Hobbyist's Must Read!

I think it is time that we, who are called hobbyists, began to understand their role in the “hobby”, we, up to this point, have been unaware (I speak generally), of what our exact role is in the economic endeavor. We are, simply and crudely put, the demand. Our sisters in this economic endeavor (providers), are, also crudely put, the supply.

The job of the supply is to meet the needs of the demand, a basic law of economics and business. As demand it is our job to let the supply know what our likes and desires are. If we don’t do our jobs as demand, supply cannot do its job. Demand is the driver of this economic system!

We complain incessantly about women who “let us down”, don’t do GFE, rush us, bad attitude etc. There are suppliers out there who are not meeting the expectations of demand but are finding adequate supply to stay in business. This has to stop! This can stop in Boston because of the vehicle of this letter, the information superhighway, the internet! We, the demand, know who these providers are, we are guilty of supporting them. Grant it, a provider, who is new can “shill” a few of us who are willing to “take one for the team” but those providers should not be allowed to stay in business! We are driving the bus fellow hobbyists! We are the demand and need to be sharing information, anonymously of course. If you are not sharing market information freely, you are causing the market to favor supply in not meeting the needs of demand! You are the reason that you had that bad experience and got screwed! Everyone who is reading this has answered a GFE ad from someone who, when they met them, acted like they had the plague.

I am not looking to be the savior of this hobby but I realized today that we are our own worst enemy. We try to keep the gems to ourselves but keep looking for the diamonds in the rough, the women that write a great ad but don’t live up to it.

I visited a place today that advertises in the Phoenix, and has for a long time. One of the Quincy places (number ends in 5693). The women was beautiful but rushed me big time and had a guy waiting at the back while I was escorted out the front. That is not the kind of service that I demand!

Step up hobbyists, be proud to be demand, but only if you live up to the responsibility of being demand! The beautiful ladies that meet our expectations will flourish. The ones that don’t will wither.

Let’s band on this. Let me know if I’m right, or full of shit. Providers, would you like clearer direction?

I am going to post this on several boards. If I missed one and you would like it posted to yours, e-mail me.

T

Me thinks you are FOS...lol.

I prefer Darwinism. The hardworking and the strong get the spoils, while the weak & lazy must enjoy scraps until they learn, be a bit more diligent and get strong enough to get their own spoils.

I find that when I pass info along thats above a monger's ability to maintain, it tends to spoil on the vine with them, or worse...they fuck up my good thing. So I for one, am very picky on who gets what anymore...though I will freely toss out scraps for all to enjoy on occassion.

Also...in your Sexonomic 101 don't forget:
1. The law of supply demands that if prices increase, the quantity and quality of supply will also increase.

2. The inverse is also true. The less the price, the lower the quality and quantity of suppliers.

You want better, more GFE poon on the market....price has to increase steadily.

Finally think on this and give an honest answer:

How much would you charge to rent your ass to a Gay convention? How much would you charge per trick? Sure, you could let 30 of them ram your ass at $30 each and make $900...or you can let 2 men do it for $200 each and make $400?

Would you rent your anus out $30 a trick to make more money?

Respect the women a bit more for what they do...and you may find you get more GFE than you do now, for less $$. They are still humans with thoughts, emotions, ego and pride...not disposable cargo or packages of meat.

Does the term "you get what you pay for" mean anything to you? If you want to spend your hobbying time banging on the doors of AMPS you will generaly get serviced accordingly: Low price=low service. I've had a few good experiences in amps and even one or two memorable ones but usually its in and out. Women who take us seriously as customers also expect us to take them seriously. I've never had a bad experience with a well reviewed provider in any price range but you have to set you expectations-GFE etc-to what you are paying for the service. Hunting for bargains is the way some guys choose to play the game-that's fine but I prefer quality over quantity. To reiterate what Stoner said. Treat these ladies as people and, as a general rule, you will be rewarded.

I agree completely that amps give less than whole hearted service but if you want a good massage with an attractive girl and only need limited other services doe s anyone have anygood suggestitions? I'm used to other countries where you can get spectacular massage wth beautifull young girl choose your additional menu.

Gents,

In preparation for a visit to your fine city, I came across this old thread and was curious why it died so quickly without a couple of glaring issues being resolved. In my humble opinion:

First, no matter what the demand, supply is often independent of the requirements.

Second, the price of the supply does not always go up with quality or quantity.

I've seen the AMP business in a number of states and a couple of countries. The best "product" I can compare the service to is produce. The price on fruit and vegetables goes way up when the supply is short and / or the quality is poor. But when there is a bumper crop, with large, full-bodied produce, the price drops drastically. All the while, there are the same shoppers in the isles. Demand didn't change. Supply did.

In Asia, one can get a great massage from a competent and beautiful lady and expect top not service at a very affordable price. In NYC, the price increases and the service decreases because there are fewer compentent and beautiful ladies. The expectation is the same and the demand is greater per provider.

I would suggest that we have to keep a check on our requirements. Like the original poster wrote. But when the supply is weak, we either consume smaller amounts of poorer quality fresh produce, or we do without fresh produce.

Supply isn't always directly driven to demand.

AD

It is a very valid point and one to take into consideration. Isn't it true that, as you said as the demand drops because of low quality, the price will have to drop to stimulate more demand? Another option is the substitute. If price is too high and quality is low, a sensual massage might be an option.

Another point is that weather, insects etc effect produce. That may be comparable to strict LE etc.

