to hobbyists isn't valued by either side anymore. We have so much "screening" going on.
I remember a time, not all that long ago, where we could cruise Oracle or MM or 6th and fine a fair quality girl who would show us an astronomical time for forty dollars. I remember when I could find an ad on CL that was more than a few minutes old because people weren't so flag happy. I remember when I answered one of those ads I could spend an hour with a beautiful woman who respected my privacy who made me feel attractive and let me pop as many times as I could in an hour. I remember when that wonderful experience could be had for one hundred fifty dollars or less.
What the fuck happened here?!?!?
[QUOTE=Pugilist]I remember a time, not all that long ago, where we could cruise Oracle or MM or 6th and fine a fair quality girl who would show us an astronomical time for forty dollars. I remember when I could find an ad on CL that was more than a few minutes old because people weren't so flag happy. I remember when I answered one of those ads I could spend an hour with a beautiful woman who respected my privacy who made me feel attractive and let me pop as many times as I could in an hour. I remember when that wonderful experience could be had for one hundred fifty dollars or less.
What the fuck happened here?!?!?[/QUOTE]Have been paying attention as I drive around the last month just trying to find someone who offers some fun for a reasonable amount of appreciation and who doesn't look like someone off the "Faces of Meth" poster.
It's slim pickens to the point where I was approached by a good looking (SW Standards) woman on Drachman and decided she must be LE. As it was, I drove around and saw her picked up by someone else who drove off up Oracle and away.
There were a few honeys I patronized on CL, only one is left and she's massage only. A happy, happy massage but that's it. The best looking woman on there now is a TS! I just can't make the leap.
Pug-
I'm from Vegas but visit Phoenix about 2 or 3 times a month over the weekends. I do the street scene stuff mostly but have tried CL both here and Vegas for the last 6 months. Your right, most of the time I get pissed off with the quality, or lack thereof, with most of the providers. They are in a rush, quality is non-existent for the most part, and one pop, not one hour is the norm. For the SW, the most you will get is normally a half hour for your money, but CL gals advertise one hour. I try to make sure they understand that one hour is just that, one hour and not just one pop, but to no avail with the exception of two over the last 6 months. As you state in your tirade, I too am so sick of the cash and dash and general lack of quality. Unfortunately, it is so typical of our society today to try and make the most money with the least amount of service. These gals don't seem to understand that repeat customers give them the most money and best overall safety, or more likely, they just don't care. To say the least its frustrating, but all of them have a sad tale of the times they have been ripped off by some clod who stole back their money or who promised to pay them afterward and didn't. You would think that they would appreciate being treated decently and would appreciate a returning customer. But au contrere. I have only one after all these years who lets me pay afterwards. It is indeed a sad state of affairs. Here in Vegas the Asian ads are rampant and the flagging is off the charts. If they only realize that there is enough for all to go around. So I don't partake of Asians here because they rip everyone else off by flagging. Unfortunately, it is typical of our society nowadays, ask the most and give the least.
10safe
[QUOTE=Pugilist]For the first time in a while I hit up an escort last night. Vanilla.
She's part of the "passing through" crowd that posts on CL because we in Tucson, like dumbasses, pay far too much. Just like with what happened to the housing market, I am waiting for the market to smarten up and waiting for this over-inflated bubble to pop before I started doing this again. But, she stated in her ad that she's 6'4". I am 6'4" myself. I've never been with any women, pro or otherwise, who was taller than 5'9". It was an opportunity I just couldn't pass up. So, I apologize for doing damage to the market. I paid two hundred dollars. Sorry about that.
So, anyway, I call her. She says two hundred fifty for the hour. She can prolly hear that she was losing me, so she said that a special, two hundred dollars for an hour. I headed that way, the La Quinta Inn over at 22 and I-10.