You're right. The issue died without a whole lot of thoughtful debate. This is, of course, USA Sex Guide!

[QUOTE=Alpha D; 1084326]Gents,

In preparation for a visit to your fine city, I came across this old thread and was curious why it died so quickly without a couple of glaring issues being resolved. In my humble opinion:

First, no matter what the demand, supply is often independent of the requirements.

Second, the price of the supply does not always go up with quality or quantity.

I've seen the AMP business in a number of states and a couple of countries. The best "product" I can compare the service to is produce. The price on fruit and vegetables goes way up when the supply is short and / or the quality is poor. But when there is a bumper crop, with large, full-bodied produce, the price drops drastically. All the while, there are the same shoppers in the isles. Demand didn't change. Supply did.

In Asia, one can get a great massage from a competent and beautiful lady and expect top not service at a very affordable price. In NYC, the price increases and the service decreases because there are fewer compentent and beautiful ladies. The expectation is the same and the demand is greater per provider.

I would suggest that we have to keep a check on our requirements. Like the original poster wrote. But when the supply is weak, we either consume smaller amounts of poorer quality fresh produce, or we do without fresh produce.

Supply isn't always directly driven to demand.

AD[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stoner;371982]Me thinks you are FOS...lol.

I prefer Darwinism. The hardworking and the strong get the spoils, while the weak & lazy must enjoy scraps until they learn, be a bit more diligent and get strong enough to get their own spoils.

I find that when I pass info along thats above a monger's ability to maintain, it tends to spoil on the vine with them, or worse...they fuck up my good thing. So I for one, am very picky on who gets what anymore...though I will freely toss out scraps for all to enjoy on occassion.

Also...in your Sexonomic 101 don't forget:
1. The law of supply demands that if prices increase, the quantity and quality of supply will also increase.

2. The inverse is also true. The less the price, the lower the quality and quantity of suppliers.

You want better, more GFE poon on the market....price has to increase steadily.

Finally think on this and give an honest answer:

How much would you charge to rent your ass to a Gay convention? How much would you charge per trick? Sure, you could let 30 of them ram your ass at $30 each and make $900...or you can let 2 men do it for $200 each and make $400?

Would you rent your anus out $30 a trick to make more money?

Respect the women a bit more for what they do...and you may find you get more GFE than you do now, for less $$. They are still humans with thoughts, emotions, ego and pride...not disposable cargo or packages of meat.[/QUOTE]In my humble opinion, this is one of the best posts on this board ever. Too bad, Stoner is not around anymore.

[QUOTE=CheezeFist;3686963]In my humble opinion, this is one of the best posts on this board ever. Too bad, Stoner is not around anymore.[/QUOTE]Stoner is correct.

[QUOTE=Stoner;371982]Respect the women a bit more for what they do...and you may find you get more GFE than you do now, for less $$. They are still humans with thoughts, emotions, ego and pride...not disposable cargo or packages of meat.[/QUOTE]I agree and found this to be true but one of the problems is that after we see the same provider 10+ times, they often move from that GFE experience to more of a WE (wife experience) where they start trying to finish you off quicker and your hour starts to turn into 45 minutes as they become comfortable that you will continue to return. I guess it is just human nature.

[QUOTE=Indyguy69;3696033]I agree and found this to be true but one of the problems is that after we see the same provider 10+ times, they often move from that GFE experience to more of a WE (wife experience) where they start trying to finish you off quicker and your hour starts to turn into 45 minutes as they become comfortable that you will continue to return. I guess it is just human nature.[/QUOTE]There is grain of truth in what you say but it usually also often positively affects your bottom line and sometimes they spent extra time with those they're more used to to as well.

They kind of get comfortable with the idea that you understand that she needs to prepare for her next appointment if time is tight and so on. Also just like with any other relationships you begin to go through your ups and downs too. But it does get more difficult in some sense to create a more erotic atmosphere with a chick that you've been seeing for years. After a while she is not only your sexual object, she's also in your "friends zone" and you also often begin to wonder how similar she is in how you're seeing her during appointments in her "other life". You sure gain some from that but you lose some of the other "thing" too. There is no free lunch.

But at least you know that when they see you, they're genuinely happy to see you and not only "working". They appreciate when we see them regularly not only from purely financial perspective and trust me that's not an illusion.

[QUOTE=Stoner;371982]Me thinks you are FOS...lol.

I prefer Darwinism. The hardworking and the strong get the spoils, while the weak & lazy must enjoy scraps until they learn, be a bit more diligent and get strong enough to get their own spoils.

I find that when I pass info along thats above a monger's ability to maintain, it tends to spoil on the vine with them, or worse...they fuck up my good thing. So I for one, am very picky on who gets what anymore...though I will freely toss out scraps for all to enjoy on occassion.

Also...in your Sexonomic 101 don't forget:
1. The law of supply demands that if prices increase, the quantity and quality of supply will also increase.

2. The inverse is also true. The less the price, the lower the quality and quantity of suppliers.

You want better, more GFE poon on the market....price has to increase steadily.

Finally think on this and give an honest answer:

How much would you charge to rent your ass to a Gay convention? How much would you charge per trick? Sure, you could let 30 of them ram your ass at $30 each and make $900...or you can let 2 men do it for $200 each and make $400?

Would you rent your anus out $30 a trick to make more money?

Respect the women a bit more for what they do...and you may find you get more GFE than you do now, for less $$. They are still humans with thoughts, emotions, ego and pride...not disposable cargo or packages of meat.[/QUOTE]One of the best posts.