I get there, and she's wearing 3 inch heels, so she's actually taller than me. It is so rare I ever see anyone taller than me, let alone a woman. I liked it. She had a small waist flaring into a sexy set of hips. I liked that, too. She then asks me to life up my shirt and she pats me down. Weird, never had that before, but whatever. So, she asks me for the money, and in quite angering all-too-common fashion, its only then that she says the stuff that she should have said before taking my money. She says she doesn't do greek (ok, I'm fine with that), she always uses condoms (OK, I'm fine with that, too), and she doesn't get on top. Huh? Doesn't get on top? Even with her height, if she told me that initially it would have been a deal-breaker. What's the point of having sex with a girl of my same height if I can't experience that? So, whatever. She puts the condom on me right away, doing a half-assed job getting me hard. Right away she leans back, but I ask for oral, she obliges, but only for a few seconds and not that good. I asked her if I could do oral on her, but she said that's extra. Huh? Yeah, I like going down, but they get much more out of that than I do, so I refuse to pay for that. So, we did missionary. She told me that I can only have one pop. Huh? I thought I paid for an hour. So, I held back a while. I popped eventually. She let me recover for a couple of minutes, then she kind of rushed me out of there. It was a polite rushing, but a rushing none the less. Despite the fact that I understood I was getting an hour, I don't think I was there more than 20 minutes.
So, I was horribly disappointed. I really miss that two hundred dollars. I never miss money unless I feel like I didn't get my money's worth for what I spent it on, and that's definitely the case here.
Irrelevant side tirade: Vanilla reminded me of why I haven't done this for so long. Obviously I have no problems, moral or otherwise, with trading money for sex. That said, I am so sick of this business. Our street scene has all but been eliminated the last ten years. Prices have gone off the scale. The appearances (speaking in a general sense) have become much less attractive. The service has become worse and worse. Honesty from providers to hobbyists isn't valued by either side anymore. We have so much "screening" going on.
I remember a time, not all that long ago, where we could cruise Oracle or MM or 6th and fine a fair quality girl who would show us an astronomical time for forty dollars. I remember when I could find an ad on CL that was more than a few minutes old because people weren't so flag happy. I remember when I answered one of those ads I could spend an hour with a beautiful woman who respected my privacy who made me feel attractive and let me pop as many times as I could in an hour. I remember when that wonderful experience could be had for one hundred fifty dollars or less.
What the fuck happened here?!?!?[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more, I just had an avreage provider stop by the house. The deal was for 2 bills. After she left the phone rang and her "Boss", another provider wanted 200 more because she stayed over time by half an hour.
Mongering in Tucson is "Bull Shit", expensive, no service, no selection, and ugly providers.
Exon
There are several good female tantric massage providers in Tucson. The ones I've seen have real massage training in addition to their excellent tantric skills.
A typical session starts out face down on the table. Then oil is used, along with firm, long strikes, on your back, buttocks, and legs (and sometimes your feet).
After the flip, the massage concentrates on your cock, balls, and perineum, with a number of specialised strokes. During this time, you can get hard, go soft, get hard again, etc. a number of times. This is much more than your sweetest, long, slow HJ.
Then, as you lie there in bliss, thinking it could get no better, your masseuse dons a latex or vinyl glove, applies a water-based lube, climbs up on the table between your legs, and inserts a finger in your ass, putting gentle pressure on your prostate. At the same time, she continues to massage your genitals with her other hand. An occasional wiggle of her finger will enhance the ecstasy for the experienced connoisseur.
If you practice calm, deep breathing, you can take a lot of pleasure before you pop. Tantric ladies will back off if you're about to cum too soon, and even offer sessions specifically to correct premature ejaculation.
Warning: Do not operate heavy equipment after this session!
A typical 60-minute session will run you $$, but you might want to consider a 90-minute session. Usually not FS. Verification may be required.
Note: Lots of escorts offer "prostate massage," which is one of men's most-asked-for items, but once you've had a FBSM from a tantric practitioner, I'll bet you won't look back.
[QUOTE=Daka1]There are several good female tantric massage providers in Tucson. The ones I've seen have real massage training in addition to their excellent tantric skills.
A typical session starts out face down on the table. Then oil is used, along with firm, long strikes, on your back, buttocks, and legs (and sometimes your feet).
After the flip, the massage concentrates on your cock, balls, and perineum, with a number of specialised strokes. During this time, you can get hard, go soft, get hard again, etc. a number of times. This is much more than your sweetest, long, slow HJ.
Then, as you lie there in bliss, thinking it could get no better, your masseuse dons a latex or vinyl glove, applies a water-based lube, climbs up on the table between your legs, and inserts a finger in your ass, putting gentle pressure on your prostate. At the same time, she continues to massage your genitals with her other hand. An occasional wiggle of her finger will enhance the ecstasy for the experienced connoisseur.
If you practice calm, deep breathing, you can take a lot of pleasure before you pop. Tantric ladies will back off if you're about to cum too soon, and even offer sessions specifically to correct premature ejaculation.
Warning: Do not operate heavy equipment after this session!
A typical 60-minute session will run you $$, but you might want to consider a 90-minute session. Usually not FS. Verification may be required.
Note: Lots of escorts offer "prostate massage," which is one of men's most-asked-for items, but once you've had a FBSM from a tantric practitioner, I'll bet you won't look back.[/QUOTE]
That sounds too fantastic. Could anyone who knows a provider doing this please PM me with details. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=jwny72]That sounds too fantastic. Could anyone who knows a provider doing this please PM me with details. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I would love to have the contact info as well. please pm meif you have a girl or place in mind. I am also interested in petite latinas and asians. if anyone has experiences with those ladies near Tucson, please let me know.
Thanks guys.
Mazzy, She is on Tucsons backpage, Massage, two pops, all coverd, No: DFK, DATY, barely let me tuch her.
But besides all that a good time and a nice lady, 7 her pics were of a fue years ago. I realy injoyed her after the new be jitters went away, She is south of the University near 6th.
[QUOTE=jwny72]That sounds too fantastic. Could anyone who knows a provider doing this please PM me with details. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hello all,
First time poster, long time hobbyist. Recently stumbled on the forums and thrilled to find such valuable insights. I've been figuring this stuff out on my own forever now.
Looks to me like CL is and will remain dead until the mad-flagger dies. BP & EG are still useful tho.
NE is a phenomenal provider and terrific at tantra, plus the added benefit of the beautiful tats she wears.
Looking forward to establishing some cred and learning more! Thanks! TT
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I'm glad this issue was brought up. It demonstrates that what I've been saying for years in these circles is absolutely correct. The gov participated in "screening", and look where he ended up.
NEVER submit to an idiotic screening practice.
ALWAYS pay cash (or trade something that can't be easily traced back to you)
NEVER show your ID or tell her where you work!!!
I cant emphasize these things enough people!!! Never, ever, ever share with her any info she wouldn't be willing to share with you. It's just not worth it!!!
Apparently there are folks who haven't understood my message. I urge you all...PLEASE stop with the screening processes. Is the escort so hot you're willing to risk your job, marriage, whatever? I think not. I know the providers who promote this idiocy say they're upscale. Well...so too was that chick the gov hired. Food for thought.
So, everyone reading this...PLEASE stop being "screened"!!! If none of us were doing it, then these providers would do one of two things...
-they would get out of the business, to which I say good riddance
-they would realize that if they want to stay in business and keep making money then they would have to start respecting our privacy
[QUOTE=Pugilist]The gov participated in "screening", and look where he ended up. NEVER submit to an idiotic screening practice. ALWAYS pay cash. NEVER show your ID or tell her where you work!!![/QUOTE]Look, if you're the governor of New York State, or a similar high-profile individual, all bets are off, but there's a difference between being cautious and being paranoid.
Granted, cash only is a good rule.
I am a fairly private person who values discretion, but I believe most men are not at great risk sharing a bit of personal information with an [b]established, reputable[/b] provider. Not some advertiser you've never heard of before who shows up on CL a couple of times -- I'd be loathe to even meet with some unknown, regardless of screening.
If you decline to engage in screening, you can see a provider who doesn't require it. Then you can use her as a reference for another provider. I think most providers who screen prefer this form of screening, anyway.
BTW, if truth be told, talking to a provider on the phone is itself a form of screening. How you present yourself will either put her at ease or raise red flags. That will make the rest of the process of getting an appointment easier or harder, respectively.
Anyone have any reports on all the new talent on cl & bp? Sure seems like a lot of newbies suddenly "found" Tucson or LE is on a massive campaign.
I'll stick to the SC's and keep learning from the SM's on here hoping some day I'm able to report such amazing fantasies.